View Full Version : Female 'firefighter' can't break down door
madfranks
29th January 2019, 08:58 AM
If you and your family burn to a crisp while little miss firefighter can't get through your door, you can still die with a smile on your face because you stood up to the patriarchy and let women be equals!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb_WYGtZ7K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb_WYGtZ7K4
cheka.
29th January 2019, 01:52 PM
not only phyz tests - i just read an article from same region about the written test results too. white males must score higher to 'pass' than their women and vibrant competitors
affirmative action gets people killed -- cops, fire, doctors, nurses, etc. will merit ever return?
osoab
29th January 2019, 02:15 PM
not only phyz tests - i just read an article from same region about the written test results too. white males must score higher to 'pass' than their women and vibrant competitors
affirmative action gets people killed -- cops, fire, doctors, nurses, etc. will merit ever return?
In Shitcago, the merit pics are the incompetent, the suck asses, the exam cheaters, the spouses of the top brass.
cheka.
29th January 2019, 02:18 PM
In Shitcago, the merit pics are the incompetent, the suck asses, the exam cheaters, the spouses of the top brass.
sounds like the opposite of merit
osoab
29th January 2019, 02:58 PM
sounds like the opposite of merit
It's Shitcago.
Cebu_4_2
29th January 2019, 03:04 PM
It looked like she wasn't even trying. Staged event?
madfranks
29th January 2019, 03:44 PM
It looked like she wasn't even trying. Staged event?I'm sure she'll try harder when she's trying to get into your locked door to save you when your house is burning. :D
osoab
29th January 2019, 03:53 PM
I'm sure she'll try harder when she's trying to get into your locked door to save you when your house is burning. :D
If any of our houses burn, they will evacuate the neighborhood and listen to the pops a long ways away.
osoab
29th January 2019, 04:19 PM
So I just watched the video.
I don't understand the "exercise". Why run full speed into a "door"? In a real situation no one would. They are not in full gear. No axes in hand. Are doors in the UK weighted? Why not smash the door lock with the axe and swing the door?
Then you add in the Hollywood movie clip.
The whole video was a bunch of BS.
I did like this article.
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6585341/Woman-failed-infant-test-given-pass-Army-furious-male-soldiers-staged-rebellion.html)Woman who failed frontline infantry fitness test was given a 'pass' by the Army until furious male soldiers who HAD completed course staged rebellion (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6585341/Woman-failed-infant-test-given-pass-Army-furious-male-soldiers-staged-rebellion.html)
A female soldier was allowed to continue on an Army selection course even though she failed a vital fitness test – triggering a rebellion among male troops who had passed.
Corporal Daisy Dougherty was hoping to become one of the Army’s first female infantry instructors following the landmark decision last year to let women join combat units and Special Forces.
The first stage in the selection process required her to prove her fitness by completing an eight-mile march in under two hours over arduous terrain while carrying a heavy pack and a rifle.
Despite being a qualified personal fitness trainer and a member of the Army’s athletics squad, the 29-year-old took too long to finish the challenge. Under course rules, she should have been immediately ejected and sent back to her unit.
But Cpl Dougherty – the only woman on the course – and 14 others who also failed were told they could carry on, sparking a furious backlash among the 75 soldiers who passed the test.
The soldiers rounded on commanders at the Infantry Battle School in Brecon, Mid-Wales, accusing them of lowering standards to suit women. When top brass refused to back down, troops contacted The Mail on Sunday to expose what they claimed was ‘positive discrimination’.
Fearing a public backlash if they allowed her result to stand, commanders backed down and asked Cpl Dougherty and the other soldiers who failed the march to leave.
Last night, a soldier on the course said: ‘The blokes were livid because it is written in black and white in the course handbook that if you fail the march, you’re pulled off the PSBC [Platoon Sergeants’ Battle Course] immediately. There is no review.
‘Commanders wanted to get Cpl Dougherty through the course, almost at any cost, even if she wasn’t fit enough and even if that meant leniency being shown to weaker male soldiers who also failed the march. We couldn’t believe they were still on the base and attending classes. It took a revolt among the troops and some people going to the Press to get this stopped.’
rest at link
Hitch
29th January 2019, 07:48 PM
So I just watched the video.
I don't understand the "exercise". Why run full speed into a "door"? In a real situation no one would. They are not in full gear. No axes in hand. Are doors in the UK weighted? Why not smash the door lock with the axe and swing the door?
Then you add in the Hollywood movie clip.
The whole video was a bunch of BS.
Well said, Osoab. That video was BS. Anyone who tries to break down a door that way, in real life, is likely to get injured. There's tools, that both men and women, can use. A fire ax, or a halligan bar ideally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halligan_bar
My go to tool off the engine on a call, was the halligan.
I'm all up for pro men anti-feminist points, but this thread is ridiculous.
Neuro
30th January 2019, 12:55 AM
Well said, Osoab. That video was BS. Anyone who tries to break down a door that way, in real life, is likely to get injured. There's tools, that both men and women, can use. A fire ax, or a halligan bar ideally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halligan_bar
My go to tool off the engine on a call, was the halligan.
I'm all up for pro men anti-feminist points, but this thread is ridiculous.
The video footage is from a gameshow, we have that same gameshow in Sweden. She was just stupid she needed to jump up higher on that “door” to get better momentum. Of course it helps to understand basic physics if you are a fireman, but probably many others are exempt from that as well.
Regardless, it is insanity to entice women into life and death jobs where physical strength is paramount. Any society who tries that is on a suicide mission.
Hitch
30th January 2019, 08:45 AM
The video footage is from a gameshow, we have that same gameshow in Sweden. She was just stupid she needed to jump up higher on that “door” to get better momentum. Of course it helps to understand basic physics if you are a fireman, but probably many others are exempt from that as well.
Regardless, it is insanity to entice women into life and death jobs where physical strength is paramount. Any society who tries that is on a suicide mission.
I have a past history in the fire service, and the fact is, women have to meet the same physical strength requirements that men do. What that means, is women have to train harder and be more dedicated then men need to do. I've served alongside some very fit women, and some even beat me on time on the physical agility test.
The way it works, is every firefighter needs to pass a physical agility test to get hired, and at least once a year after that to ensure the firefighters stay fit for duty. Both men and women have to pass the same test. The test is based upon actually tasks you need to perform on a fire, such as dragging a charged hose line, dragging a 175 pound "dummy" person a couple hundred feet, climbing stairs with 75 lbs on your back, etc. These tests are usually very tough and require training, from everyone, to pass.
Jewboo
30th January 2019, 09:23 AM
... There's tools, that both men and women, can use. A fire ax, or a halligan bar ideally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halligan_barMy go to tool off the engine on a call, was the halligan.
http://www.vententersearch.com/images/tips/step.jpg http://www.watershedpost.com/sites/default/files/u4/Wall%20Breach.JPG
https://api.ning.com/files/wnCiNpuM8aJ1fMJeFD9sJoKwRi14YrLwFDnpX9nvzY0h1kC1hB wbIXMNtWYnBDuBYRpWkVP27VbxS8hWgYb5BZstGFBpLMCi/pbfd2.JPG https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wkUyWUFOKxg/hqdefault.jpg
:o Thanks for the education Pete. I did not know about this amazing tool. Short video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vLDCJk3wNk
Neuro
30th January 2019, 09:42 AM
I have a past history in the fire service, and the fact is, women have to meet the same physical strength requirements that men do. What that means, is women have to train harder and be more dedicated then men need to do. I've served alongside some very fit women, and some even beat me on time on the physical agility test.
The way it works, is every firefighter needs to pass a physical agility test to get hired, and at least once a year after that to ensure the firefighters stay fit for duty. Both men and women have to pass the same test. The test is based upon actually tasks you need to perform on a fire, such as dragging a charged hose line, dragging a 175 pound "dummy" person a couple hundred feet, climbing stairs with 75 lbs on your back, etc. These tests are usually very tough and require training, from everyone, to pass.
I guess I am a bit conservative in that I don’t want women in jobs where they can get killed due to the nature of the job. Like some parts of police force, military and fire department. Sure some women may do a fine job in positions like that too, but there are enough competent men (supposedly) to fill these positions I think. Biologically we have different roles, and I think it is a good Idea if society reflect these biological differences too.
madfranks
30th January 2019, 11:59 AM
I have a past history in the fire service, and the fact is, women have to meet the same physical strength requirements that men do.
Maybe back then, but the times, they are a-changin:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/28/whistleblower-fire-brigade-setting-pass-mark-10-higher-white-men/
West Midlands Fire Service requires white men to achieve 70 percent in a verbal, numerical, and mechanical reasoning test before they can progress to an evaluation of their physical fitness, while female candidates, black candidates, candidates with Asian roots, and other ethnic minorities only need to make 60 percent
BrewTech
30th January 2019, 01:20 PM
I guess I am a bit conservative in that I don’t want women in jobs where they can get killed due to the nature of the job. Like some parts of police force, military and fire department. Sure some women may do a fine job in positions like that too, but there are enough competent men (supposedly) to fill these positions I think. Biologically we have different roles, and I think it is a good Idea if society reflect these biological differences too.
There are no biological differences ya fuckin' bigot! Know how I know? Bio- LOGICAL? OMG even the word drips of white patriarchy!!
;)
kiffertom
31st January 2019, 07:06 PM
maybe its time for a sex change! if this shit were easy theyd have women and children doing it!
vacuum
1st February 2019, 02:37 AM
will merit ever return?
It will. Thats the natural order of things.
The only thing I'm worried about is what will have to happen to bring things back into balance. I'm worried it can only end in catastrophe.
Neuro
1st February 2019, 04:51 AM
It will. Thats the natural order of things.
The only thing I'm worried about is what will have to happen to bring things back into balance. I'm worried it can only end in catastrophe.
Behind every catastrophe there’s a woman!
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