South Dakota passes constitutional concealed carry

[Tumbleweed]

I've been working with the Gun Owners of South Dakota for a lot of years trying to get this bill passed. It's passed twice but our asshole, communist former governor vetoed it twice, the son of a bitch.






Noem signs no-permit concealed-carry gun bill into SD law


Del Bartels Capitol Bureau
Feb 1, 2019 Updated 15 hrs ago









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Governor Kristi Noem used the ‘constitutional carry’ or ‘permitless carry’ bill as her first-ever signing of a bill into law. The Capitol rotunda was filled with legislators and other citizens, January 31, to witness the historic event, and to hear Noem’s words.

“It’s been debated; it’s been vetted; to lawfully carry a firearm for self defense … one covered by a coat or in a handbag,” Noem said. “Permit or permitless, this gives South Dakotans freedom to choose the best system that works for them.”

During the signing ceremony of Senate Bill 47, she added that citizens still have to fulfill the legal requirements of who can own, carry, and conceal a firearm. Noem said many South Dakotans still will obtain a concealed-carry permit to allow them to carry in other states with reciprocal agreements.
The law making it legal to carry a concealed gun in the state without a permit will go into effect July 1.

[latemetal1]

And how does this effect reciprocity? Otherwise, good job guys.

[BrewTech]

And how does this effect reciprocity? Otherwise, good job gys.

Hey, show the Guv some respect, you misogynist! :p

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[Tumbleweed]

And how does this effect reciprocity?

I don't think it has any effect on the reciprocity agreements. Reciprocity is mentioned in the article below.

https://ktla.com/2019/02/01/south-dakota-becomes-latest-state-to-allow-concealed-handguns-without-a-permit/





In signing the legislation Thursday, Gov. Kristi Noem (https://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=24150)made her state the latest to allow the practice. It’s the first bill she’s signed into law since she took office last month.
The legislation, which will go into effect on July 1, is designed to “protect the Second Amendment rights of South Dakotans by allowing constitutional carry,” she said.
“More than 230 years ago, the Founding Fathers of our country penned the Constitution that has since laid the framework for centuries of policies,” the Republican governor said.
“They so firmly believed in the importance of the freedom to bear arms that they enshrined it into the Constitution’s Second Amendment.”
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wyoming also do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon, the National Rifle Association and the National Conference of State Legislatures said.
The Argus Leader, a daily newspaper based in Sioux Falls, (https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2019/01/31/gov-kristi-noem-signs-constitutional-carry-into-law-south-dakota/2730395002/) quotes the governor as saying a “robust and thoughtful process” of debate resulted in the passage of the measure.
She says the law still maintains “restrictions… on who can carry a concealed handgun” and residents can decide for themselves whether to get a permit, according to the newspaper.
“A common sense measure”

The National Rifle Association (https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190131/governor-noem-signs-nra-backed-constitutional-carry-bill) applauded the new law as a reasonable move that enhances legislation already on the books.
The state already recognizes the right to carry a firearm openly without a permit, the NRA said.
“Current law, however, requires a state-issued permit to carry that same firearm under a coat or in a bag. This new law simply extends the current open carry rule to concealed carry. Those who obtain permits will still enjoy the reciprocity agreements that South Dakota has with other states.”
Chris W. Cox, executive director of the group’s Institute for Legislative Action, thanked Noem “for her leadership on this critical issue.”
“This law is a common sense measure that allows law-abiding South Dakotans to exercise their fundamental right to self-protection in the manner that best suits their needs.”

[Jewboo]

Governor Kristi Noem used the ‘constitutional carry’ or ‘permitless carry’ bill as her first-ever signing of a bill into law.




According to her Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem) she appears exceptional Tumbleweed. We also have permitless carry in Idaho.

:o

[Hitch]

Question, if on my travels I find myself in South Dakota, or Idaho, can I conceal carry as well? Or, does this only apply to residents. I'm from CA.

[Tumbleweed]

Question, if on my travels I find myself in South Dakota, or Idaho, can I conceal carry as well? Or, does this only apply to residents. I'm from CA.

I think it applies to everyone that enters the state and not just residents but I'm waiting for clarification on that. Hundreds of thousands of bikers come in to the state for the motorcycle rally every year and I'm sure they'll be wondering about this too. There was a study done in the past and it was estimated that about 80% of them were armed whether it was legal or not. There have been some shootouts over the years. It's best to be armed. I always am.

[Tumbleweed]

According to her Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem) she appears exceptional Tumbleweed. We also have permitless carry in Idaho.

:o

She does work pretty hard for the ranchers and has been around visiting with them over the years. She's pretty conservative it seems to me and I voted for her for governor.

I've always packed a gun when I've been in Idaho but never had any problems there. :)

[Hitch]

I think it applies to everyone that enters the state and not just residents but I'm waiting for clarification on that. Hundreds of thousands of bikers come in to the state for the motorcycle rally every year and I'm sure they'll be wondering about this too. There was a study done in the past and it was estimated that about 80% of them were armed whether it was legal or not. There have been some shootouts over the years. It's best to be armed. I always am.

In CA, to get a CCW. I first pay $133 and fill out an application, which goes to an initial background investigation. I then get fingerprinted, and my background gets reviewed. I then go in person to a pass a physical interview. If I pass that...then the full background investigation begins. I pay another $150 for a psychological assesment. I go to a medical evaluation after that, and need to pass that.

After all that...a sheriff will meet with me, visit my home, talk to my family, and make the decision. If a No is given, I'm not refunded my money. A no can be given for any reason, such as he didn't get his morning coffee and was grumpy.

It takes a minimum of 90 days to go through all that. And, if accepted, it's only good for 2 years, and you have to go through all that BS again.

But, they are kind enough to say "your patience is appreciated during this time."

[Jewboo]

Question, if on my travels I find myself in South Dakota, or Idaho, can I conceal carry as well? Or, does this only apply to residents. I'm from CA.



You still mad at me Pete?

:D

[Hitch]

You still mad at me Pete?

:D

Don't know....I haven't passed the psychological background check for my CCW yet, here in CA. I'm sure they will find something I may be mad at. :)

[Jewboo]

Don't know....I haven't passed the psychological background check for my CCW yet, here in CA. I'm sure they will find something I may be mad at. :)



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You waited too long to beat me up Pete. I'm now seventy.

How 'bout I pay your bar tab with my Social Security Retirement check instead?

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[Hitch]

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You waited too long to beat me up Pete. I'm now seventy.

How 'bout I pay your bar tab with my Social Security Retirement check instead?

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I do vaguely recall a few "good natured" insults sent your way over the years, maybe a loosely interpreted threat..but I figured bygones. I'm getting older too, you know. By the way, congrats on 70. Hope you did something special to celebrate.

[Jewboo]

I do vaguely recall a few "good natured" insults sent your way over the years, maybe a loosely interpreted threat..but I figured bygones. I'm getting older too, you know. By the way, congrats on 70. Hope you did something special to celebrate.



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In hindsight I was a dick. I apologize Pete and owe you the beer.

--H H--

[Hitch]

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In hindsight I was a dick. I apologize Pete and owe you the beer.

--H H--


You wanted to share knowledge, in a tough way. Lot's of us on this forum thank you for that, Book. You are, and have always been, the real deal.

Our society is becoming soft. Men like you are a breath of fresh air, imo. We are all walking on egg shells these days, worried about offending folks.

I would drink a beer with you anytime. Cheers.

[Jewboo]

You wanted to share knowledge, in a tough way. Lot's of us on this forum thank you for that, Book. You are, and have always been, the real deal.

Our society is becoming soft. Men like you are a breath of fresh air, imo. We are all walking on egg shells these days, worried about offending folks.

I would drink a beer with you anytime. Cheers.

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Thanks, Pete, but I went too far sometimes.

:(

[Jewboo]

Question, if on my travels I find myself in South Dakota, or Idaho, can I conceal carry as well? Or, does this only apply to residents. I'm from CA.

Concealed Weapons

LINK (https://www.idaho.gov/laws-public-safety/gun-weapon-law/)


As of July 1, 2016, Idaho statute allows residents 21 years of age, not disqualified from having a permit, to carry a concealed firearm statewide without a permit. Permitless carry is already legal outside of city limits for individuals 18 or older, and open carry is currently legal within city limits.


A person does not have to have a concealed weapons license to carry or be in possession of a deadly weapon or firearm in the following circumstances:


Any deadly weapon located in plain view;
Any lawfully possessed shotgun or rifle;

A firearm that is not loaded and is concealed in a motor vehicle;

A firearm that is not loaded and is secured in a case;
A firearm that is disassembled or permanently altered such that it is not readily operable; and
A concealed handgun by a person who is:

Over twenty-one (21) years of age;
A resident of Idaho; and
Is not disqualified from being issued a license under subsection (11) of this section

[Tumbleweed]

In CA, to get a CCW. I first pay $133 and fill out an application, which goes to an initial background investigation. I then get fingerprinted, and my background gets reviewed. I then go in person to a pass a physical interview. If I pass that...then the full background investigation begins. I pay another $150 for a psychological assesment. I go to a medical evaluation after that, and need to pass that.

After all that...a sheriff will meet with me, visit my home, talk to my family, and make the decision. If a No is given, I'm not refunded my money. A no can be given for any reason, such as he didn't get his morning coffee and was grumpy.

It takes a minimum of 90 days to go through all that. And, if accepted, it's only good for 2 years, and you have to go through all that BS again.

But, they are kind enough to say "your patience is appreciated during this time."


To get a concealed carry permit here you fill out a form like the one you do when you buy a gun and give them them ten dollars. They do a call in background check to see if you're a criminal then issue a permit.

[hoarder]

If you live in a state that doesn't require a permit for concealed carry, you still have to get one to travel out of state. I already had my Montana CWP when they passed the legal carry law a few years ago. I kept and renewed my CWP in case I travel to states that reciprocate with Montana.

[Jewboo]

If you live in a state that doesn't require a permit for concealed carry, you still have to get one to travel out of state. I already had my Montana CWP when they passed the legal carry law a few years ago. I kept and renewed my CWP in case I travel to states that reciprocate with Montana.

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Idaho’s standard concealed carry permit, which requires only a basic classroom-based firearm safety course and a background check — no range time — hasn’t gone away.But Debbie McRae, supervisor at Canyon County’s Department of Motor Vehicles, where concealed weapon license applications are processed, said applications for the standard license have been on a downward trend since the enhanced license was introduced last July.

In terms of raw numbers, she said, the standard permit remains more popular with 850 applications since July 1, 2013, compared to 478 for the enhanced. But in recent months, the enhanced license has begun to overtake the standard in number of applications per month.That’s not including the 1,475 renewal applications processed in the past year, McRae said — all of which are for the standard permit. The enhanced license hasn’t been around long enough to require renewals.

“We’re really starting to see an increase in (enhanced license applications),” McRae said. “I think one of the biggest hindrances is the cost of the training. And currently there are only five additional states that recognize the enhanced, and so people are weighing their options. Is it worth $150 to take the training just to go to five additional states? And there’s really only two states that are close.”

Within Idaho’s borders, the enhanced license grants only one privilege not afforded to standard permit holders: As of July 1, under the state’s new “guns on campus” legislation, those with the enhanced license may carry a firearm onto public university campuses in some areas.

The biggest advantage, according to Deputy Attorney General Stephanie Altig, is that they can carry a concealed weapon in five additional states: Nevada, New Mexico, South Carolina, Virginia and Washington. That’s in addition to the 26 states that already recognize Idaho’s standard license.

The rule of thumb, she said — though there are exceptions — is that a given state will recognize another state’s license if that state’s license requirements are equal or stricter than its own. The idea is that the enhanced license’s more stringent requirements are more likely to be accepted by other states.Idaho, meanwhile, recognizes concealed weapon licenses from issued by all states, Altig said, as long as the permit is valid and the holder has the card on their person.Increased reciprocity with other states was the main reason Idaho created the enhanced license, Altig said, and she considers the five states now on-board as a success. It’s about what she expected, she said, at this stage in the process.

“I knew that there were clusters of states that were just not going to do it,” Altig said. “Like California and Oregon. They’re the ones who are saying ‘no’ here. Some of them sort of surprised me. I’m not sure what Minnesota’s problem was. But there’s nothing I can do to convince them otherwise, because their state laws are what they are. ”The requirements for Minnesota’s concealed weapon license — the only level the state offers — are similar to Idaho’s standard permit, according to the Minnesota Department of Public Safety website.But Idaho officials will not stop there, Altig said. Just because a state said “no” the first time around — or didn’t respond at all — doesn’t mean the Attorney General’s office will just give up.After all, Altig said, they never know what might change on another state’s end. Its laws might change, or its officials might review and reconsider Idaho’s proposal.

Linky (https://www.idahopress.com/news/local/enhanced-license-gaining-steam-in-idaho/article_17f89734-04c1-11e4-843c-001a4bcf887a.html)

[Tumbleweed]

Concealed carry for women. :)





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[Jewboo]

It's best to be armed. I always am.



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[Tumbleweed]

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:)




Some good stuff on Clown World at the AR15 forum. :)


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[Tumbleweed]

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:)




Breaking and entering can be dangerous but you also need to be careful about road rage too. ;D





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