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StreetsOfGold
22nd March 2019, 05:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKBhdPS2XMc

midnight rambler
22nd March 2019, 11:17 AM
Curvature of the earth seen at ~55,000 ft, jump to 4:47 -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodM

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 12:14 PM
Curvature of the earth seen at ~55,000 ft, jump to 4:47 -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodMYes... and the horizon is flat and negative curved at other times because the entire video shows fish-eye lens distortion.

Watch this (note the proximity of the sun which causes a hot spot on the earth at 4:33):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwimocU0IIc&list=PLQCOKOZuhSS2L8beLNb9qHNd RJu3qHnSU&index=9

midnight rambler
22nd March 2019, 12:18 PM
I just love it when you guys scream, "FISH EYE LENS! FISH EYE LENS!" lol

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 12:43 PM
I just love it when you guys scream, "FISH EYE LENS! FISH EYE LENS!" lol
I love it when you guys scream that the earth is a globe flying through a vacuum at 80 times the speed of sound; gravity magically clings to the atmosphere and prevents it from being sucked into the vacuum of space but allows insects and birds to float effortlessly in mid air - it's magic!

midnight rambler
22nd March 2019, 01:06 PM
So Doc, why did sailing ships in days of old have crow's nests??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKQI18jr8Oc

How 'bout that mud flood?

osoab
22nd March 2019, 02:08 PM
So Doc, why did sailing ships in days of old have crow's nests??



You see more of the horizon at a higher elevation. Its just viewing perception.

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 02:18 PM
Flat earthers are the dumbest effing people on the planet. No point in even talking to them, as they are incapable of processing simple logic.

osoab
22nd March 2019, 02:40 PM
Flat earthers are the dumbest effing people on the planet. No point in even talking to them, as they are incapable of processing simple logic.

Disprove them. If I am given definitive proof of the oblate spheroid spinning ball, I would be ecstatic. However at this time, there is no definitive proof. Prove them wrong.

osoab
22nd March 2019, 03:09 PM
Interesting listen. Interview starts at 1:20.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlIfwVSyYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlIfwVSyYM

Cebu_4_2
22nd March 2019, 03:25 PM
I'm not a flat Earther by any means however those videos posted did make me realize how flat things appear. Except MR's post #6 which doesn't really impress me. Either we are not going high enough to see the curvature or are just too close to observe much of anything except flatness.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ancient+maps+of+earth&FORM=HDRSC2

midnight rambler
22nd March 2019, 03:32 PM
Meanwhile The Chosen laugh at the easily distracted.

How ‘bout that mud flood??

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 03:41 PM
Disprove them. If I am given definitive proof of the oblate spheroid spinning ball, I would be ecstatic. However at this time, there is no definitive proof. Prove them wrong.

I already did. Quite some time ago. My proof was conveniently ignored by their delusions. I'm done with wasting any time on them.

I only wanted to point out they are compete morons.

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 04:11 PM
Alright, any flat earther is welcome to try and disprove this video. Also, anyone interested in maritime navigation would like this as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-oUm4f84E

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 05:14 PM
Alright, any flat earther is welcome to try and disprove this video. Also, anyone interested in maritime navigation would like this as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-oUm4f84EDo you, who are so quick to ridicule and mock those with whom you disagree, understand the vast difference between theoretical and empirical observations? The gentleman in the video you posted has conducted calculations based on globe earth geometry, nothing more. It is a damn indisputable fact that numerous observations by ships of lighthouses have proved numerous times that theoretical calculations of visable range of said objects are FAR EXCEEDED by direct observations, calling into question the entire globe earth model. Do a little due diligence because whole books have been written documenting these observations by ships across decades and in some cases hundreds of miles! Stop condeming others out of ignorance and arrogance and read a little.

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 05:18 PM
Flat earthers are the dumbest effing people on the planet. No point in even talking to them, as they are incapable of processing simple logic.Is this an argument, or proclamation by a moron? I do not have the time or patience to explain it to you. Idiots like yourself are hopelessly mind-locked into the zeitgeist and incapable of acquiring new fundamental knowledge. Your are a waste of my typing.

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 05:20 PM
Do you, who are so quick to ridicule and mock those with whom you disagree, understand the vast difference between theoretical and empirical observations? The gentleman in the video you posted has conducted calculations based on globe earth geometry, nothing more. It is a damn indisputable fact that numerous observations by ships of lighthouses have proved numerous times that theoretical calculations of visable range of said objects are FAR EXCEEDED by direct observations, calling into question the entire globe earth model. Do a little due diligence because whole books have been written documenting these observations by ships across decades and in some cases hundreds of miles! Stop condeming others out of ignorance and arrogance and read a little.

I guess you didn't like the video....

Fact: What this video is about, works. You can fix your position using the curvature of the earth. Knowing where you are at is nice. A flat earther would be "lost at sea", and that's just no way to navigate, nor live life.

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 05:22 PM
Is this an argument, or proclamation by a moron? I do not have the time or patience to explain it to you. Idiots like yourself are hopelessly mind-locked into the zeitgeist and incapable of acquiring new fundamental knowledge. Your are a waste of my typing.

Thanks Doc. Again, I get trolled into one of these flat earth debates. I'll quit wasting your time, and mine, and consider our differences done.

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 05:41 PM
Thanks Doc. Again, I get trolled into one of these flat earth debates. I'll quit wasting your time, and mine, and consider our differences done.You've learned nothing; nor do you desire to learn.

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 05:43 PM
I guess you didn't like the video....

Fact: What this video is about, works. You can fix your position using the curvature of the earth. Knowing where you are at is nice. A flat earther would be "lost at sea", and that's just no way to navigate, nor live life.Unbelievable willful ignorance! You can't even distinguish between theory and observation when it's placed in front of your nose! What colossal ignorance!

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 05:52 PM
Unbelievable willful ignorance! You can't even distinguish between theory and observation when it's placed in front of your nose! What colossal ignorance!

I use the curvature of the earth to fix my position out at sea. It's not theory or observation, it's personal experience!

It works. I don't think there's anyone alive who works in the maritime industry, who believes the flat earth BS.

mamboni
22nd March 2019, 05:56 PM
I use the curvature of the earth to fix my position out at sea. It's not theory or observation, it's personal experience!

It works. I don't think there's anyone alive who works in the maritime industry, who believes the flat earth BS.You're joking or a fool. Nautical maps, like all such maps, are FLAT! Nowhere does the supposed curvature of the earth factor into sea navigation. You're FOS.

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 06:00 PM
You're joking or a fool. Nautical maps, like all such maps, are FLAT! Nowhere does the supposed curvature of the earth factor into sea navigation. You're FOS.

Watch the video I posted. You just showed me you didn't even bother watching it, before attacking my navigation methods. Typical flat earther tactic.

osoab
22nd March 2019, 06:35 PM
I use the curvature of the earth to fix my position out at sea. It's not theory or observation, it's personal experience!

It works. I don't think there's anyone alive who works in the maritime industry, who believes the flat earth BS.

I'll watch the vid above. Would you happen to have any links to the maritime formulas?

osoab
22nd March 2019, 06:49 PM
Watched the vid.


I disagree with the using nautical miles. The supposed radius/curvature of the Earth are in statute miles. Unless the calculations used are converting radius/curvature to nautical miles.

Using the Metabunk chart which is totally anti Flat Earth, with a view height of 10', the hidden distance is 143' at a 20 mile distance. All statute miles.

https://www.metabunk.org/curve/


The Captain in the vid was viewing an 85' tall lighthouse. So... What am I doing wrong?

Hitch
22nd March 2019, 06:58 PM
I'll watch the vid above. Would you happen to have any links to the maritime formulas?

The geographical range is calculated according to the following formula: P = 2.08 x (√H + √E)where:P = geographical range in nautical miles H = height of light from sea level in metres E= height of observer’s eye from sea level in metres

http://www.cosema.biz/eng/RANGE%20OF%20MARITIME%20SIGNAL%20LIGHTS.pdf

Hitch
24th March 2019, 07:46 PM
I disagree with the using nautical miles. The supposed radius/curvature of the Earth are in statute miles. Unless the calculations used are converting radius/curvature to nautical miles.

Nautical miles don't account for the curvature of the earth, it's a fixed number. Nautical miles refer to latitude degrees and minutes, where longitude reflects the curvature of the earth. This is how the old sailors did it.

Latitude (north/south), if you sailed one degree say latitude 30 to 31, you sailed 60 nautical miles North, ie sixty minutes. There are sixty nautical miles per degree of latitude, measured in minutes. That, is a fixed distance.

Your longitude decreases however the farther north you go from the equator. You plot your compass coarse based upon both numbers.

That's how you dead reckon a vessel at sea. By successfully dead reckoning a vessel, you prove (to yourself at least) flat earthers are wrong.

Some time in the future, we will have to go back to the old ways of navigating. Get comfortable with a compass. If you can find where you are at, on land and sea, without electronics, you will be OK. People who believe in flat earth, will be lost without youtube or the internet to help them with their delusions.