Who the fuck are you to question my entitlement??

[midnight rambler]

https://www.kxan.com/news/man-allegedly-punched-taco-bell-manager-who-confronted-him-about-filling-water-cup-with-soda/

[C.Martel]

Gosh I love this Amerika, fighting over a cup of GMO high fructose corn syrup! ;D

trump's 'Murica!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxHnXajIex4

[Cebu_4_2]

I do this all the time. If some self entitled fuck cares about his $8.00 an hour job risks his life confronting me he will get the same hammer. I have never been to any fast food place that gives a fuck enough to risk their life. Not sure the purpose of this article. Feel bad for the dude that wanted a drink, might have wanted water that was not available at the dispenser and HAD to choose a fountain drink.

[Cebu_4_2]

Gosh I love this Amerika, fighting over a cup of GMO high fructose corn syrup! ;D

trump's 'Murica!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxHnXajIex4

WTF any of this have to do with the POA Trump? Go home man.

[midnight rambler]

Apparently the troublemaker made this a routine and the manager finally confronted him over it.

There's no such thing as something for nothing.

[madfranks]

I do this all the time. If some self entitled fuck cares about his $8.00 an hour job risks his life confronting me he will get the same hammer. I have never been to any fast food place that gives a fuck enough to risk their life. Not sure the purpose of this article. Feel bad for the dude that wanted a drink, might have wanted water that was not available at the dispenser and HAD to choose a fountain drink.

You steal soda pop from fast food joints? Why would you do that?

[Cebu_4_2]

You steal soda pop from fast food joints? Why would you do that?

just A fuck with C. Martel.

[Neuro]

https://www.kxan.com/news/man-allegedly-punched-taco-bell-manager-who-confronted-him-about-filling-water-cup-with-soda/

The link says “Our European visitors are important to us”, and then logically tells that their content is not available for residents from the European economic area...

Nice doublespeak

[Horn]

I think it was sometime shortly after Reagan or Clinton gave credit to people living off a bowl of rice
in China that U.S.fastfood places turned their fountains around to face their guests.

Both decisions probably need to be rethought.

[osoab]

I think it was sometime shortly after Reagan or Clinton gave credit to people living off a bowl of rice
in China that U.S.fastfood places turned their fountains around to face their guests.

Both decisions probably need to be rethought.

That's only at drive thrus. They went to self serve two+ decades ago. They need to feed the HFC to the masses. The beginning of free refills.

[Horn]

That's only at drive thrus. They went to self serve two+ decades ago. They need to feed the HFC to the masses. The beginning of free refills.

I've never understood it, if you're going to turn your product around and lead the public to it like a feed trough

There's 0 chance at managing it.

[Cebu_4_2]

You steal soda pop from fast food joints? Why would you do that?

A watercup then add iced tea, why the hate?

[Hitch]

A watercup then add iced tea, why the hate?

He only asked a question. There was no hate, I agree with him, why steal soda from fast food joints? For most folks, stealing is wrong. It's actually even one of the ten commandments.

[Horn]

He only asked a question. There was no hate, I agree with him, why steal soda from fast food joints? For most folks, stealing is wrong. It's actually even one of the ten commandments.

I dint see or hear anyone stealing anything anywhere. Some one was handed a cup and took the cheaper soda than filtered water.

[Neuro]

He only asked a question. There was no hate, I agree with him, why steal soda from fast food joints? For most folks, stealing is wrong. It's actually even one of the ten commandments.

Stealing is wrong for anyone not being a psychopath. I suppose one can condone stealing if ones life or serious bodily injury is on the table without the stolen goods and the stealing would not have that impact on the injured party. Like if you get lost in a Snowstorm and you have to break into a vacation home to get some food and warmth to avoid freezing to death.

Going in and stealing soda from a fast food fountain would usually not qualify.

[Neuro]

I dint see or hear anyone stealing anything anywhere. Some one was handed a cup and took the cheaper soda than filtered water.


Soda is cheaper than water at the restaurant? How much did he pay?

[Hitch]

Soda is cheaper than water at the restaurant? How much did he pay?

A cup for water is free in a restaurant. A cup for soda, you pay more for. So, it is stealing, even if it's only a dollar more.

Read the article that Tumbleweed posted in another thread. It starts by stealing candy bars as kids, then works it's way to full on hold up men (armed robbers). It's not the size of the theft, it's the lack of morals that is important to realize.

If you have to break into a cabin to keep from freezing, than life safety may be worth more than taking a few items at the moment. If that's the case, you come back to the owner and make amends. You owe that owner a debt you should pay.

Cebu needs to go to every restaurant he stole soda from, and make amends.

[Horn]

Soda is cheaper than water at the restaurant? How much did he pay?

Soda is cheaper than purified water everywhere.

Nobody stole anything, guy just chose something he wasn't supposed to and should not have attempt at being managed (obviously)

[midnight rambler]

Water at a drink station in fast food restaurants is strictly tap water, no filters or purifiers in use. Anyone who thinks a fast food restaurant (or any restaurant for that matter) is going to go to the expense of buying and maintaining any water filters or purifiers is out of touch with reality.

[Cebu_4_2]

Water at a drink station in fast food restaurants is strictly tap water, no filters or purifiers in use. Anyone who thinks a fast food restaurant (or any restaurant for that matter) is going to go to the expense of buying and maintaining any water filters or purifiers is out of touch with reality.

That is definitely wrong, at least in MI where my wife worked. I saw the purification room, was off limits but I checked. definitely a fluoride filter in there.

[BrewTech]

Water at a drink station in fast food restaurants is strictly tap water, no filters or purifiers in use. Anyone who thinks a fast food restaurant (or any restaurant for that matter) is going to go to the expense of buying and maintaining any water filters or purifiers is out of touch with reality.

The brewpub I worked at had filtered water. Ice was crystal clear. I maintained all the filters because it was important, and the customers really appreciated it.

[midnight rambler]

Restaurants, especially fast food restaurants, don't have extra money to throw at such things that people will never notice, pay attention to, or even ask about. Filtering/purifying water doesn't give a ROI so why bother? In my business I have some experience dealing with restaurants, and take my word for it they don't have the money to cover the essentials (like keeping up their building). It's gotta to the point I don't even bother with restaurants because they just will not spend money on the essentials, they just as soon let their buildings rot around them.

[midnight rambler]

The brewpub I worked at had filtered water. Ice was crystal clear. I maintained all the filters because it was important, and the customers really appreciated it.

Brewpubs have more cash to spend than restaurants, plus they need filtered water for their brews. Restaurant management are the cheapest fuckers I've ever encountered.

[BrewTech]

Brewpubs have more cash to spend than restaurants, plus they need filtered water for their brews. Restaurant management are the cheapest fuckers I've ever encountered.
While I don't dispute your point, the restaurant had separate filters for the brewery and restaurant. Brewery was mandatory, the restaurant filters were considered a good investment in quality.

[midnight rambler]

I can name national chain restaurants whose management prefers letting their buildings rot into the ground around them rather than do crucial upkeep, and they aren't fast food outlets.

In total contrast is Chick-fil-a management. They get things fixed immediately/practice zero deferred maintenance, when they aren't totally or partially remodeling.

[Neuro]

Soda is cheaper than purified water everywhere.

Nobody stole anything, guy just chose something he wasn't supposed to and should not have attempt at being managed (obviously)
Moral relativism... He didn’t steal anything because you think so? A few years ago, there was a music festival in our little town, my children made home made Ice Tea (made with tap water) which they sold at the street outside our house to the festival goers. You think you have just the right to help yourself to a glass of their ice tea, because it was cheap to make vs some fancy filtered water?

[Neuro]

Soda is cheaper than purified water everywhere.

Nobody stole anything, guy just chose something he wasn't supposed to and should not have attempt at being managed (obviously)
Moral relativism... He didn’t steal anything because you think so? A few years ago, there was a music festival in our little town, my children made home made Ice Tea (made with tap water) which they sold at the street outside our house to the festival goers. You think you have just the right to help yourself to a glass of their ice tea, because it was cheap to make vs some fancy filtered water?

[Horn]

Moral relativism... He didn’t steal anything because you think so? A few years ago, there was a music festival in our little town, my children made home made Ice Tea (made with tap water) which they sold at the street outside our house to the festival goers. You think you have just the right to help yourself to a glass of their ice tea, because it was cheap to make vs some fancy filtered water?

Not sure how this example has anything to do with the related story. Our story here has some bum being given a cuo to help himself to a fountain of choices. Maybe he asked for water maybe he was directed to water, and then again because it appears as a repeated daily offering from the manager he might have not been directed to take only water on this particular day, but only assumed to be directed by any number of previous days directions to water only. Its not stealing but an entitlement choice as the thread title states. And one that should be managed by the offering of the cup in the first place, not managing the cupees choice of similarly priced readily available products thereafter. Could be the choice was easily mistaken from a formerly robotic habitual purchased cop of soda.

Your motion is denied, but a follow punch to the face, however desired, certainly unwarranted.

[osoab]

Back when I frequented such establishments the water cups were small 2 oz cups. Is this still in practice?

[Neuro]

Not sure how this example has anything to do with the related story. Our story here has some bum being given a cuo to help himself to a fountain of choices. Maybe he asked for water maybe he was directed to water, and then again because it appears as a repeated daily offering from the manager he might have not been directed to take only water on this particular day, but only assumed to be directed by any number of previous days directions to water only. Its not stealing but an entitlement choice as the thread title states. And one that should be managed by the offering of the cup in the first place, not managing the cupees choice of similarly priced readily available products thereafter. Could be the choice was easily mistaken from a formerly robotic habitual purchased cop of soda.

Your motion is denied, but a follow punch to the face, however desired, certainly unwarranted.

Right, thanks for giving me the bigger picture...

[Horn]

Back when I frequented such establishments the water cups were small 2 oz cups. Is this still in practice?

What I wonder is if its the franchisees decision if he wants to face the fountain towards the public or if that is a franchisor brand stipulation?

They keep the taps away fron the employees which is the bigger savings.

Do the franchise somehow save billions of dollars per year in sevice dollars by leaving the choice up to the customer?

[Hitch]

Do the franchise somehow save billions of dollars per year in sevice dollars by leaving the choice up to the customer?

If that were the case, why charge the honest customers more for soda than water? Just have one cup, free, for whatever you like. The way they do it now rewards dishonest people. Pay more to be honest...lol. Great plan.

[Neuro]

If that were the case, why charge the honest customers more for soda than water? Just have one cup, free, for whatever you like. The way they do it now rewards dishonest people. Pay more to be honest...lol. Great plan.

I would imagine soda companies demand this difference...

[Hitch]

I would imagine soda companies demand this difference...

I would imagine that as well...

But the argument still stands. People in this thread seem to think you shouldn't need to pay more for soda.

So, to them, who pays for it? The soda companies, the franchise, or the customer? It really is that simple of a question. Somebody always pays. If it's not you, you maybe the thief.

[Cebu_4_2]

Nope water cup. Fill it up with tea. It's an option for free. Nowhere does it say you cant do this.

[Hitch]

Nope water cup. Fill it up with tea. It's an option for free. Nowhere does it say you cant do this.

BS. Honest people pay more for the tea. It's on the menu with a price. You are a thief.

If the manager says you can't do that, are you going to punch him? You could be the article this whole topic is about.

[Horn]

There's virtually no difference in costs between soda or water, with cup size and demand the only determining factor
.
Hitch wants soda, he gets soda at a demand cost price.

My bet is they turned fountains over to the public because employees and managerz refilling their own "entitled" cups all day long.


Some manager trying to manage the oprions avaialable after offering just representing the mind numbing stupidity available at every fastfood fountain in the U.S.today.

[Hitch]

There's virtually no difference in costs between soda or water, with cup size and demand the only determining factor
.
Hitch wants soda, he gets soda at a demand cost price.

My bet is they turned fountains over to the public because employees and managerz refilling their own "entitled" cups all day long.


Some manager trying to manage the oprions avaialable after offering just representing the mind numbing stupidity available at every fastfood fountain in the U.S.today.

Horn, you are just too dense to realize the point.

The costs are this: the honest man pays more for soda (per the restaurants rules.)

The dishonest man steals the soda.

That's it! Period. Split hairs if you want, but that is the facts.

[Horn]

Horn, you are just too dense to realize the point.

The costs are this: the honest man pays more for soda (per the restaurants rules.)

The dishonest man steals the soda.

That's it! Period. Split hairs if you want, but that is the facts.

You dont pay for a soda Hitch, you pay for the cup.

And a cup was simply handed to the bum. Soda or water is splitting the hairs that you do.

And like the dumb manager who got leveled did.

[Hitch]

You dont pay for a soda Hitch, you pay for the cup.

Horn, the "cup" determines what you've paid for to drink. That is the point.

In a bar, there are two cups in front of you. One, a 12 year old single malt scotch. The other cup has water. Are those cups the same?

[Hitch]

You dont pay for a soda Hitch, you pay for the cup.

If you are right, go into a bar and pay for a cup.

After you pay for the cup, ask them to fill it with Johnny walker blue label.

Let us all know what happens after that.

[Horn]

Correct, and he had his cup. He wasn't opened mouth under the fountain.

That the manager was even a position to be knocked out when correcting him is another testament to his stupidity along with splitting his administrative hairs over soda or water. No theft here.

[Hitch]

Correct, and he had his cup. He wasn't opened mouth under the fountain.

That the manager was even a position to be knocked out when correcting him is another testament to his stupidity along with splitting his administrative hairs over soda or water. No morals here.

I fixed that for you, Horn. Yes, no morals here. There was theft, that IS a fact. Seems theft isn't morally wrong for some folks here.

[Neuro]

I fixed that for you, Horn. Yes, no morals here. There was theft, that IS a fact. Seems theft isn't morally wrong for some folks here.

The ultimate straw man Hitch. In a way it’s like if you put a bowl of candy in front of a 5 year old, and tell them that they are only allowed to eat three pieces, you wouldn’t start yelling about theft when they take the 4th piece would you?

Anyway I guess the moral of the story is that he wouldn’t be welcome into the restaurant for free drinks in the future, I think, and it is probably not because he “was stealing”.

[ziero0]

ask them to fill it with Johnny walker blue
You must be living the LIFESTYLE OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS.

I would ask them to fill it with Johnny Walker Red and then add a few drops of blue food coloring.

[Horn]

Theft implies intent to take something away from someone else, you are assuming that the punch that leveled the dumb manager was to defend this intent.

At no point in our story (as told to us here) do you have any evidence that intent initially existed.

In fact it is more so disproved by the accused's actions of requesting a cup and it summarily being offered to him by the dumb unconcious hairsplitting manager.

Instant Justice Deserts were then served and our consciouness morality merrily streamwards