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midnight rambler
24th September 2019, 01:00 AM
I like this guy, he's one of us. He gives some excellent advice (mostly toward the end of the video).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkekvWpcxU

Bigjon
24th September 2019, 08:03 AM
Great video; I would take it one step further.

I don't have any evidence that I am a US Citizen, do you have any evidence that I am?

Tumbleweed
24th September 2019, 08:27 AM
One of my favorite places to eat and get a cup of coffee has a sign by the door that says "Guns Welcome". ;D

ziero0
24th September 2019, 12:24 PM
a sign by the door that says "Guns Welcome". ;D

Plural ... means you have to pack one on each hip, a third in your boot and another up your sleeve.

osoab
24th September 2019, 02:57 PM
Plural ... means you have to pack one on each hip, a third in your boot and another up your sleeve.

Is there anything wrong with that?

ziero0
24th September 2019, 04:03 PM
Is there anything wrong with that?

This passage from Bouviers law dictionary seems to cover it (re - concealment):

Fraud occurs when one person substantially misrepresents or conceals a material fact peculiarly within his own knowledge, in consequence of which a delusion exists; or uses a device naturally calculated to lull the suspicions of a careful man, and induce him to forego inquiry into a matter upon which the other party has information, although such information be not exclusively within his reach.

osoab
24th September 2019, 05:03 PM
This passage from Bouviers law dictionary seems to cover it (re - concealment):

Fraud occurs when one person substantially misrepresents or conceals a material fact peculiarly within his own knowledge, in consequence of which a delusion exists; or uses a device naturally calculated to lull the suspicions of a careful man, and induce him to forego inquiry into a matter upon which the other party has information, although such information be not exclusively within his reach.

Fraud would need to be determined based on the meaning/intent of the sign. Was the sign a welcome for one to bring many guns or was it an invitation to all that might carry a gun? What might have been a proper wording to show welcome to those that might carry into a watering hole?

ziero0
24th September 2019, 05:32 PM
Fraud would need to be determined based on the meaning/intent of the sign.
The only fraud would be the sleeve gun and the boot gun. Open carry is its' own notice.


Was the sign a welcome for one to bring many guns or was it an invitation to all that might carry a gun? What might have been a proper wording to show welcome to those that might carry into a watering hole?
"Guns Welcome" => "Patrons Are Requested To Be Polite At All Times"

It is not the clothes or ornaments. It is the attitude and action.

osoab
25th September 2019, 05:09 AM
The only fraud would be the sleeve gun and the boot gun. Open carry is its' own notice.


"Guns Welcome" => "Patrons Are Requested To Be Polite At All Times"

It is not the clothes or ornaments. It is the attitude and action.

But what if the sign was just a welcome for members of the Gun family?

ziero0
25th September 2019, 06:07 AM
But what if the sign was just a welcome for members of the Gun family?

Wouldn't that mean everyone else was not welcome? Not a good message to a business that operates on the largess of the public.

osoab
25th September 2019, 04:17 PM
Wouldn't that mean everyone else was not welcome? Not a good message to a business that operates on the largess of the public.

The whole town might be related. Strangers will just have to put up with it.

Tumbleweed
25th September 2019, 07:07 PM
Plural ... means you have to pack one on each hip, a third in your boot and another up your sleeve.

When I've been in there I've had one in my pocket, one in my boot and one in a shoulder rig under my left arm when I was wearing a vest. I think I probably had your requirements covered. ;D I have a concealed carry permit and we also have constitutional carry.

ziero0
25th September 2019, 07:10 PM
When I've been in there I've had one in my pocket, one in my boot and one in a shoulder rig under my left arm when I was wearing a vest.
What are you afraid of?

It is not the real world we need to fear. The ARMY can train grunts to charge machine gun nests in 90 days. Mention IRS and brave men blanch with fear.

Tumbleweed
25th September 2019, 07:15 PM
What are you afraid of?



Not a damn thing. ;D


Thought I'd edit this to say in the pocket I don't have a gun I carry a switch blade that's sharp as a razor.

ziero0
25th September 2019, 08:17 PM
Thought I'd edit this to say in the pocket I don't have a gun I carry a switch blade that's sharp as a razor.

Good to know. For myself I have worked out an arrangement with the undertaker. In the event of war I have been well trained to be the finest target on the battlefield.

cheka.
25th September 2019, 11:57 PM
i have a friend like t-weed. never feel safer than in his company. john is ready to ball. hat tip to both of you

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