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Amanda
25th September 2019, 03:15 PM
Thought Jim Stone's take on this was interesting:
Here is a very short summary of why impeachment is being pushed against Trump: It is because a new government was put in place in Ukraine that intends to drain the Ukraine swamp the way Trump wanted to drain America's swamp, and if Trump is not ousted NOW, powerful people in the United States will go to jail for what Ukraine is going to reveal. In short: The Dems are throwing a hail mary in hopes of saving themselves from jail time. If they can get rid of Trump before all the investigations in Ukraine are finalized, they can take refuge behind whatever crony they manage to replace Trump with and then tell Ukraine to "go to hell". If they fail, Trump won't have to prosecute anything, significant enough investigation and prosecution will happen in Ukraine to majorly toast some very powerful Democrats. In short, corrupted people short circuited the American judicial process, but they can't short circuit that process in Ukraine and they are scared sh*tless because Ukraine is going to nail them. They therefore need protection here, like crooks that run off to Israel get from Israel and they can't get that protection with Trump as president.
The Dems fired an impeachment scud, and Giuliani responded with a nuke on This Fox and Friends interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MrpkZVbyw) 22 minutes.<font face="arial">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MrpkZVbyw
And Sundance over at conservativetreehouse, thinks it's all about going after crowdstrike:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/25/its-not-about-biden-deep-state-response-to-ukraine-call-now-makes-sense-trump-questioned-crowdstrike/
The completely over-the-top response by a Deep State embed whistleblower and his/her political allies withing the administrative state now makes sense; it had nothing to do with Joe Biden. President Trump asked President Zelenskyy about “Crowdstrike.”
To understand how important this is, we must remember the foundation for the entire Russian election interference narrative, ‘Muh Russia – writ large, is built on the claim Russians hacked the servers of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and subsequently released damaging emails that showed the DNC worked to help Hillary Clinton and eliminate Bernie Sanders.
Despite the Russian ‘hacking’ claim the DOJ and FBI previously admitted (https://youtu.be/M7kh2bZw5Ic) the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server or cloud-based network. Instead the original claim was that the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.
According to the original FBI statements made by James Comey (https://youtu.be/M7kh2bZw5Ic): Crowdstrike did the captured imaging of the DNC network (servers/cloud), then conducted analysis, then provided a report to the DNC with their findings; and that report was given to the FBI. At least that was the original 2017 claim. However, during court filings in the case against Roger Stone, the DOJ/FBI later admitted they never even saw (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/15/doj-admits-fbi-never-saw-crowdstrike-report-on-dnc-russian-hacking-claim/) the Crowstrike final report.
Lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission (https://www.scribd.com/document/413428947/Stone-De-123-DOJ-Response-to-MTC-Crowdstrike-Reports). Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server or cloud data, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the final Crowdstrike report
Jim Stone linked to this as being very important:
Democrats Wrote to Ukraine in May 2018, Demanding It Investigate Trump
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/24/democrats-wrote-to-ukraine-in-may-demanding-it-investigate-trump/
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Also, from reading the transcript, I saw that Trump said something about Zelinsky should contact the AG (so I guess Trump is still under the impression that Barr is actually looking into things???)
C.Martel
25th September 2019, 03:33 PM
It is because a new government was put in place in Ukraine that intends to drain the Ukraine swamp the way Trump wanted to drain America's swamp
Who believes this? lol
This is meet new boss, same as old boss.
So the statement is not far off. Both are zionist puppets or puppeteers as in Ukraine's case. And the new swamp will be worse than the old swamp.
trump has the same zionist masters. And Ukraine is led by a jew. A saviour jew who will drain the swamp.
This is comedy here. But go along and support your zionist flavor of the month.
midnight rambler
25th September 2019, 03:42 PM
It is because a new government was put in place in Ukraine that intends to drain the Ukraine swamp the way Trump wanted to drain America's swamp
Who believes this? lol
This is meet new boss, same as old boss.
So the statement is not far off. Both are zionist puppets or puppeteers as in Ukraine's case. And the new swamp will be worse than the old swamp.
trump has the same zionist masters. And Ukraine is led by a jew. A saviour jew who will drain the swamp.
This is comedy here. But go along and support your zionist flavor of the month.
How come you refuse to respond to my assertions about Andrew Yang being a fucking gun-grabbing Communist recruiting rubes into the US citizen/Free Shit Army and the only way anyone can collect this so-called Universal Basic Income* is to be up to date in filing 1040s?
*define the word 'income'
Bigjon
25th September 2019, 04:11 PM
Geo Carlin: It's a club and you aint in it.
brosil
26th September 2019, 05:12 AM
I think he's right about Crowdstrike. The talking heads are avoiding talking about it to the best of their ability.
EE_
26th September 2019, 09:58 AM
THE TIDE TURNS: Democrats FREAK OUT After Transcript Reveals POTUS Trump Is on Crowdstrike Trail — He’s Going After Origins of Russia Hoax!
Jim Hoft by Jim Hoft September 26, 2019 228 Comments
On Wednesday the Trump Administration released the White House transcript of President Trump’s call with President Zelensky of Ukraine.
In the transcript released today President Zelensky brought up Rudy Giuliani and his investigations with President Trump.
It was Zelensky who brought up the Biden investigation and NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP!
President Trump then asked Zelensky to look into the 2016 election including information on Crowdstrike.
The President did not ask President Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden as was widely reported by the lying mainstream media.
The transcript sent shock waves through the Democrat Deep State.
The transcript revealed President Trump is going after the origins of the Trump-Russia witch hunt.
Trump is going after the Deep State — Trump said he was going to clean the swamp and he meant it.
Foreign Policy expert Tony Shaffer says this is what the left is most worried about.
Rush Limbaugh focused on this bombshell from the transcript on his Wednesday show.
Now, just a little bit more about CrowdStrike ’cause I have paid attention, there’s not a single — I haven’t seen a single report focus on CrowdStrike in this transcript. Now, I know why the Democrats are ignoring it. The Democrats are bent out of shape that Trump even knows about CrowdStrike. They think Trump’s an idiot. With Trump specifically zeroing in on CrowdStrike the Democrats have learned today, after reading that transcript, what Trump is really doing here.
Trump is soliciting assistance from allies all over the world to help Barr prove the scam run against him. That’s what’s going on. That’s what the Democrats have learned today with that word “CrowdStrike” being in the transcript. CrowdStrike, the founder of CrowdStrike is a Russian emigre who hates Putin with a purple passion. It seems to color CrowdStrike’s security work.
Prime example being when CrowdStrike claimed that the Russians had hacked the Ukraine artillery software during the time Russia was invading Ukraine. CrowdStrike claimed the Russian hack caused the Ukrainians to fire on their own troops, killing thousands of them. They were dead wrong about it! And that’s a massive thing to be wrong about. Because the only problem was Ukraine said there was no such hack and no such battle and there were no such casualties.
They said that CrowdStrike had made all of it up. And guess what? CrowdStrike withdrew its report and admitted that it was wrong. Now, this, whether it sounds like it or not, don’t doubt me, this is highly relevant to this entire Russian collusion story, which is why Trump was asking about it and why the Democrats don’t want the Ukrainians to reinvestigate it.
The reference to CrowdStrike, mark my words, is momentous in this transcript today. I know damn well the whistleblower didn’t tell the Democrats about that or they would have a different strategy laid out for this. Because another thing — don’t doubt me on this — what this really means, folks, is that Trump — he was asking for assistance on Biden, but it’s all related. What Trump actually was asking the president of Ukraine to do was to help the attorney general.
President Trump is going after the criminal deep state.
He’s going after the criminals who lied and put America through the Trump-Russia witch hunt.
President Trump is going to clean the swamp.
This has Democrats scared to death.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/the-tied-turns-democrats-freak-out-after-transcript-reveals-potus-trump-is-on-crowdstrike-trail-hes-going-after-origins-of-russia-hoax/
Amanda
26th September 2019, 10:20 AM
fwiw, people are saying the "whistleblower" (Not!!) is Susan Gordon, who was supposedly passed over for the DNI position (she was in the deputy position when Coats was director). Also heard she's another Israel firster jew.
EE_
26th September 2019, 10:24 AM
'He Had Help': Former CIA, NSC Official Questions 'Too Convenient' And 'Too Perfect' Whistleblower Report
by Tyler Durden
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 11:56
In light of Thursday's public release of a 'whistleblower' complaint, who was "not a witness to most of hte events described" in their allegation that President Trump abused his office to request that Ukraine investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's dealings in the country, former CIA analyst and National Security Council (NSC) official Fred Fleitz has provided his take on the whole thing via Twitter.
Notably, Fleitz - CEO of the Center for Security Policy - points out that "The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help," adding "I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?"
Fleitz then writes that "that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower," adding "Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?"
Read the thread below (emphasis ours):
1/ As a former CIA analyst and former NSC official who edited transcripts of POTUS phone calls with foreign leaders, here are my thoughts on the whistleblower complaint which was just released. . . intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/…
2/ This is not an intelligence matter. It is a policy matter and a complaint about differences over policy. Presidential phone calls are not an intelligence concern. The fact that IC officers transcribe these calls does not give the IC IG jusrisdiction over these calls.
3/ It appears that rules restricting access and knowledge of these sensitive calls was breached. This official was not on this call, not on the approved dissem list and should not have been briefed on the call.
.3/ The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help. I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?
.4/ It is therefore important that Congress find out where this complaint came from. What did House and Senate intel committee dem members and staff know about it and when? Did they help orchestrate this complaint?
5/ My view is that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower. Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?
6/ This complaint will further damage IC relations with the White House for many years to come because IC officers appear to be politicizing presidential phone calls with foreign officials and their access to the president and his activities in the White House.
7/ Worst of all, this IC officer -- and probably others -- have blatantly crossed the line into policy. This violates a core responsibility of IC officers is to inform, but not make policy.
8/ This is such a grevious violation of trust between the IC and the White House that it would not surprise me if IC officers are barred from all access to POTUS phone calls with foreign officials.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/he-had-help-former-cia-nsc-official-questions-too-convenient-and-too-perfect
keehah
26th September 2019, 10:53 AM
Based appearance by Rudy Giuliani here, it really exposes the globalist corporate shill Fredo.
CNN Chris Cuomo 9/19/2019: Chris Cuomo 0ne-on-One with Rudy Giuliani - Chris Cuomo CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skBlBMmbSR8
Amanda
26th September 2019, 11:37 AM
You take on the intelligence community? They have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you" - Chuck Schumer.
NYTimes 'Outs' Ukraine-Call "Whistleblower" As CIA Officer
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nytimes-outs-ukraine-call-whistleblower-cia-officer
Soon after the Ukraine-gate "whistleblower" complaint was made public, questions about the source's knowledge and background began to rise, as one former CIA officer noted (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/he-had-help-former-cia-nsc-official-questions-too-convenient-and-too-perfect) very specifically:
The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help. I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?
My view is that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower. Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?
This complaint will further damage IC relations with the White House for many years to come because IC officers appear to be politicizing presidential phone calls with foreign officials and their access to the president and his activities in the White House.
Worst of all, this IC officer -- and probably others -- have blatantly crossed the line into policy.
And sure enough, if The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html) is to be believed, the complainant is a C.I.A. officer who was detailed to work at the White House at one point, according to three people familiar with his identity.
The man has since returned to the C.I.A., the people said.
We wonder how many more ways they have left. The NYTimes, (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html) of course, puts its spin on the news, claiming that the whistle-blower's expertise will likely add to lawmakers' confidence about the merits of his complaint.
However, given the current state of affairs, we suspect it will simply remind a deeply divided nation of the bias and prejudice that exists behind the President's back.
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As Chuck Schumer once warned Trump:
"Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community - they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you... So, even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."
Amanda
26th September 2019, 03:56 PM
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Amanda
26th September 2019, 03:59 PM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/26/gossip-blower-is-male-cia-operative-formerly-part-of-white-house-nsc/
“Gossip-blower” is Male CIA Operative Formerly Part of White House NSC… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/26/gossip-blower-is-male-cia-operative-formerly-part-of-white-house-nsc/) Posted on September 26, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/26/gossip-blower-is-male-cia-operative-formerly-part-of-white-house-nsc/) by sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
Details are beginning to emerge about the deep state political operative within the intelligence apparatus who wrote a ‘whistleblower’ complaint based on second-hand information he heard on the intelligence grapevine about President Trump.
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/brennan-and-mystery-spy.jpg?w=308&h=135 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/brennan-and-mystery-spy.jpg)According to the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html) the complaint derives from a male who was a former CIA operative on assignment within National Security Council (NSC), who left the White House and returned to the CIA:
(emphasis mine)
WASHINGTON (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html) — The whistle-blower who revealed (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistleblower-complaint-released.html?module=inline) that President Trump sought foreign help for his re-election and that the White House sought to cover it up is a C.I.A. officer who was detailed to work at the White House at one point, according to three people familiar with his identity.
The man has since returned to the C.I.A., the people said. Little else is known about him. His complaint (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html?module=inline) made public Thursday suggested he was an analyst by training and made clear he was steeped in details of American foreign policy toward Europe, demonstrating a sophisticated understanding of Ukrainian politics and at least some knowledge of the law. (more (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html))
The outlined profile, in combination with the political motive, have led many people to begin searching through: (1) current CIA operatives; (2) who come from the era of Brennan; and (3) were previously assigned to the White House (NSC); and (4) then removed; and (5) then returned to the CIA. That profile has led to suspicions of identity.
A strong possibility (https://twitter.com/CasualSemi/status/1177301812061380608) for the identity, a person who checks all the boxes of known attributes, follows a trail to Michael Barry:
JULY 2018 (https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397553-top-intel-official-leaving-national-security-council-report) – A top intelligence official at the National Security Council (NSC) is reportedly leaving the White House.
Michael Barry, senior NSC director for intelligence programs, is leaving the council as part of national security adviser John Bolton’s major staffing overhaul, two government officials told the Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/national-security-councils-intelligence-chief-is-leaving-as-john-bolton-cleans-house?via=twitter_page).
One source quoted in the report Tuesday said that Barry is leaving on “very good terms,” but that his departure will be a “tough loss.” Barry is reportedly returning to the CIA, where he served before joining the NSC. (link (https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397553-top-intel-official-leaving-national-security-council-report))
An October 2017 Politico article outlines Barry as he replaced Ezra Cohen Watnick [SEE HERE (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/06/national-security-council-michael-barry-trump-243548)]. CIA operative Michael Barry was put in place by National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster: “Michael Barry, became the National Security Council’s chief intelligence officer in September [2017] and is the primary liaison between the NSC, which coordinates US national security policy, and the CIA.” [LINK (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/aramroston/new-nsc-intel-chief-once-worked-on-a-cia-assassination)] “Michael Barry once worked on a CIA assassination program.”
Michael Barry was later removed by John Bolton [2018] after Bolton became National Security Advisor. [SEE HERE (https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397553-top-intel-official-leaving-national-security-council-report)] “Barry’s departure is on “very good terms,” one source said, but it will be a “tough loss for the NSC.” According to the source, Barry is returning to the Central Intelligence Agency, where he served before joining the NSC staff. His detail from CIA to the NSC is coming up, The Daily Beast has learned” [2018 LINK (https://www.thedailybeast.com/national-security-councils-intelligence-chief-is-leaving-as-john-bolton-cleans-house?via=twitter_page)]
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Though it is speculation, the known profile fits this specific individual. Given the ‘whistleblower’ hired a well-known partisan political lawyer to represent his current accusations; and given the political nature of his claims with no direct evidence to support them; the motive of the deep state also matches the profile of Michael Barry (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-barry-599b7013b/).
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/spygate-crossfire-hurricane-coup-plot-.jpg?w=640 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/spygate-crossfire-hurricane-coup-plot-.jpg)https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/trump-convo-with-zelenskyy.jpg?w=586&h=285 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/trump-convo-with-zelenskyy.jpg)
Today in a court filing:
Amanda
26th September 2019, 04:24 PM
The Terrorists Among US – The Coup Against the Presidency
https://thesaker.is/the-terrorists-among-us-the-coup-against-the-presidency/ (https://thesaker.is/the-terrorists-among-us-the-coup-against-the-presidency/)
monty
26th September 2019, 07:05 PM
Crowdsource the Truth with investigative reporter Lee Stranahan and former CIA whistleblower Kevin Shipp
http://youtu.be/AM-T4GKeQf4
https://youtu.be/AM-T4GKeQf4
monty
27th September 2019, 06:53 AM
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Victor Pinchuk, the Clintons & Endless Connectionshttps://themarketswork.com/2018/03/11/victor-pinchuk-the-clintons-endless-connections/
Victor Pinchuk, the Clintons & Endless Connections
Jeff Carlson, CFA
I wrote on the role of Alexandra Chalupa – a Ukrainian-American DNC operative – who appears at the center of the DNC’s construction of information used in the Steele Dossier.
The role of former Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland in disseminating the Dossier – along with her involvement in shaping Ukraine – was also discussed.
The name Victor Pinchuk was mentioned.
Victor Pinchuk is a Ukrainian billionaire.
He is the founder of Interpipe, a steel pipe manufacturer. He also owns Credit Dnipro Bank, some ferroalloy plants and a media empire.
He is married to Elena Pinchuk, the daughter of former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma.
Pinchuk’s been accused of profiting immensely from the purchase of state-owned assets at severely below-market prices through political favoritism.
Pinchuk used his media empire to deflect blame from his father-in-law, Kuchma, for the September 16, 2000 murder of journalist Georgiy Gongadze. Kuchma was never charged but is widely believed to have ordered the murder. A series of recordings would seem to back up this assertion.
On April 4 through April 12 2016, Ukrainian Parliamentarian Olga Bielkov had four meetings – with Samuel Charap (International Institute for Strategic Studies), Liz Zentos (National Security Council), Michael Kimmage (State Dept) and David Kramer (McCain Institute).
Doug Schoen filed FARA documents showing that he was paid $40,000 a month by Victor Pinchuk (page 5) – in part to arrange these meetings.
Schoen attempted to arrange another 72 meetings with Congressmen and media (page 10). It is unknown how many meetings took place.
Schoen has worked for both Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Schoen helped Pinchuk establish ties with the Clinton Foundation. The Wall Street Journal reported how Schoen connected Pinchuk with senior Clinton State Department staffers in order to pressure former Ukrainian President Yanukovych to release Yulia Tymoshenko – a political rival of Yanukovych – from jail.
The relationship between Pinchuk and the Clintons continued.
From the Kyiv Post:
In 2013, Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk welcomed current U.S. Democratic Party presidential nominee Hillary Clinton onto the stage at his Yalta European Strategy, an annual conference he funds to promote Ukraine’s European integration and strategy, calling her: “a real megastar.”
Clinton and her husband Bill, the 42nd U.S. president, have been paid speakers at the annual YES and other Pinchuk events. They describe themselves as friends of Pinchuk, who is known internationally as a businessman and philanthropist.
To date, Pinchuk’s charitable foundation has given $125 million to various causes, according to his spokespeople.
Although exact numbers are not clear, reports filed by the Clinton Foundation indicate that as much as $25 million of Pinchuk’s “charitable donations” went to the Clinton organization.
From a New York Times article:
Victor Pinchuk, a steel magnate whose father-in-law, Leonid Kuchma, was president of Ukraine from 1994 to 2005, has directed between $10 million and $25 million to the foundation. He has lent his private plane to the Clintons and traveled to Los Angeles in 2011 to attend Mr. Clinton’s star-studded 65th birthday celebration.
Later, the Clintons would try to distance themselves from Pinchuk.
From a Washington Examiner article:
Emails made public Tuesday show a Ukrainian businessman and major Clinton Foundation donor was invited to Hillary Clinton’s home during the final year of her diplomatic tenure, despite her spokesman’s insistence in 2014 that the donor never crossed paths with Clinton while she served as secretary of state.
Amid scrutiny of Clinton’s ties to Pinchuk in 2014, the Democratic nominee’s spokesman, Nick Merrill, said Pinchuk had never met with Clinton during that time. He told the New York Times that, “from Jan. 21, 2009, to Feb. 1, 2013,” the Ukrainian businessman “was never on her schedule.”
Pinchuk, who has given up to $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, appeared on the guest list that was sent between Dennis Cheng, an executive at the foundation, and Huma Abedin, then Clinton’s deputy chief of staff at the State Department, ahead of a June 2012 dinner. Abedin noted in a subsequent email that the gathering would be hosted in Clinton’s home.
Pinchuk’s dinner invitation was exposed in a series of emails obtained by Citizens United.
There has been a repeated pattern of denial between the Clintons and their major donors. See: A Uranium One Primer – Clinton, Giustra & Kazakhstan’s Uranium Assets.
More from the article:
Melanne Verveer, a senior Ukrainian-American official at the State Department, often acted as a go-between for Clinton and Pinchuk. Verveer conveyed Pinchuk’s best wishes to the secretary of state in Feb. 2010 after meeting with him in Ukraine.
After speaking with Pinchuk in Sept. 2011, Verveer informed Clinton that the businessman had been asked by Viktor Yanukovych, then the president of Ukraine, to relay to her some of his diplomatic interests in deepening ties to the rest of Europe.
The intersection of Pinchuk’s advocacy for Yanukovych with Clinton’s State Department is noteworthy because Paul Manafort, former campaign manager for Donald Trump, was felled by his connections to Yanukovych. Manafort resigned from the Trump campaign last week.
Hacked Podesta emails released via Wikileaks showed ongoing contact between Pinchuk and the Clintons. From a March 30, 2015 email:
Victor Pinchuk is relentlessly following up (including this morning) about a meeting with WJC in London or anywhere in Europe. Ideally he wants to bring together a few western leaders to show support for Ukraine, with WJC probably their most important participant.
I sense this is so important because Pinchuk is under Putin’s heel right now, feeling a great degree of pressure and pain for his many years of nurturing stronger ties with the West.
In addition to being a Clinton Foundation donor, Pinchuk is also on the International Advisory Board of the Atlantic Counsel – an NATO-aligned American think tank specializing in the field of international affairs.
Pinchuk’s fellow Advisory Board members are industry leaders and former heads of state.
Their Board of Directors list is equally – if not more – impressive.
The Atlantic Counsel has been historically active in Ukraine through their Ukraine in Europe Initiative. More recently, on January 19, 2017, the Atlantic Counsel announced a partnership with Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Group.
Hunter Biden, former VP Joe Biden’s son, sits on Burisma’s board.
Biden was placed on Burisma’s board after Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt held a phone conversation regarding installation of Arseniy Yatsenyuk in place of then-President Yanukovych. Need of support from VP Biden was noted (more here):
On or before February 4 2014 – Call between Pyatt and Nuland discussing removal of Yanukovych and installation of Yatsenyuk.
February 22, 2014 – Yanukovych was removed as President of Ukraine.
February 27 2014 – Yatsenyuk was installed as Prime Minister of Ukraine. Yatsenyuk would resign in April 2016 amidst corruption accusations.
April 18 2014 – Hunter Biden was appointed to the Board of Directors for Burisma – one of the largest natural gas companies in Ukraine.
April 22 2014 – VP Biden travels to Ukraine and offers support and $50 million in aid for Yatsenyuk’s shaky new government.
The Atlantic Council, along with the Brookings Institute and the Center for Strategic and International Studies, were the subject of an unflattering portrayal in a New York Times article, Foreign Powers Buy Influence at Think Tanks:
More than a dozen prominent Washington research groups have received tens of millions of dollars from foreign governments in recent years while pushing United States government officials to adopt policies that often reflect the donors’ priorities, an investigation by The New York Times has found.
The think tanks do not disclose the terms of the agreements they have reached with foreign governments. And they have not registered with the United States government as representatives of the donor countries, an omission that appears, in some cases, to be a violation of federal law.
As a result, policy makers who rely on think tanks are often unaware of the role of foreign governments in funding the research.
The arrangements involve Washington’s most influential think tanks, including the Brookings Institution, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and the Atlantic Council.
Each is a major recipient of overseas funds, producing policy papers, hosting forums and organizing private briefings for senior United States government officials that typically align with the foreign governments’ agendas.
Some interesting connections run through the Atlantic Council.
Dimitry Alperovich – the CEO of Crowdstrike that “investigated” the hacking of the DNC’s servers is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic. The FBI was refused access to independently examine the DNC servers. Interestingly, Alperovich’s bio appears to have been disabled.
The Crowdstrike findings have been repeatedly called into questioned:
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack – forensics indicate that DNC emails were copied by an insider via USB and not hacked via external actors.
Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence – DNC data was copied onto a storage device at a speed that far exceeds an Internet capability for a remote hack. Forensics show that the copying was performed on the East coast of the U.S.
New Questions Over Claim Russia Hacked the Election – Cybersecurity experts who were first to conclude that Putin hacked presidential election abandon some of their claims against Russia – and refuse to co-operate with Congress.
James Clapper – Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, serves on the Atlantic Council’s International Advisory Board. Clapper was the architect of the report on Russian Election Interference – Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent U.S. Elections.
I encourage you to read the report. I think you’ll find it surprisingly lacking in detail – highly generalized with very little in the way of substance.
The report was technically created by a joint effort between the CIA (former Director John Brennan), FBI (former Director James Comey) and the NSA (current Director Mike Rogers) – and assembled by the DNI (former Director James Clapper).
The joint report contains one significant caveat:
CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has only moderate confidence.
Actually, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers stated in Senate hearing testimony that his confidence did not reach even this threshold:
I wouldn’t call it a discrepancy, I’d call it an honest difference of opinion between three different organizations and in the end I made that call.…It didn’t have the same level of sourcing and the same level of multiple sources.
In essence, the DNI’s report was constructed by just three men – former DNI Director Clapper, former CIA Director Brennan and former FBI Director Comey.
This report was then used to push the entire Russian Narrative.
It’s appearing increasingly likely that Clapper either used or affirmed some data from the Steele Dossier in the IC Assessment Report.
Evelyn Farkas – who famously disclosed the plan to disseminate information gathered on President Trump, is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic. Farkas served as Obama’s Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia.
The Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump staff dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence.
Irena Chalupa – does not appear to be related to Alexandra Chalupa (I’ve been unable to confirm and have seen conflicting reports) – is a Non-Resident Fellow at Atlantic. Irena Chalupa is also a senior correspondent at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. She is a former Director of the Ukrainian National Information Service (UNIS) – the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America’s Washington public affairs bureau.
Irena Chalupa is also a member of StopFake.org – Struggle Against Fake Information About Events In Ukraine.
Irena Chalupa’s ideological interests in Ukraine are aligned directly with those of Alexandra Chalupa.
Evelyn Farkas and Irena Chalupa worked together in 2014 on the Atlantic Council’s Coordinating on Ukraine.
Oleg Deripensky, a Russian oligarch once linked to Paul Manafort, published an Op-Ed in which he made the claim that George Soros was helping fund Fusion GPS.
He also highlighted a conversation between Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Victoria Nuland at the Munich Security Conference in February 2018.
I highlighted Nuland’s role in structuring the Ukrainian government in 2014.
I don’t know about the Soros connection but I did find the Whitehouse-Nuland conversation (Video is queued):
WHITEHOUSE: Even in an area [Climate Change] where the administration has carved out perhaps the most irresponsible position it could, on an issue of global significance, nevertheless you can’t really resist the pressure of fact and science – and I guess what the Breitbart crowd would call the Deep State – but what many of us would call knowledgeable professionals who’ve given their lives to these things and actually know what they’re talking about…
…So even on that worst of all issues there’s still a hope for continuity – at least in the Deep State.
Note John Kerry smiling and applauding in the crowd.
NULAND: Well colleagues, you’ve now heard our bi-partisan, bicameral panel of Deep State crowd loyalists give broad reassurance about continuity in U.S. leadership and in U.S. policy overall.
For the record, Sheldon Whitehouse is a blithering idiot.
Continue watching the video a moment longer to see Ex-Representative Jane Harman pay homage to John McCain:
HARMAN: His voice, his presence, was instrumental in training generations of members of the U.S. Congress on foreign policy issues.
NULAND: And the U.S. State Department…
HARMAN: And the U.S. State Department too. He had his favorites, you being one Victoria.
I doubt John McCain has ever been right – in either policy or ideology. But he did leave quite an unfortunate influence.
These people all think the same. And they all think they know better than anyone else.
Despite a tedious repetition of corruption and policy failures.
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Jewboo
27th September 2019, 07:19 AM
Victor Pinchuk, the Clintons & Endless Connections
Jeff Carlson, CFA
I wrote on the role of Alexandra Chalupa – a Ukrainian-American DNC operative – who appears at the center of the DNC’s construction of information used in the Steele Dossier.
The role of former Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland in disseminating the Dossier – along with her involvement in shaping Ukraine – was also discussed.
The name Victor Pinchuk was mentioned.
Victor Pinchuk is a Ukrainian billionaire.
He is the founder of Interpipe, a steel pipe manufacturer. He also owns Credit Dnipro Bank, some ferroalloy plants and a media empire.
He is married to Elena Pinchuk, the daughter of former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma.
Pinchuk’s been accused of profiting immensely from the purchase of state-owned assets at severely below-market prices through political favoritism.
Pinchuk used his media empire to deflect blame from his father-in-law, Kuchma, for the September 16, 2000 murder of journalist Georgiy Gongadze. Kuchma was never charged but is widely believed to have ordered the murder. A series of recordings would seem to back up this assertion.
On April 4 through April 12 2016, Ukrainian Parliamentarian Olga Bielkov had four meetings – with Samuel Charap (International Institute for Strategic Studies), Liz Zentos (National Security Council), Michael Kimmage (State Dept) and David Kramer (McCain Institute).
Doug Schoen filed FARA documents showing that he was paid $40,000 a month by Victor Pinchuk (page 5) – in part to arrange these meetings.
Schoen attempted to arrange another 72 meetings with Congressmen and media (page 10). It is unknown how many meetings took place.
Schoen has worked for both Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Schoen helped Pinchuk establish ties with the Clinton Foundation. The Wall Street Journal reported how Schoen connected Pinchuk with senior Clinton State Department staffers in order to pressure former Ukrainian President Yanukovych to release Yulia Tymoshenko – a political rival of Yanukovych – from jail.
The relationship between Pinchuk and the Clintons continued.
From the Kyiv Post:
In 2013, Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk welcomed current U.S. Democratic Party presidential nominee Hillary Clinton onto the stage at his Yalta European Strategy, an annual conference he funds to promote Ukraine’s European integration and strategy, calling her: “a real megastar.”
Clinton and her husband Bill, the 42nd U.S. president, have been paid speakers at the annual YES and other Pinchuk events. They describe themselves as friends of Pinchuk, who is known internationally as a businessman and philanthropist.
To date, Pinchuk’s charitable foundation has given $125 million to various causes, according to his spokespeople.
Although exact numbers are not clear, reports filed by the Clinton Foundation indicate that as much as $25 million of Pinchuk’s “charitable donations” went to the Clinton organization.
From a New York Times article:
Victor Pinchuk, a steel magnate whose father-in-law, Leonid Kuchma, was president of Ukraine from 1994 to 2005, has directed between $10 million and $25 million to the foundation. He has lent his private plane to the Clintons and traveled to Los Angeles in 2011 to attend Mr. Clinton’s star-studded 65th birthday celebration.
Later, the Clintons would try to distance themselves from Pinchuk.
From a Washington Examiner article:
Emails made public Tuesday show a Ukrainian businessman and major Clinton Foundation donor was invited to Hillary Clinton’s home during the final year of her diplomatic tenure, despite her spokesman’s insistence in 2014 that the donor never crossed paths with Clinton while she served as secretary of state.
Amid scrutiny of Clinton’s ties to Pinchuk in 2014, the Democratic nominee’s spokesman, Nick Merrill, said Pinchuk had never met with Clinton during that time. He told the New York Times that, “from Jan. 21, 2009, to Feb. 1, 2013,” the Ukrainian businessman “was never on her schedule.”
Pinchuk, who has given up to $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, appeared on the guest list that was sent between Dennis Cheng, an executive at the foundation, and Huma Abedin, then Clinton’s deputy chief of staff at the State Department, ahead of a June 2012 dinner. Abedin noted in a subsequent email that the gathering would be hosted in Clinton’s home.
Pinchuk’s dinner invitation was exposed in a series of emails obtained by Citizens United.
There has been a repeated pattern of denial between the Clintons and their major donors. See: A Uranium One Primer – Clinton, Giustra & Kazakhstan’s Uranium Assets.
More from the article:
Melanne Verveer, a senior Ukrainian-American official at the State Department, often acted as a go-between for Clinton and Pinchuk. Verveer conveyed Pinchuk’s best wishes to the secretary of state in Feb. 2010 after meeting with him in Ukraine.
After speaking with Pinchuk in Sept. 2011, Verveer informed Clinton that the businessman had been asked by Viktor Yanukovych, then the president of Ukraine, to relay to her some of his diplomatic interests in deepening ties to the rest of Europe.
The intersection of Pinchuk’s advocacy for Yanukovych with Clinton’s State Department is noteworthy because Paul Manafort, former campaign manager for Donald Trump, was felled by his connections to Yanukovych. Manafort resigned from the Trump campaign last week.
Hacked Podesta emails released via Wikileaks showed ongoing contact between Pinchuk and the Clintons. From a March 30, 2015 email:
Victor Pinchuk is relentlessly following up (including this morning) about a meeting with WJC in London or anywhere in Europe. Ideally he wants to bring together a few western leaders to show support for Ukraine, with WJC probably their most important participant.
I sense this is so important because Pinchuk is under Putin’s heel right now, feeling a great degree of pressure and pain for his many years of nurturing stronger ties with the West.
In addition to being a Clinton Foundation donor, Pinchuk is also on the International Advisory Board of the Atlantic Counsel – an NATO-aligned American think tank specializing in the field of international affairs.
Pinchuk’s fellow Advisory Board members are industry leaders and former heads of state.
Their Board of Directors list is equally – if not more – impressive.
The Atlantic Counsel has been historically active in Ukraine through their Ukraine in Europe Initiative. More recently, on January 19, 2017, the Atlantic Counsel announced a partnership with Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Group.
Hunter Biden, former VP Joe Biden’s son, sits on Burisma’s board.
Biden was placed on Burisma’s board after Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt held a phone conversation regarding installation of Arseniy Yatsenyuk in place of then-President Yanukovych. Need of support from VP Biden was noted (more here):
On or before February 4 2014 – Call between Pyatt and Nuland discussing removal of Yanukovych and installation of Yatsenyuk.
February 22, 2014 – Yanukovych was removed as President of Ukraine.
February 27 2014 – Yatsenyuk was installed as Prime Minister of Ukraine. Yatsenyuk would resign in April 2016 amidst corruption accusations.
April 18 2014 – Hunter Biden was appointed to the Board of Directors for Burisma – one of the largest natural gas companies in Ukraine.
April 22 2014 – VP Biden travels to Ukraine and offers support and $50 million in aid for Yatsenyuk’s shaky new government.
The Atlantic Council, along with the Brookings Institute and the Center for Strategic and International Studies, were the subject of an unflattering portrayal in a New York Times article, Foreign Powers Buy Influence at Think Tanks:
More than a dozen prominent Washington research groups have received tens of millions of dollars from foreign governments in recent years while pushing United States government officials to adopt policies that often reflect the donors’ priorities, an investigation by The New York Times has found.
The think tanks do not disclose the terms of the agreements they have reached with foreign governments. And they have not registered with the United States government as representatives of the donor countries, an omission that appears, in some cases, to be a violation of federal law.
As a result, policy makers who rely on think tanks are often unaware of the role of foreign governments in funding the research.
The arrangements involve Washington’s most influential think tanks, including the Brookings Institution, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and the Atlantic Council.
Each is a major recipient of overseas funds, producing policy papers, hosting forums and organizing private briefings for senior United States government officials that typically align with the foreign governments’ agendas.
Some interesting connections run through the Atlantic Council.
Dimitry Alperovich – the CEO of Crowdstrike that “investigated” the hacking of the DNC’s servers is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic. The FBI was refused access to independently examine the DNC servers. Interestingly, Alperovich’s bio appears to have been disabled.
The Crowdstrike findings have been repeatedly called into questioned:
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack – forensics indicate that DNC emails were copied by an insider via USB and not hacked via external actors.
Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence – DNC data was copied onto a storage device at a speed that far exceeds an Internet capability for a remote hack. Forensics show that the copying was performed on the East coast of the U.S.
New Questions Over Claim Russia Hacked the Election – Cybersecurity experts who were first to conclude that Putin hacked presidential election abandon some of their claims against Russia – and refuse to co-operate with Congress.
James Clapper – Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, serves on the Atlantic Council’s International Advisory Board. Clapper was the architect of the report on Russian Election Interference – Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent U.S. Elections.
I encourage you to read the report. I think you’ll find it surprisingly lacking in detail – highly generalized with very little in the way of substance.
The report was technically created by a joint effort between the CIA (former Director John Brennan), FBI (former Director James Comey) and the NSA (current Director Mike Rogers) – and assembled by the DNI (former Director James Clapper).
The joint report contains one significant caveat:
CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has only moderate confidence.
Actually, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers stated in Senate hearing testimony that his confidence did not reach even this threshold:
I wouldn’t call it a discrepancy, I’d call it an honest difference of opinion between three different organizations and in the end I made that call.…It didn’t have the same level of sourcing and the same level of multiple sources.
In essence, the DNI’s report was constructed by just three men – former DNI Director Clapper, former CIA Director Brennan and former FBI Director Comey.
This report was then used to push the entire Russian Narrative.
It’s appearing increasingly likely that Clapper either used or affirmed some data from the Steele Dossier in the IC Assessment Report.
Evelyn Farkas – who famously disclosed the plan to disseminate information gathered on President Trump, is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic. Farkas served as Obama’s Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia.
The Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump staff dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence.
Irena Chalupa – does not appear to be related to Alexandra Chalupa (I’ve been unable to confirm and have seen conflicting reports) – is a Non-Resident Fellow at Atlantic. Irena Chalupa is also a senior correspondent at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. She is a former Director of the Ukrainian National Information Service (UNIS) – the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America’s Washington public affairs bureau.
Irena Chalupa is also a member of StopFake.org – Struggle Against Fake Information About Events In Ukraine.
Irena Chalupa’s ideological interests in Ukraine are aligned directly with those of Alexandra Chalupa.
Evelyn Farkas and Irena Chalupa worked together in 2014 on the Atlantic Council’s Coordinating on Ukraine.
Oleg Deripensky, a Russian oligarch once linked to Paul Manafort, published an Op-Ed in which he made the claim that George Soros was helping fund Fusion GPS.
He also highlighted a conversation between Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Victoria Nuland at the Munich Security Conference in February 2018.
I highlighted Nuland’s role in structuring the Ukrainian government in 2014.
I don’t know about the Soros connection but I did find the Whitehouse-Nuland conversation (Video is queued):
WHITEHOUSE: Even in an area [Climate Change] where the administration has carved out perhaps the most irresponsible position it could, on an issue of global significance, nevertheless you can’t really resist the pressure of fact and science – and I guess what the Breitbart crowd would call the Deep State – but what many of us would call knowledgeable professionals who’ve given their lives to these things and actually know what they’re talking about…
…So even on that worst of all issues there’s still a hope for continuity – at least in the Deep State.
Note John Kerry smiling and applauding in the crowd.
NULAND: Well colleagues, you’ve now heard our bi-partisan, bicameral panel of Deep State crowd loyalists give broad reassurance about continuity in U.S. leadership and in U.S. policy overall.
For the record, Sheldon Whitehouse is a blithering idiot.
Continue watching the video a moment longer to see Ex-Representative Jane Harman pay homage to John McCain:
HARMAN: His voice, his presence, was instrumental in training generations of members of the U.S. Congress on foreign policy issues.
NULAND: And the U.S. State Department…
HARMAN: And the U.S. State Department too. He had his favorites, you being one Victoria.
I doubt John McCain has ever been right – in either policy or ideology. But he did leave quite an unfortunate influence.
These people all think the same. And they all think they know better than anyone else.
Despite a tedious repetition of corruption and policy failures.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Q71k6fmts
Monty:
You just posted above a pithy summary of the facts and EVIDENCE needed to jail Clinton and her fellow criminals.
Astonishing how few Americans even know about it.
At the end of the day........................................Trump himself never actually did a thing as President to jail the Clintons (https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/GTY_trump_wedding_clintons_jef_150806_16x9_992.jpg ) or drain the swamp.
:mad:
monty
27th September 2019, 07:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Q71k6fmts
Monty:
You just posted above a pithy summary of the facts and EVIDENCE needed to jail Clinton and her fellow criminals.
Astonishing how few Americans even know about it.
At the end of the day........................................Trump himself never actually did a thing as President to jail the Clintons (https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/GTY_trump_wedding_clintons_jef_150806_16x9_992.jpg ) or drain the swamp.
:mad:
Amanda gets the credit, she posted the link, which after reading, I decided it was too damaging not to be posted.
monty
27th September 2019, 08:04 AM
What Isn't Mentioned About the Trump-Ukraine 'Scandal': The Routine Corruption of US Foreign Policy
The impeachment offensive against Donald Trump is another symptom of a partisan disease that ignores an even greater malignancy, writes Joe Lauria.
By Joe Lauria (https://consortiumnews.com/tag/joe-lauria/)
Special to Consortium News
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The most crucial aspects of the Trump-Ukraine “scandal,” which has led to impeachment proceedings against Donald Trump, are not being told, even by Republicans.
Trump was very likely motivated by politics if he indeed withheld military aid to Ukraine in exchange for Kiev launching an investigation into Democratic presidential frontrunner Joe Biden, though the transcript (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html) of the call released by the White House between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelinsky does not make certain such a quid-pro-quo.
But what’s not being talked about in the mainstream is the context of this story, which shows that, politics aside, Biden should indeed be investigated in both Ukraine and in the United States.
We know from the leaked, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k&fbclid=IwAR39__0hcipTiNxjh6Gs2mnhguw52WUS1sgr1TN5o 1bnqthUHIlSfM6a0tc) early 2014 telephone conversation between Victoria Nuland, then assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, and Geoffrey Pyatt, then U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, that then Vice President Biden played a role in “midwifing” the U.S.-backed overthrow of an elected Ukrainian government soon after that conversation.
That’s the biggest crime in this story that isn’t being told. The illegal overthrow of a sovereign government.
As booty from the coup, the sitting vice president’s son, Hunter Biden, soon got a seat on the board of Ukraine’s biggest gas producer, Burisma Holdings. This can only be seen as a transparently neocolonial maneuver to take over a country and install one’s own people. But Biden’s son wasn’t the only one.
https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/14363337493_38562f09d5_b-400x266.jpg (https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/14363337493_38562f09d5_b.jpg)Left to right: Kerry, post-coup president Petro Poroshenko, Pyatt and Nuland, June 2014. (State Dept.)
A family friend of then Secretary of State John Kerry also joined Burisma’s board. U.S. agricultural giant Monsanto got a Ukrainian contract (https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/16/corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch/) soon after the overthrow. And the first, post-coup Ukrainian finance minister was an American citizen (https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/05/ukraines-made-in-usa-finance-minister/), a former State Department official, who was given Ukrainian citizenship the day before she took up the post.
After a Ukrainian prosecutor began looking (https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story) into possible corruption at Burisma, Biden openly admitted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=UXA--dj2-CY) at a conference last year that as vice president he withheld a $1 billion credit line to Ukraine until the government fired the prosecutor. As Biden says himself, it took only six hours for it to happen.
Exactly what Biden boasted of doing is what the Democrats are now accusing Trump of doing, and it isn’t clear if Trump got what he wanted as Biden did.
Threats, Bribes and Blackmail
That leads to another major part of this story not being told: the routine way the U.S. government conducts foreign policy: with bribes, threats and blackmail.
Trump may have withheld military aid to seek a probe into Biden, but it is hypocritically being framed by Democrats as an abuse of power out of the ordinary. But it is very much ordinary.
Examples abound. The threat of withholding foreign aid was wielded against nations on the UN Security Council in 1991 when the U.S. sought authorization for the First Gulf War. Yemen had the temerity to vote against. A member of the U.S. delegation told (https://www.wrmea.org/010-march/united-nations-report-a-costly-vote-yemen-paid-a-high-price-for-1990-security-council-veto.html) Yemen’s ambassador: “That’s the most expensive vote you ever cast.” The U.S. then cut $70 million in foreign aid to the Middle East’s poorest nation, and Saudi Arabia repatriated about a million Yemeni workers.
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Katharine Gun
The same thing happened before the Second Gulf War in 2003, as revealed by whistleblower Katharine Gun (who will appear Friday night on CN Live! (https://consortiumnews.com/cn-live/)). Gun leaked an NSA memo that showed the U.S. sought help from its British counterpart in signals intelligence to spy on the missions of Security Council members to get “leverage” over them to influence their vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq.
In 2001 the U.S. threatened (https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/10/world/us-ties-military-aid-to-peacekeepers-immunity.html) the end of military and foreign aid if nations did not conclude bilateral agreements granting immunity to U.S. troops before the International Criminal Court.
More recently, the U.S. used its muscle against Ecuador, including dangling (https://www.mintpressnews.com/ecuadors-cooperation-bought-imf-loans-washington-waxes-optimistic-assange-extradition/255942/) a $10 billion IMF loan, in exchange for the expulsion of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange from its London embassy.
This is how the U.S. conducts “diplomacy.”
As former UN Secretary General Boutros Boutros Ghali wrote (https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/99/06/13/reviews/990613.13crosset.html):
“Coming from a developing country, I was trained extensively in international law and diplomacy and mistakenly assumed that the great powers, especially the United States, also trained their representatives in diplomacy and accepted the value of it. But the Roman Empire had no need for diplomacy. Nor does the United States. Diplomacy is perceived by an imperial power as a waste of time and prestige and a sign of weakness.”
This fundamental corruption of U.S. foreign policy, which includes overthrowing elected governments, is matched only by the corruption of a political system that exalts partisan political power above all else. Exposing this deep-seated and longstanding corruption should take precedence over scoring partisan scalps, whether Biden’s or Trump’s.
Joe Lauria is editor-in-chief of Consortium News and a former correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, Boston Globe, Sunday Times of London and numerous other newspapers. He can be reached at joelauria@consortiumnews.com and followed on Twitter @unjoe (https://twitter.com/unjoe) .
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From the comments:
Kiwiantz
September 27, 2019 at 08:51
Great article as usual Joe. Trumps just the current Don Coleone, Mob Boss that’s occupying the Whitehouse, just another stupid, two-bit Criminal, just like every previous POTUS before him? America has become a Banana Republic that’s without the Banana’s, run by Criminals hacks in charge of a Nation that’s vying for the title of the most corrupt Country on Earth, maybe it should it be renamed Crimerica? This pontificating, self righteous & hypocritical Country is run like a Mafiosi Crime Syndicate shaking down every other Nation on Earth for Oil & Natural resources, drunk on its waning power as a dying Empire of chaos & whose dangerous & reckless disregard for International Laws & blatant Foreign Policy abuses & War Crimes, is perhaps the greatest danger to Mankind, right up there with Climate Change? And the disgusting way the Ruling Elites in both Parties can hypocritically fawn over & support & protect this Whistle blower who dobbed in the Orange Headed Manchild & idiot savant, called Trump, hellbent on securing Trumps Impeachment but have treated heroes such as Edward Snowden & Julian Assange as Treasonous Traitors for exposing similar crimes committed by the US Mafiosi Country, defies belief & is disgustingly hypocritical? But I suppose you have to be the right kind of Whistleblower that can fit the corrupt narrative! America is rotting from the inside out, morally, spiritually & economically with it’s entire Financial System on the verge of economic collapse & no amount of Impeachment scullduggery, QE Money printing to infinity or Endless War creation is going to save the dying Empire of Chaos?
monty
27th September 2019, 08:07 AM
Book: “At the end of the day........................................Trump himself never actually did a thing as President to jail the Clintons (https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/GTY_trump_wedding_clintons_jef_150806_16x9_992.jpg ) or drain the swamp.
:mad:“
Business as usual. Don’t expect anything to change.
Amanda
27th September 2019, 09:14 AM
At the end of the day........................................Trump himself never actually did a thing as President to jail the Clintons (https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/GTY_trump_wedding_clintons_jef_150806_16x9_992.jpg ) or drain the swamp.
:mad:
Not defending Trump, but I just think the swamp is impossible to drain--the corruption is everywhere, it's like they're all in on it, everyone is getting a cut of the action. And even if Trump was 100% true in wanting to drain the swamp, there's just no way to do it when everyone else is compromised. Someone over at the treehouse commented that it's really McConnell who controls who Trump appoints as Attorney General or any other position--McConnell tells him who he can/cannot get approved. So the establishment GOP vouch for Barr, the deep state swamp rat who specializes in covering for the intell agencies, and now nothing is happening and everything is being slow-walked and stalled until they get him out of there, and then they can hide the evidence of their crimes forever. It seems like the jews have the whole system rigged and all the key positions are under control. The other day I heard that Geatz guy talk about how Paul Rat Ryan blocked them from getting anything done (something about not being able to issue any subpoenas). So, all of that is to say, I think draining the swamp and cleaning up the corruption is impossible, barring an asteroid landing on DC and demolishing it, so we could start over.
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Thought this article had some interesting info on Biden. I was under the impression that the neocon coup in Ukraine was run by Victoria Nuland (wife of that Kagan psychopath who brought us the war on Iraq), but this guy seems to say that Biden was also a key player over there and he says that there's even MORE MONEY that Biden was involved with looting!
Joe Biden and Ukraine: A Quick Reminder (https://www.stalkerzone.org/joe-biden-and-ukraine-a-quick-reminder/)
https://www.sott.net/article/421074-Joe-Biden-and-Ukraine-A-Quick-Reminder
Biden and Kolomoisky, separately, are involved in plundering $1.8 billion of the money the IMF allocated to Ukraine in 2014-2015.
And that's just from '14-'15. Imagine what else Joe pocketed
And this is old, but worth a revisit (obviously the real collusion with foreign govt was with the Dem/Killary)
The real collusion story: Ukraine conspired with Hillary Clinton to meddle in US elections (http://theduran.com/ukraines-collusion-with-hillary-clinton-to-meddle-in-us-elections-now-exposed/)
https://www.sott.net/article/356145-The-real-collusion-story-Ukraine-conspired-with-Hillary-Clinton-to-meddle-in-US-elections
****
And I should probably start a thread on everything that Deep state swamp Rat Attorney General Barr is NOT doing, like this:
(https://www.sott.net/article/356145-The-real-collusion-story-Ukraine-conspired-with-Hillary-Clinton-to-meddle-in-US-elections)AG Bill Barr IS NOT Investigating Biden Crime Family’s Billion Dollar Pay-for-Play Operation — WHY THE HELL NOT?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/ag-bill-barr-is-not-investigating-biden-crime-familys-billion-dollar-pay-for-play-operation-why-the-hell-not/
So, it's like the criminal left gets a free pass on everything.
Also, I'm still going through that Crowdsource the truth w/Lee Stranahan and Kevin Shipp, but thought it was interesting when he said Trump asked McMaster about Ukrainian collusion, and then McMaster said it was "Russian propaganda"--so who was that guy working for?? Seriously the whole freaking town is full of snakes.
Also, from the transcript of the phone call https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/09/dr-eowyn-transcript-of-call-between-trump-and-ukrainian-president-shows-no-wrongdoing/
The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.
So, what server is he talking about??? The DNC server?? So he's saying crowdstrike in Ukraine has it?? I saw someone over at the treehouse in the comment saying something like crowdstrike has a digital copy of it?? Anyone know the truth on this?
Also, that seems to expose another lie spewed by Dave @x22 (one of those Q people), who has been forever telling his audience that "the patriots have the server," along with "the patriots are in control" and "the deep state is on the run,"--give me a freaking break.
(https://www.sott.net/article/356145-The-real-collusion-story-Ukraine-conspired-with-Hillary-Clinton-to-meddle-in-US-elections)
Amanda
27th September 2019, 10:06 AM
Crowdsource the Truth with investigative reporter Lee Stranahan and former CIA whistleblower Kevin Shipp
http://youtu.be/AM-T4GKeQf4
https://youtu.be/AM-T4GKeQf4
Still making my way through this...
Stranahan seems to think this whole this is coming from the CIA, first with that weird (fake) story, about Oleg Smolenkov (https://www.sott.net/article/420269-Virginia-residents-skeptical-that-neighbor-was-actually-Russian-informant) where they tried to blame Trump for something connected to this guy, and now this new "whistleblower"/gossip blower also coming from CIA. Then Shipp suggests it's connected to bloody Gina Haspel--he adds that she's not giving Barr documents. Pretty sure the Larouchies thought that bloody Gina was in on the original coup (the Russia Hoax) since she was over there in London and close to nutjob Brennan.
ziero0
27th September 2019, 10:07 AM
Could you imagine a CIA whisteblower in the Clinton era? The body would hit the morgue before the best selling book I WAS A CIA WHISTLEBLOWER hit the market.
monty
27th September 2019, 10:20 AM
Still making my way through this...
Stranahan seems to think this whole this is coming from the CIA, first with that weird (fake) story, about Oleg Smolenkov (https://www.sott.net/article/420269-Virginia-residents-skeptical-that-neighbor-was-actually-Russian-informant) where they tried to blame Trump for something connected to this guy, and now this new "whistleblower"/gossip blower also coming from CIA. Then Shipp suggests it's connected to bloody Gina Haspel--he adds that she's not giving Barr documents. Pretty sure the Larouchies thought that bloody Gina was in on the original coup (the Russia Hoax) since she was over there in London and close to nutjob Brennan.
if you subscribe to patreon.com/kevinshipp the entire episode is about an hour long.
Amanda
27th September 2019, 11:45 AM
What Do the Jews Want In Ukraine? From RussiaGate to UkraineGate – The Raw Power of Ukraine’s Jewish Oligarchshttps://www.abeldanger.org/what-do-the-jews-want-in-ukraine-from-russiagate-to-ukrainegate-the-raw-power-of-ukraines-jewish-oligarchs/
Ed.’s note: We’ve gone through a lot of news sources to see if we couldn’t figure out what is going on in Ukraine as to why the Democrats, led by Jewish congressional representatives Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) who leads the impeachment committee (https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-25/ukraine-inquiry-adam-schiff-impeachment-20190926), Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) who is on the Judiciary Committee, Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.), Eliot Engel (D-New York) along with 21 other Jewish Democratic congressional representatives all calling for the impeachment of President Trump because of his phone call with President Zelensky of Ukraine.
It should be apparent that these Jewish “US congressional members” prefer the ascendancy of Israel over America many being paid off by Jewish-American oligarchs. Ukraine’s ex-President Petro Poroshenko (there are claims Poroshenko is Jewish) essentially acted as a Jewish proxy for oligarchic Jewish interests in Ukraine pressured by western political interests over Ukraine. Now the Jewish oligarch Victor Pinchuk, who it is alleged along with ex-President Petro Poroshenko, are accused of diverting IMF funds to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Fake news? Hard to say…
(more interesting info at the link)
includes this story https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/exclusive-former-ukrainian-secret-service-official-leaks-info-on-how-ukraine-funded-clinton-campaign-with-stolen-imf-money/
also includes info from Wayne Madsen saying jews have a secret plan for a second "Israel"/homeland in Ukraine (probably actually makes sense since this is closer to where those khazars came from).
How many homelands do they need?? Pretty sure I heard years ago about them in Patagonia (probably scoping that out in case they nuke the northern hemisphere) and they have that place in Russia somewhere that I think Stalin set up (that Lady Michelle Rounuf- sp? has talked about)
Jewboo
27th September 2019, 11:55 AM
... It seems like the jews have the whole system rigged and all the key positions are under control...
So, what server is he talking about??? The DNC server?? So he's saying crowdstrike in Ukraine has it?? I saw someone over at the treehouse in the comment saying something like crowdstrike has a digital copy of it?? Anyone know the truth on this?
(https://www.sott.net/article/356145-The-real-collusion-story-Ukraine-conspired-with-Hillary-Clinton-to-meddle-in-US-elections)
GUESS WHO HAS THE "KEY POSITION" TO KNOW THE ACTUAL TRUTH ABOUT THIS SERVER
(https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/orthodox-jewish-woman-to-head-nsa-s-new-cybersecurity-directorate-1.7574119)
:( Bingo! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?101186-Ukraine-info&p=955367&viewfull=1#post955367)
Amanda
27th September 2019, 02:17 PM
GUESS WHO HAS THE "KEY POSITION" TO KNOW THE ACTUAL TRUTH ABOUT THIS SERVER (https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/orthodox-jewish-woman-to-head-nsa-s-new-cybersecurity-directorate-1.7574119)
:( Bingo! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?101186-Ukraine-info&p=955367&viewfull=1#post955367)
Yes, all key positions under (((control)))
latest from Trump: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177669563477118976?s=09
Maybe all he can do is call attention to the criminality on twitter. DOJ is under swamp control, so nothing seems to be coming from Barr.
Amanda
27th September 2019, 03:05 PM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/27/breaking-icig-whistleblower-form-recently-modified-to-permit-complaint-heard-from-others/
Breaking – ICIG Whistleblower Form Recently Modified to Permit Complaint “Heard From Others”… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/27/breaking-icig-whistleblower-form-recently-modified-to-permit-complaint-heard-from-others/) Posted on September 27, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/27/breaking-icig-whistleblower-form-recently-modified-to-permit-complaint-heard-from-others/) by sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
Folks, this “Ukraine Whistleblower” event was a pre-planned event. As we begin to understand the general outline of how the Schiff Dossier was assembled, we are now starting to get into the specifics. First discovered by researcher Stephen McIntyr (https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1177580473566093312)e, there is now evidence surfacing showing the ICIG recently created an entirely new ‘whistleblower complaint form’ that specifically allowed for the filing of complaints “heard from others“.
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/whistleblower-complain-revision-1.jpg?w=640&h=543 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/whistleblower-complain-revision-1.jpg)
Prior to the current “whistleblower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 allowing for the EXACT type of complaint now registered from the CIA whistleblower.
The IGIC revision was made at the same time HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff was tweeting in August (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1166867471862829056) about President Trump, Rudy Giuliani and holding back funding pending assistance with political opponents. Note the Date: (link (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1166867471862829056))
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/schiff-tweet-ukraine.jpg?w=640 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/schiff-tweet-ukraine.jpg)
The timing here is far too coincidental. This was a set-up.
Sean Davis from the Federalist (https://t.co/ZvCpCMBx8h?amp=1) is also hot on the trail.
Sean Davis (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/intel-community-secretly-gutted-requirement-of-first-hand-whistleblower-knowledge/) – Between May 2018 and August 2019, the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct, first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings. This raises questions about the intelligence community’s behavior regarding the August submission of a whistleblower complaint (https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf) against President Donald Trump. The new complaint document no longer requires potential whistleblowers who wish to have their concerns expedited to Congress to have direct, first-hand knowledge of the alleged wrongdoing that they are reporting.
The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”
The internal properties of the newly revised “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form (https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/Hotline/Urgent%20Concern%20Disclosure%20Form.pdf), which the intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) requires to be submitted under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA), show that the document was uploaded on September 24, 2019, at 4:25 p.m., just days before the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public. The markings on the document state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date of revision is disclosed. (read more (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/intel-community-secretly-gutted-requirement-of-first-hand-whistleblower-knowledge/))
President Trump announced Joseph Macguire as the Acting ODNI on August 8th, 2019. (link (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/08/president-trump-announces-departure-of-deputy-dni-sue-gordon-former-admiral-joseph-maguire-will-serve-as-acting-dni/)) The CIA operative “whistle-blower” letter to Adam Schiff and Richard Burr was on August 12th (link (https://www.timesonline.com/news/20190926/whistleblowers-letter-to-chairmen-burr-schiff)). Immediately following this letter, the ICIG rules and requirements for “whistle-blowers” was modified, allowing hearsay complaints. On August 28th Adam Schiff begins tweeting about (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1166867471862829056) the construct of the complaint.
As Stephen McIntyre notes (https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1177604619033333761): “it appears almost certain that, subsequent to the CIA operative “WB” complaint, the DNI introduced a brand new Urgent Disclosure Form which offered a previously unavailable alternative to report allegations with no personal knowledge.”
The prior IGIC complaint form can be viewed via the Wayback Machine – SEE HERE (https://t.co/6dpanSQ3G9?amp=1) and the new IGIC complaint form that allows hearsay can be compared HERE (https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/Hotline/Urgent%20Concern%20Disclosure%20Form.pdf).
The CIA whistleblower complaint is likely the VERY FIRST complaint allowed using the new IGIC protocol and standard. Taken in combination with the timeline of the August 12th notification letter to Schiff and Burr and the Schiff tweet of August 28th, there’s little room for doubt this Ukraine whistleblower impeachment effort was pre-planned.
Additionally, this coordinated effort ties back-in Intelligence Community Inspector General, Michael K Atkinson.
The center of the Lawfare Alliance influence was/is the Department of Justice National Security Division, DOJ-NSD. It was the DOJ-NSD running the Main Justice side of the 2016 operations to support Operation Crossfire Hurricane and FBI agent Peter Strzok. It was also the DOJ-NSD where the sketchy legal theories around FARA violations (Sec. 901) originated.
The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) is Michael K Atkinson. ICIG Atkinson is the official who accepted the ridiculous premise of a hearsay ‘whistle-blower‘ complaint; an intelligence whistleblower who was “blowing-the-whistle” based on second hand information of a phone call without any direct personal knowledge, ie ‘hearsay‘.
Michael K Atkinson was previously (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-announces-intent-nominate-personnel-key-administration-posts-9/) the Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice (DOJ-NSD) in 2016. That makes Atkinson senior legal counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord who were the former heads of the DOJ-NSD in 2016 when the stop Trump operation was underway.
View this document on Scribd (https://www.scribd.com/doc/427107405)
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https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/michael-atkison-curriculum-vitae.jpg?w=565&h=363 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/michael-atkison-curriculum-vitae.jpg)
[Irony Reminder: The DOJ-NSD was purposefully under no IG oversight. In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58 page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE (https://t.co/b2VmsRhQ42)) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.]
Put another way, Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NSD players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer (https://www.scribd.com/doc/349542716)) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting.
Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse.
Immediately after the Carter Page FISA warrant is approved, in the period where DOJ-NSD head John Carlin has given his notice of intent to leave (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/head-of-justice-departments-national-security-division-to-step-down/2016/09/27/59cb95c4-84e6-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.085f94cb3812) but not yet left, inside those specific two weeks, the National Security Division of the DOJ tells the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) they have been breaking the law. The NSD specifically inform the court (https://www.scribd.com/doc/349542716) they are aware of contractors who have been using FISA 702(16)(17) database search queries to extract information on political candidates.
DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz has looked into the FISA application used against U.S. Person Carter Page. Additionally, U.S. Attorney John Durham is said to be looking at the intelligence communities’ use of systems for spying and surveillance.
If the DOJ-NSD exploitation of the NSA database, and/or DOJ-NSD FISA abuse, and/or DOJ-NSD FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, current ICIG Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement.
Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Schiff/Lawfare impeachment objective.
Atkinson’s conflict-of-self-interest, and/or possible blackmail upon him by deep state actors who most certainly know his compromise, likely influenced his approach to this whistleblower complaint. That would explain why the Dept. of Justice Office of Legal Counsel so strongly rebuked Atkinson’s interpretation (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6429710-OLC-Opinion-Trump-Ukraine-Call.html) of his responsibility with the complaint.
In the Justice Department’s OLC opinion, they point out that Atkinson’s internal justification for accepting the whistleblower complaint was poor legal judgement. [See Here (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6429710-OLC-Opinion-Trump-Ukraine-Call.html)] I would say Atkinson’s decision is directly related to his own risk exposure:
View this document on Scribd (https://www.scribd.com/doc/427513014)
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Within a heavy propaganda report (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-whistleblower.html) from the New York Times there are also details about the Intelligence Community Inspector General that show the tell-tale fingerprints of the ICIG supportive intent (emphasis mine):
[…] Mr. Atkinson, a Trump appointee, nevertheless concluded that the allegations appeared to be credible and identified two layers of concern.
The first involved a possible violation of criminal law. Mr. Trump’s comments to Mr. Zelensky “could be viewed as soliciting a foreign campaign contribution in violation of the campaign-finance laws,” Mr. Atkinson wrote, according to the Justice Department memo. (read more (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-whistleblower.html))
Does the “foreign campaign contribution” angle sound familiar? It should, because that argument was used in the narrative around the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian Lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskaya. More specifically, just like FARA violations the overused “campaign contribution” narrative belongs to a specific network of characters, Lawfare.
The “Schiff Dossier”, aka “whistle-blower” complaint was a constructed effort of allied members within congress and the intelligence apparatus to renew the impeachment effort. The intelligence team, including the ICIG, changed the whistleblower form to allow the CIA to insert the Schiff Dossier, written by Lawfare.
The Soft-Coup effort continues…
Amanda
28th September 2019, 10:32 AM
thought this was interesting...
Pelosi's Impeachment bluff hides real Ukraine story; CrowdStrike, Soros & Hillary servers in Kiev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8YId7LwpOo
The Duran Quick Take: Episode 315. The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and Editor-in-Chief Alexander Mercouris discuss the release of a transcript between U.S. President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, which was the basis of a Democrat push for an impeachment inquiry and which does not reveal any type of 'quid pro quo' or other attempt to pressure Ukraine into investigating former Obama VP Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
They still seem to have faith in Barr and Durham looking into origins of the Russia Hoax, which lead to Ukraine (I have serious doubts--I think they are slow-walking and dragging their feet in the hope that the coup works and they can get him out of there, and then all the evidence of Coup Plot #1 will be disappeared for ever)
They also note how Laura Ingraham tried to cut off Guiliani when he talked about the money trail with Biden and all the evidence he has. Also noted that the corporate whore media is making sure to NOT mention the Neocon coup in Ukraine with Nuland, Biden and Obama
They also say that Russia has bugs/spies all over Ukraine and they probably know everything that Ukraine knows about colluding with the Dems/Clinton, crowdstrike and the server
monty
28th September 2019, 02:27 PM
I thought this video from Kevin Shipp on who he thinks the “whistleblower” is was pretty good.
Mike ‘@Thomas1774Paine Moore, investigative reporter and editor of True Pundit https://truepundit.com/ is of the opinion “John Bolton’s fingerprints are all over the ‘whistleblower’ report”.
http://youtu.be/1Cw_Q-aTRXc
https://youtu.be/1Cw_Q-aTRXc
Amanda
28th September 2019, 03:08 PM
Mike ‘@Thomas1774Paine’ Moore, investigative reporter and editor of True Pundit https://truepundit.com/ is of the opinion “John Bolton’s fingerprints are all over the ‘whistleblower’ report”.
Yes, I've seen others suggest the same about Bolton.
I also wonder if this has to do with Trump NOT attacking Iran. It's obvious that is what the (((deep state))) wants--they kept having all of these staged events, saying "look Iran did it," and expecting Trump to take the bait and attack (I think one was the unmanned drone shot down by Iran, then another with those mines in the gulf, and then the latest Saudi oil attacks) . Can't help but wonder if this would be going on if Trump had in fact took the bait and attacked Iran.
Also, does anyone here know if Q was the one telling people that Trump has the DNC server (or Hillary's server)?? I know I've heard that Dave @x22 report telling his followers that Trump and "we the patriots" have the servers (still can't believe what happened to Dave--he used to offer a good analysis of events until he got hooked on that Q crap--he's still telling his followers that "the patriots are in control"--well it sure as hell doesn't look like that to me). The reason I bring up the server is b/c Trump mentioned it in the phone call (so clearly he and the patriots DON'T have it)
I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it.
Also, this guy is suggesting that some of those WHORES in congress helped the gossipblower write up the complaint:
Skulduggery? Former NSA staff chief suggests 'whistleblower' may have had Congress members' help drafting complaint (https://www.theepochtimes.com/former-nsa-chief-of-staff-suggests-whistleblower-may-have-had-congress-members-help-on-drafting-complaint_3098870.html)
https://www.sott.net/article/421164-Skulduggery-Former-NSA-staff-chief-suggests-whistleblower-may-have-had-Congress-members-help-drafting-complaint
Also, good summary of the whole Crowdstrike connection to this whole mess:
(https://www.sott.net/article/421164-Skulduggery-Former-NSA-staff-chief-suggests-whistleblower-may-have-had-Congress-members-help-drafting-complaint)Cyber Expert Explains the Theory of Crowdstrike's Connection to Ukraine, DNC Hacking Controversyhttps://sputniknews.com/analysis/201909271076898843-cyber-expert-explains-the-theory-of-crowdstrikes-connection-to-ukraine-dnc-hacking-controversy/
(https://www.sott.net/article/421164-Skulduggery-Former-NSA-staff-chief-suggests-whistleblower-may-have-had-Congress-members-help-drafting-complaint)
monty
28th September 2019, 05:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised it it is Bolton. Many believe the whistleblower had. Professional help.
Amerian Intelligence Media ~ Breaking News : Ukraine Impeachment Source Revealed
http://youtu.be/yFjIJ5-8gnw
https://youtu.be/yFjIJ5-8gnw
Amanda
29th September 2019, 11:16 AM
Latest tweet from Trump:
They are trying to stop ME, because I am fighting for YOU!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178055467987275776
Long but interesting:
How the President’s reference to CrowdStrike Set Off a Frantic Drive for Impeachment, about Ukraine
https://larouchepac.com/20190926/how-president-s-reference-crowdstrike-set-frantic-drive-impeachment-about-ukraine
Summary of points in ave long talk are here: https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts
They also mentioned something about the (((Oligarchy))) out of London declared that in no way can Trump be allowed to serve second term.
lots of info, still making my way through, they say that the same people who were involved with the coup Ukraine are behind the latest coup
also, off topic, they mention plays for a world crypto currency
monty
29th September 2019, 11:45 AM
Amanda said
They also mentioned something about the (((Oligarchy))) out of London declared that in no way can Trump be allowed to serve second term.. Douglas Gabriel & wife Tyla have been calling put the British Oligarchy for months. ~ American Intelligence Media, 96.8k subscribers
Today’s show listed 2076 views then immediately dropped to 1732 views???
http://youtu.be/eb1FgB25V54
https://youtu.be/eb1FgB25V54
Jewboo
29th September 2019, 11:51 AM
https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts
(https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts)
Oy Vey! Inspector General (((Horowitz))) could have released this a year ago:
Fact (7). So, we had a President temporarily free to conduct his own foreign policy and we have a DOJ Inspector General’s report, about to drop, about the illegal surveillance conducted against the Presidential campaign of Donald Trump based on the bogus dossier of a British agent Christopher Steele. For the actual enemies of the United States, it is imperative that Attorney General Barr, Inspector Horowitz, and, as significantly, U.S. Attorney John Durham be drowned out ahead of the release of the Horowitz report. It also is imperative that Durham be exposed to massive political heat in order to discredit Giuliani’s investigation. According to the DOJ, Durham has spoken with 4 former Ukrainian officials about what Giuliani found and is evaluating the information. In short, this impeachment push is a huge and massive operation to convince the population that snow is black, ahead of what is about to be revealed about massive operations in 2016-2017 to conduct a coup against the incoming president of the United States.
Talk about yet another jew in a critical Intelligence position of power "slow walking" an investigation...lol.
:D
Amanda
29th September 2019, 12:26 PM
Oy Vey! Inspector General (((Horowitz))) could have released this a year ago:
Talk about yet another jew in a critical Intelligence position of power "slow walking" an investigation...lol.
:D
Yes, that's the way I see it. And I agree with the Judicial watch guy, Chris Farrell, that IG is where truth goes to die. I basically see all IG investigations as coverup operations that give the illusion that they are looking into things when they are really hiding things and trying to find a way to sell it to the people.
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Amanda
29th September 2019, 02:23 PM
Amanda said . Douglas Gabriel & wife Tyla have been calling put the British Oligarchy for months. ~ American Intelligence Media, 96.8k subscribers
Today’s show listed 2076 views then immediately dropped to 1732 views???
http://youtu.be/eb1FgB25V54
https://youtu.be/eb1FgB25V54
Yes, Dean Henderson at lefthook also talks about crown agents being at the top. The way I look at things is that British Empire=Yiddish Empire, British Oligarchs=Jewish Oligarchs, and I pretty much think all oligarchs=jewish) The larouchies (yes, I know, they are cult-like, but still they do put out a lot of good info, you just have to ignore the bad, and they have always focused on the "British Empire" which I take to mean "Oligarchy of Jewish Bankers based in City of London). And by "British Empire," I take them to mean the "financial empire" and they seem to think that the same (((banking families))) are continuing to rule over us.
Still going through this:
Concerning the Coup Against Trump: Some Plain Facts
https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts
And thought this was interesting concerning the timing:
Fact (7). So, we had a President temporarily free to conduct his own foreign policy and we have a DOJ Inspector General’s report, about to drop, about the illegal surveillance conducted against the Presidential campaign of Donald Trump based on the bogus dossier of a British agent Christopher Steele. For the actual enemies of the United States, it is imperative that Attorney General Barr, Inspector Horowitz, and, as significantly, U.S. Attorney John Durham be drowned out ahead of the release of the Horowitz report. It also is imperative that Durham be exposed to massive political heat in order to discredit Giuliani’s investigation. According to the DOJ, Durham has spoken with 4 former Ukrainian officials about what Giuliani found and is evaluating the information. In short, this impeachment push is a huge and massive operation to convince the population that snow is black, ahead of what is about to be revealed about massive operations in 2016-2017 to conduct a coup against the incoming president of the United States.
More interesting info here:
Fact (9). Michael T. Atkinson, Inspector General for the DNI, who is handling the CIA whistleblower complaint against the President, previously worked for coup central at the Justice Department, the National Security Division. This is where the 2016-2017 coup operations against the Trump Campaign were launched, during the time he worked there. This entire division of the DOJ was removed from the jurisdiction of DOJ Inspector General Horowitz by former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Yet, it is at the center of the FISA abuse which Inspector General Horowitz is now investigating.
Fact (10). The “Whistleblower” is a client of lawyers associated with Compass Inc., which put out widespread ads on billboards and in leaflets in Washington, D.C., that they would represent intelligence community leakers (whistleblowers) against Trump for purposes of impeachment and financially support them while doing so. As Bill Binney noted, the complaint is almost entirely hearsay. It is composed of second hand gossip and news clips and strung together by lawyers. The Inspector General Atkinson is forced to admit that there is some evidence that the man identified by the New York Times as a CIA officer, is politically biased.
EE_
29th September 2019, 03:47 PM
Yes, that's the way I see it. And I agree with the Judicial watch guy, Chris Farrell, that IG is where truth goes to die. I basically see all IG investigations as coverup operations that give the illusion that they are looking into things when they are really hiding things and trying to find a way to sell it to the people.
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Agreed, I'm counting on Bill Barr, Rudy Giuliani, Tom Finton, Joe diGenova, John Durham, John Solomon, Sara Carter and Trump, to blow this massive crime apart.
Jewboo
29th September 2019, 04:16 PM
....Yes, that's the way I see it. And I agree with the Judicial watch guy, Chris Farrell, that IG is where truth goes to die. I basically see all IG investigations as coverup operations that give the illusion that they are looking into things when they are really hiding things and trying to find a way to sell it to the people...
...The way I look at things is that British Empire=Yiddish Empire, British Oligarchs=Jewish Oligarchs, and I pretty much think all oligarchs=jewish)...
Amanda CLEARLY gets our sad goyim Reality then EE immediately posts this as his response:
I'm counting on Bill Barr, Rudy Giuliani, Tom Finton, Joe diGenova, John Durham, John Solomon, Sara Carter and Trump (https://www.tabletmag.com/wp-content/files_mf/trump_2560.jpg), to blow this massive crime apart.
:rolleyes:
Amanda
29th September 2019, 04:35 PM
Agreed, I'm counting on Bill Barr, Rudy Giuliani, Tom Finton, Joe diGenova, John Durham, John Solomon, Sara Carter and Trump, to blow this massive crime apart.
I worry about Barr - he's CIA (once CIA, always CIA) with a LONG HISTORY of covering for the intelligence agencies.
CIA Covert Operative William Barr Nominated by Trump for Attorney General. His Role in the Iran Contra Affair
https://www.globalresearch.ca/ciabushiran-contra-covert-operative-fixer-william-barr-nominated-attorney-general/5662609 (detailed list of all the coverups for the intell agencies)
Why was Barr chosen, given his shocking and deeply criminal/cover-up kingpin background? Was Trump duped by Deep State enemies, who have placed another predator into his administration with the power to destroy his presidency?... Why would Barr ever turn against his own Deep State cronies? ...is Barr the Deep State’s ultimate and final weapon against Trump, who remains surrounded by Bush/Clinton “swamp creatures” such as National Security Adviser John Bolton (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6574663/Trump-distancing-John-Bolton-calls-Mike-Bolton-mistake.html), who is one of Barr’s many fellow Iran-Contra co-conspirators (http://washingtonnote.com/john_bolton_has/), Vice President Mike Pence (who is in ideal position for a coup (https://twitter.com/Knowita47918362/status/1052231493047775232) against Trump, and remains very cozy with the Clintons (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJKQES7T1mI&feature=youtu.be), dozens of Obama appointees that remain in place, and Republican “Never Trumpers”, all of whom continue to undermine Trump....as the AG from 1991 to 1993, Barr wreaked havoc, flaunted the rule of law, and proved himself to be one of the CIA/Deep State’s greatest and most ruthless champions and protectors (https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994/eirv21n42-19941021/eirv21n42-19941021_029-william_barr_the_bush_clique_and.pdf)
So, he's spent his whole career covering for the deep state/intell agencies, but now we are supposed to believe he's suddenly going to be a good guy and expose them?? (I'm seriously worried)
I'm highly suspicious that the declassification of the Russia Hoax/Coup Plot #1 has not happened yet.
So is this guy:
103 Days – Where Are Rosenstein’s Scope Memos to Robert Mueller?… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/02/103-days-where-are-rosensteins-scope-memos-to-robert-mueller/)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/02/103-days-where-are-rosensteins-scope-memos-to-robert-mueller/
On May 23rd, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/23/boom-process-started-president-trump-issues-authorization-memorandum-for-declassification/), President Donald Trump gave U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr full authority to review and release all of the classified material hidden by the DOJ, FBI, State Department, CIA, FISA Court, and aggregate intelligence apparatus; 103 days ago.It has been 103 days since President Trump empowered AG Bill Barr to release the original authorizing framework of the Mueller investigation which began on May 17, 2017. A Mueller investigation that concluded six months ago, and yet we are not allowed to know what the authorizing framework was?…. Nor the 2nd DOJ scope memo of August 2nd, 2017?… Nor the 3rd DOJ scope memo of October 20th, 2017?….
And this is on Lindsey Graham (obviously can never be trusted)
Senator Lindsey Graham Sends Independent Declassification Request/List to AG Bill Barr…. (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/03/senator-lindsey-graham-sends-independent-declassification-request-list-to-ag-bill-barr/)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/03/senator-lindsey-graham-sends-independent-declassification-request-list-to-ag-bill-barr/
Something not passing the sniff test here. With a pre-existing, and more comprehensive, declassification of documents request already submitted by GOP leaders in the House of Representatives, why would Lindsey Graham develop a less comprehensive list? I find it curious the Senator Graham list only relates to the DOJ/FBI corruption that can be specifically pinned on President Obama officials; and avoids requests that would show corruption in the DOJ/FBI after President Obama left office.
Note: no-one is looking for -or demanding- the obvious stuff; like the ‘clean and unredacted’ text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok; or the instructions Rod Rosenstein gave to Robert Mueller, etc
And back to Barr, I actually find this kind of alarming:
DOJ Clarifies Their Position on Declassification – “Delegated Authority”… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/27/doj-clarifies-their-position-on-declassification-delegated-authority/)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/27/doj-clarifies-their-position-on-declassification-delegated-authority/
AG Barr/DOJ now seem to be playing word games, saying Trump did not order Barr to declassify Russia hoax docs, but that he instead gave him the power to review such docs and determine if anything should be declassified, which now leaves open the possibility that the declass will NOT happen....I worry they are dragging their feet on purpose, hoping that Coup #2 removes Trump, and then the evidence of Russia Hoax Coup #1 will remain hidden
Today in a court filing, surrounding a FOIA case seeking access to the fully unredacted Carter Page FISA application, the DOJ clarified the position of the DOJ as it pertains to President Trump’s May 2019 declassification authority. (pdf available here (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6432762/Reply-to-opposition-to-motion.pdf))
The DOJ highlights that President Trump did not order AG William Barr to declassify anything. Instead, according to the official position of the DOJ, President Trump “delegated authority” to the Attorney General to determine *if* anything should be declassified:...
Whether AG Bill Barr does actually declassify anything is open to debate. The current odds remain slightly less than 50/50; however, those odds could diminish significantly if the impeachment effort is successful.
The current priority for the Dept. of Justice does not appear to be highlighting internal corruption that targeted President Trump. The current institutional priority appears to be (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/24/foia-release-of-mccabe-memo-highlights-much-more-than-rosensteins-wear-a-wire-controversy/) protecting Rod Rosenstein.
I don't know anything about Durham--I hope he's not dirty, but given how deep and vast the swamp is, and how much we keep getting played (like Sessions side-stepping calls for a Special Council on all things Hillary, including Uranium one, by appointing Huber, who hasn't even talked with the Uranium one REAL whistleblower), I trust nothing.
monty
29th September 2019, 05:21 PM
I don't know anything about this Mark Levin, but he ripped Fox and friends pretty good. ~ Headlines With a Voice
http://youtu.be/NOslMlTtU5c
https://youtu.be/NOslMlTtU5c
Amanda
29th September 2019, 06:20 PM
I don't know anything about this Mark Levin, but he ripped Fox and friends pretty good. ~ Headlines With a Voice
Yes, Mark Levin has been good on the coup. But that's about all (I think).
All I know is that he LOVES Israel and would LOVE the US to bomb Iran
Fox News’ Mark Levin honored at Friends of Zion Museumhttps://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Fox-News-Mark-Levin-honored-at-Friends-of-Zion-Museum-594841
Amanda
29th September 2019, 06:25 PM
I don't know anything about this Mark Levin, but he ripped Fox and friends pretty good. ~ Headlines With a Voice
http://youtu.be/NOslMlTtU5c
https://youtu.be/NOslMlTtU5c
Sundance at the conservativetreehouse has a write-up on this segment with Levin
Righteously Angered – Mark Levin Discusses The Sneaky Construct of Pelosi’s Impeachment Plan… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/29/righteously-angered-mark-levin-discusses-the-sneaky-construct-of-pelosis-impeachment-plan/)
Posted on September 29, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/29/righteously-angered-mark-levin-discusses-the-sneaky-construct-of-pelosis-impeachment-plan/) by sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
Thankfully word is getting out (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/09/29/nancy-pelosis-december-2018-rule-changes-block-republicans-participating-impeachment-process/); people are starting to recognize the construct behind House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s highly political impeachment plan (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/28/pelosis-house-rule-changes-are-key-part-of-articles-of-impeachment-being-drafted-over-next-two-weeks/). [CTH will have more on the plan details soon because key democrats are leaving distinct fingerprints.]
In the first four minutes of this interview Mark Levin outlines how Speaker Pelosi is throwing out customs, traditions, processes and protocols within the House impeachment scheme. This is not a flaw of their plan, this is a key feature (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/28/pelosis-house-rule-changes-are-key-part-of-articles-of-impeachment-being-drafted-over-next-two-weeks/). As CTH has outlined (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/28/pelosis-house-rule-changes-are-key-part-of-articles-of-impeachment-being-drafted-over-next-two-weeks/), a concerted group of like-minded ideologues – that also consists of Lawfare allies, are following a plan developed soon after, if not before (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/08/what-we-can-expect-with-a-democrat-marxist-controlled-house-of-representatives/), the 2018 mid-term election.
Additionally, Mr. Levin accurately calls-out Fox reporter Ed Henry for promoting the false narrative, containing Democrat talking points, about the Trump-Ukraine phone call. President Trump also tweeted this full broadcast from this morning. Quite a segment:
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Levin notes that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell should refuse to accept the articles of impeachment when delivered by the House Impeachment Managers, unless a bipartisan process is followed. However, Speaker Pelosi (via Lawfare) already has a plan for that angle…. more to follow.
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Sundance comment:
sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.wordpress.com) says: September 29, 2019 at 8:53 pm (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/29/righteously-angered-mark-levin-discusses-the-sneaky-construct-of-pelosis-impeachment-plan/#comment-7406098)
They won’t. Senator McConnell will accept the articles from the House managers.
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Yes, of course, he'll accept them b/c he's another snake.
EE_
29th September 2019, 08:21 PM
Something the media or Republicans are not talking about. When Biden told the Ukraine they won't get the money, the Ukraine replied "you don't have the authority, you're not the president", Biden replied "call him". Doesn't this implicate Obama in the shakedown? If Pence did this and said to call Trump...what do you think Democrats would do?
Start @ 0:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urTk6O4c0mU
Amanda
29th September 2019, 08:48 PM
Something the media or Republicans are not talking about. When Biden told the Ukraine they won't get the money, the Ukraine replied "you don't have the authority, you're not the president", Biden replied "call him". Doesn't this implicate Obama in the shakedown? If Pence did this and said to call Trump...what do you think Democrats would do?
Start @ 0:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urTk6O4c0mU
Sure sounds like Biden was basically saying he has Obama's backing.
And, yeah, of course, the media is going to keep ignoring that b/c the Kenyan is protected.
This whole thing is beyond disgusting. They are basically impeaching him for their own crimes.
Watched Mark Levin tonight w/Peter Schweitzer going over the Biden/Ukraine, Biden/China scandals, and Mark read a letter from 3 democrat Senators (Menendez, Leahy, and Durbin) threatening Urkaine's aid if they didn't go along with the Mueller investigation and more. Haven't seen that letter on line.
Also, over at the treehouse, there was some article about Barr being over in Italy. I guess Papadapolous tweeted about it (seems to think it's a good sign). Sundance was mildly hopeful. But others in the comments were saying what took him so long. No word on who he was actually meeting with. I guess it has to do with the Papadapolous angle and how he got roped into the Russia hoax plot. I still don't trust Barr. I'll trust he's on the right side of things when he actually delivers something, like the declass and putting some of these people in prison.
Also, I keep hearing (maybe from Guiliani?) something about how people in Ukraine had evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election in the US and how they had been trying to get it to the FBI for 1 1 /2 years, but were getting blocked. Not sure what that's about. Somebody, like Dan Bongino or someone else NOT on the corporate whore news needs to have Guilliani on their show and just let him speak and tell everything he knows. Whenever he's on those Fox shows, they constantly interrupt him and cut him off, when he's clearly going somewhere with what he's talking about.
EE_
29th September 2019, 09:09 PM
I keep hoping one morning we all wake up to find out 100 US Marshals have raided and arrested the whole rats nest of these criminals, in one fell swoop.
Jewboo
29th September 2019, 09:46 PM
...And, yeah, of course, the media is going to keep ignoring that b/c the Kenyan is protected....Mark read a letter from 3 democrat Senators (Menendez, Leahy, and Durbin) threatening Urkaine's aid if they didn't go along with the Mueller investigation and more. Haven't seen that letter on line. ...No word on who he was actually meeting with.... on the corporate whore news needs to have Guilliani on their show and just let him speak and tell everything he knows. Whenever he's on those Fox shows, they constantly interrupt him and cut him off, when he's clearly going somewhere with what he's talking about.
(((THE MEDIA ))) (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1491372900827.jpg)
:rolleyes:
Amanda
30th September 2019, 05:40 AM
I keep hoping one morning we all wake up to find out 100 US Marshals have raided and arrested the whole rats nest of these criminals, in one fell swoop.
Yeah, I hear you. I don't know what the answer is. I'd say about 98% of the govt is completely corrupt. I don't see how it will ever get cleaned up.
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Looks like it's not just Guiliani who has been looking into Ukraine matters. Apparently, Victoria Toensing and Joe DiGenova have also been involved:
I don't know how to repost a tweet, but here's what she said:
@VicToensing
(https://twitter.com/VicToensing) (https://twitter.com/VicToensing/status/1178559293056077824)
Why is it when hubby and I agree to a request to represent Ukrainian whistleblowers, it is called “digging up dirt” on @JoeBiden (https://twitter.com/JoeBiden) , but lawyers representing CIA “whistleblower” are not “digging up dirt” on @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) but doing country a “public service”? #maga2020 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/maga2020?src=hash)
Maybe this has to do with what Guiliani was talking about--that there were some people over in Ukraine who had info on Ukranian officials meddling in the 2016 US election, who were somehow getting blocked in trying to get the info to the FBI (something like that anyway).
monty
30th September 2019, 06:06 AM
Sure sounds like Biden was basically saying he has Obama's backing.
And, yeah, of course, the media is going to keep ignoring that b/c the Kenyan is protected.
This whole thing is beyond disgusting. They are basically impeaching him for their own crimes.
Watched Mark Levin tonight w/Peter Schweitzer going over the Biden/Ukraine, Biden/China scandals, and Mark read a letter from 3 democrat Senators (Menendez, Leahy, and Durbin) threatening Urkaine's aid if they didn't go along with the Mueller investigation and more. Haven't seen that letter on line.
Also, over at the treehouse, there was some article about Barr being over in Italy. I guess Papadapolous tweeted about it (seems to think it's a good sign). Sundance was mildly hopeful. But others in the comments were saying what took him so long. No word on who he was actually meeting with. I guess it has to do with the Papadapolous angle and how he got roped into the Russia hoax plot. I still don't trust Barr. I'll trust he's on the right side of things when he actually delivers something, like the declass and putting some of these people in prison.
Also, I keep hearing (maybe from Guiliani?) something about how people in Ukraine had evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election in the US and how they had been trying to get it to the FBI for 1 1 /2 years, but were getting blocked. Not sure what that's about. Somebody, like Dan Bongino or someone else NOT on the corporate whore news needs to have Guilliani on their show and just let him speak and tell everything he knows. Whenever he's on those Fox shows, they constantly interrupt him and cut him off, when he's clearly going somewhere with what he's talking about.
Here is the letter form the three Senators
https://mobile.twitter.com/dumbestaward/status/1177064628091854849?s=21
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Dumbest Verfieid Tweet of the Day
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It’s illegal for an elected official to ask a foreign country to investigate someone else? Well, is a letter from three Democrat senators urging Ukraine to investigate Trump. When is their #impeachment (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/impeachment?src=hashtag_click)?
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ziero0
30th September 2019, 07:21 AM
I keep hoping one morning we all wake up to find out 100 US Marshals have raided and arrested the whole rats nest of these criminals, in one fell swoop.
Before you wish this you might look into the criminal behavior of U.S. marshals.
monty
30th September 2019, 07:46 AM
Former CIA whistleblower Kevin Shipp with an update on the Trump phonecall “whistleblower”
http://youtu.be/e70rM7RQPh0
https://youtu.be/e70rM7RQPh0
EE_
30th September 2019, 07:48 AM
Yeah, I hear you. I don't know what the answer is. I'd say about 98% of the govt is completely corrupt. I don't see how it will ever get cleaned up.
*****************
Looks like it's not just Guiliani who has been looking into Ukraine matters. Apparently, Victoria Toensing and Joe DiGenova have also been involved:
I don't know how to repost a tweet, but here's what she said:
Maybe this has to do with what Guiliani was talking about--that there were some people over in Ukraine who had info on Ukranian officials meddling in the 2016 US election, who were somehow getting blocked in trying to get the info to the FBI (something like that anyway).
I believe Trump used Guiliani, diGenova and Toensing, because they are the very few he could trust. The White House and DC is full of swamp creatures looking to take Trump down.
Trump's lawyers should not allow this impeachment inquiry to go forward until the CIA whistleblower answers a few questions: Who changed the language in the whistleblower laws? Who wrote the document...did he have help? When was Adam Schitt told/contacted what was in the document? Where did he get this fraudulent information?
Adam Schitt needs to go on record too, what he knew and when, and if he helped the whistleblower.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 08:11 AM
I believe Trump used Guiliani, diGenova and Toensing, because they are the very few he could trust. The White House and DC is full of swamp creatures looking to take Trump down.
Yes, totally agree--they are truly the only ones he can trust.
And Toensing and DiGenova have been continuing to vouch for Barr. I've noticed that even Lou Dobbs has been getting a bit suspicious/frustrated with Barr and the lack of results, in terms of the declass, and Barr working on the gun-grabbing crap (!!!!!!), and when he had Toensing and DiGenova on, he kind of asked them, and they still said that believe Barr will get to the bottom of things, and then Lou basically said his belief in Barr was based on their continued support of him.
I also noticed Judge Jeanine was getting a bit suspicious too, wondering why it's taking so long.
But yes, right now, all Trump has to trust are Guiliani, Toensing, and DiGenova.
monty
30th September 2019, 08:17 AM
I believe Trump used Guiliani, diGenova and Toensing, because they are the very few he could trust. The White House and DC is full of swamp creatures looking to take Trump down.
Trump's lawyers should not allow this impeachment inquiry to go forward until the CIA whistleblower answers a few questions: Who changed the language in the whistleblower laws? Who wrote the document...did he have help? When was Adam Schitt told/contacted what was in the document? Where did he get this fraudulent information?
Adam Schitt needs to go on record too, what he knew and when, and if he helped the whistleblower.
Have you watched Kevin Shipp’s video?
Adam Schitt’s fingerprints are on both the changing of the whistleblower rules and the authoring of the whistleblower document. I believe he was deeply involved in both.
EE_
30th September 2019, 08:19 AM
Yes, totally agree--they are truly the only ones he can trust.
And Toensing and DiGenova have been continuing to vouch for Barr. I've noticed that even Lou Dobbs has been getting a bit suspicious/frustrated with Barr and the lack of results, in terms of the declass, and Barr working on the gun-grabbing crap (!!!!!!), and when he had Toensing and DiGenova on, he kind of asked them, and they still said that believe Barr will get to the bottom of things, and then Lou basically said his belief in Barr was based on their continued support of him.
I also noticed Judge Jeanine was getting a bit suspicious too, wondering why it's taking so long.
But yes, right now, all Trump has to trust are Guiliani, Toensing, and DiGenova.
We are all suspicious now. I have to think this coup on our government is so big, that Barr does not want to risk getting caught up in it. Too many people are involved, do you think Barr will risk destroying his career, reputation and going to prison by covering it up? I think quite the opposite, this will be the cherry on his career, he will be famous and in the history books as the man that took down the biggest conspiracy in US history.
The IG Michael Horowitz is a different story, he is a swamp creature!
EE_
30th September 2019, 08:20 AM
Have you watched Kevin Shipp’s video?
Adam Schitt’s fingerprints are on both the changing of the whistleblower rules and the authoring of the whistleblower document. I believe he was deeply involved in both.
Yep. I know Shitt is neck deep in this coup.
Jewboo
30th September 2019, 09:19 AM
Too many people are involved, do you think Barr will risk destroying his career, reputation and going to prison by covering it up? I think quite the opposite, this will be the cherry on his career, he will be famous and in the history books as the man that took down the biggest conspiracy in US history.
DID YOU GET THIS FANTASY FROM A JEW MOVIE ? (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SZgEOwalmbI/WwRZh1CBvwI/AAAAAAAASmc/1lgHWtsqu8sAX0mcEwOsXy1jYll1QazTACLcBGAs/s640/SevenDaysPoster.jpg)
:rolleyes:
They will JFK our current President if it gets that dicey.
Cebu_4_2
30th September 2019, 09:39 AM
They will JFK our current President if it gets that dicey.
You still wonder why Trump gobbles isreals cock? With isreals backing he is safe cause you know who runs things here in the land of the free.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 10:03 AM
DID YOU GET THIS FANTASY FROM A JEW MOVIE ? (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SZgEOwalmbI/WwRZh1CBvwI/AAAAAAAASmc/1lgHWtsqu8sAX0mcEwOsXy1jYll1QazTACLcBGAs/s640/SevenDaysPoster.jpg)
:rolleyes:
They will JFK our current President if it gets that dicey.
Yes, I was thinking that too--they could easily just give him a heart attack and say the stress of the impeachment was too much for him.
EE_
30th September 2019, 10:07 AM
DID YOU GET THIS FANTASY FROM A JEW MOVIE ? (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SZgEOwalmbI/WwRZh1CBvwI/AAAAAAAASmc/1lgHWtsqu8sAX0mcEwOsXy1jYll1QazTACLcBGAs/s640/SevenDaysPoster.jpg)
:rolleyes:
They will JFK our current President if it gets that dicey.
I don't know where you live, but it's always been obvious you want to see our country fall.
The sad part is, you might just get your wish. We are now in the midst of the great take down of America. The leftist elite are all in on this final coup, there's no turning back.
I believe we will see who emerges victorious by the 2020 election. Will it be Jewboo and his Satanic friends, or the American patriots.
EE_
30th September 2019, 10:08 AM
Yes, I was thinking that too--they could easily just give him a heart attack and say the stress of the impeachment was too much for him.
If that happens, you will see what America looks like in ruin.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 11:11 AM
Everyone is talking about Civil War:
Limbaugh: We're In The Middle Of "A Cold Civil War"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/limbaugh-were-middle-cold-civil-war
The Democrats have declared war against President Trump and those who support him. Instead of bullets, they use lies.
“The media is not media. It’s just Democrats who work in the media, and the whole group of ’em is aligned. And what we are in the middle of now, folks, is a Cold Civil War,” Rush Limbaugh said said on his radio show.
Limbaugh put forth that the “Cold Civil War” encompasses overturning “the election results of 2016” and “protecting and defending” the Washington establishment.”
“Their careers, their fortunes, their corruption. There are terribly big stakes involved here for these people. And Trump is on the cusp of overturning it and exposing it,” Limbaugh said.
Limbaugh called the latest developments involving Ukraine “nothing more than the Steele dossier 2.0,” alluding that it is an extension of the Russia investigation.
“It’s the same people, it’s the same scam, it’s the same objective,” Limbaugh said.
The whistleblower complaint is the latest stage of this war. Limbaugh correctly notes that the report is manufactured political opposition research (https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/09/27/were-in-the-midst-of-a-cold-civil-war/), just as Christopher Steele’s dossier was. And the entire Democratic Party, including the media, is acting as if it’s real.
Jim Kunstler Warns "Civil War On!"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jim-kunstler-warns-civil-war
Someone in Impeachmentville is not paying attention. Of course, diverting the rubes is exactly the point of the latest CIA operation to negate the 2016 election. Has nobody noticed that there is treaty between Ukraine and the USA, signed at Kiev in 1998 and ratified by the US Senate in 2000. It’s an agreement on “Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters.” Here, read the cover letter for yourself:
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What part of the following do Nancy Pelosi and the news media not understand?
The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state… ([etc].
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How does this not permit Mr. Trump asking the president of Ukraine for “assistance” in criminal matters arising out of “collusion with Russia,” as specified within the scope of Robert Mueller’s special prosecutor activities? For instance, the matter of CrowdStrike. The cybersecurity firm was co-founded by Russian ex-pat Dmitri Alperovitch, who also happens to be a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, an anti-Russian think tank funded by Ukrainian billionaire, Viktor Pinchuk, who donated at least $25 million to the Clinton Foundation before the 2016 election. Crowdstrike was the company that “examined” the supposedly hacked DNC servers, while somebody in the Obama administration prevented the FBI from ever seeing them. Does this sound a little like part of the origin story of RussiaGate? Is that not exactly the potential criminal matter that the current attorney general, Mr. Barr, is officially investigating?
Perhaps, under the year 2000 treaty, Mr. Trump was within his rights to ask the new President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, for assistance on that. And also, the question of former vice-president Joe Biden’s levering US aid to Ukraine in his demand to fire the prosecutor investigating the company, Burisma Holdings, that just happened to hire his son, Hunter, to a $64,000-a-month seat on the board of directors, not long after the younger Mr. Biden was kicked out of the US Navy reserve for cocaine use — what a sterling fellow!
The foregoing ought to be self-evident. Speaking of failures to pay attention, Director of National Security (DNI) Joseph McGuire testified in Rep. Adam Schiff’s House Intel Committee last Thursday that the “Whistleblower” and his or her allies in the Intelligence Community who fomented the latest crisis “acted in good faith.” Admiral McGuire omitted to mention that the IC’s Whistleblower complaint rules were surreptitiously changed sometime around August 2019 to allow second-hand hearsay in Urgent Matter” complaints, where formerly it had been prohibited. The change was only posted on an IC website on Sept 24. Did Admiral McGuire not get the memo on that? Was he out of the loop? After all, he is merely in charge of the entirety of US Intelligence operations. Who kept him in the dark?
Now there is yet another new “bombshell” out of the CBS 60-Minutes show (reported by Scott Pelley) alleging that the “Whistleblower” had been placed under federal protection due to “threats” made against him or her. We’re to infer that the “Whistleblower” is in a safe space— perhaps hiding out in the CIA’s Diversity and Inclusion offices, with some teddy bears, crayons, and chips ahoy to keep the heebie-jeebies away. Only, one of the “Whistleblower’s” own lawyers, Mark S. Zaid released a letter today saying that the 60-Minutes report was “not accurate and misinterpreted the contents of our [earlier] letter.” Mr. Zaid added in a tweet that CBS was “literally making stuff up.”
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Well, let CBS and the “Whistleblower’s” pro bono lawyers slug that one out in some safe space. More to the point, how long do you suppose the charade of protecting the “Whistleblower’s” identity will go on? If impeachment moves to a trial in the senate, Mr. Trump will enjoy the right of being faced by his accuser. But I don’t think we will have to wait that long. Rep. Schiff (D-CA) has already declared that this person will be called into a closed session of his committee. The chance is about zero that his or her identify will remain unknown. By and by, the “whistleblower’s” confederates in the CIA will also become known and the perfidy of this latest CIA operation in the ongoing coup will be understood.
UkraineGate is the equivalent of Fort Sumter in Civil War 2.0. Charges have been flying and tempers flaring for three years now, much as they did between 1858 and 1861. Once again, what seems to be at stake is the integrity of the Union. As in the previous enactment, one side is dangerously deluded, and that is liable to lead to its destruction.
Found this in the comments over there:
Speaking of "Civil War", the Left is freaking out over a tweet by a Pastor in Dallas, TX that POTUS retweeted:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463592-gop-lawmaker-calls-out-trump-for-quoting-pastor-warning-of-civil-war
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-civil-war-tweet-grounds-impeachment-1462044
Jewboo
30th September 2019, 11:27 AM
I don't know where you live, but it's always been obvious you want to see our country fall.
The sad part is, you might just get your wish. We are now in the midst of the great take down of America. The leftist elite are all in on this final coup, there's no turning back.
I believe we will see who emerges victorious by the 2020 election. Will it be Jewboo and his Satanic friends, or the American patriots.
Whoever disagrees with EE is "Satanic".
:rolleyes:
THESE FAT FUCKS (https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/04/23/my-time-in-the-dessert-with-a-recently-arrested-militia-leader/) will never actually DO anything let alone fight the USA Military in any so-called "civil war". Patriots.....................ha ha...............put down your bong EE.
:D
Amanda
30th September 2019, 11:46 AM
It all goes back to Crowdstrike ... Trump mentioning it in the call is was what triggered the deep state and criminal left.
Reposting this:
It’s Not About Biden – Deep State Response to Ukraine Call Now Makes Sense – Trump Questioned Crowdstrike… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/25/its-not-about-biden-deep-state-response-to-ukraine-call-now-makes-sense-trump-questioned-crowdstrike/)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/25/its-not-about-biden-deep-state-response-to-ukraine-call-now-makes-sense-trump-questioned-crowdstrike/
The completely over-the-top response by a Deep State embed whistleblower and his/her political allies within the administrative state now makes sense; it had nothing to do with Joe Biden. President Trump asked President Zelenskyy about “Crowdstrike.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/trump-convo-with-zelenskyy.jpg?w=640&h=311 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/trump-convo-with-zelenskyy.jpg)
(Page 3 – Source pdf) (https://www.scribd.com/document/427409969/Official-Transcript#from_embed)
To understand how important this is, we must remember the foundation for the entire Russian election interference narrative, ‘Muh Russia – writ large, is built on the claim Russians hacked the servers of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and subsequently released damaging emails that showed the DNC worked to help Hillary Clinton and eliminate Bernie Sanders.
Despite the Russian ‘hacking’ claim the DOJ and FBI previously admitted (https://youtu.be/M7kh2bZw5Ic) the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server or cloud-based network. Instead the original claim was that the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.
According to the original FBI statements made by James Comey (https://youtu.be/M7kh2bZw5Ic): Crowdstrike did the captured imaging of the DNC network (servers/cloud), then conducted analysis, then provided a report to the DNC with their findings; and that report was given to the FBI. At least that was the original 2017 claim. However, during court filings in the case against Roger Stone, the DOJ/FBI later admitted they never even saw (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/15/doj-admits-fbi-never-saw-crowdstrike-report-on-dnc-russian-hacking-claim/) the Crowstrike final report.
Lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission (https://www.scribd.com/document/413428947/Stone-De-123-DOJ-Response-to-MTC-Crowdstrike-Reports). Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server or cloud data, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the final Crowdstrike report
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'Ukraine-Gate' really all about the 'Russian hack' . . . . that wasn't (https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/25/ukraine-gate-is-about-the-russian-hack-that-wasnt/)
https://www.sott.net/article/421247-Ukraine-Gate-really-all-about-the-Russian-hack-that-wasn-t
President Trump asked the Ukrainian president about CrowdStrike, the politically connected cybersecurity firm that investigated the alleged Russian "hack" of the Democratic National Committee. Here's why that matters — and why it should not be ignored.
One of the animating chapters in the Trump-Russian collusion saga was the claim that Russia infiltrated the Democratic National Committee's email server in the spring of 2016. That hack, according to collusion truthers, and the subsequent release of damaging emails exchanged between top Democratic Party officials was central to Vladimir Putin's scheme to sway the presidential election in favor of Donald Trump.
But the evidence to support this widely accepted claim is sketchy at best and appears to be under appropriate scrutiny by prosecutors now examining the origins of the FBI's pre-election investigation into the Trump campaign for "colluding" with Russia.
According to the transcript of a July call between Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine's newly elected president, Trump raised the issue of "CrowdStrike" and suggested Ukraine might be in possession of the "server," a reference to the DNC server.
"I would like you to do us a favor," Trump said. "I would like you to find out what happened with the whole situation with Ukraine, with CrowdStrike. The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation."
To say the least.
CrowdStrike's Ties to Democrats
While lawmakers and pundits on the Left and NeverTrump Right breezed past Trump's mention of CrowdStrike — either out of subterfuge or ignorance — it is significant.
CrowdStrike is a cybersecurity firm with strong ties to the Democratic Party. After the DNC server was hacked in early 2016, Perkins Coie, a politically connected law firm, hired CrowdStrike on behalf of the DNC to find out who was behind the intrusion. (Perkins Coie is the same law firm that hired Fusion GPS on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign to dig up Russia-related dirt on Team Trump before the election.)
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Dmitri Alperovitch: CrowdStrike co-founder and fellow at a Washington think tank hawkish toward Russia.
That isn't the extent of CrowdStrike's dubious politica (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/01/06/dnc-russian-hacking-conclusion-comes-google-linked-firm/)l ties. Its co-founder, Moscow-born Dmitri Alperovitch, is associated (http://alperovitch/) with the Clinton Foundation; in 2015, CrowdStrike received $100 million in funding from Google whose chairman, Eric Schmidt, was a generous (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/01/06/dnc-russian-hacking-conclusion-comes-google-linked-firm/) supporter of Hillary Clinton. CrowdStrike's president is Shawn Henry, who headed up the FBI's cybercrimes division during the Obama Administration when Robert Mueller was director.
According to an October 2016 profile (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49902/the-russian-emigre-leading-the-fight-to-protect-america/) in Esquire, at the same time, the Obama Justice Department was concocting the Trump-Russia collusion ruse, Alperovitch and Henry were working with top Justice officials on cyber "war games." In March 2016 — as the DNC email system allegedly was compromised by the Russians — Alperovitch and Henry organized "four teams of ten people — representing the government, the private sector, European and Australian allies" for the exercise. (Another participant included a former member of GCHQ, the British intelligence agency working with former CIA Director John Brennan in 2016 on the Russian collusion scheme.)
Among the officials working with CrowdStrike on the exercise was John Carlin, Mueller's former chief of staff and then head of the Justice Department's national security division.https://www.sott.net/image/s26/539978/large/john_p_carlin_1.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s26/539978/full/john_p_carlin_1.jpg)
John Carlin, Loretta Lynch, Robert Mueller
Carlin facilitated (https://themarketswork.com/2018/05/21/john-carlin-the-former-nsd-head-who-enabled-the-fbis-carter-page-fisa-warrant/) the October 2016 FISA warrant for Trump campaign aide Carter Page; he also received (https://www.theepochtimes.com/spygate-the-inside-story-behind-the-alleged-plot-to-take-down-trump_2833074.html) regular briefings from then-deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe on both the Clinton email investigation and the Trump-Russia collusion probe. (Michael Atkinson, the intelligence community's inspector general at the center of the so-called whistleblower controversy, worked (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-atkinson-whistleblower-controversy-thrusts-little-known-trump-appointee-into-the-limelight/ar-AAHJHKq) directly for Carlin in 2016 and 2017.)
Probably just a coincidence, right?
Then, in June 2016 — around the same time Christopher Steele began compiling his anti-Trump dossier and James Comey's FBI was investigating Trump campaign aides — Alperovitch authored a report (https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/) that concluded hackers tied to the Kremlin were responsible for the DNC server breach.
"CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May 2016," he wrote.
Who Are You Going to Believe?
That report remains the only piece of evidence to support the claim that Putin apparatchiks stole thousands of emails from the Democrats just months before the presidential election. But the document isn't just part of political lore; it was legitimized both by the FBI and the CIA as the Obama Administration attempted to buttress its phony narrative about a conspiracy between Trump and Putin to steal the election from Hillary Clinton. The server, however, was never inspected by U.S. law enforcement or any other government agency.
In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee in June 2017, former FBI Director James Comey admitted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7kh2bZw5Ic) that the DNC refused to surrender the server to his agents.
Senator Richard Burr (R-N.C.): Did the FBI request access to those devices to perform forensics on them?
Comey: [coughs] Yes, we did.
Burr: Were you given access to do the forensics?
Comey: We were not. A highly respected private company got access and shared with us what they saw there.
When pressed by Burr, Comey admitted that the DNC denied "multiple" requests by the FBI for the device. "Ultimately it was agreed to that the private company [Crowdstrike] would share with us what they saw."
What a joke.
But Comey wasn't the only top Obama official to take the word of a company working for the very same law firm that also was coordinating the Steele dossier and planting negative news articles about Trump weeks before the election.
Former CIA Director John Brennan lifted much (https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/24/the-steele-dossier-has-been-discredited-is-the-ic-report-next/) of the CrowdStrike paper for his infamous January 2017 intelligence community assessment about Russian election interference. "Russia's intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties," the report claimed (https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf).
https://www.sott.net/image/s26/526462/large/1Former_CIA_director_John_Bren.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s26/526462/full/1Former_CIA_director_John_Bren.jpg)© The Counter Jihad Report
Former CIA director John Brennan: seminal role in Trump-Russia affair, and no Trump fan.
The CrowdStrike report even made an appearance in the Mueller investigation, specifically, its prosecution of Roger Stone. But when Stone's defense team wanted the unredacted forensic reports that supported CrowdStrike's conclusion, Team Mueller admitted they didn't have them because CrowdStrike performed the redactions in-house.
"In other words, the government allowed CrowdStrike and the Democratic Party's legal counsel to decide what it could and could not see in reports on Russian hacking," reported Real Clear Investigation's Aaron Mate in a lengthy exposé (https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_c ore_russia-meddling_claims.html) on CrowdStrike earlier this year. Mate questioned the government's reliance on a "potentially biased and politically conflicted source like CrowdStrike."
Bad Actors Exposed at Last?
Despite the latest outrage and hysteria over Trump's otherwise innocuous conversation with Zelensky, the president is not backing down. It's clear he is committed to exposing the bad actors behind the biggest political scandal in American history, which is how the world's most powerful law enforcement and intelligence apparatus was weaponized against him to sabotage his campaign and derail his presidency.
Trump has reason to believe Ukraine played some early, significant role in the hoax: As I reported (https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/23/bidens-real-foreign-election-interference-russiagate/) on Wednesday, Joe Biden, Obama's emissary to the country during the final years of his presidency, was a key figure in the collusion operation in 2016 and early 2017.
The Justice Department also confirmed that it is investigating Ukraine's involvement.
"A Department of Justice team led by U.S. Attorney John Durham is separately exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election," a department spokeswoman told (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/trump-asked-ukraine-president-to-help-with-doj-probe-of-2016-election-interference/) The Federalist this week.
Hunter Biden's shady business dealings in Ukraine aren't the only scandals Democrats have to worry about right now. Finally exposing all the fabricated elements of the Russia collusion hoax, including the CrowdStrike report, will be a far greater threat to their electoral chances in 2020.
EE_
30th September 2019, 11:47 AM
I've become a big fan of Pastor Jeffress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI5qUY-Wo0s
EE_
30th September 2019, 11:51 AM
Whoever disagrees with EE is "Satanic".
:rolleyes:
THESE FAT FUCKS (https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/04/23/my-time-in-the-dessert-with-a-recently-arrested-militia-leader/) will never actually DO anything let alone fight the USA Military in any so-called "civil war". Patriots.....................ha ha...............put down your bong EE.
:D
Don't get your panties in a bunch Jewboo, I still like you. I just learned to hit back like Trump :)
PS: for the record...do you hope to see our country fall? Yes, or No?
Amanda
30th September 2019, 11:53 AM
Seems like Durham is a key guy:
"A Department of Justice team led by U.S. Attorney John Durham is separately exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election," a department spokeswoman told (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/trump-asked-ukraine-president-to-help-with-doj-probe-of-2016-election-interference/) The Federalist this week.
I haven't heard anything about him, other than someone at zerohedge commenting that up north he was known as "slow walk" Durham. Sounds like he's actually doing something (better than that Huber fake appointed to look into all things Hillary, including Uranium One, but hasn't even contacted the Uranium One whistle-blower)
Jewboo
30th September 2019, 12:11 PM
PS: for the record...do you hope to see our country fall? Yes, or No?
A mature sober conclusion is that we actually failed back in 1945 by fighting Germany and, ever since, the jews have totally controlled "our country (https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=873&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=J06SXfaIMMTk-gTh0JtY&q=aipac+speakers&oq=aipac+speakers&gs_l=img.3..0i24l2.1183805.1188939..1189455...0.0. .0.163.1035.13j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67j0j0i8i30.WwBpG21ulu4&ved=0ahUKEwi2uLqIm_nkAhVEsp4KHWHoBgsQ4dUDCAY&uact=5)".
:rolleyes:
midnight rambler
30th September 2019, 12:15 PM
we actually failed back in 1945 by fighting Germany
WW Deuce was all about making the world safe for International Communism aka International Jewry.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 01:34 PM
Ron Paul Asks: "Impeachment... Or CIA Coup?"
by Tyler Durden (https://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Mon, 09/30/2019 -
Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity, (http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/)
You don’t need to be a supporter of President Trump to be concerned about the efforts to remove him from office. Last week House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced impeachment proceedings against the President over a phone call made to the President of Ukraine. According to the White House record of the call, the President asked his Ukrainian counterpart to look into whether there is any evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and then mentioned that a lot of people were talking about how former US Vice President Joe Biden stopped the prosecution of his son who was under investigation for corruption in Ukraine.
Democrats, who spent more than two years convinced that “Russiagate” would enable them to remove Trump from office only to have their hopes dashed by the Mueller Report, now believe they have their smoking gun in this phone call.
It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.
It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the US deep state.
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In August 2016, a former acting director of the CIA, Mike Morell, wrote an extraordinary article in the New York Times accusing Donald Trump of being an “agent of the Russian Federation.” Morell was clearly using his intelligence career as a way of bolstering his claim that Trump was a Russian spy – after all, the CIA should know such a thing! But the claim was a lie.
Former CIA director John Brennan accused President Trump of “treason” and of “being in the pocket of Putin” for meeting with the Russian president in Helsinki and accepting his word that Russia did not meddle in the US election. To this day there has yet to be any evidence presented that the Russian government did interfere. Brennan openly called on “patriotic” Republicans to act against this “traitor.”
Brennan and his deep state counterparts James Comey at the FBI and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper launched an operation, using what we now know is the fake Steele dossier, to spy on the Trump presidential campaign and even attempt to entrap Trump campaign employees.
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Notice a pattern here?
Now we hear that the latest trigger for impeachment is a CIA officer assigned to the White House who filed a “whistleblower” complaint against the president over something he heard from someone else that the president said in the Ukraine phone call.
Shockingly, according to multiple press reports the rules for CIA whistleblowing were recently changed, dropping the requirement that the whistleblower have direct, first-hand knowledge of the wrongdoing. Just before this complaint was filed, the rule-change allowed hearsay or second-hand information to be accepted. That seems strange.
As it turns out, the CIA “whistleblower” lurking around the White House got the important things wrong, as there was no quid pro quo discussed and there was no actual request to investigate Biden or his son.
The Democrats have suddenly come out in praise of whistleblowers – well not exactly. Pelosi still wants to prosecute actual whistleblower Ed Snowden. But she’s singing the praises of this fake CIA “whistleblower.”
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer once warned Trump that if “you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” It’s hard not to ask whether this is a genuine impeachment effort…or a CIA coup!
old steel
30th September 2019, 01:38 PM
So where is all this going to lead?
I've been involved in the patriot movement since Q started posting and from what i am seeing many patriots are tired of two years of no major arrests etc when Q has repeatedly stated "we have it all"
Lots of patriots have stopped following and are disgusted with the lack of progress, many have left.
If Trump doesn't start bringing down the hammer with authority on these treasonous evil bastards, he is going to fail and from where i am sitting it will be his own undoing.
The deep state is everywhere and totally entrenched but i can't see how using the system in it's current form is going to have any affect on them.
Martial law, roundup arrests and military tribunals now, or we lose.
The good guys need to bring out the guns, patriots will fall in line and this is how you defeat this monstrous evil.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 01:51 PM
Anyone hear anything about this?? Is it true??
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/09/30/john-brennan-went-to-ukraine-with-fake-passport/
Brennan Went to Ukraine with Fake Passport
Sep 30, 2019
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RUSH: I got an email, “What do you mean, Brennan traveled to Ukraine with a fake passport? (https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/09/30/everything-youre-hearing-about-impeachment-is-a-lie/) I didn’t hear that.” Well, folks, I’m sorry. Let me give you the details. John Brennan, Obama’s director-CIA, went to Ukraine under a fake passport so that nobody would know it was him. Fake name. Can you do that? Can you get a fake passport? No. John Brennan can, CIA director. I’m surprised he even needed a passport. But he went under a fake passport to get opposition research on Trump!
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/APP-093019-Brennan-Ukraine.jpg
The Obama administration originally lied about Brennan’s visit, but they were forced later to admit the report was true after evidence of Brennan’s visit emerged. This is that guy, John Brennan, who over the weekend encouraged every deep stater to come forward and blow the whistle on Trump. (summarized) “There is no limit on the number of individuals who can use the whistleblower statute. If you think you were involved in unlawful activity as a result of Trump, now is the time to report it!”
Is Brennan gonna pay all of you whistleblowers? Is he gonna pay for your protection? This is a former director of the CIA asking the deep state to rise en mass and start blowing the whistle on Trump with a bunch of made-up lies! This guy’s fingers are as dirty as anybody’s on the dossier, including McCain’s people. He traveled to Ukraine under a fake passport. The Obama regime denied it until the news was undeniable. Then they had to admit it.
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Originally Posted by EE- We are all suspicious now. I have to think this coup on our government is so big, that Barr does not want to risk getting caught up in it. Too many people are involved, do you think Barr will risk destroying his career, reputation and going to prison by covering it up? I think quite the opposite, this will be the cherry on his career, he will be famous and in the history books as the man that took down the biggest conspiracy in US history.
The IG Michael Horowitz is a different story, he is a swamp creature!
But it seems like the only ones who are going to jail are the people on Trump's side. Seems like if you are on the side of the deep state, then you get a pass, which is why nothing (so far) has happened to some of the coup plotters, including McCabe, Strozk, and Comey. (and I'm pretty sure that Bruce Ohr guy got a freaking bonus!!!) And even over at the treehouse, Sundance noted that it seem like Barr is more worried about protecting Rosenstein than getting to the origins of the plot against Trump.
Barr was (is) CIA and spent his entire career covering for the deep state/intelligence agencies, so it's a bit hard to believe he's going to change at this late date (Obviously, I hope he does and that he exposes the coup). But I worry b/c Barr and the DOJ have already started playing word games with Trump's order for him to declassify the Russia hoax documents and are now saying Trump passed the authority to Barr to decide IF anything SHOULD be declassified, so now opening the door to the possibility that none of the Russia Hoax (Coup Plot #1) will be declassified.
I worry that behind the scenes Horowitz and Barr are trying to figure out how to make it look like they are on Trump's side, while at the same time hiding all of this stuff.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 03:27 PM
Well, this sort of sounds promising, in that it kind of suggests deep state is getting panicked b/c maybe Durham and Barr really are getting somewhere in looking into the origins of Coup Plot #1/Russia Hoax (I hope this is the case--time will tell)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/30/deep-state-impeachment-team-racing-against-time-durham-and-barr-ny-times-aids-with-australian-narrative/#comments
Deep State Impeachment Team Racing Against Time, Durham and Barr – NY Times Aids With Australian Narrative… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/30/deep-state-impeachment-team-racing-against-time-durham-and-barr-ny-times-aids-with-australian-narrative/) Posted on September 30, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/30/deep-state-impeachment-team-racing-against-time-durham-and-barr-ny-times-aids-with-australian-narrative/) by sundance
(https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
It is becoming clear the principals connected to the 2016 weaponization of the intelligence apparatus, DOJ and FBI are increasingly concerned about U.S. Attorney John Durham and Attorney General Bill Barr looking at the origins of “Spygate” and the Trump-Russia narrative. Lawfare and their media outlets are leading their defensive-based offensive.
Remember, Stefan Halper (U.K.), Joseph Mifsud (Italy) and Alexander Downer (Australia) all played a key part in helping CIA Director John Brennan assemble his two-page Electronic Communication (EC) that initiated the FBI to start “Crossfire Hurricane.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/deep-state-plotters-crossfire-hurricane-scheme-team.jpg?w=640&h=360 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/deep-state-plotters-crossfire-hurricane-scheme-team.jpg)
All of the Obama-era officials (specifically those who weaponized government in 2016 to target their political opposition) are using the “IC anonymous whistleblower” approach in an attempt to paint any current inquiry as Trump weaponizing the investigation of their coup effort. Any effort by President Trump to expose the 2016 misconduct is now spun to be President Trump weaponizing his office to target his political opposition.
The latest visible example of the corrupt team anxiety surfaces via a counter-narrative in a New York Times article (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html) claiming President Trump asked Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison to assist AG Bill Barr and his 2016 review.
WASHINGTON (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html) — President Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent telephone call to help Attorney General William P. Barr gather information for a Justice Department inquiry that Mr. Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials with knowledge of the call.
The White House restricted access to the call’s transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/us/politics/intelligence-whistle-blower-complaint-trump.html?action=click&module=inline&pgtype=Article®ion=Footer) that is at the heart of House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/us/politics/democrats-impeachment-trump.html?module=inline) into Mr. Trump.
Like that call, the discussion with Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia shows the extent to which Mr. Trump sees the attorney general as a critical partner in his goal to show that the Mueller investigation had corrupt and partisan origins, and the extent that Mr. Trump sees the Justice Department inquiry as a potential way to gain leverage over America’s closest allies.
[…] President Trump initiated the discussion in recent weeks with Mr. Morrison explicitly for the purpose of requesting Australia’s help in the Justice Department review of the Russia investigation, according to the two people with knowledge of the discussion. Mr. Barr requested that Mr. Trump speak to Mr. Morrison, one of the people said.
[…] Mr. Barr flew to Italy last week and met with Italian government officials on Friday. The Justice Department spokeswoman would not say whether he discussed the election inquiry in those meetings, but former Justice Department officials said that Mr. Barr would need to ask foreign countries for cooperation in turning over documents pertaining to the 2016 election.
[…] The Justice Department said last week that it is exploring the extent to which other countries, including Ukraine, “played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign.” At the very least, Mr. Barr has made it clear that he sees his work treading into sensitive territory: how the law enforcement and intelligence agencies of the United States’ closest allies share information with American officials. (read more) (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html)
It’s obvious the people who ran these spy operations into the Trump campaign are nervous now. After years of denying spying; and after months of apoplectic pearl-clutching over AG Barr’s use of the word “spy”; even the New York Times finally had to admit (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/fbi-government-investigator-trump.html) in early August there was direct spying happening.
(lot more at the link)
monty
30th September 2019, 03:34 PM
I don't trust Barr either, and I agree WITH EE_ Horowitz is a swamp dweller.
Now if you want to finance your campaign.....
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2019/09/29/how-to-finance-your-congressional-campaign-with-arms-sales/
How to Finance Your Congressional Campaign with Arms Sales
The DC Ukraine Mafia 4.0
Running for Congress? Short on cash or donations? No need to worry. Now, you too can finance your entire campaign through Ukrainian arms dealers. Igor, for example, will even host the fundraising events in his $2+ million Washington DC brownstone (just one of several such houses he owns in the US). Igor will even provide the catering and valet parking free of charge.
Igor Pasternak luxury home in DC where in 2013 Adam Schiff had a fundraiser
Image 1: Igor Pasternak’s luxury home in DC where in 2013 Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi used Igor Pasternak to host and fundraise for Schiff’s congressional election
And the best part is that you never have to worry about paying him back for any of these favors, because it’s all absolutely free, no strings attached. After all, everyone knows that Ukrainian arms dealers float the election campaign of congressional candidates like Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, and Loretta Sanchez, because they are just so cuddly and lovable.
If you don’t buy any of this, then the following Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, and Alexandra Chalupa linkage below agrees with you.
Where is Igor
Image 2: Where is Igor? Using the Sentinel AI based face recognition to locate an arms dealer in a crowed of 500K people
Igor Pasternak
Image 3: How a Ukrainian arms dealer Igor Paternak floated Adam Schiff’s 2013 election to Congress and Paternak’s linkage to Nancy Pelosi Ukrainian influence network in the US.
Ukraine Intelligence Assets in US
Image 4: Notes from the desk of Yaroslav Brisiuck’s the Ukrainain Chargé d’affaires in Washington DC suggest that Alexandra Chalupa could be a long term Ukrainian intelligence asset
Alexandra Chalupa and Ukraine embassy in the US
Image 5: Alexandra Chalupa, Melanne Verveer, and Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur’s Ukraine linkages. Chalupa held multiple intelligence briefing and debriefing sessions regarding president Trump with Okana Shulyar and other Ukrainian embassy staff.
Alexandra Chalupa and Trump Impeachment
Image 6: Alexandra Chalupe with a small sampling of friends like Michael Avantti, Linda Sarsour, and Andrew McCabe, and their on-going activity to impeach president Trump
References
The Mechanics of Deception – The Network, Actors, and Genesis of the Steele Dossier
Gigapixel source: CNN Trump Inauguration
Where is Igor
Copyright Yaacov Apelbaum 2019
Amanda
30th September 2019, 03:51 PM
@Monty- yes, totally agree on Horowitz being a swamp dweller. And I think Barr is deep state too. The only one I don't know about is Durham.
Also, seems like the coup plotters already protected themselves, by somehow making it so that the National Security Division (coup central, where all the key players for Coup #1/Russia Hoax worked) was NOT under jurisdiction of the IG--so if this is the case (and it is) then how can the IG really get to the truth??? (sort of like the fix is in??)
https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts
Fact (9). Michael T. Atkinson, Inspector General for the DNI, who is handling the CIA whistleblower complaint against the President, previously worked for coup central at the Justice Department, the National Security Division. This is where the 2016-2017 coup operations against the Trump Campaign were launched, during the time he worked there. This entire division of the DOJ was removed from the jurisdiction of DOJ Inspector General Horowitz by former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Yet, it is at the center of the FISA abuse which Inspector General Horowitz is now investigating.
And Sundance points out the same thing about no oversight of NSD of DOJ:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/27/icig-whistleblower-form-recently-modified-to-permit-complaint-heard-from-others/
DOJ-NSD was purposefully under no IG oversight[/SIZE]. In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58 page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE (https://t.co/b2VmsRhQ42)) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, [I]except the NSD.]https://www.ignet.gov/sites/default/files/files/OLC%20IG%20Act%20Opinion%20-%207-20-15%20.pdf
Sundance has more info on Michael Atkinson (member of the tribe?????), the IGIC who is handling the fake whistleblower complaint:
Additionally, this coordinated effort ties back-in Intelligence Community Inspector General, Michael K Atkinson.
The center of the Lawfare Alliance influence was/is the Department of Justice National Security Division, DOJ-NSD. It was the DOJ-NSD running the Main Justice side of the 2016 operations to support Operation Crossfire Hurricane and FBI agent Peter Strzok. It was also the DOJ-NSD where the sketchy legal theories around FARA violations (Sec. 901) originated.
The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) is Michael K Atkinson. ICIG Atkinson is the official who accepted the ridiculous premise of a hearsay ‘whistle-blower‘ complaint; an intelligence whistleblower who was “blowing-the-whistle” based on second hand information of a phone call without any direct personal knowledge, ie ‘hearsay‘.
Michael K Atkinson was previously (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-announces-intent-nominate-personnel-key-administration-posts-9/) the Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice (DOJ-NSD) in 2016. That makes Atkinson senior legal counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord who were the former heads of the DOJ-NSD in 2016 when the stop Trump operation was underway.
Put another way, Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NSD players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer (https://www.scribd.com/doc/349542716)) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting.
Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse....
If the DOJ-NSD exploitation of the NSA database, and/or DOJ-NSD FISA abuse, and/or DOJ-NSD FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, current ICIG Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement.
Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Schiff/Lawfare impeachment objective.
Atkinson’s conflict-of-self-interest, and/or possible blackmail upon him by deep state actors who most certainly know his compromise, likely influenced his approach to this whistleblower complaint. That would explain why the Dept. of Justice Office of Legal Counsel so strongly rebuked Atkinson’s interpretation (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6429710-OLC-Opinion-Trump-Ukraine-Call.html) of his responsibility with the complaint.
In the Justice Department’s OLC opinion, they point out that Atkinson’s internal justification for accepting the whistleblower complaint was poor legal judgement. [See Here (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6429710-OLC-Opinion-Trump-Ukraine-Call.html)] I would say Atkinson’s decision is directly related to his own risk exposure
Jewboo
30th September 2019, 04:18 PM
Amanda
Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
(http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/)
Impeachment…or CIA Coup? (http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/)
Written by Ron Paul (http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/?author=Ron+Paul)
You don’t need to be a supporter of President Trump to be concerned about the efforts to remove him from office. Last week House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced impeachment proceedings against the President over a phone call made to the President of Ukraine. According to the White House record of the call, the President asked his Ukrainian counterpart to look into whether there is any evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and then mentioned that a lot of people were talking about how former US Vice President Joe Biden stopped the prosecution of his son who was under investigation for corruption in Ukraine.
Democrats, who spent more than two years convinced that “Russiagate” would enable them to remove Trump from office only to have their hopes dashed by the Mueller Report, now believe they have their smoking gun in this phone call.
It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.
It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the US deep state.
In August 2016, a former acting director of the CIA, Mike Morell, wrote an extraordinary article in the New York Times accusing Donald Trump of being an “agent of the Russian Federation.” Morell was clearly using his intelligence career as a way of bolstering his claim that Trump was a Russian spy – after all, the CIA should know such a thing! But the claim was a lie.
Former CIA director John Brennan accused President Trump of “treason” and of “being in the pocket of Putin” for meeting with the Russian president in Helsinki and accepting his word that Russia did not meddle in the US election. To this day there has yet to be any evidence presented that the Russian government did interfere. Brennan openly called on “patriotic” Republicans to act against this “traitor.”
Brennan and his deep state counterparts James Comey at the FBI and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper launched an operation, using what we now know is the fake Steele dossier, to spy on the Trump presidential campaign and even attempt to entrap Trump campaign employees.
Notice a pattern here?
Now we hear that the latest trigger for impeachment is a CIA officer assigned to the White House who filed a “whistleblower” complaint against the president over something he heard from someone else that the president said in the Ukraine phone call.
Shockingly, according to multiple press reports the rules for CIA whistleblowing were recently changed, dropping the requirement that the whistleblower have direct, first-hand knowledge of the wrongdoing. Just before this complaint was filed, the rule-change allowed hearsay or second-hand information to be accepted. That seems strange.
As it turns out, the CIA “whistleblower” lurking around the White House got the important things wrong, as there was no quid pro quo discussed and there was no actual request to investigate Biden or his son.
The Democrats have suddenly come out in praise of whistleblowers – well not exactly. Pelosi still wants to prosecute actual whistleblower Ed Snowden. But she’s singing the praises of this fake CIA “whistleblower.”
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer once warned Trump that if “you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” It’s hard not to ask whether this is a genuine impeachment effort…or a CIA coup!
:o Ron Paul was our god at GIM1 and this is why.
midnight rambler
30th September 2019, 04:22 PM
I don't trust Barr either, and I agree WITH EE_ Horowitz is a swamp dweller.
Now if you want to finance your campaign.....
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2019/09/29/how-to-finance-your-congressional-campaign-with-arms-sales/
How to Finance Your Congressional Campaign with Arms Sales
The DC Ukraine Mafia 4.0
Running for Congress? Short on cash or donations? No need to worry. Now, you too can finance your entire campaign through Ukrainian arms dealers. Igor, for example, will even host the fundraising events in his $2+ million Washington DC brownstone (just one of several such houses he owns in the US). Igor will even provide the catering and valet parking free of charge.
Igor Pasternak luxury home in DC where in 2013 Adam Schiff had a fundraiser
Image 1: Igor Pasternak’s luxury home in DC where in 2013 Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi used Igor Pasternak to host and fundraise for Schiff’s congressional election
And the best part is that you never have to worry about paying him back for any of these favors, because it’s all absolutely free, no strings attached. After all, everyone knows that Ukrainian arms dealers float the election campaign of congressional candidates like Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, and Loretta Sanchez, because they are just so cuddly and lovable.
If you don’t buy any of this, then the following Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, and Alexandra Chalupa linkage below agrees with you.
Where is Igor
Image 2: Where is Igor? Using the Sentinel AI based face recognition to locate an arms dealer in a crowed of 500K people
Igor Pasternak
Image 3: How a Ukrainian arms dealer Igor Paternak floated Adam Schiff’s 2013 election to Congress and Paternak’s linkage to Nancy Pelosi Ukrainian influence network in the US.
Ukraine Intelligence Assets in US
Image 4: Notes from the desk of Yaroslav Brisiuck’s the Ukrainain Chargé d’affaires in Washington DC suggest that Alexandra Chalupa could be a long term Ukrainian intelligence asset
Alexandra Chalupa and Ukraine embassy in the US
Image 5: Alexandra Chalupa, Melanne Verveer, and Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur’s Ukraine linkages. Chalupa held multiple intelligence briefing and debriefing sessions regarding president Trump with Okana Shulyar and other Ukrainian embassy staff.
Alexandra Chalupa and Trump Impeachment
Image 6: Alexandra Chalupe with a small sampling of friends like Michael Avantti, Linda Sarsour, and Andrew McCabe, and their on-going activity to impeach president Trump
References
The Mechanics of Deception – The Network, Actors, and Genesis of the Steele Dossier
Gigapixel source: CNN Trump Inauguration
Where is Igor
Copyright Yaacov Apelbaum 2019
Holy shit.
Jewboo
30th September 2019, 04:40 PM
If Trump doesn't start bringing down the hammer with authority on these treasonous evil bastards, he is going to fail and from where i am sitting it will be his own undoing...The good guys need to bring out the guns, patriots will fall in line and this is how you defeat this monstrous evil.
Wake up buddy. This is 2019 and not GIM1. So-called "Patriots" and their so-called "militias" are now a bunch of beer-drinking fat LARPERS (https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/04/23/my-time-in-the-dessert-with-a-recently-arrested-militia-leader/)*
:)
* Live Action Role Players
Amanda
30th September 2019, 04:50 PM
Alexandra Chalupa and Trump Impeachment
Image 6: Alexandra Chalupe with a small sampling of friends like Michael Avantti, Linda Sarsour, and Andrew McCabe, and their on-going activity to impeach president Trump
interesting that Avanatti was connected to these people too. I remember he was in photos of people connected to Dr. Chrissy FRAUD (liar about Kavanaugh). It's the same network of people over and over.
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Also, on Schiff:
In 2013 Ukrainian Igor Pasternak held two different fund raisers (http://politicalpartytime.org/search/Host/Igor%2520Pasternak/) for Schiff asking for contributions between $1,000 and $2,500 –http://politicalpartytime.org/search/Host/Igor%2520Pasternak/
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And this doesn't really belong but don't know where to put it:
Justice Department ends investigation of Tony Podesta, Vin Weber without charges (no surprise there, right??? obviously that whole thing was just for show and to create an illusion)
The lobbyists were being investigated for possibly violating foreign lobbying rules for work on a Ukrainian public relations campaign organized by Manafort
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-ends-investigation-tony-podesta-vin-weber-without-charges-n1058306
I heard the Podestas (in addition to being pedos) were basically involved in the same kind of thing that Manafort was (two tier justice system, over and over again)
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Also, according to larouchepac, their theory is that in addition to targeting Manafort for being connected to Trump, they also went after him b/c he (along with Trump) put reinstatement of Glass Steagall on the GOP platform.
they also say he was targeted b/c he continued to support the Ukranian guy the Ukraine Coup Plotters (Obama, Nuland, McInsane, Biden) were trying to get rid of:
Paul Manafort committed a cardinal sin when he continued to support Victor Yanukovich in Ukraine against the 2014 British/American/neo-nazi coup which installed a corrupt puppet government in that country as part of a regime change operation aimed directly at Vladimir Putin and Russia. Ever since, he has been targeted in the way that people get targeted by their weaknesses when they cross an arrogant imperial power.
So, basic lesson, don't cross the (((bankers))) or go against the (((empire)))
They add:
The pedestrian tax fraud and bank fraud charges implicate the types of things many in the D.C. lobbyist culture... numerous prominent Democratic Party lobbyists, including Tony Podesta, the brother of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, were involved in the same Ukrainian lobbying activities and similar scheme
..........
Ron Paul was our god at GIM1 and this is why.
yes, I wanted him to be my President too.
Jewboo
30th September 2019, 05:03 PM
So, basic lesson, don't cross the (((bankers))) or go against the (((empire)))
Trump's explicit campaign premise was that he was an independent wealthy goy billionaire who didn't need one single jew shekel and therefore can't be (((controlled))).
:)
monty
30th September 2019, 05:57 PM
yes, I wanted him to be my President too.
Me too.
In 2008 I organized a Ron Paul meet-up group. I went to the Nye County Nevada Republican caucus with the idea of getting selected as a delegate to the state convention. I volunteered to go to the county delegate meeting. At the county delegate meeting the organizers were going around suggesting, actually demanding we must support warmonger McCain. I was naive and didn’t realize how corrupt these people are. I managed to get selected to be a county delegate to the Nevada Republican convention without them knowing I was a Ron Paul supporter. At the state convention when the leadership realized that Ron Paul delegates outnumbered their man McCain they shut the convention down sine die without taking a vote. Later in the year the McCain people reconvened secretly and voted McCain as the Nevada candidate for the national convention.
Ron Paul was the peoples choice but McStain was selected.
Amanda
30th September 2019, 06:19 PM
Me too.
In 2008 I organized a Ron Paul meet-up group. I went to the Nye County Nevada Republican caucus with the idea of getting selected as a delegate to the state convention. I volunteered to go to the county delegate meeting. At the county delegate meeting the organizers were going around suggesting, actually demanding we must support warmonger McCain. I was naive and didn’t realize how corrupt these people are. I managed to get selected to be a county delegate to the Nevada Republican convention without them knowing I was a Ron Paul supporter. At the state convention when the leadership realized that Ron Paul delegates outnumbered their man McCain they shut the convention down sine die without taking a vote. Later in the year the McCain people reconvened secretly and voted McCain as the Nevada candidate for the national convention.
Ron Paul was the peoples choice but McStain was selected.
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Yes, I always knew they stole it from him. I think things have been rigged for a very long time. (Side note- I remember years ago on the conservativetreehouse, there were a bunch of people from Arizona chatting about McCain and they couldn't understand why McCain kept getting elected b/c they didn't know anyone who actually voted for him---I'm sure the machine rigging kept him in there.
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Okay, back to Ukraine and the Coup Part 2
Not that this guy matters, but Pieczenik is calling it out as a CIA coup and telling Trump it's his duty to fire the CIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il7FRYHj_TA (if he could stay another 4 years maybe he could work with people like Ray McGovern or Phil Giraldi and somehow doing something about the CIA)
On this next one, Pieczenik confirms the coup, and calls out Adam Schiff for being compromised due to taking $$$ from Ukranian arms dealer Pasternak and for being a PEDOPHILE!!!!!!!!! I heard rumors about this, but didn't really know what it was about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3naToXWe1JU
I saw a bunch of comments suggesting something about Standard Hotel??
Seriously sick people
EE_
30th September 2019, 07:54 PM
Trump's explicit campaign premise was that he was an independent wealthy goy billionaire who didn't need one single jew shekel and therefore can't be (((controlled))).
:)
Trump did say he didn't want any Jew money at the Jew convention, but that's because he didn't want it to look bad when he gave them what they wanted anyway. In return, they let him be president. Simple.
Trump has been dealing with Jews all his life, don't you think he knows exactly how the game is played?
old steel
30th September 2019, 09:19 PM
Wake up buddy. This is 2019 and not GIM1. So-called "Patriots" and their so-called "militias" are now a bunch of beer-drinking fat LARPERS (https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/04/23/my-time-in-the-dessert-with-a-recently-arrested-militia-leader/)*
:)
* Live Action Role Players
Militia's did fuck all when LaVoy Finicum was gunned down in cold blood by the mulatto's hired goons, i'm talking about real Patriots here.
Jewboo
1st October 2019, 07:32 AM
Militia's did fuck all when LaVoy Finicum was gunned down in cold blood by the mulatto's hired goons, i'm talking about real Patriots here.
Oh. Who might they be?
Amanda
1st October 2019, 11:47 AM
Some guy over at zerohedge said that apparently a lot of the info coming out is due to the hard work of Lee Stranahan:
How many times i wrote here that you should follow Lee Stranahan if you want to understand this whole Ukraine DNC Russiagate bullshit and why US hates Putin. Instead this MAGA cultist idiots believe Breitbart news which Bannon (the intelligence officer who liked to hang with Epstein) turned into zionist run fake opposition after Andrew's death.
This all is coming out because of Lee Stranahan's hard work
PS: All this cultist followers.... go fuck your self .YOu are not really MAGA. You are anti-MAGA. You are the reason why this takes so long and enormous effort for people like Lee to get through your fucking heads the reality and how you are being fooled--
I know Monty posted a video of of Lee and Kevin Shipp on Crowdsource the truth, and I definitely heard his name before, but didn't know he was one of the key people researching all of the DNC/Ukraine ties.
Anyway, here's Lee's youtube and twitter:
Here is his youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw)Deeper Than You Can Imagine: The Long History of Clinton / Biden / Ukraine Coup •Streamed live on Sep 25, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwattajm4w&t=4072s
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw)
Here is his twitter
https://twitter.com/stranahan
his site https://thepopulist.us/ (https://twitter.com/stranahan)
monty
1st October 2019, 01:17 PM
Some guy over at zerohedge said that apparently a lot of the info coming out is due to the hard work of Lee Stranahan:
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I know Monty posted a video of of Lee and Kevin Shipp on Crowdsource the truth, and I definitely heard his name before, but didn't know he was one of the key people researching all of the DNC/Ukraine ties.
Anyway, here's Lee's youtube and twitter:
Here is his youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw)Deeper Than You Can Imagine: The Long History of Clinton / Biden / Ukraine Coup •Streamed live on Sep 25, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwattajm4w&t=4072s
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw)
Here is his twitter
https://twitter.com/stranahan
his site https://thepopulist.us/ (https://twitter.com/stranahan)
Lee Stranahan has been on this Ukraine thing for almost three years that I know of.
He also does a lot of videos on Periscope.tv. He also has a patreon.com account but it is pricey $74.00/month.
I follow him on Twitter and listen to some of his periscope videos.
old steel
1st October 2019, 02:49 PM
Oh. Who might they be?
Some Patriots here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KWzoAUEpGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aupV_fUUzsc
monty
1st October 2019, 05:01 PM
Mittens Romney whose niece Ronna Romney McDaniel (https://truthbitsblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/ronna-romney-fired.jpg?w=845&h=450&crop=1) is chair of RNC has a former campaign advisor sitting on the board of the same Ukrainian gas company where Hunter Biden was being paid $50,000 per month.
HMM: Former Mitt Romney Adviser Sits on Board of Ukrainian Gas Company That Employed Hunter Biden - Big League Politics (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/hmm-former-mitt-romney-adviser-sits-on-board-of-ukrainian-gas-company-that-employed-hunter-biden/)
Yesterday, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) piled on President Donald Trump after rough transcripts were released of his July conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Romney folks note that he wants to be careful about prejudging impeachment bc he may be part of the process in Senate
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) September 25, 2019 (https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1176870045206511616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Trending: Shepard Smith Ordered to Stand Down After Feud with Tucker Carlson (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/shepard-smith-ordered-to-stand-down-after-feud-with-tucker-carlson/)
Romney is clearly more concerned with Trump’s innocuous diplomatic conversation than the potentially criminal actions of former Vice President Joe Biden, who bragged publicly about abusing his authority to get a prosecutor fired who was allegedly investigating a Ukrainian gas company employing his son.
Joe Biden brags about how he threatened to pull $1 billion in loan guarantees from Ukraine if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
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The prosecutor, who was fired, was leading a corruption investigation into a company that employed Biden's son, Hunter pic.twitter.com/xZd3vIMbuL (https://t.co/xZd3vIMbuL)
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 20, 2019 (https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1174910135421919232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Perhaps Romney doesn’t want to talk about Biden’s abhorrent behavior because of his inner circle’s ties to the same scandal (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/mitt_romney_adviser_sits_on_burisma_board_of_direc tors.html).
The American Thinker discovered the connections between a top adviser to Mitt Romney’s failed 2012 Presidential campaign and Burisma, the aforementioned Ukrainian firm that once paid Hunter Biden $50k a month for no apparent reason other than cronyism:
Mitt Romney’s national security advisor in his 2012 campaign — a career CIA spook who rose to its top levels — sits on the board of directors of Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company that formerly paid Hunter Biden $50k a month despite his complete lack of credentials or qualifications.
And it also an odd coincidence that Mitt has as CNN puts it “been a lone Republican voice expressing concern about President Donald Trump’s July phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump asked Ukraine’s President to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family.”
Joseph Cofer Black served as Mitt Romney’s special adviser, and has a long history of being embedded in the deep state apparatus that is at war with President Donald Trump.
The American Thinker elaborates on Black’s long career of working within the intelligence bureaucracy:
Mr. Black brought to this role his extensive background at the CIA, which he joined in 1974 and trained for covert operations. He rose rapidly through the ranks, becoming Director of the National Counterterrorism Center from 1999-2002. Coincidentally, this was the time in which Al Qaeda planned and carried out the 911 attack without hindrance from the counterintelligence apparatus of the intelligence community. But Black was not penalized, he failed upward, being appointed Ambassador at Large and Coordinator for Counter-terrorism by President George W. Bush in December 2002.
And in yet another amazing coincidence, Black was succeeded in his job as Director of the National Counterterrorism Center by John Brennan.
Cofer Black left the CIA in 2006 (does anyone ever completely leave the CIA after being a spook?) to join Blackwater, the huge contractor for services related to military and intelligence action, where he served as vice chairman until 2008.
Fast forward to February 2017, when Black joined the board of directors of Burisma (https://burisma-group.com/eng/board-of-directors/), 6 months after the departure (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/peter-schweizer-biden-familys-foreign-dealings-7-essential-facts) of Hunter Biden.
With close associates such as Black, it is no wonder why Romney is so doggedly opposed to President Trump. Romney is controlled by the deep state, and will go along with their narratives no matter how absurd they become.
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Amanda
2nd October 2019, 05:50 AM
I'm starting to feel slightly hopeful about Barr and Durham, since it seems like maybe they are finally doing something (like going to Italy--but what took so long?? still looks like they purposefully dragged their feet), and now the left is actually starting to look panicked. But I'll believe in Barr when I actually see the documents from Coup #1 get exposed and when the coup plotters actually go to jail. I still say they should have declassified all of this stuff and made it public, as soon as Mueller said he was finished (as soon as the Clinton Lawyer investigation was over)
Stephen Miller: “The Deep State is Terrified of Being Exposed”… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/01/stephen-miller-the-deep-state-is-terrified-of-being-exposed/) Posted on October 1, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/01/stephen-miller-the-deep-state-is-terrified-of-being-exposed/) by sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
White House Senior Policy Adviser, Stephan Miller, appears on Fox Business with Lou Dobbs to explain the apoplexy coming from DC’s administrative state. Miller outlines the deep fear held by many in the professional political class in/around DC toward ongoing investigations by U.S. AG Bill Barr and U.S. Attorney John Durham.
In framing the opposition to the Trump administration, Mr. Miller identifies the Marxist roots that bind governmental ideologues in united resistance. Impeachment is their best hope of defense. (video with Lou at the link)
Good for Trump in calling it a COUP!! https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/01/president-trump-uses-the-c-word/
And there's this:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/01/confirmation-bill-barr-and-john-durham-listened-to-mifsud-audio-tape-deposition-in-italy/
Confirmation – Bill Barr and John Durham Listened to Mifsud Audio-Tape Deposition in Italy… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/01/confirmation-bill-barr-and-john-durham-listened-to-mifsud-audio-tape-deposition-in-italy/) Posted on October 1, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/01/confirmation-bill-barr-and-john-durham-listened-to-mifsud-audio-tape-deposition-in-italy/) by sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
When reports first surfaced that AG Bill Barr had traveled to Italy recently, we surmised the trip was likely related to Joseph Mifsud; specifically related to an audio-taped deposition (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/28/attorney-general-bill-barr-visits-italy-on-official-business-remember-that-audio-tape-deposition-by-joseph-mifsud/) that Mifsud gave to Italian police about being a western intelligence asset who was enlisted by the CIA (Brennan) to run a covert intelligence operation against the Donald Trump campaign in 2016.
If accurate, well, there’s the motive for the latest “CIA whistle-blower” approach.
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So, I guess time will tell on Barr and whether he comes through (but again, what took so long??). Also in watching some of the Fox shows last night, and seeing segments from the MSDNC and the ClintonNewsNetwork, it does look like they are worried about Barr b/c now they are going on the attack.
Things are going to get interesting b/c if the truth comes out, and the Russia Hoax/Coup #1 gets exposed, then this exposes the Democrats for being absolute corrupt lying psychopaths who will do anything for power, and it will expose the FBI and CIA for being so corrupt and anti-American that they were willing to take out a President, and it will expose the entire left- wing media as complete and total propaganda tools for the left. I think they are all going to fight like hell to keep this from being exposed. Right now, it's like Americans are living in two different realities, with those of us who know this is a coup, and the brainwashed left (who are IMPOSSIBLE to wake up)
Amanda
2nd October 2019, 07:16 AM
Trump: "We're At War, These People Are Sick"https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-were-war-these-people-are-sick
“As I learn more and more each day, I am coming to the conclusion that what is taking place is not an impeachment, it is a COUP, intended to take away the Power of the People, their VOTE, their Freedoms, their Second Amendment, Religion, Military, Border Wall, and their God-given rights as a Citizen of The United States of America!” tweeted Trump.
During separate comments that were made at a reception in New York City after the United Nations General Assembly, Trump also made clear that he was on a war footing.
Democrats have become so unhinged in their efforts to remove Trump from office, Rep. Maxine Waters demanded that Trump not just be arrested, but placed in solitary confinement.
“I’m calling on the GOP to stop Trump’s filthy talk of whistleblowers being spies & using mob language implying they should be killed. Impeachment is not good enough for Trump. He needs to be imprisoned & placed in solitary confinement,” she said.
“We’re at war. These people are sick, they’re sick and nobody’s called it out like I do. I don’t understand, people are afraid to call it out, they are afraid to say that the press is crooked, we have a crooked press, we have a dishonest media,” said Trump.
Amanda
2nd October 2019, 07:21 AM
CIA, climate and conspiracy: more notes from the edge of the narrative matrix (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/cia-climate-and-conspiracy-more-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix-8156bd1db9cb)
https://www.sott.net/article/421331-CIA-climate-and-conspiracy-more-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix
Don't agree with everything she says but definitely agree with this:
Take off the revolutionary's mask, and it's the CIA.
Take off the terrorist's mask, and it's the CIA.
Take off the news man's mask, and it's the CIA.
Take off the filmmaker's mask, and it's the CIA.
Take off the professor's mask, and it's the CIA.
Take off the billionaire's mask, and it's the CIA.
Take off the whistleblower's mask, and it's the motherfucking CIA.
These monsters are raping our sensemaking faculties.
Never call anyone from the CIA a "whistleblower" unless they are actually whistleblowing on the CIA, without the CIA's permission, in a way that inconveniences the CIA.
Jewboo
2nd October 2019, 09:19 AM
Things are going to get interesting b/c if the truth comes out, and the Russia Hoax/Coup #1 gets exposed, then this exposes the Democrats for being absolute corrupt lying psychopaths who will do anything for power, and it will expose the FBI and CIA for being so corrupt and anti-American that they were willing to take out a President, and it will expose the entire left- wing media as complete and total propaganda tools for the left. I think they are all going to fight like hell to keep this from being exposed. Right now, it's like Americans are living in two different realities, with those of us who know this is a coup, and the brainwashed left (who are IMPOSSIBLE to wake up)
All three are already exposed because WE ourselves can see with our own eyes these obvious Realities.
The "right" is just as (((brainwashed))) (http://birthofanewearthblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Media-Ownership-2.png) as the left and also now impossible to wake up.
:(??
Amanda
2nd October 2019, 12:44 PM
Totally agree w/Trump here--I bet Schiff did write it (it's obviously written by lawyers)
Schiff And NYT Do Damage Control Over Sneak Peek At CIA Whistleblower Complaint; Trump Says Schiff Wrote It
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schiff-and-nyt-do-damage-control-over-sneak-peek-cia-whistleblower-complaint-trump-says
While President Trump is now accusing Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) of 'helping to write' a CIA whistleblower's complaint at the heart of an impeachment inquiry, the New York Times is out with a Wednesday article designed to put distance between the House Intelligence Committee Chairman and the accusation - suggesting Schiff had no more than a vague sneak peek.
As The Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/politics/adam-schiff-whistleblower.html) reports, "The Democratic head of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, learned about the outlines of a C.I.A. officer’s concerns that President Trump had abused his power days before the officer filed a whistle-blower complaint (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html?module=inline)," adding "the original accusation was vague," and "The aide did not share the whistle-blower’s identity with Mr. Schiff or anyone else."
So - according to the Times, Schiff kinda sorta knew what the whistleblower said, and a House Intel Committee aide told him (or her) to get an attorney - Andrew Bakaj - who "interned for Schumer in the spring of 2001 and for Clinton in the fall of the same year," per The Federalist (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/attorney-for-anti-trump-whistleblower-worked-for-hillary-clinton-chuck-schumer/).
The Times goes to great lengths to explain that nothing was untwoard.
"Like other whistle-blowers have done before and since under Republican and Democratic-controlled committees, the whistle-blower contacted the committee for guidance on how to report possible wrongdoing within the jurisdiction of the intelligence community," said Schiff spokesman Patrick Boland.
Lee Zeldin ✔ @RepLeeZeldin (https://twitter.com/RepLeeZeldin)Shocker (not really)...@RepAdamSchiff (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff) knew the whistleblower’s allegations before the whistleblower’s atty & before there was a whistleblower complaint. No surprise who told this person to be a whistleblower, hire an atty & file a complaint w no 1st hand knowledge. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1179457662414675968 … (https://t.co/yeg2lwOagV)
Trump, meanwhile, is gunning for Schiff.
On Wednesday, Mr. Trump said Mr. Schiff should be forced to resign for reading a parody of the Ukraine call at a hearing, an act Mr. Trump has called treasonous and criminal.
“We don’t call him shifty Schiff for nothing,” said Mr. Trump. “He’s a shifty dishonest guy.”
Mr. Schiff’s aides followed procedures involving the C.I.A. officer’s accusations, Mr. Boland said. They referred the C.I.A. officer to the inspector general for the intelligence community, Michael Atkinson, and advised him to seek legal counsel.
Mr. Schiff never saw the full complaint or knew precisely what the whistle-blower would deliver to Mr. Atkinson, Mr. Boland said. -NYT
GOP spokeswoman Elizabeth Harrington, meanwhile, responded to the Times' article - calling the whistleblower saga 'COLLUSION' and a 'CON JOB' in a Wednesday afternoon tweet.
Elizabeth Harrington ✔ @LizRNC (https://twitter.com/LizRNC)COLLUSION Disgraced liar Adam Schiff's committee directed the so-called "whistle-blower" to get a lawyer before he filed the complaint Who did they hire? A Joe Biden donor, Schumer and Clinton attorney! Total CON JOB
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1134487622238310406/97OlLJpT_normal.png (https://twitter.com/LizRNC) Elizabeth Harrington ✔ @LizRNC
(https://twitter.com/LizRNC)
"The whistle-blower’s decision to offer what amounted to an early warning to the intelligence committee’s Democrats is also sure to thrust Mr. Schiff even more forcefully into the center of the controversy."
Ya think?! Yes, people should take CIA coup attempts very seriously!
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Thought this comment at zerohedge was interesting:
Maybe the report of Trump's conversation with Zelensky came not from WH sources but from Ukraine.. where Schiff has deep contacts.
Schiff geed up the Intel committee and the CIA
Amanda
2nd October 2019, 02:14 PM
Solomon Hits Back With Receipts After MSM Denies DNC-Ukraine Collusion Attempt In 2016
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/solomon-hits-back-receipts-after-msm-denies-dnc-ukraine-collusion-attempt-2016
While Democrats scramble to accuse President Trump of attempting to interfere with the 2020 US election by asking Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, the MSM has been hard at work trying to discredit proof that a DNC contractor begged Ukraine for 'dirt' on the Trump campaign in 2016.
You know, election meddling.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/trump%20clinton.jpg
As detailed in a 2017 Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446) report that MSNBC's Katy Tur called Russian propaganda last week, DNC contractor and former Bill Clinton White House employee Alexandra Chalupa approached the Ukrainian embassy to solicit 'dirt' on the Trump campaign, and convince then-president Petro Poroshenko to help.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/chalupa.png
Now watch MSNBC's Katy Tur called this "Russian propaganda."
Trump War Room ✔ @TrumpWarRoom (https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweete mbed%7Ctwterm%5E1177650224724099073&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitica l%2Fsolomon-hits-back-receipts-after-msm-denies-dnc-ukraine-collusion-attempt-2016)This is stunning. Watch @MSNBC (https://twitter.com/MSNBC)'s @KatyTurNBC (https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC) deny Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election and call a @Politico (https://twitter.com/politico) report authored by @kenvogel (https://twitter.com/kenvogel) "Russian propaganda." https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446 … (https://t.co/Zx2FoMm1RU)
As reported by The Hill (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/441892-ukrainian-embassy-confirms-dnc-contractor-solicited-trump-dirt-in-2016)'s John Solomon in May, "In its most detailed account yet, the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington says a Democratic National Committee (DNC) insider during the 2016 election solicited dirt on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman and even tried to enlist the country's president to help."
In written answers to questions, Ambassador Valeriy Chaly's office says DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government on Paul Manafort (https://thehill.com/people/paul-manafort)’s dealings inside the country in hopes of forcing the issue before Congress.
Chalupa later tried to arrange for Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to comment on Manafort’s Russian ties on a U.S. visit during the 2016 campaign, the ambassador said.
Chaly says that, at the time of the contacts in 2016, the embassy knew Chalupa primarily as a Ukrainian American activist and learned only later of her ties to the DNC. He says the embassy considered her requests an inappropriate solicitation of interference in the U.S. election. -The Hill (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/441892-ukrainian-embassy-confirms-dnc-contractor-solicited-trump-dirt-in-2016)
Appearing on Fox News' "Hannity" on Tuesday, Solomon pushes back:
Let's start with something that's important about this. There is a media narrative that is false. How do we know it's false? Because the documents I possess show it's false. So let's start with one of my favorites - this was Katy Tur on Friday night and many others across the weekend said "there is no evidence that the Ukraine Embassy was ever asked for help - to help the Democratic National Committee. In fact, Katy Tur called it Russian propaganda."
"I have a statement from the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington. On the record, from their sitting Ambassador in Washington, that in fact Alexandra Chalupa - the DNC contractor, came to the Ukraine embassy in spring 2016 and asked for help in finding dirt on Donald Trump in the hopes of staging a Congressional hearing to hurt Donald Trump in the fall election of 2016. That is the Ukraine Embassy's on the record statement."
In addition, they state that Ms. Chalupa also asked for the Ukraine President to visit the United States and spend time with an investigative reporter trying to turn up dirt on Donald Trump and Paul Manafort. What did the Embassy do? They say they recognized this request for what it was; an improper request to influence the election, and they refused to cooperate with Ms. Chalupa."
Watch: 11:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzJtnxuwDtI
Amanda
3rd October 2019, 10:28 AM
Well, I've been listening to those guys at the Duran on the Ukrainegate Coup and it seems like they are saying some interesting things that seem to match up with what the larouchies are saying. Looks like at least some of the info on Manafort that caused him to be targeted was actually made up (seems like that's all they do these days is make stuff up, and they know they can get away with it b/c the lying whore media always covers for them)
Now, in this one from the Duran guys, at 3:00 he gets into what happened with Manafort. Seems to be saying "these people" in the US (I think the Chalupas w/DNC) were involved with the targeting of Manafort, they encouraged Ukrainian officials to come up with the "black book" of allegations against Manafort, who worked in Ukraine prior to the coup. They say pre-coup Manafort was actually trying to get the Russians out of Ukraine and to get Ukraine to make a deal with the EU (so that goes against him working for the best interest of Russia). This "black book" was used to discredit Manafort and get him to resign from the Trump campaign, and somehow was supposedly one of the parts of the collusion narrative saying that Manafort took bribes from pro-Russian Oligarchs. The Duran guys say it is widely acknowledged that this "black book" is a concoction and unreliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF3clwUGu0&t=197s
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NWF3clwUGu0/maxresdefault.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF3clwUGu0&t=197s)
Ukrainegate hoax tries to stop Barr & Durham from investigating Russiagate - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF3clwUGu0&t=197s)
The Duran Quick Take: Episode 320. The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and Editor-in-Chief Alexander Mercouris discuss confirmation that U.S. Attorney John Durham has been tasked by the DOJ to ...
www.youtube.com (http://www.youtube.com)
Now it looks like the larouchies are also saying this about the black book:
https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts
fact (6). The case at hand. Rudy Giuliani, the President’s lawyer, by his account, was approached by a very prominent investigator and was told details about the Ukrainian involvement in the coup against Trump. Again, we have covered this extensively in our dossiers. It involves the Chalupas: Alexandra, who worked for Hillary and the DNC, Irene, a long time operative of the State Department’s propaganda bureaus, and Andrea, Alexandra’s sister who works primarily on digital operations for the most vile anti-Russian and extremist portions of the Ukrainian diaspora. They worked with the U.S. Ambassador and the Ukrainian embassy to develop the smears on Paul Manafort which led to the opening of his criminal case. That case, originally, involved a forged document, called the black ledger, allegedly showing cash payments received by Manafort from the deposed Yanukovych government. Nellie Ohr, in developing her profile for Russiagate, working for Fusion GPS, relied heavily on Ukrainian intelligence sources. As enticing, when the roll call for the people involved in the illegal foreign attack on Trump’s presidential campaign is made, you find a complete overlap with the main actors in the 2014 Ukraine regime change operation: Christopher Steele, Sir Richard Dearlove, Stefan Halper, George Soros, very prominently, Dmitri Alperovitch, Victoria Nuland, Jon Winer, Andrew McCabe, James Comey, John McCain, David Kramer, Fusion GPS, Nellie Ohr, various London based former Russian oligarchs, Bill Browder, ---the whole crew and the list could go on. Now, who has said this previously about this overlap? The LaRouche movement and only the LaRouche movement. We said it when we saw the Womens’ March in January of 2017 and wrote an EIR pamphlet about it; we said it way back in May of 2017 when we wrote the longer piece called The Insurrection Against the President, Or, Who Really is George Soros, Anyway?
Amanda
3rd October 2019, 10:49 AM
During the Obama era, whistleblowers were outed and viciously prosecuted, including US Army whistleblower Chelsea Manning, NSA whistleblowers Edward Snowden and Thomas Drake, and CIA whistleblowers John Kiriakou, and Jeffrey Sterling. I don’t recall anyone on the Left showing any interest in helping these people…..”
Patrick J. McShay, Crooked Joe, Illegal Surveillance, and the FBI Cover-uphttps://jamesfetzer.org/2019/10/patrick-j-mcshay-crooked-joe-illegal-surveillance-and-the-fbi-cover-up/
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“… This entire “whistleblower” hoax has been masterfully orchestrated by a combination of deep state intelligence players, left-wing media hacks and Democrat legislators. They are all playing their roles as crisis actors, feigning outrage over a non-crime “crime,” even resorting to completely fictionalizing a whole new “transcript” of what they hope Trump said (https://summit.news/2019/09/30/rush-limbaugh-america-is-in-a-cold-civil-war/) on a phone call with Ukraine’s President (which Adam Schiff read into the congressional record a few days ago to try to gaslight the entire nation about what Trump really said). ….”
Mike Adams, Did Adam Schiff pull a Jussie Smollett and FABRICATE the existence of the whistleblower? https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/10/mike-adams-did-adam-schiff-pull-a-jussie-smollett-and-fabricate-the-existence-of-the-whistleblower/
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“… Vanity Fair reported (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/democrats-pave-the-way-to-impeach-donald-trump) as far back as December 2016: “Democrats are paving the way to impeach Donald Trump.”
NewsBusters released a video montage (https://twitter.com/newsbusters/status/1178836751433027585?s=20) depicting media figures discussing the possibility impeaching Trump as early as November 2016. ….”
Michael Dorstewitz, 9 Reasons Why Impeachment Is a Fraud
https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/10/michael-dorstewitz-9-reasons-why-impeachment-is-a-fraud/ (https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/10/michael-dorstewitz-9-reasons-why-impeachment-is-a-fraud/)
Amanda
3rd October 2019, 02:41 PM
Thought this (point b) was VERY INTERESTING:
The “Whistleblower Complaint” Is an Orchestration Not in Compliance with Whistleblower Law By Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52327.htmThis has come to me from a knowledgeable source:
1—-The statute allowing such complaints is 50 USC sec. 3033. Read it for yourself.
a–The statute requires the complaint to involve “intelligence activity”. The “intelligence activity whistle blower complaint” we have been talking about has nothing to do with “intelligence activity” as legally required by the statute. Since this complaint was filed, accepted and treated as legitimate, was the drafting, filing, and handling of this particular “intelligence activity whistle blower complaint” a political act rather than whistle blowing?
b–Under the statute the whistle blowing must concern either a person or activity that is under the authority of the Director of National Intelligence. One cannot use this statute to whistle blow to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, a subordinate official of the DNI, on anything that the DNI has no authority over. In other words, nothing in the statute allows an “intelligence activity whistleblower” complaint to be made concerning the president or his phone calls. Such matters are not supervised by the DNI and are outside the jurisdiction of this statute. The acceptance of this complaint by the IG was improper under the clear language of the statute. The same would be true about complaints regarding other government activities under the authority of other government agencies or branches.
Conclusion? If the complaint was improper under the statute, it was improperly filed, improperly accepted, and the filer was not even a whistleblower as defined in the statute. How and why did this happen? Who drafted the complaint? Surely not the “whistleblower” alone. Did members of the national security establishment and/or members of Congress assist? If this can be shown, then shouldn’t this be considered a political complaint drafted to support impeachment proceedings and to divert our attention from upcoming events. If demonstrated to be true, this will be seen by many Americans as an attempted coup against a president elected under the procedures outlined in our the constitution.
Forget Trump—this is about the unity of our country and our democracy—or what’s left of it. The demand that Trump be impeached is so intense within the Democratic Party that even early doubters like Tulsi Gabbard have been forced to toe the line. Fasten your seat belts, I suspect this will get very nasty.
2—There is a Clinton era treaty with Ukraine signed in 2000 I did not know existed which seems to authorize the very conversation Trump was having with the President of Ukraine. Here is the treaty language:
Article 1 that “[t]he Contracting States shall provide mutual assistance, in accordance with the provisions of this Treaty, in connection with the investigation, prosecution, and prevention of offenses, and in proceedings related to criminal matters.”
3—This has harmed the standing of Zelensky. When this became public, Zelensky was involved in intense negotiations with Russia in hopes of ending the war in the Donbass and improving Ukrainian/Russian relations. Was part of the motivation for the filing this complainan effort to derail those negotiations? In other words, was the filing of this complaint triggered more by fears on the part of the US deep state that Zelensky’s may actually make peace with Russian rather than constitutional concerns or fear of cutting military aid to Ukraine? In other words, was the CIA/MIC afraid that peace might break out? BTW—as another e-mail will show, this entire debacle has been politically damaging to Zelensky. This is yet another serious consequence.
midnight rambler
3rd October 2019, 03:44 PM
Why won't this link hyperlink?? ???
ETA: now it is, how odd.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52327.htm
monty
4th October 2019, 08:09 AM
Left wing groups tied to fake whistleblower report
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/03/nonpartisan-group-aiding-lawyers-for-whistleblower-tied-to-democrats-far-left-organizations/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/03/nonpartisan-group-aiding-lawyers-for-whistleblower-tied-to-democrats-far-left-organizations/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)
“Common funding schemes”
Whistleblower Aid’s ties to Soros funding and far-left groups furthers a theme of such organizations being closely linked to numerous aspects of the so-called whistleblower’s complaint.
Some of those common threads run through an organization repeatedly relied upon in the so-called whistleblower’s complaint and are tied to CrowdStrike, the outside firm utilized to conclude that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee’s servers since the DNC would not allow the U.S. government to inspect the servers.
CrowdStrike founder Dmitri Alperovitch is a nonresident senior fellow (http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/experts/list/dmitri-alperovitch) of the Cyber Statecraft Initiative at the Atlantic Council.
The Atlantic Council is funded (https://www.breitbart.com/) by and works in partnership with Burisma, the natural gas company at the center of allegations regarding Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
Breitbart News reported (http://gold-silver.us/forum/safari-reader://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/01/adam-schiffs-office-denies-conflict-of-interest-for-staffer-on-think-tank-backed-by-ukraine-gas-company/amp/) that a staffer for Rep. Adam Schiff’s House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence took a trip to Ukraine last month sponsored and organized by the Atlantic Council think tank. Schiff’s office denied any impropriety.
The Schiff staff member, Thomas Eager, is also currently a fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Congressional Fellowship. Burisma in January 2017 signed (https://burisma-group.com/eng/news/the-atlantic-council-of-the-united-states-and-burisma-group-sign-cooperative-agreement/) a “cooperative agreement” with the Council to sponsor the organization’s Eurasia Center.
Besides Burisma funding, the Council is also financed by Google as well as Soros’s Open Society Foundations, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Inc. and the U.S. State Department.
Google Capital also led a $100 million funding drive that financed Crowdstrike directly.
Google, Soros’s Open Society Foundations, the Rockefeller Fund and an agency of the State Department each also finance a self-described investigative journalism organization repeatedly referenced as a source of information in the so-called whistleblower’s complaint alleging Trump was “using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country” in the 2020 presidential race.
Amanda
4th October 2019, 09:53 AM
More on "whistleblower" connections here:
https://larouchepac.com/20190927/concerning-coup-against-trump-some-plain-facts
Fact (10). The “Whistleblower” is a client of lawyers associated with Compass Inc., which put out widespread ads on billboards and in leaflets in Washington, D.C., that they would represent intelligence community leakers (whistleblowers) against Trump for purposes of impeachment and financially support them while doing so. As Bill Binney noted, the complaint is almost entirely hearsay. It is composed of second hand gossip and news clips and strung together by lawyers. The Inspector General Atkinson is forced to admit that there is some evidence that the man identified by the New York Times as a CIA officer, is politically biased.
******
Thought this was interesting:
Matt Whittaker filed 8/2017 complaint w/FED on DNC/Chalupa getting assistance from Ukrainians during election
Rosie memos @almostjingo (https://twitter.com/almostjingo)
Holy sh*t in August 2017 a complaint was filed with FEC about DNC and Chalupa accepting assistance from Ukrainian foreign nationals during election. It was filed by.. Mathew Whitaker
https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1179968814189953024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1179968814189953024&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com %2F2019%2F10%2F04%2Foctober-4th-2019-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-988%2F
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/65db76_0f5023e8f1e84ade94fd538bb4c2b3a9.pdf
And this:
Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
BREAKING: The whistleblower is a registered Democrat & CIA analyst who was detailed before the 2016 election to the Obama White House,where he worked on the NSC's Ukraine desk & met w anti-Trump Ukrainian officials before being sent packing by the Trump NSC & becoming disgruntled
Amanda
5th October 2019, 04:54 PM
I'm only a couple of minutes in, but thought it was interesting that Beck glossed over a key detail in this thing--he mentions that in 2014 that a new govt came into power in Ukraine, but failed to mention that it was a US/NeoCon COUP. I'm still going to listen more b/c it does look like he gets to the whole issues of the missing IMF money.
monty
5th October 2019, 05:31 PM
I'm only a couple of minutes in, but thought it was interesting that Beck glossed over a key detail in this thing--he mentions that in 2014 that a new govt came into power in Ukraine, but failed to mention that it was a US/NeoCon COUP. I'm still going to listen more b/c it does look like he gets to the whole issues of the missing IMF money.
I was wrong on Stranahan telling his info was good. He just did a periscope telling all the reasons he doesn’t like Glenn Beck, and tha Beck was wrong say Andrea Chalupa got Paul Manafort into the Trump campaign.
monty
5th October 2019, 05:37 PM
Watch @stranahan's broadcast: My Final Word on @GlennBeck...for now
https://www.pscp.tv/w/cGkugTFxTFFHVldWRHZyRUp8MXZBeFJxbUJXQVpKbLWueocPq1 DzrXxKQpl84A6DTxrmE-H6mi7474cos8pT
Amanda
5th October 2019, 07:03 PM
Watch @stranahan's broadcast: My Final Word on @GlennBeck...for now
https://www.pscp.tv/w/cGkugTFxTFFHVldWRHZyRUp8MXZBeFJxbUJXQVpKbLWueocPq1 DzrXxKQpl84A6DTxrmE-H6mi7474cos8pT
Okay, I'll check it out. Didn't get much further with Beck. Once I heard him ignore the coup, I had to take a break!
monty
5th October 2019, 08:56 PM
Okay, I'll check it out. Didn't get much further with Beck. Once I heard him ignore the coup, I had to take a break!
I deleted Beck's video because of the omissions, half truths & other short comings.
This morning Stranahan made a comment about Beck calling out Andrea Chalupa, mentioned he didn't care for Beck but complimented Beck on this video, I suspect without watching it. Based on that I posted it.
old steel
6th October 2019, 10:34 AM
Does Glen Beck still cry when he broadcasts, like the little crybaby he is?
monty
6th October 2019, 01:03 PM
Glenn Beck is a Bill Browder supporter.
https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1180653332945391616?s=09
Lee Stranahan
@stranahan
I'll get to his lies about Manafort at a later time.
There's a REASON @GlennBeck wants to trash Manafort and it relates to the Magnitsky Act, @Billbrowder and the Trump Tower meeting.
There are so many omission in the first 30 seconds, it may take a while.
monty
6th October 2019, 01:29 PM
Does Glen Beck still cry when he broadcasts, like the little crybaby he is?
He probably does. I quit watching him years ago because he is such a wuss
Amanda
6th October 2019, 01:32 PM
Interesting thread here (still making my way through) from Stranahan https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1180271474470461440
Seems to be saying "Steele Dossier" is really Cody Shearer Dossier (makes sense to me--the whole Russia Hoax was really a clinton operation, it was really the angry Clinton lawyer investigation, but the renamed it the "Mueller" investigation to hide the fact that it was clinton's people seeking revenge). That woman is such a freaking psychopath.
I hope she does run again, I'd love to see her lose again.
monty
6th October 2019, 01:38 PM
Stranahan has been adding to that thread all weekend. Check back periodically for new info.
The hag keeps making noise like she may run again. I'd like to see her imprisoned for her crimes
Amanda
6th October 2019, 01:44 PM
Stranahan has been adding to that thread all weekend. Check back periodically for new info.
The hag keeps making noise like she may run again. I'd like to see her imprisoned for her crimes
Oh, of course, I'd love to see her imprisoned too.
Amanda
7th October 2019, 12:34 PM
Does anybody have anything on this???????
Saw a link (maybe a day ago) that did take me to the marine.mil site- I think it was on zerohedge, person supposedly said something about marines being mobilized, when I got to the marine.mil it was too long and I didn't bother reading it, and just kind of dismissed it (idea of marines being moblized to back trump sounded kind of crazy to me)
Then today, someone said Mike Rivero is carrying the story too, but now it links back to AJ at infowars
EXCLUSIVE! Trump Activates U.S. Marine Reserves For ‘Emergency Within The United States’ To Stop Illegal Coup
Order says emergency ‘will come with little warning,’ cites ‘threats within the Homeland’ — click below for live coverage!
https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-activates-u-s-marine-reserves-for-emergency-within-the-united-states-to-stop-illegal-coup/
I normally wouldn't like to AJ, but since it was on Rivero's site, and he usually is a bit more rational, I thought there might be something to it.
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I guess the Hollywood jews are worried that the goyim might wake up the the Russia Hoax/Coup #1, so looks like they are coming to help out the Dems with a propaganda film--no doubt they will make that arrogant POS James Comey seem like a freaking hero--ugh!!!
Jeff Daniels To Play James Comey, Brendon Gleeson As Evil Trump In 4 Hour Miniseries
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jeff-daniels-play-james-comey-brendon-gleeson-evil-trump-4-hour-miniseries
Amanda
7th October 2019, 02:20 PM
people in the comments over at zerohedge keep saying stuff about Trump mobilizing the marines
Found this https://headlineswithavoice.com/2019/10/06/all-usmc-on-hot-stand-by/ which led to this:
MANPOWER GUIDANCE FOR ACTIVATION AND DEACTIVATION OF RESERVE COMPONENT (RC) MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES
https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1979422/manpower-guidance-for-activation-and-deactivation-of-reserve-component-rc-marin
Amanda
7th October 2019, 02:26 PM
Ukraine’s Gold Reserves Secretely Flown Out and Confiscated by the New York Federal Reserve? The Spoils of War and Regime Changehttps://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-gold-reserves-secretely-flown-out-and-confiscated-by-the-new-york-federal-reserve/5373446
Ukraine Admits Its Gold Is Gone: "There Is Almost No Gold Left In The Central Bank Vault"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone
monty
8th October 2019, 08:06 AM
An interesting article here from Oct. 3 Dead men don't need Impeachment. ~ Pickering Post.com
https://www.pickeringpost.com/2019/10/03/dead-men-dont-need-impeachment-swamp-in-panic-trump-in-danger
Cebu_4_2
8th October 2019, 09:29 AM
It's getting deep fast! Trump the entertainer never lets me down.
monty
10th October 2019, 03:07 PM
Joe Biden reportedly received 900 thousand dollars for lobbying from Ukraine.
Someone's Goose is Cooked ~ Headlines With a Voice
http://youtu.be/5phHPIW224E
https://youtu.be/5phHPIW224E
ziero0
10th October 2019, 03:48 PM
Joe Biden reportedly received 900 thousand dollars for lobbying from Ukraine.
If so US Statute law requires agents of foreign entities register (FARA). To not do so is ... criminal.
EE_
10th October 2019, 05:00 PM
Latest headlines on the gateway pundit
BREAKING: Joe Biden Worked With Anti-Trump CIA Whistleblower While He Was VP!
Get the Popcorn!… Biden Just Tossed Obama Under the Bus, “Obama White House Approved Hunter Biden’s Position”
UPDATE: Anti-Trump CIA “Whistleblower” Reportedly TRAVELED WITH JOE BIDEN to Ukraine when Joe was VP
Cebu_4_2
10th October 2019, 07:10 PM
Love the circus show.
EE_
10th October 2019, 08:08 PM
Trump line of the night!
@ 0:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8um5xwU344
Jewboo
11th October 2019, 11:33 AM
It's getting deep fast! Trump the entertainer never lets me down.
Trump saying he is getting us out of the Middle East while this is today's actual Reality:
The US is beefing up military might in the Middle East, saying it will send more troops, fighter jets and missile defense systems to Saudi Arabia amid escalating tensions with Iran.US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has authorized the deployment of two fighter squadrons, one Air Expeditionary Wing (AEW), two batteries of Patriot missile defense systems and one Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system (THAAD), Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said Friday. This is in addition to the 200 or so troops, Patriots and radar systems whose deployment was announced two weeks ago, and amounts to 3,000 troops “extended or authorized within the last month,” Hoffman clarified.
(https://www.rt.com/news/470730-pentagon-troops-saudi-iran/)
monty
16th October 2019, 03:44 PM
The corruption in by U. S. Senators and other elected officials is more rampant than previously exposed.
CALLING ALL PLUMBERS ~ Headlines With A Voice
http://youtu.be/ieUPdXGGyDU
https://youtu.be/ieUPdXGGyDU
Horn
16th October 2019, 11:09 PM
All that apparently matters is which side is able to work up enough of a stink.
TPTB will surely keep them divided for a longtime, Trump and Senate are guaranteed to gain a few seats in the upcoming election.
There just is not enough gas in all of Ukraine to satisfy either side.
"I was disturbed by the implication that foreign governments were being approached to procure negative information on political opponents," McKinley testified, according to a former colleague familiar with his remarks.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/dc-ukraine-pompeo-mckinley-1.5322457
Amanda
27th October 2019, 04:16 PM
The Plundering Of Ukraine By Corrupt American Democrats
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/plundering-ukraine-corrupt-american-democrats
Amanda
5th November 2019, 05:47 AM
Thought this was a good 3 part series on Coup #2 (basically an extension of Coup #1)
Ukrainegate, or the Coup Against President Donald Trump—Phase Three (Part I)
https://larouchepac.com/20191031/ukrainegate-or-coup-against-president-donald-trump-phase-three-part-i
Says a lot of these people are connected to the coup in Ukraine
Everyone who has appeared before the House Intelligence Committee so far, is up to their ears in U.S./British regime-change operations, particularly the one conducted by the Obama Administration in 2013-2014 in Ukraine, where Joe Biden and Victoria Nuland engineered regime change on Russia’s border, using Neo-Nazis as muscle, and creating a post-coup vassal-state which included the very same Neo-Nazis as government officials. Joe Biden, who served as the Obama Administration’s “point man” on Ukraine, and Biden’s State Department, National Endowment for Democracy, and Atlantic Council buddies misnamed their atrocity, the “Revolution of Dignity.” Victoria Nuland, the case officer with Joe Biden for the coup, says the United States spent $5 billion dollars in creating this fiasco. Her figures do not include substantial funds delivered by the British government and NATO, along with George Soros and other privateers.
Sickens me that there's always plenty of $$$$ to overthrow govts. abroad but no $ for veterans, the wall, or how about troops at the border, instead of plundering the rest of the world
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Thought this was worth a read:
Republican John Ratcliffe: Schiff is running a corrupt process to overthrow Trump (https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/01/rep-john-ratcliffe-adam-schiffs-problem-isnt-that-hes-biased-its-that-hes-running-a-corrupt-process/)https://www.sott.net/article/423229-Republican-John-Ratcliffe-Schiff-is-running-a-corrupt-process-to-overthrow-Trump
Sean Davis
The Federalist (https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/01/rep-john-ratcliffe-adam-schiffs-problem-isnt-that-hes-biased-its-that-hes-running-a-corrupt-process/)
Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:37 UTC
former federal prosecutor who sits on the committee tasked by Democrats with removing President Donald Trump from office blasted Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., as being unfit to oversee the process. Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Tex., told The Federalist on Friday that Schiff's problem isn't mere partisan political bias, it's that Schiff has a conflict of interest given his secret interactions with the anti-Trump whistleblower before his false complaint (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/complaint-from-so-called-whistleblower-is-riddled-with-gossip-blatant-falsehoods/) against Trump was even submitted.
"It's more than just bias — it's an actual legal conflict of interest," Ratcliffe told The Federalist. "Schiff is using his authority as a Chairman presiding over an impeachment inquiry to prevent the investigation and discovery of facts about his own actions or the actions of his staff."
"He is essentially a witness in the trial over which he is presiding," Ratcliffe continued. "He has a conflict of interest because his testimony is relevant to the origins of the impeachment process that he is simultaneously conducting, directing and managing."
Although Schiff initially claimed that he and his staff had never interacted with the anti-Trump complainant and didn't even know who he was, the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/politics/adam-schiff-whistleblower.html) that the whistleblower secretly coordinated with Schiff's Democratic staff, who then urged him to file a complaint against the president.
"The person who planted fake evidence shouldn't be the one ruling on the admissibility of fake evidence," Ratcliffe said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aLO9nJdxDg) on Friday.
monty
5th November 2019, 08:29 AM
sickens me that there's always plenty of $$$$ to overthrow govts. Abroad but no $ for veterans, the wall, or how about troops at the border, instead of plundering the rest of the world
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This is an in-depth study of those rich and powerful who are responsible. The Pilgrims Society founded 1902. It is quite lengthy, first written in 2005 with the most recent update April 2019.
https://www.isgp-studies.com/pilgrims-society-us-uk
Jewboo
5th November 2019, 08:46 AM
The Plundering Of Ukraine By Corrupt American Democrats <--- everybody involved is a jew
Amanda frequently links us to Conservative Tree House so I bookmarked it and scan it daily now. Here is what they linked to as the source for their recent jaw-dropping thread:
Hunter Biden’s Ukraine gas firm pressed Obama administration to end corruption allegations, memos show (https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/)
:o We won't see this on the (((MSM)))
Jewboo
5th November 2019, 09:16 AM
This is an in-depth study of those rich and powerful who are responsible. The Pilgrims Society founded 1902.
Never once mentions the jew. Kosherized history and deceptive misdirection (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsKjvysMnkAhpUmbIXyWv3OMobGjBsp 1RlCpXk3Cb98GgEkOqR&s).
:rolleyes:
Summary and conclusions
The initial purpose of this article was to show whether or not there really existed an Anglo-American Establishment that has been influential on domestic and international politics. Although this is something that has already been established to a large extent by a number of authors, there never was one single society to identify its "members" and link them all together in an easy and convenient way.
monty
5th November 2019, 11:21 AM
EE
Never once mentions the jew. Kosherized history and deceptive misdirection (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsKjvysMnkAhpUmbIXyWv3OMobGjBsp 1RlCpXk3Cb98GgEkOqR&s).
:rolleyes:
It doesn’t mention them in the Pilgrims Society research as jews but the majority are zionist jews. On the home page is a list of zionists.
https://www.isgp-studies.com/index
monty
5th November 2019, 12:00 PM
EE
It doesn’t mention them in the Pilgrims Society research as jews but the majority are zionist jews. On the home page is a list of zionists.
https://www.isgp-studies.com/index
site owner Joël van der Reijden says he has put over 20,000 hours into research
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Joël_van_der_Reijden
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/ISGP
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/134354858/
Amanda
5th November 2019, 01:01 PM
Amanda frequently links us to Conservative Tree House so I bookmarked it and scan it daily now. Here is what they linked to as the source for their recent jaw-dropping thread:
Hunter Biden’s Ukraine gas firm pressed Obama administration to end corruption allegations, memos show (https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/)
:o We won't see this on the (((MSM)))
Yes, Conservative Treehouse has definitely been good on the coup, but generally brain-dead on everything else.
Thought this was good (Steve Hilton explains the Biden Ukraine corruption, includes Kerry, and then this LYING WHORE from the US Dept of State tries to say there's nothing there, so Steve Hilton to her face, says she's part of the coverup!!!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/04/ukraine-kerry-and-quid-pro-joe-steve-hilton-vs-marie-harf/
Ukraine, Kerry and Quid-Pro-Joe: Steve Hilton -vs- Marie Harf (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/04/ukraine-kerry-and-quid-pro-joe-steve-hilton-vs-marie-harf/)
Oh, this is funny. Fox News host Steve Hilton is well versed in the issues where U.S. government officials sent money to Ukraine and then received personal financial benefit from a return of those funds to their own interests. A circle of corrupt money.
As Mr. Hilton expands on the issues of corrupt U.S. officials using Ukraine as a piggy-bank for their own affluence, he highlights examples of both Joe Biden and former Secretary of State John Kerry. Former State Dept. Spokesperson Marie Harf, is shocked, s.h.o.c.k.e.d, at the allegations…. and then, they are all saved by the bull-Shiff bell. WATCH:
quick clip
https://videopress.com/v/2kz47NeD
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/04/ukraine-kerry-and-quid-pro-joe-steve-hilton-vs-marie-harf/
Jewboo
5th November 2019, 04:06 PM
It doesn’t mention them in the Pilgrims Society research as jews but the majority are zionist jews.
Exactly.
Jewboo
5th November 2019, 04:29 PM
Yes, Conservative Treehouse has definitely been good on the coup, but generally brain-dead on everything else.
Thought this was good (Steve Hilton explains the Biden Ukraine corruption, includes Kerry, and then this LYING WHORE from the US Dept of State tries to say there's nothing there, so Steve Hilton to her face, says she's part of the coverup!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjrCgT3aC1E
:o You live in real time Amanda. The literal "here and now".
Amanda
6th November 2019, 09:17 AM
Thought this was good from Rand:
Rand Paul: 'Subpoena Whistleblower, He May Be Involved In Corrupt Ukraine Dealings'https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rand-paul-subpoena-whistleblower-he-may-be-involved-corrupt-ukraine-dealings
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has called on Congressional Republicans to subpoena the anti-Trump whistleblower, suggesting he may be involved in corrupt business dealings in Ukraine.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/rand%20paul_0.jpg
In a Tuesday interview, Paul said that the whistleblower - reported to be CIA officer Eric Ciaramella - "is a material witness to the possible corruption of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden," and that Congress should investigate the whistleblower's ties to the Biden family and Burisma holdings, the Ukrainian gas company that paid Hunter Biden to sit on its board, according to BuzzFeed (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/rand-paul-trump-whistleblower-ukraine-biden).
"[The whistleblower] might have traveled with Joe Biden to Ukraine for all we know. We should look at his writings. We should know all of this stuff to see whether or not he has any intersection with Burisma and with Hunter Biden," said Paul.
The president’s most ardent supporters in Congress have long insisted the real corruption in Ukraine was done by former vice president Joe Biden and his family rather than by President Donald Trump. Many have also called for outing the anonymous intelligence official who filed a whistleblower complaint alleging Trump demanded a political quid pro quo from the Ukrainian government — an investigation into the Biden family in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid. But, until now, they had not brought those two lines of attack together. -BuzzFeed (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/rand-paul-trump-whistleblower-ukraine-biden)
When asked if he has any evidence for his suppositions, Paul said "We don't know unless we ask."
Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was surprised at Paul's comments, saying "He needs to tell us. You can’t ask a judge. You can’t ask members [of Congress], 'Do you want to subpoena this guy?' He might be this, he might be that."
Both Graham and Paul do agree, however, that the whistleblower's identity should be officially made public, with Paul telling reporters that he "probably will" disclose his name.
"I'm more than willing to, and I probably will at some point. ... There is no law preventing anybody from saying the name," said Paul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99cj1NJEQGE
Other lawmakers such as Sen. Mitt Romney, Roy Blunt, John Cornyn and Lisa Murkowski say he should remain anonymous.
The whistleblower's attorney, Mark Zaid, said that Paul and others are using disinformation to distract from the substance of the allegations.
"I imagine at some point soon our client will be accused of masterminding JFK's assassination as well," he said. "Any Member of Congress who pushes to expose the whistleblower will not only undermine the integrity of the system but will be disgracing their office and betraying the interests of the Constitution and the American people."
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Thought this was a good comment from over there:
The whistleblower's attorney, Mark Zaid, said that Paul and others are using disinformation to distract from the substance of the allegations.
"I imagine at some point soon our client will be accused of masterminding JFK's assassination as well," he said. "Any Member of Congress who pushes to expose the whistleblower will not only undermine the integrity of the system but will be disgracing their office and betraying the interests of the Constitution and the American people."
The substance of the allegations? The "whistleblower" is not really a whistleblower. Let's stop pretending, he's Eric Ciaramella, a DNC operative and ardently anti-Trump. He worked with Joe Biden, was with Biden in Ukraine in March 2016, he work with John Brennan at the CIA and he worked under Susan Rice, Obama's NSA.
The Whistleblower Act wasn't designed for hearsay complaints to be marked "urgent" 18 days after an alleged incident is reported to the IG and AFTER consulting with a member of Congress and his staff first, who happened to have worked with Eric Ciaramella at the WH NSC. Ciaramella left the WH in the summer of 2017 because of leaking. He's a weasel.
Mark Zaid is a shyster Democrat lawyer who said.... "I would at some point soon will be accused of masterminding JFK's assassination as well"?? Your logical fallacies, namely appeal to ridicule, needs to be more plausible shyster Zaid. Do you know the members of Lawfare?
This is what shyster Mark Zaid was and is a part of. You should be disbarred Zaid.
Ukraine whistleblower’s lawyers work for group that offers to pay officials who leak against Trump
Whistleblower Aid was launched in September 2017 — eight months after Trump's inauguration — with an advertising blitz (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new-group-offers-leakers-free-attorneys-financial-help-if-theyre-fired) that involved mobile billboards being driven close to the White House, Congress, outside the Pentagon, and around the headquarters of the CIA and National Security Agency.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/ukraine-whistleblowers-lawyers-work-for-group-that-offers-to-pay-officials-who-leak-against-trump (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/ukraine-whistleblowers-lawyers-work-for-group-that-offers-to-pay-officials-who-leak-against-trump)
Lawyer Victoria Toensing sent this out in a tweet earlier today
"FYI. Intell law that provides for whistleblowers to come forward does NOT provide for anonymity. It protects against retaliation. Law only applies to intell conduct by an intell person. @realDonaldTrump not intell person. Talking to Ukraine Pres not intell conduct. #MAGA2020
https://twitter.com/VicToensing/status/1192034001608986624
Amanda
6th November 2019, 10:10 AM
Good for him!!
Trump Jr. Outs CIA Whistleblower Over Twitter
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-jr-outs-cia-whistleblower-over-twitter
Drama ensued on Wednesday after Donald Trump Jr. tweeted a Breitbart News article which contained the name of the alleged Trump-Ukraine whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella.
The article (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/06/alleged-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-worked-closely-with-anti-trump-dossier-hoaxers/), written by Breitbart senior investigative reporter New York Times bestselling author and Aaron Klein, details how Ciaramella was central to the Obama administration's Ukraine policy - including the eventual signing of a $1 billion US loan guarantee after former VP Joe Biden pressured them into firing the guy investigating an energy company paying his son to sit on their board, Burisma Holdings.
In response to Trump Jr. tweeting Ciaramella's name, journalist Yashar Ali (who worked for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign) contacted Don Jr., who told him "The outrage on this is BS. And those pretending that I would coordinate with The White House to send out a Breitbart link haven’t been watching my feed for a long time."
Don Jr. then tweeted "The entire media is #Triggered that I (a private citizen) tweeted out a story naming the alleged whistleblower. Are they going to pretend that his name hasn’t been in the public domain for weeks now? Numerous people & news outlets including Real Clear Politics already ID’d him."
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also, thought this from the comments over at zerohedge was interesting:
Back on Oct 11th Ciaramella's name was widely published on multiple forums as Anons found he was a Susan Rice protege, caught the eye of Brennan and soon was to lead the unmasking effort using Rice's and Samantha Power's ID/classification clearances. That's a felony for all three inclukding the entire team engaged in unmasking.
The Anons also reported Brennan brought Ciaramella into the CIA and dispatched him to the White House as a spy.
We already know he was not on the call by his own admission but filed an "urgent" whistle Blower complaint against the President. A ruse already planned and held in the wings for an opportune moment.
There are NO protections for this traitor much less anonymity. Time to get him in front of the Senate Intel Committee along with Schitt for Brains.
Here's the article Trump Jr. tweeted out:
Alleged ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella Worked Closely with Anti-Trump Dossier Hoaxerhttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/06/alleged-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-worked-closely-with-anti-trump-dossier-hoaxers/
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Also, connecting more dots, Bongino questions whether fake whistleblower, Ciaramella was the co-conspirator "Charlie" mentioned in texts between Lisa Page and Peter strozk:
(https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/06/alleged-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-worked-closely-with-anti-trump-dossier-hoaxers/)Ep. 1100 Was “Charlie” Spying on the Trump White House?https://bongino.com/ep-1100-was-charlie-spying-on-the-trump-white-house/
(https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/06/alleged-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-worked-closely-with-anti-trump-dossier-hoaxers/)
Jewboo
6th November 2019, 11:44 AM
Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was surprised at Paul's comments, saying "He needs to tell us. You can’t ask a judge. You can’t ask members [of Congress]...
THESE TWO SANDBAGGERS (https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105668649-1547050636303rts29y2k.jpg?v=1547050686&w=678&h=381) don't "ask" either and it is literally their job to ask.
<-----My avatar is our only mentally-healthy response to this current Clown World. Stop caring fellow goyim.
Amanda
6th November 2019, 12:11 PM
THESE TWO SANDBAGGERS (https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105668649-1547050636303rts29y2k.jpg?v=1547050686&w=678&h=381) don't "ask" either and it is literally their job to ask.
<-----My avatar is our only mentally-healthy response to this current Clown World. Stop caring fellow goyim.
Yes, Lindsey Graham has been WORTHLESS as Chair of Sen Judiciary committee--there was so much he was supposed to look into, like the players in the Russia hoax coup, and what about all of those lying psycho/hoaxers, like Dr. Chrissy Blasey FRAUD and nutjob Julie Swetnick, who made up the BS about Kavanaugh and the gang rape parties. Grassley made a criminal referral to DOJ on Swetnick and nothing has happened, and Lindsey should have looked into it.
He's obviously dirty and controlled -- a total WHORE for the MIC and Israhel.
Agree on Barr--don't trust him at all...Where's the declass??? IMO, as soon as the Mueller Investigation (aka Clinton revenge lawyer investigation) ended, they should have made all of that public. But instead, it was delayed, in time for the coup plotters to start Coup- Part 2.
Also, pretty sure Ron Paul just put out a video on the Trump DOJ pushing something on pre-crime, so I guess that's what once-CIA-always-CIA Barr as been working on...
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And there's this:
Whistleblower's Attorney Vowed To 'Get Rid Of Trump' In 2017
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/whistleblowers-attorney-vowed-get-rid-trump-2017
The Democratic operative attorney representing the anti-Trump whistleblower vowed to "get rid of Trump" in 2017.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/zaid%201.jpgWhistleblower attorney Mark S. Zaid Mark Zaid, the John Podesta, Clinton and Schumer-linked attorney who founded the anti-Trump nonprofit 'Whistleblower Aid' in 2017, tweeted "It's very scary. We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters. We have to."
Sean Davis ✔ @seanmdav · 2h
Interesting that the anti-Trump complainant's lawyer (not the one who worked for Clinton or Schumer--that's a different one!) vowed to "get rid" of Trump ahead of his client secretly coordinating with House Democrats to go after Trump.
(https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1192133084038287366)https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/881327979917438976
Mark S. ZaidVerified account @MarkSZaidEsq (https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq)
Replying to @Vbarnett323 (https://twitter.com/Vbarnett323) @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
It's very scary. We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters. We have to.
Robert Barnes @Barnes_Law
(https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law) He also bragged about his connections to John Podesta with an organization he set up for litigation.
Hilariously, Zaid describes himself as a "non-partisan" attorney "handling cases involving national security, security clearances, govt investigations, media, Freedom of Information Act, & whistleblowing, according to Breitbart (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/06/attorney-for-impeachment-whistleblowers-actively-sought-trump-admin-informants/)'s
Aaron Klein, who noted that Zaid's "Whistleblower Aid" organization is heavily tied to far-left activist organizations and Democratic policies.
Whistleblower Aid was founded in September 2017 in the wake of Trump’s presidency to encourage government whistleblowers to come forward.
The group did not sit around waiting for whistleblowers. Upon its founding, Whistleblower Aid actively sought to attract the attention of Trump administration government employees by reportedly (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/former-whistleblower-starts-company-to-give-advice-to-would-be-tipsters/2017/09/17/711049e4-e55d-40c5-b71a-50032851a7f4_story.html) blasting advertisements for its whistleblower services on Metro trains, using mobile billboards that circled government offices for 10 hours a day, and handing out whistles on street corners as a gimmick to gain attention.
When Whistleblower Aid was first formed, the main banner for the mission statement of its website contained clearly anti-Trump language.
“Today our Republic is under threat. Whistleblower Aid is committed to protecting the rule of law in the United States and around the world,” read the previous statement which can still be viewed (https://web.archive.org/web/20170920045239/https:/whistlebloweraid.org/mission/) via the Internet Archive Wayback Machine. -Breitbart
(https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/06/attorney-for-impeachment-whistleblowers-actively-sought-trump-admin-informants/)
Zaid is also founder and director (http://www.jamesmadisonproject.org/board.php?director_id=7) of the James Madison Project, which still lists Democratic operative John Podesta (http://www.jamesmadisonproject.org/board.php?director_id=8) as a member of its board in a hidden area of the website (archive here (http://archive.is/ybJKJ)).
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/podesta%201.jpg
"Non-partisan" indeed.
Amanda
6th November 2019, 01:47 PM
Thought this was interesting...
Curiouser and Curiouser… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/06/curiouser-and-curiouser/)
Posted on November 6, 2019 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/06/curiouser-and-curiouser/) by sundance (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/)
According to several media reports AG Bill Barr is scheduled to have a meeting today with Senator Lindsey Graham for an update on the Horowitz and Durham investigations:
[…] Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, plans to meet Wednesday with Barr to talk about the report’s planned rollout, according to people familiar with the matter. (link (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-dept-trying-to-finish-report-on-russia-probe-before-thanksgiving/2019/11/05/b28e5b78-0018-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html))
Then, moments ago, this little innocuous sighting popped up (https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1192137226198618112) amid the DC media:
(a tweet saying Dana Rohrabacher was in the Capitol--he's the guy who met with Assange, and said he can prove DNC NOT hacked by Russia)
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Article is too long for me to bring the whole thing over, but here's some of it:
Why the delay?
What was the DOJ waiting for?
Here’s where it gets interesting….
The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”
(August 2017, The Hill Via John Solomon (https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346904-assange-meets-us-congressman-vows-to-prove-russia-did-not-leak-him)) Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman on Tuesday he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican who is friendly to Russia and chairs an important House subcommittee on Eurasia policy, became the first American congressman to meet with Assange during a three-hour private gathering at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder has been holed up for years.
Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Assange to The Hill.
“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC [Democratic National Committee] emails during last year’s presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails.”
Pressed for more detail on the source of the documents, Rohrabacher said he had information to share privately with President Trump. (read more (https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346904-assange-meets-us-congressman-vows-to-prove-russia-did-not-leak-him))
Knowing how much effort the CIA and FBI put into the Russia collusion-conspiracy narrative, it would make sense for the FBI to take keen interest after this August 2017 meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange; and why the FBI would quickly gather specific evidence (related to Wikileaks and Bradley Manning) for a grand jury by December 2017.
Within three months of the grand jury the DOJ generated an indictment and sealed it in March 2018. The EDVA sat on the indictment while the Mueller probe was ongoing.
As soon as the Mueller probe ended, on April 11th, 2019, a planned and coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was executed; Julian Assange was forcibly arrested and removed from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and the EDVA indictment was unsealed (link (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/11/julian-assange-arrested-in-u-k-and-indicted-in-u-s/)).
As a person who has researched this three year fiasco; including the ridiculously false 2016 Russian hacking/interference narrative: “17 intelligence agencies”, Joint Analysis Report (JAR) (https://www.scribd.com/document/335307016/FBI-Russian-Hacking-Report) needed for Obama’s anti-Russia narrative in December ’16; and then a month later the ridiculously political Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) (https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf) in January ’17; this timing against Assange is too coincidental.
It doesn’t take a deep researcher to see the aligned Deep State motive to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes, and that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story which Julian Assange disputes.
This is critical. The Weissmann/Mueller report (https://www.scribd.com/document/406725805/Mueller-Report#from_embed) contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.
The predicate for Robert Mueller’s investigation was specifically due to Russian interference in the 2016 election. The fulcrum for this Russia interference claim is the intelligence community assessment; and the only factual evidence claimed within the ICA is that Russia hacked the DNC servers; a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.
The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim. The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim. All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.
Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.
This Russian “hacking” claim is ultimately so important to the CIA, FBI, DOJ, ODNI and U.K intelligence apparatus…. Well, right there is the obvious motive to shut Assange down as soon intelligence officials knew the Mueller report was going to be public.
Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.
The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?
Jewboo
7th November 2019, 02:43 PM
The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim...
CIA has been infiltrated and controlled by Mossad for decades. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1499414266612.jpg)
Ukraine "President" and all of those Ukrainian oligarchs are JEWS. (http://prod-upp-image-read.ft.com/551a47b2-d9f9-11e9-9c26-419d783e10e8)
:D
Jewboo
7th November 2019, 07:42 PM
Clown World 2019
:rolleyes:
(https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1573183553141.png)
Dachsie
15th November 2019, 11:34 AM
just chose this thread to post this latest breaking/developing news about Roger Stone since original post contained story of Stone's problems beginning...
Roger Stone FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS.
from good site conservative treehouse article...
"According to the original FBI statements made by James Comey: Crowdstrike did the captured imaging of the DNC network (servers/cloud), then conducted analysis, then provided a report to the DNC with their findings; and that report was given to the FBI. At least that was the original 2017 claim. However, during court filings in the case against Roger Stone, the DOJ/FBI later admitted they never even saw the Crowstrike final report.
Lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission. Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server or cloud data, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the final Crowdstrike report "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN1Cn-OyUbw short video announcing this guilty verdict today.
Follow story with later videos as soon as more info available...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCnOUt5JxHb7M1EGHUwDGdw/videos
This is the videos page of the Headlines with a Voice channel.
Amanda
15th November 2019, 01:25 PM
Well, this doesn't really belong here on the Ukraine thread, but just want to follow up on what Dachsie posted on Roger Stone:
Don't know how to post tweets, but this is what Trump tweeted:
Donald J. Trump✔ @realDonaldTrump
· 7m
So they now convict Roger Stone of lying and want to jail him for many years to come. Well, what about Crooked Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Shifty Schiff, Ohr & Nellie, Steele & all of the others, including even Mueller himself? Didn’t they lie?….
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
And this is what Sundance's take (from the conservative treehouse):
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1195392073119211521
"BIG PICTURE: If President @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) was not informed by AG Bill Barr about declined prosecutions during yesterday's oval office meeting he would not tweet this."
So, it's looking like once-CIA-always-CIA, Deep state Barr is giving everyone a pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clown world
Dachsie
15th November 2019, 01:38 PM
"So, it's looking like once-CIA-always-CIA, Deep state Barr is giving everyone a pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Everyone but Roger Stone. Guess the "Deep State" does not like Roger Stone.
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""BIG PICTURE: If President @realDonaldTrump was not informed by AG Bill Barr about declined prosecutions during yesterday's oval office meeting he would not tweet this."
ALSO...
If President @realDonaldTrump was not informed by AG Bill Barr about CONVICTIONS during yesterday's oval office meeting he would not tweet this."
P.S.
Amanda, suggest you move this post where you think it belongs. I made the most logical decision I could not wanting to start a new thread.
Jewboo
15th November 2019, 03:13 PM
...So, it's looking like once-CIA-always-CIA, Deep state Barr is giving everyone a pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clown world
You previously posted threads exposing Barr as a deep state maintainer and warning us this would happen. You were correct.
Embrace the honk pill (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1554590041555.png) for your own mental health Amanda. I did.
Horn
15th November 2019, 09:10 PM
He also even looks like that actor who played Darth Vader.
Amanda
17th November 2019, 06:04 AM
You previously posted threads exposing Barr as a deep state maintainer and warning us this would happen. You were correct.
Well, I'd rather be wrong. Time will tell for sure. So far, the only ones going to jail are those connected with Trump
Here's why they are trying to keep Ciaramella a secret:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-46p_4TygxFQ/Xc-Sdo_AHNI/AAAAAAADqwI/I6Q6c1lqRZkcElHo2j1lNAsnhbiEkzwhwCNcBGAsYHQ/s640/76605038_428085667855415_2163374296850759680_n.jpg
The latest from Sundance--on the military role in the coup:
A Seditious Conspiracy – Lt. Col. Vindman, CIA “Whistleblower” Source #1, Shaped False Summary of April Trump-Zelensky Phone Call… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/16/a-seditious-conspiracy-lt-col-vindman-cia-whistleblower-source-1-shaped-false-summary-of-april-trump-zelensky-phone-call/)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/16/a-seditious-conspiracy-lt-col-vindman-cia-whistleblower-source-1-shaped-false-summary-of-april-trump-zelensky-phone-call/
Over time it has become clear the first confidential human source for the CIA Ukraine dossier, written by CIA analyst Eric Ciaramella and also known as the “Whistleblower report”, is Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman a Ukraine expert inside the National Security Council on assignment from the Dept of Defense intelligence unit.
Within his deposition (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/09/the-coup-against-a-sitting-u-s-president-became-official-on-october-29th-2019/) the ideology of Lt. Col Vindman is clear. Vindman’s mission focus was/is to shape U.S. policy toward Ukraine (and by extension NATO) regardless of the actual policy view of President Trump. Within his deposition Vindman admitted to giving countermanding instructions (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/09/the-coup-against-a-sitting-u-s-president-became-official-on-october-29th-2019/) to his Ukraine counterpart two weeks after understanding opposite policy objectives from his commander-in-chief.
During his deposition Lt Col Vindman also admitted (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/09/the-coup-against-a-sitting-u-s-president-became-official-on-october-29th-2019/) -with considerable angst and attempts to deflect from his legal advisors provided by the Dept. of Defense- that he was intentionally usurping the chain of command in an effort to follow his own ideological agenda; and perhaps that of his DoD leadership.
By itself that level of admitted and direct insubordination should be alarming for many reasons; not the least of which is his lineage within the U.S. Military. Indeed Vindman’s intent and purpose explains why he appeared for his deposition in full military uniform.
When we consider that Lt. Col. Vindman was carrying out what he believed to be his role; and when you overlay his military purpose; and when we accept Vindman was assisting CIA agent Eric Ciaramella in constructing his dossier to remove President Trump; and when we stand back and look at the aggregate interests involved; and when we consider there was ZERO push-back from the ranks of military leadership, specifically the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and when you accept Vindman was simply allowed to return to his post inside the White House – where he remains today; well, the alarming aspect increases in direct proportion to the definition of the word: “coup”.
woodman
17th November 2019, 06:10 AM
Well, I'd rather be wrong. Time will tell for sure. So far, the only ones going to jail are those connected with Trump
Here's why they are trying to keep Ciaramella a secret:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-46p_4TygxFQ/Xc-Sdo_AHNI/AAAAAAADqwI/I6Q6c1lqRZkcElHo2j1lNAsnhbiEkzwhwCNcBGAsYHQ/s640/76605038_428085667855415_2163374296850759680_n.jpg
The latest from Sundance--on the military role in the coup:
A Seditious Conspiracy – Lt. Col. Vindman, CIA “Whistleblower” Source #1, Shaped False Summary of April Trump-Zelensky Phone Call… (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/16/a-seditious-conspiracy-lt-col-vindman-cia-whistleblower-source-1-shaped-false-summary-of-april-trump-zelensky-phone-call/)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/16/a-seditious-conspiracy-lt-col-vindman-cia-whistleblower-source-1-shaped-false-summary-of-april-trump-zelensky-phone-call/
Nothing new here; just evidence of what we know has been happening all along. The military is completely corrupted and used as a tool for the hostile elite to continue gang-banging those who are not part of their 'Big Club' (as Carlin so aptly called it.)
Amanda
20th November 2019, 10:59 AM
Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Millionhttps://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-indictment-reveals-hunter-biden-group-made-165-million-mp
"The son of Vice-President Joe Biden was receiving payment for his services, with money raised through criminal means and money laundering," he then said, adding "Biden received money that did not come from the company’s successful operation but rather from money stolen from citizens."
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/I%20am%20hunter%27s%20crooked%20smile.jpg
According to Dubinsky, Hunter Biden's income from Burisma is a "link that reveals how money is siphoned [from Ukraine]," and how Biden is just one link in the chain of Zlochevsky's money laundering operation which included politicians from the previous Yanukovich administration who continued their schemes under his successor, President Pyotr Poroshenko.
"We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt," said Dubinsky, adding that "in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds."
Franklin Templeton named
According to Interfax-Ukraine (https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html), MP Andriy Derkach announced at the same press conference that deputies have received new materials from investigative journalists alleging that the 'family' of ex-President Yanukovych funneled $7.4 billion through American investment firm Franklin Templeton Investments, which they claim have connections to the US Democratic party."
"Last week, November 14, the Prosecutor General's Office (PGO), unnoticed by the media, announced a new suspicion to the notorious owner of Burisma, ex-Ecology Minister Zlochevsky. According to the suspicion, the Yanukovych family is suspected, in particular, with legalizing (laundering) of criminally obtained income through Franklin Templeton Investments, an investment fund carrying out purchases of external government loan bonds totaling $7.4 billion," said Derkach, adding that the money was criminally obtained and invested in the purchase of Ukrainian debt in 2013 - 2014.
"The son of Templeton's founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of President Obama's major campaign donors. Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund. It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama's national security advisor," Derkach added.
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Not sure what to make of this one:
FBI Wants To Speak With Trump-Ukraine CIA Whistleblower
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-wants-speak-trump-ukraine-cia-whistleblower
old steel
20th November 2019, 01:32 PM
TREATY WITH UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL
ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS
https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf
old steel
20th November 2019, 01:41 PM
BreakingNLive just got their twitter account suspended for posting about the corruption the Bidens were involved with in Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/FiddlerForest/status/1197238059873398784
Jewboo
20th November 2019, 02:59 PM
... Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund. It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama's national security advisor,"
Let's face it Amanda...Ukraine is being bled dry by all these JEW oligarch parasites.This Shiff Show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG6R7YNt89s) is also entirely JEWS. I wasted my cherished buzz of two daily cans of Heineken today searching all the related Wikipedia links orbiting this now-named goyim Franklin Templeton to finally arrive at this:
PHOTO HERE (https://climateandsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/president_obama_with_tom_donilon_on_air_force_one. jpg)
Personal life
Donilon is the brother of Mike Donilon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Donilon), a lawyer and political consultant who was Counselor to former Vice-President Joe Biden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden). His other brother, Terrence Donilon, is communications director for Roman Catholic Cardinal Sean O'Malley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_Patrick_O%27Malley).[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Donilon#cite_note-20) Donilon's sister, Donna, is a nurse. He is married to Catherine M. Russell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_M._Russell), who was Chief of Staff to Jill Biden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Biden), and in March 2013 was named the Ambassador-at-Large for Global Women's Issues at the U.S. State Department. They have two children.[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Donilon#cite_note-21)[22] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Donilon#cite_note-22)
All these billions of dollars still floating around this Ukraine story (and thread) remain stolen by JEWS from tax-paying goyim Ukrainian citizens. Trumpstein is just jealous that Hunter Biden beat Donny Trump Junior to this free stolen-from-goyim money. EDIT: Even more Clown World now as I (sigh) fetch a third Heineken. Very few goyim will actually ever even see this while they instead watch Dancing With The Stars:
(https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html)KYIV. Nov 20 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions of the legalization of $7.4 billion by the "family" of ex-President Viktor Yanukovych through the American investment fund Franklin Templeton Investments, which they said has ties to the U.S. Democratic Party. (https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html)
old steel
20th November 2019, 04:56 PM
How much did obama pay the mercenary kill teams to slaughter police and protestors in Kiev in 2014?
Dachsie
21st November 2019, 02:49 AM
This Greg Hunter interview of CIA true whistleblower, Kevin Shipp, was interesting, especially in light of Ukraine's role with Clinton Foundation, the "dossier" and Crowdsource.
at about 6:13 to 6:47 everything revolves around Ukraine / US / Democrats and Clinton money scams and fake dossier and beginning of the One Big Coup. All that is blowing up now. Ukraine is trying to clean up its act now, hope it's not too late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vecc5QXOPn0
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Why are Democrats making up false charges in the impeachment hoax in their rabid desire to get rid of President Trump? Former CIA Officer and whistleblower Kevin Shipp says, “It’s all coming out. That is why they don’t want the whistleblower to testify. That’s why the kangaroo courts they are putting on look so ridiculous because they are desperate to cover these things up.”
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Shipp says, as I observe, that it all falls on Barr, head of the federal prison system, and Barr is "duty bound" to do a criminal investigation of how Epstein died. Baden medical examiner said it was murder, not suicide.
Still Shipp seems to believe Barr is not owned by or part of the Deep State. I take encouragement that Shipp, whom I very much support and respect, believes that, though I still do not completely believe that.
The Horowitz Inspector General Report is now, after multiple dates and putting-off of this report's releasefor almost or over one year, is now said to come out in December and before Dec. 12 when Lindsey Graham is holding some big hearing.
I'll believe that when I see it.
All we get is more "investigations" but not prosecutions and convictions of the top criminals. Still have to trust that Trump is playing 4 D chess and is executing/playing out some secret brilliant plan.
I pray for the President and the somehow survival of our republic, but I am not a big Trump supporter. I do appreciate that Trump has prevented another unjust war thus far and that is no small accomplishment since the neocons and the Dems and many of the Republicans clearly want a war on Iran. From what little I glean from reporting I pick up from Internet shows, there just are way too many gaps in logical progression of point-and-counterpoint actions that only leave me with huge questions as to what is really going on behind the scenes.
I view everything through the lens of false events on U S soil, that is "false flag" events over the last sixty plus years. I feel that Dr. Fetzer has to get a fair appeal trial and Pozner needs to lose that case. That would be a breakthrough for truth for not only Sandy Hook, but for all the false events.
Please consider donating to Dr. Fetzer's Legal Defense Fund, even as little as one dollar, at
JamesFetzer.com
and
https://charity-international.square.site/product/james-fetzer/4?cs=true
this Pozner versus Fetzer lawsuit is probably our last chance to restore First Amendment and free speech and free press and get a breakthrough for truth regarding Sandy Hook and really all false flag events.
PatColo
21st November 2019, 06:21 AM
Embrace the honk pill (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1554590041555.png) for your own mental health Amanda. I did.
Really, all of us goyim are victims of the #HonkOcaust -- becoming a #HonkPill popper offers some momentary, token relief. :)
woodman
21st November 2019, 08:22 AM
All we get is more "investigations" but not prosecutions and convictions of the top criminals. Still have to trust that Trump is playing 4 D chess and is executing/playing out some secret brilliant plan.
I pray for the President and the somehow survival of our republic, but I am not a big Trump supporter. I do appreciate that Trump has prevented another unjust war thus far and that is no small accomplishment since the neocons and the Dems and many of the Republicans clearly want a war on Iran. From what little I glean from reporting I pick up from Internet shows, there just are way too many gaps in logical progression of point-and-counterpoint actions that only leave me with huge questions as to what is really going on behind the scenes.
.
That from Fetzner. Exactly where I am at.
old steel
21st November 2019, 12:20 PM
MPs demand Zelensky, Trump investigate suspicion of U.S.-Ukraine corruption involving $7.4 bln
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html
Dachsie
21st November 2019, 04:29 PM
Here is a good timeline article by John Soloman regarding Ukraine corruption starting back in 2014 in Obama administration.
There was the Secretary of State's stepson and the Vice President's son in on this scam with George Soros organization receiving U S taxpayer funds to float this scam in the Ukraine. Can't get much more corrupt than this!
https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-ukraine-scandal-timeline-democrats-and-their-media-allies-dont-want-america-to-see/
The Ukraine scandal timeline Democrats and their media allies don’t want America to see
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woodman
21st November 2019, 04:44 PM
Here is a good timeline article by John Soloman regarding Ukraine corruption starting back in 2014 in Obama administration.
There was the Secretary of State's stepson and the Vice President's son in on this scam with George Soros organization receiving U S taxpayer funds to float this scam in the Ukraine. Can't get much more corrupt than this!
https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-ukraine-scandal-timeline-democrats-and-their-media-allies-dont-want-america-to-see/
The Ukraine scandal timeline Democrats and their media allies don’t want America to see
November 20, 2019admin
Just realize that this is just one of the many countries the US has destabilized and looted. The criminality is stunning.
Cebu_4_2
21st November 2019, 04:58 PM
I feel bad for Muammar Gaddafi who had a plan of giving the entire country of Africa drinking and working water (A good man). We went and filled the plan with irradiated bombs to fullfil the river plan. While Hillary laughed at killing him. Good people end while the demonic state carrys on. Hopefully we are near an end, either way it has to end.
Dachsie
21st November 2019, 05:47 PM
MPs demand Zelensky, Trump investigate suspicion of U.S.-Ukraine corruption involving $7.4 bln
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html
Here is more on this 7.4 billion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8IyUG5M_M
5 minute video
this scheme sounds like the one Bill Clinton ran with bonds on Arkansas state level when he was governor.
EE_
21st November 2019, 06:14 PM
Just realize that this is just one of the many countries the US has destabilized and looted. The criminality is stunning.
The US is by far the most corrupt country in the world, by size and by volume.
woodman
21st November 2019, 06:32 PM
The US is by far the most corrupt country in the world, by size and by volume.
Certainly not per capita. That award must go to our "Greatest Ally". (Sarc)
woodman
21st November 2019, 07:08 PM
Certainly not per capita. That award must go to our "Greatest Ally". (Sarc)
Look what the Nato incubated "White Helmets" have been up to:
https://tass.com/world/1091333
I found this also:
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/05/fact-sheet-on-the-white-helmets/
Horn
21st November 2019, 09:25 PM
The U.S. is least corrupt,
all others are so corrupt that you would never even hear or see it at any level, until all new corruption has been put in to replace the old.
EE_
22nd November 2019, 04:29 AM
The U.S. is least corrupt,
all others are so corrupt that you would never even hear or see it at any level, until all new corruption has been put in to replace the old.
The US is a Banana Republic with the largest economy in the world, most powerful military, the biggest supplier of weapons/missiles/oil/, largest stock market, global hegemony.
Sure, other countries/societies are more corrupt per capita, but we're talking pennies compared to what the US government extorts, loots, steals and through selling weapons. Many more billions of US tax dollars and money from other countries are being moved through corporate, private, offshore accounts, then anywhere else. The US government is the largest enterprise in the world with a completely corrupt FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, DOD, IRS, etc...every agency.
Horn
22nd November 2019, 05:48 AM
"International" Corruption is not corruption, its King.
You're blaspheming, as if comparing Jesus in some way to an average man :)
Jewboo
22nd November 2019, 02:41 PM
Not defending Trump, but I just think the swamp is impossible to drain--the corruption is everywhere, it's like they're all in on it, everyone is getting a cut of the action. And even if Trump was 100% true in wanting to drain the swamp, there's just no way to do it when everyone else is compromised...
(https://www.sott.net/article/356145-The-real-collusion-story-Ukraine-conspired-with-Hillary-Clinton-to-meddle-in-US-elections)
https://twitter.com/MarshaBlackburn/status/1197875810256007170
Stock up on popcorn Amanda. (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/234007414/#q234007414)
:)
From that 4chan thread:
The Constitution sure is getting in the democrats way. 6th amendment says Trump has a guaranteed right to face his accusers and cross examine all witnesses, and provide his own witnesses. And he has a right to an attorney. I can't wait till this goes to the senate for trial. I'm going to need a LOT more popcorn.
Dachsie
22nd November 2019, 04:31 PM
The live stream of this TruNews edition for today is about to end.
This is very much related to Ukraine matter.
I bet this video will be erased from YouTube faster than light.
Good show.
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PatColo
22nd November 2019, 05:24 PM
IMPORTANT
You can go to TruNews.com and download this show, if you know how to do that, and you can repost it somewhere where it will not be erased. All of the TruNews shows are available at TruNews.com and are downloadable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOWjgJW9saU
Odd, I keep TRUnews' YT channel bookmarked, & as of this writing, that vid's not posted? Or it's "invisible" or... dunno; U see it? >> https://www.youtube.com/user/TRUNEWSofficial/videos
they're also on twatter, & their show pretty much gets an auto-RT from me daily. Here's today's show post:
https://twitter.com/TruNews/status/1198012684077191169
Dachsie
22nd November 2019, 05:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOWjgJW9saU
I do see it at
https://www.youtube.com/user/TRUNEWSofficial/videos 36 minutes ago
PatColo
22nd November 2019, 06:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOWjgJW9saU
I do see it at
https://www.youtube.com/user/TRUNEWSofficial/videos 36 minutes ago
ah yes I see it there now too. Was weird though, ur YT link to it was valid, yet it still didn't appear in their channel's /videos tab which I linked to above
Dachsie
22nd November 2019, 06:27 PM
ah yes I see it there now too. Was weird though, ur YT link to it was valid, yet it still didn't appear in their channel's /videos tab which I linked to above
It did appear in their channel's videos tab for me.
Dachsie
23rd November 2019, 02:17 AM
The Vinman part of this Ukraine movie is nicely illuminated by Amazing Polly.
Growing Up Deep State - The Next Generation of Corruption
one hour runtime for this video which was deleted from Amazing Polly's YouTube Channel
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MJsTquX9WMk/
First published at 00:43 UTC on November 20th, 2019.
#vindman #mafia
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Q: What do the CIA & the Mafia have in common?
A: Large Unassimilated Immigrant Communities.
This video was inspired by research into the Impeachment witnesses Alexander Vindman, Marie Yovanovich and CIAr@m#lla.
more...
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/R6L8ZSxbQBw/
First published at 21:32 UTC on November 21st, 2019.
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The Storm seems like it is here!!
DEEP STATE and the mockingbirds are in FULL PANIC from where I am sitting. In this video the new dig starts at about 10 minutes in but I also go over the fact that my last video was very sneakily taken down!
Jewboo
23rd November 2019, 02:51 AM
The Vinman part of this Ukraine movie is nicely illuminated by Amazing Polly.
Growing Up Deep State - The Next Generation of Corruption
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MJsTquX9WMk/
For a quicky summary start around the 45:00 minute mark. I downloaded this amazing video.
:o
Horn
23rd November 2019, 07:36 AM
And they also orchestrate his defense, what's news?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WR9aorC7DY&t=301s
old steel
10th December 2019, 03:59 PM
Dirty Joe Biden, he should be swinging from a rope!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n2qmPGTrqk&feature=emb_logo
keehah
13th December 2019, 08:22 AM
Seems to be saying "Steele Dossier" is really Cody Shearer Dossier (makes sense to me--the whole Russia Hoax was really a clinton operation, it was really the angry Clinton lawyer investigation, but the renamed it the "Mueller" investigation to hide the fact that it was clinton's people seeking revenge). That woman is such a freaking psychopath.
I hope she does run again, I'd love to see her lose again.
Arkancide is just a click or two away when one is trying to understand DC politics.
UNZ: Who Is Cody Shearer? (https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-cody-shearer/)
Feb2018
Cody Shearer’s beautiful twin sister Brooke, who died in 2009, was a “private investigator” and a Clinton campaign aide.
From her 2009 L.A. Times obituary:
During the 1992 presidential campaign, she was Hillary Clinton’s personal aide or “friend, advisor, short-order cook,” as the irreverent Shearer once put it.
Amanda
13th December 2019, 08:33 AM
Well, someone finally named the gossip-blower/coup plotter:
NY Post Editorial Board Names Eric Ciaramella As Whistleblowerhttps://www.zerohedge.com/political/ny-post-editorial-board-names-eric-ciaramella-whistleblower
Dachsie
13th December 2019, 09:18 AM
"UNZ: Who Is Cody Shearer?"
https://www.ancestry.com/www.ancestry.com › name-origin › surname=sherer
Sherer Name Meaning & Sherer Family History at Ancestry ...
Scottish and northern English: variant spelling of Shearer. Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name from Yiddish sherer 'barber'.
Amanda
13th December 2019, 02:06 PM
Just found this comment over at zerohedge, posting here b/c it's a good summary of this ridiculous situation:
I don't trust the Republican party, and I'm pretty sure most of its leaders are corrupt, conniving, liars, but if I compare them to the Democrats, it's not even close. It's like comparing a petty thief with Hannibal Lecter. The "whistleblower" goes to Schiff's people before filing, they alter the form to make his complaint allowable, he works with a lawyer who talked about a "coup" within weeks of Trump's inauguration, the "whistleblower" is trying to cover up all kinds of actual corruption in Ukraine, and then they hide his identity while using him as the basis for this sham impeachment wherein Trump is the bad guy because he wanted to investigate corruption that literally involved the lying weasel "whistleblower".
You really can't make this stuff up.
Of course, not mentioned is the fact that this is a jew coup, and that Trump continues to bendover backwards for them and give them everything they want (embassy to Jereusalem, Golan Heights and who knows what else)
Jewboo
13th December 2019, 02:29 PM
<-- just more Clown World at this point :D
Of course, not mentioned is the fact that this is a jew coup, and that Trump continues to bendover backwards for them and give them everything they want (embassy to Jereusalem, Golan Heights and who knows what else)
This is precisely why I keep "Thanking" our Amanda member. She gets it.
Let's not meanwhile think that the GOP is any less a kosher tool than the DEMS. (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/republicans-agree-massive-spending-bill-despite-record-deficits/)
woodman
13th December 2019, 02:54 PM
I believe our government would be radically different; saner, more honest and in general just have a higher degree of integrity if we disallowed dual citizens to hold critical positions in government and even industry, since the two are so highly intertwined.
Might even be a sane move to abolish dual citizenship altogether. Why be a citizen if loyalty is an earmark of citizenship, since you cannot serve two masters, the reason being they will not always share the same interests and you must then necessarily act in opposition to one, to insure integrity to the aims of the other.
Bigjon
13th December 2019, 04:22 PM
I believe our government would be radically different; saner, more honest and in general just have a higher degree of integrity if we disallowed dual citizens to hold critical positions in government and even industry, since the two are so highly intertwined.
Might even be a sane move to abolish dual citizenship altogether. Why be a citizen if loyalty is an earmark of citizenship, since you cannot serve two masters, the reason being they will not always share the same interests and you must then necessarily act in opposition to one, to insure integrity to the aims of the other.
I think you are right.
But
The Federal govt was owned by the British King George, we made a treaty of peace with him in which he retained his interest in America.
We sent representatives to that Federal govt who were bound by treaty so right away we had dual loyalties. American's of the several States and the British.
old steel
14th December 2019, 07:40 PM
Rudy Drops Ukraine Grenade on Biden & Obama With Mysterious Tweet About Billions of Missing U.S. Cash (https://truepundit.com/rudy-drops-ukraine-grenade-on-biden-obama-with-mysterious-tweet-about-billions-of-missing-u-s-cash/)
KABOOM.
Rudy Giuliani just dropped a bank safe on the heads of Joe Biden and Barack Obama — a bank safe that might be missing billions in U.S. funds.
This is getting interesting.
And ugly. Fast.
And what a surprise, MORE missing money linked to Biden and his former boss.
And talk of another Obama-linked cover up.
https://truepundit.com/rudy-drops-ukraine-grenade-on-biden-obama-with-mysterious-tweet-about-billions-of-missing-u-s-cash/
keehah
26th December 2019, 08:18 AM
Highlight @11:50, Giulliani shows a Ukraine document to Glen Beck, that Ukraine investigations showed 5.3 billion of foreign aid to Ukraine was possibly misspent, with diversions to Democrat NGOs. Only half the aid actually went to the Ukraine government.
Glen Beck: RUDY GIULIANI ON UKRAINE: Documents PROVE Hunter Biden, Burisma Corruption and Money Laundering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXYExjlpwk
Similar MO to what the Obama administration has been previously exposed of having committed:
CapitalResearch.org: Obama Justice Department’s Liberal Slush Fund Exposed (https://capitalresearch.org/article/obama-justice-departments-liberal-slush-fund-exposed/)
10/27/2017 The Justice Department strong-armed banks for cash – and paid it to the far-left
New internal documents from the Obama Department of Justice (DOJ) reveal the existence of a DOJ “slush fund” used to fund left-wing groups while intentionally excluding conservative organizations...
The emails cite Associate Attorney General Tony West, “who by all accounts was the one person most responsible for including the IOLT A provisions,” as the prime mover in disbursing the slush funds. They also reveal how West’s office specifically sought to incorporate mandatory language into “the Department’s large bank settlement agreements” that required banks to “[m]ake donations to categories of entities we [the DOJ] have specified (as opposed to what the bank might normally choose to donate to).” [Exhibits D & F]
Critically, this includes cutting out the possibility of funding conservative nonprofits – a point West’s staff was keen to note...
Tony West doesn’t attempt to conceal his credentials as a Democratic Party operative, and much of his political and legal career reflect his leftist ideology. He served in the Clinton Justice Department and under California Attorney General Bill Lockyer before co-chairing Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign. His Wikipedia entry lists his time after leaving the Obama administration as “focused on promoting an ethical and inclusive culture” as PepsiCo’s executive vice president of government affairs – touting “increased diversity” (read: mandatory ethnic hiring quotas) as a signatory to both the “White House Fair Chance Business Pledge and the White House Equal Pay Pledge.”
Curiously, he is also married to Maya Lakshmi Harris, an adviser to Hillary Clinton’s failed 2016 campaign and the sister of California Senator Kamala Harris.
Dachsie
26th December 2019, 10:17 AM
Well, I know "America's Mayor" of 9-11-01 notoriety is looking like he is holding all the cards at the moment, but always remember Guiliani is crookeder than a dog's hind leg and always will be.
When you start doing a little forensic accounting, you see that the pattern of corruption and money laundering goes back in time further and further than originally thought at beginning of the investigation. Sure, Obama administration and all his co-crooks then are guillty as hell but then you see that it goes back to Dubya and his gang of crooks and then you see it goes back to Slick Willy and then and then and then....You get the picture.
EE_
26th December 2019, 10:38 AM
Well, I know "America's Mayor" of 9-11-01 notoriety is looking like he is holding all the cards at the moment, but always remember Guiliani is crookeder than a dog's hind leg and always will be.
When you start doing a little forensic accounting, you see that the pattern of corruption and money laundering goes back in time further and further than originally thought at beginning of the investigation. Sure, Obama administration and all his co-crooks then are guillty as hell but then you see that it goes back to Dubya and his gang of crooks and then you see it goes back to Slick Willy and then and then and then....You get the picture.
If Giuliani is as crooked as you say he is, the Democrats would have destroyed him a year ago.
Dachsie
26th December 2019, 10:51 AM
They all hold the kill switch on each other. It is no longer only about "the Democrats." It's all a big blackmail/ bribery/ extortion grid and has been for many decades
https://www.thedailybeast.com/giulianis-ukraine-henchmen-lev-parnas-and-igor-fruman-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charge
TROUBLE AHEAD, TROUBLE BEHIND
Rudy Giuliani’s Ukraine Henchman Arrested Over Trump Group Donation
Businessmen Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will reportedly appear in federal court in Virginia on Thursday.
keehah
1st March 2022, 06:16 PM
usatoday.com: Fact check: False claim about Ukraine, Clinton Foundation resurfaces amid Russian invasion (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/28/fact-check-clinton-foundation-donors-dont-include-ukraine-government/6943593001/)
Feb 28, 2022
The claim: Ukraine was the largest donor to the Clinton Foundation for 15 years
“Ukraine largest donor to the Clinton Foundation 1999-2014,” reads text in a Feb. 26 meme on Facebook.
The Wall Street Journal published a report in 2015 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-charity-tapped-foreign-friends-1426818602) on individual donations over $50,000 made to the Clinton Foundation between 1999 and 2014. The article included a chart listing the top foreign donors.
Ukraine tops the list, but the graph doesn't support the claim in the social media posts.
That's because the graph doesn't reflect donations from governments, as the posts assert. The Journal's analysis looked at individual contributions and ranked them “by nationality of donor.”
Ukrainians contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation – more than any other nationality, according to the report. Most of that money came from Ukrainian businessman and philanthropist Victor Pinchuk.
Years old news, but now more with more official confirmation:
greatgameindia.com: Clinton campaign paid tech workers to dig up Trump-Russia connections: Report (https://greatgameindia.com/clinton-paid-tech-firm-court-documents/)
February 15, 2022
An startling new legal document (read below) claims that lawyers for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign paid an IT firm to “infiltrate” systems at Trump Tower and the White House in order to set up a “narrative” linking Donald Trump to Russia...
Sussmann, a lawyer at Perkins Coie, the legal firm that represented the Democrats and Clinton’s campaign, supposedly told the FBI two months before the 2016 election that he was not acting on behalf of Clinton when he supplied the bureau with apparently damaging materials...
According to the lawsuit, “domain name system (DNS) Internet traffic” from Trump Tower, Trump’s New York City residence complex, and the White House was among the internet data exploited. It claimed that Tech Executive-1’s employer (dubbed “Internet Company-1”) offered DNS resolution services to the White House, and that the executive and his allies took advantage of the relationship to mine data for “derogatory information” on Trump.
The motion claims that Sussmann then used this information in 2017 to create “an updated set of allegations” regarding Trump’s alleged Russian ties with another US government agency which included “suspicious DNS lookups” and “Russian-made wireless phones.” Durham stated that he found “no support for these allegations,” adding that some of the searches took place as early as 2014, under Obama’s presidency.
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