Trump ordered killing of Iranian General Soleimani: Pentagon

[C.Martel]

President Donald Trump had ordered the US military to kill Iranian Major General Qassem Soleimani, the Pentagon has said in a statement.

Soleimani, the commander of the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC), and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the second-in-command of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units (PMU), were killed in US airstrikes in the Iraqi capital Baghdad early on Friday.

The IRGC confirmed in a statement that Soleimani and al-Muhandis were martyred in the attack carried out by US helicopters. The Iraqi pro-government group also confirmed the incident.

The director of public relations of pro-government Hashd al-Sha’abi forces has been killed after three Katyusha rockets fell on Baghdad International Airport.

“At the direction of the President, the US military has taken decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force,” the Pentagon said in a statement on Friday.

“This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world,” read the statement.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/03/615230/US-Donald-Trump-Major-General-Qassem-Soleimani

[vacuum]

I read up on Soleimani. Basically, he was THE guy. For the last 20+ years, he lead the Revolutionary Guard's Qud group, which is like their elite special forces/CIA.

So you have the regular Iranian Army which reports to Iran's PM.

Then you have the Revolutionary Guard, which exists to protect the Islamic rulers of Iran, and reports to the Supreme Leader.

Finally, you have the Qud, which reports directly to the Supreme Leader and carries out their black ops, which this guy has run for the last 20+ years.

Its telling that as the attack on the embassy happened, this idiot was right there in Bagdad coordinating it.

I've seen speculation that this was going to be the beginning of a campaign by Iran to draw the US into a proxy war or something. Its possible that killing him cut that effort off at the knees. There is definitely more to it than as a response for a bunch of "protesters" storming and throwing rocks.

[C.Martel]

Iran's Qasem Soleimani Is Guiding Iraqi Forces in Fight Against ISIS
2015 article
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/iranian-gen-qasem-soleimani-guiding-iraqi-forces-fight-against-isis-n321496

[vacuum]

Some people are saying that Soleimani was the most powerful person in Iran. Basically, he was running the show in terms of Iran's policies and was the decision maker what actually happened.

I guess he thought he was untouchable since he was so powerful. Seems unthinkable to just cut the head off without, like, blowing up some bases or something.

[old steel]

This was all planned by the cabal, they needed an event to take the spotlight off them, the Ukraine and the noose tightening around their corruption.

Look over here, not at us.

How many billions in cash on pallets did Barry Soetero fly into Iran again ?

You can take $1.7 billion in cash from Obama. But you can’t spend it if you’re dead.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENVaoZuW4AE1fG3.jpg

[C.Martel]

This was all planned by the cabal, they needed an event to take the spotlight off them, the Ukraine and the noose tightening around their corruption.

Look over here, not at us.

How many billions in cash on pallets did Barry Soetero fly into Iran again ?

You can take $1.7 billion in cash from Obama. But you can’t spend it if you’re dead.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENVaoZuW4AE1fG3.jpg

Don't forget, the Netanyahu scandal and election. Rally those hardliners to support Netanyahu.

The Cabal planned this and trump was the puppet.

[BrewTech]

Here we go again.

Same as it ever was.

[Dachsie]

Here is the Headlines With a Voice woman informing us that this top Iran military commander was taken out by the direct command of Trump.

embedded video very short video Her lack of commentary on this action screams loudly in her silence.

https://headlineswithavoice.com/2020/01/02/irans-top-military-commander-taken-out-in-u-s-airstrike/

_______________

We all know that this is an orchestrated TRAP for President Trump to try to not fall prey to. Different commentators have different opinions of whether this action by President Trump is a true good for the USA and the world or whether it means that Trump fell for the trap and now we are trapped. Of course, ALL of the mainstream media including Fox is going to have the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit commentary on this action by Trump. William Mount says this involves 3 top world big cities -- Baghdad Irag, Jerusalem Israel, Washington DC USA -- would have been nuked by this guy that was killed so Trump saved a nuclear strike on USA and two other large world cities to begin WWIII.

It is sad to see that the top levels of Iranian government have been infiltrated by the likes of this bad actor, but if the USA has not been able to protect itself against this Satanic infiltration, we cannot fault Iranian govenrment.

Here Ron Paul acknowledges that this Iraq / Iran situation precipitated by December 27, 2019, event on US Embassy in Iraq was a SET UP TRAP for TRUMP USA.

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jf1O5OoGI...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jf1O5OoGI

Even libertarian Ron Paul knows he must use the word "Neocon" more and more and certainly with this event. Neocon is code for Zionist / Mossad owned / controlled entities in control entire US government and foreign policy.

(Again, libertarian economic philosophy and the Libertarian party is from the beginning of the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.)


As a Christian, I pray that President Trump will do what God is ordering him to do. In doing so, he will not only save his soul, he will save the USA republic and he may just save the lives of his immediate family and his own and the innocent lives of USA soldiers and innocent people in the Middle East. Unjust killing of innocent vulnerable people is one of the four sins that cry to heaven for vengeance!

We the people, under the will of God MUST RESIST another unjust war for Israel and Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. That resistance is the God honoring righteousness God requires of each of us.

The whole RELIGION of Judaism is based on a negation and a rejection, that is, rejection of the One True God and Messiah for all mankind, Who was specifically prophesied about in over 200 places in the Old Testament (Tenach) and ALL prophecies were perfectly fulfilled by Jesus the Christ.

Pray for President Trump and pray for the 180 degree turn around and saving of the USA Constitutional Republic.

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRNPMITPshI...

here is the emergency update on this issue by William Mount

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2JwKtXLXbM...

[Horn]

Is anyone really elated over officially condoned assasinations?

Didn't think so.

[Dachsie]

Is anyone really elated over officially condoned assasinations?

Didn't think so.

If what William Mount said in his special video is true about this officially condoned assassination stopping the nuking of D.C., Baghdad and Jerusalem, then I am happy about this assassination.

One thing for truthful and sure about this matter, none of us know the whole truth about what prompted this action by President Trump.

All we can do is wait and see what they do to us next.

[old steel]

I'm sure that Iranian (terrorist) general was a model human being, we should all be praying for him, day and night.

[midnight rambler]

Is anyone really elated over officially condoned assasinations?



Everyone in Tel Aviv?

[vacuum]

The western approach to dealing with Islam has failed for many years. Trying to change leadership, nation building, bringing democracy, etc, clearly doesn't work.

Killing this guy feels different. It was fast and brutal. It feels like giving Islam a taste of its own medicine.

The problem with middle eastern wars is they can never win because they aren't willing to be as brutal as the other side is. And they are based on nebulous reasons which is really part of some larger scheme to control countries, etc.

This guy was in Baghdad close to the embassy where he was starting shit, and he got dealt with.

[monty]

Did Trump just wear out the U.S. welcome in Iraq? 21st Century Wire Patrick Henningsen’s analysis


https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/01/03/trumps-fatal-mistake-in-iraq-and-beginning-of-end-for-us-occupation


Patrick Henningsen21st Century Wire (https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/01/03/trumps-fatal-mistake-in-iraq-and-beginning-of-end-for-us-occupation/)

The United States may have just worn out its welcome in Iraq. Whatever comes next will be laid at the feet of the Trump Presidency.

As a result of a series of disastrous moves by US central command, the region now faces the very real prospect of another multinational conflagration in the Middle East, which could include a direct military confrontation between the US and Iran.

How It Began
This past Sunday December 29th, just before the New Year rang in, President Donald Trump gave the order to bomb an Iraqi military base (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-launches-airstrikes-in-iraq-syria-against-iran-backed-militia-blamed-in-contractors-death-2019-12-29), killing and wounding a number of Iraqi military personnel, including Iraqi Army officers, Iraqi police, as well as soldiers belonging to the People’s Mobilization Unit (PMUs). US Air Force F-15E fighters struck five targets located in Iraq and along the Syria-Iraq border, all said to be controlled by an ‘Iranian-backed paramilitary group,’ according to the Pentagon.

According to Washington defense spokespersons, Sunday’s US airstrike was supposedly in response to a rocket attack which struck the “K1” joint US-Iraqi military base located in Kirkuk in north Iraq, which happened just two days before on Friday December 27th, killing one U.S. defense contractor, and one Iraqi police officer, as well as wounding a further 4 US defense contractors, and 3 Iraqi Army officers. US officials claim they had intelligence which confirmed that Friday’s rocket attack near Kirkuk was the work of “Iranian militia,” therefore holding the Islamic Republic of Iran responsible. However, no evidence was presented by the US in relation to the claim.

In response to the US bombing its facility on Sunday, Iraqi protesters, including friends and family of fallen soldiers killed in the US bombing raid, and led by Iraqi PMU members and their supporters, stormed the outer perimeter of the US embassy in Baghdad (https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1212010733216641027?s=20) located inside the infamous US-controlled Green Zone. Many US embassy staff were evacuated or airlifted from the compound, and an additional detachment of 100 US Marines were called in as reinforcements, along with an additional 750 troops from fast battalion 82nd Airborne Division sent to Kuwait preparing to go into Iraq. US combat helicopters circled overhead, as well as around the entire Green Zone and over civilians neighborhoods in Baghdad. This move was not received well by the Iraqi government who forbid such US military patrols as part of their status of forces agreement for the country. The siege lasted until News Years Eve on December 31st, before the Iraqi Army and Iraqi Mukhabarat internal security eventually arrived to disperse the angry crowds.

Following the embarrassing scenes at the US embassy on New Years Eve, Washington promised retribution. What followed could very well be the trigger for a renewed war in Iraq, and which may likely result in US forces and personnel eventually being asked (or forced) to leave the country. On Wednesday January 2, 2020, the US launched another airstrike, targeting an access road leading to Baghdad International Airport, and reportedly killed Iranian Quds Force leader, General Qasem Soleimani, as well as senior Iraqi PMU commander, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, according to reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/defense-secretary-says-iran-and-its-proxies-may-be-planning-fresh-attacks-on-us-personnel-in-iraq/2020/01/02/53b63f00-2d89-11ea-bcb3-ac6482c4a92f_story.html) by Iraqi TV.

Article continues —> (https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/01/03/trumps-fatal-mistake-in-iraq-and-beginning-of-end-for-us-occupation)

[monty]

This blogger left a comment on the 21st Century Wire article. Another point of view

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2020/01/us-esclation-in-iraq-taking-kirkuk.html

Thursday, January 2, 2020

US Escalation in Iraq: Taking Kirkuk & Further Entrenching the US in the Region



Happy New Year to All !!
My crummy cold prevented me from extending well wishes and following up on my previous post.. Still under the weather, but, this report needs to be published

I’m going to hattip Scott at Nomadic Everyman (https://nomadiceveryman.blogspot.com/) for flipping the switch and helping to answer questions posed in the previous post. Latest Report: Ambassador flees as Iraqis storm US embassy- 750 Troops Deploy Immediately With More To Come (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2019/12/latest-report-ambassador-flees-as.html)
What's going on? The US appears to be escalating something in Iraq??

Escalating in Kirkuk is what’s going on:



http://youtu.be/3yfXQG2ieQA


Scott (https://nomadiceveryman.blogspot.com/2020/01/baghdad-embassy-standoff-4000-more.html#more)“As the original attack on the K-1 base near Kirkuk starts to look more and more suspect, Trump starts the process of sending an additional 4k troops to the region in order to combat Iran's influence on Iraq.”
Kirkuk Resource and Territory Grab

The reading I’ve done can be summed up something like this... the border strikes as the impetus for the protests. The protests then justifying a massive increase in US forces. Questionable, to say the least.

The influx of troops is being done for another reason, having nothing to do with the protests.

In my opinion, the protests at the Green Zone had to have been allowed and or encouraged. Cause let’s face it readers, the Green Zone is very heavily fortified, well secured (https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-01-16/whatever-happened-giant-us-embassy-baghdad)- Given their locations, (Afghanistan and Iraq) both complexes require heavy security. But the US embassy in Baghdad is an entirely self-contained colony. Blast proof walls and all )and we shouldn’t forget that it’s just bursting at the seams with military and mercenaries... Therefore, a protest like the one that had occurred could only have taken place if it was condoned. Or desired. With the possibility of provocateurs being present. That’s the only thing that really make sense.

Additionally: Leader of U.S. Embassy siege in Iraq was guest of Obama at White House (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/2/hadi-al-amiri-leader-us-embassy-siege-iraq-was-gue/)




https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2020/01/02/AP_18127711614176_c0-331-4836-3150_s885x516.jpg?2458bb432b58e47724ff56d64ce0e900 158bf0e1 (https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2020/01/02/AP_18127711614176_c0-331-4836-3150_s885x516.jpg?2458bb432b58e47724ff56d64ce0e900 158bf0e1)


Hadi al- Amiri



One of the men identified by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo as a leader of the Iran-backed siege of the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad was welcomed to the White House in 2011 by President Barack Obama.



Hadi al-Amiri was photographed outside the U.S. Embassyduring the siege and was singled out by Mr. Pompeo as an Iranian “proxy” abetting terrorists who stormed the embassy walls and set fires.


An Iranian 'proxy'? An American 'proxy'? Cui Bono.
In Scott’s video he mentioned the earlier attacks on the K-1 base in Kirkuk. Scott, in my opinion, correctly assesses we’re dealing with some serious water muddying. In all probability the “attack” on the K- 1 base was a false flag. And the protestors at the embassy are likely affiliated with the US already, or were heavily infiltrated with provocateurs. We’ve seen past protests at the Green Zone and they’ve generally served US interests.

US Troops will not be leaving Iraq- They never did previously. They won’t now:


Covered years previously: The US Departure from Iraq was all Illusion! (https://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-us-departure-from-iraq-was-all.html)


Congressman Jason Chaffetz questioned the replacement of military forces with contractors, asking: "Are we just playing a little bit of a shell game here?" There is some irony in the fact that a decision by the Iraqi government to deny US soldiers immunity will result in an increase in the numbers of much hated and unaccountable security contractors (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/04/us/us-contractors-war-zones/).


The US never departed Iraq, they undertook creative bookkeeping is all.

US attack on Iraqi militia further entrenches US military in Middle East (https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2020/1/1/us-attack-on-iraqi-militia-further-entrenches-us-military)



https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/file/getimagecustom/820437e3-b913-43df-8657-4806718e6c49/850/479 (https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/file/getimagecustom/820437e3-b913-43df-8657-4806718e6c49/850/479)


Trump, Pence



"The Trump administration argues that these attacks were not only an appropriate response to the attack by the group, which the US contends is an Iranian proxy, on an Iraqi military base near Kirkuk that killed a US contractor and wounded four American troops and two Iraqis. Moreover, the US says, it will degrade the group's ability to conduct future attacks against coalition forces in the region.

Even if one accepts the administration's rationale for the American response, the incident should raise a number of concerns. First, why does the US still have approximately 5,000 troops plus an unknown number of private contractors in Iraq nearly 17 years after our invasion?

If our attack in Iraq was a response to an assault on that country by a foreign power, why was the US attack on December 29, 2019, unanimously and publicly condemned by all the Iraqi leaders, including the president, the prime minister, the foreign minister, the Fatih Alliance - the second largest group in the Iraqi Parliament - and the top Shia cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al Sistani?

Iraqi President Barham Salih actually went so far as to call it an aggressive action and a violation of Iraqi sovereignty.

When Secretary of State Mike Pompeo informed Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi of the attack ahead of time, the prime minister asked him to call it off, and then publicly condemned it, calling it an unspeakable, vicious assault that will have dangerous consequences. How can we claim to be in Iraq to protect their democracy when we are obviously violating their sovereignty?

Third, what comes next? The Pentagon claims that its precision defensive strikes will degrade the militia group's ability to conduct future attacks against coalition forces, while Pompeo calls it a decisive response to Iran."


This is not about responding to a militia- and it’s not directly, though it will eventually get to being, about a response to Iran either. This is about Kirkuk. Control of territory. Control of resources. And most likely a challenge to Russia. As well as Turkey.

The very idea that one would send thousands of additional troops to respond to a militia, into a nation that already has at least 5000 US troops, an unknown number of mercenaries along with other coalition forces present, is absurd. The existing force should make a firm response to the blamed militia, a cakewalk. That said, taking and holding additional territory would require more man power. And that is, in my opinion, what’s really going on.

Kirkuk, disputed and resource rich

I've talked the remake of the region for so long now... we're not getting into that in any detail, except to say it's factor in the taking of Kirkuk.

Let's go back to 2017 and reread some older material posted here at that time, shall we?

11/ 2017: The PMU(F) & Iraq’s Future: Deal With PKK in Kirkuk. (https://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-pmuf-iraqs-future-deal-with-pkk-in.html)
" Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), in coordination with the Hashd al-Shaabi militia, deployed forces and arms in Daquq district, southern Kirkuk Province.

PKK has made an agreement with the Iranian-backed Shi’ite militia Hashd al-Shaabi to deploy PKK forces along with the militia group in Daquq, a move similar to the one in Sinjar.

Hashd al-Shaabi has allowed PKK to deploy more troops and arms in the district, according to the agreement."


The Hashd al Shaabi is associated with Sadr. And his militia has worked hand in glove with the Kurds for some time now. (That's been covered more then once at the blog) At that time different militias backed by Iranian and Lebanese forces had TAKEN OVER DISPUTED TERRITORIES killing Kurdish forces and wounding others.


The Iraqi militias, backed by Iran’s Quds Force and Lebanese Hezbollah, took over the Kurdish disputed territories, killing around 60 Peshmerga troops and wounding 150 others. The invasion created a humanitarian crisis as nearly 200,000 people were forced to flee their homes and their properties were either looted or burned by the militias.


As had been explained, in the above linked posts there are different PMF's, as they are known in the region. Some, despite being Shia are already allied with the US. Some are not.




Understanding subgroups is pivotal. The PMF is not a monolithic


The PMF's/PMU's are not a monolith. And Kirkuk is disputed territory. Which means the Kurds claim it as theirs. Iraq says it is not. There are resources and lots of them ready to be exploited and controlled.

Shortly after the Hashd al Shaabi allowed the PKK to move into the area there began to be terrorist attacks in the area. Shocking, right? (facetious)

12/2017: Attacking Kirkuk: Kurdish Militant Group Re-emerges in Iraq (https://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2017/12/attacking-kirkuk-kurdish-militant-group.html)
The people and officials of the ethnically mixed Iraqi town of Tuz Khurmatu, 170 km north of Baghdad, talk about a new group that raises white flags decorated by the head of a lion drawn in black and carries out almost daily rocket attacks on the town, its surroundings and the suburbs of the nearby province of Kirkuk.



The group sometimes launches raids on the strategic road linking Baghdad to the northern oil city of Kirkuk, intercepting trucks, looting some and burning others, residents and local security officials told Arab News.



“They are Kurdish militants (and are) joined by Daesh militants who fled the neighboring areas,” Hussien said. “They are sleeper cells that were waiting for the right time and place to resume their activities.”


Cue the attack on the K-1 base- Would that be the "right time and place to resume activities"?


https://english.iswnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Screenshot_20191228-103350.jpg (https://english.iswnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Screenshot_20191228-103350.jpg)


K1 Base right by Oil Facilities



Rocket attack by unknown gunmen on K1 base (https://english.iswnews.com/9579/rocket-attack-by-unknown-gunmen-on-k1-base/)


The K1 base is home to US and Iraqi troops and is 15 kilometers northwest of Kirkuk.

The base was established near the Kirkuk oil facility.



As Yaya mentioned there is likely a compete with Russia aspect to this whole scenario, she kindly left some supporting information.


yayacanada (https://www.yayacanada.ca/)January 1, 2020 at 9:43 PM (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2019/12/latest-report-ambassador-flees-as.html?showComment=1577933000355#c607183649922177 640)
Hi Penny: Happy New Year!

I wonder if the following two articles might contain some clues. Creating a fuss over the US Embassy would be a good excuse to send in more US troops.

The Future of Iraq’s Oil Is Russian
With ongoing protests making other investors nervous, Moscow is charging ahead.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/15/trump-keeping-iraq-oil-russia-leading-middle-east/

JOHN KIRIAKOU: About Trump Wanting Iraq’s Oil Fields
October 29, 2019

What the president advocated was one of the most telling statements of his presidency. It amounted to an admission that he is perfectly willing to commit a war crime.

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/29/john-kiriakou-about-trump-wanting-iraqs-oil-fields/



So, let's go back to October 2017: Russia's Roseneft to Take Majority Share...... (https://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2017/10/russias-roseneft-to-take-majority-share.html)
Russia’s state-controlled oil giant Rosneft said on Thursday that it had agreed with the Kurdistan Regional Government to take majority control in the operation of the oil pipeline in the Kurdish region, in an apparent push by Russia and Rosneft to achieve greater political and economic influence in the Middle East.

The Rosneft deal comes just days after Iraqi government forces seized control of all oil fields that Iraqi state-held North Oil Company operates in the oil-rich Kirkuk region from Kurdish forces.

Last week, Iraq’s Oil Minister Jabbar Al-Luiebi ordered state-held oil and pipeline companies to begin restoring oil flows from Kirkuk to Ceyhan via a pipeline that bypasses Kurdistan, increasing pressure on the breakaway region that voted for independence last month in a referendum strongly opposed and deemed illegal and invalid by the federal government.


To conclude: The US is using the pretext of the protests, the likely false flag attack on the K1 base to bring in additional troops in order to take back the Kirkuk territory held by the Iraqi state government. That's how this all looks to me at this time. Where it goes...??

Additional Reading (https://abc11.com/politics/fort-bragg-soldiers-prepare-for-deployment-amid-unrest-in-baghdad/5803067/)
The U.S. official, who provided unreleased details on condition of anonymity, said the full brigade of about 4,000 soldiers may deploy.

According to the U.S. Army's website, the 82nd Airborne Division is "a force prepared to respond to crisis contingencies anywhere in the world within 18 hours."

"This deployment is an appropriate and precautionary action taken in response to increased threat levels against U.S. personnel and facilities, such as we witnessed in Baghdad today," Esper said in a written statement. "The United States will protect our people and interests anywhere they are found around the world."

The 750 soldiers deploying immediately are in addition to 14,000 U.S. troops who have deployed to the Gulf region since May in response to concerns about Iranian aggression, including its alleged sabotage of commercial shipping in the Persian Gulf


The US has been preparing a regional escalation since May of 2019


Pt. 2: Meddling Outsiders and Antagonistic/Conflicting Neighbours Around the Mediterranean Sea (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2019/12/pt-2-meddling-outsiders-and.html)
​
Pt. 1: Meddling Outsiders and Antagonistic/Conflicting Neighbours Around the Mediterranean Sea (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2019/12/pt-1-meddling-outsiders-and.html)

The Mediterranean: "The Sea in the Middle of the Earth" Still Geostrategically Vital (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-mediterranean-sea-in-middle-of.html)



Posted by Penny (https://www.blogger.com/profile/16834513101685995010)at 12:09 PM https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon18_email.gif (https://www.blogger.com/email-post.g?blogID=4458100886317255245&postID=2424428004751465063)
Email This (https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=4458100886317255245&postID=2424428004751465063&target=email)BlogThis! (https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=4458100886317255245&postID=2424428004751465063&target=blog)Share to Twitter (https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=4458100886317255245&postID=2424428004751465063&target=twitter)Share to Facebook (https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=4458100886317255245&postID=2424428004751465063&target=facebook)Share to Pinterest (https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=4458100886317255245&postID=2424428004751465063&target=pinterest)

Labels: Iran (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Iran), Iraq (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Iraq), Israel (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Israel), kurds (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/kurds), Lebanon (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Lebanon), perception management (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/perception%20management), Pipelines (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Pipelines), russia (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/russia), Syria (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Syria),Turkey (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/Turkey), US (http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/search/label/US)



5 comments:

[Dachsie]

None of the articles and videos I have watched mention Israel as being an influencing factor in this. William Mount mentions the CIA Russia China and the United Nations, but he also says almost nothing on the issue of Israel.

Somebody, repeat SOMEBODY, is trying to provoke Trump / USA into a war on Iran. We have to look at all the candidates who have that wish for war and Israel is the one that first comes to my mind.

Nothing, repeat NOTHING, that comes out over the mainstream media is the truth.

[Horn]

If what William Mount said in his special video is true about this officially condoned assassination stopping the nuking of D.C., Baghdad and Jerusalem, then I am happy about this assassination.

One thing for truthful and sure about this matter, none of us know the whole truth about what prompted this action by President Trump.

All we can do is wait and see what they do to us next.

My only question would be if Salami was the only guy whos been preventing the nukes of those cities from happening all these past decades..

[Dachsie]

"My only question would be if Salami was the only guy whos been preventing the nukes of those cities from happening all these past decades.. "

Good question. I think partly the answer Mount my give to your question is that Iran fairly recently came into possession of 3 nuclear bombs - big ones.
So the deeper question is who really is Salami ( I like your spelling...of Soleimani). He was a mid level power person in Iran up until last few years when Iran has really been building him up in the press and making him look big and powerful. Are there really nukes involved that are in the hands of some entities that are right now threatening to use them?

I am listening now to Dr. Fetzer give his unique take on Trump's action and he is calling Trump a liar and a pretty much a traitor. He is reading from an article about this by PHillip Geraldi. and using the B S term liberally throughout his commentary.

At least Dr. Fetzer is mentioning Israel and the Mossad and drawing parallels to Israel's role in perpetrating 9-11. But Dr. Fetzer also sort of sounds like he is saying THIS MEANS WAR FOR SURE RIGHT NOW and that is the logical consequence of Trump's action.

In many ways, Trump's decision to assassinate Salami does not make logical sense and we know we are missing some pieces of the puzzle.

William Mount's take does seem to suggest one big missing puzzle piece that could explain a lot of things but who knows? None of us, for sure.

And during this day, I have heard at least five completely understandings of what Trump's action portends.

[woodman]

This is actually quite insane. I believe Iran could truly claim that Trump is a danger to their country. They would surely have a right then, under this doctrine, to assassinate Trump. Countries and their leaders once followed the rule of law (ostensibly).

[vacuum]

This is actually quite insane. I believe Iran could truly claim that Trump is a danger to their country. They would surely have a right then, under this doctrine, to assassinate Trump. Countries and their leaders once followed the rule of law (ostensibly).

The problem is you're applying western values to muslims.

Western values say that you respect your adversary and play by established rules, have a war, and one side wins and the other side concedes defeat.

Islam on the other hand lives by the sword. Their way of life is war. The only way to end it is to kill them. Trump did this guy a favor. Now he gets to be a martyr. It was a win/win situation really.

Iran can't claim anything because the guy was killed on foreign soil, only a few miles from where he was orchestrating attacks on us, with a militia leader on his way to coordinate further attacks. Its not like they dragged this guy out of his home or out of an embassy or something.

[Horn]

Better not to play at all.

Same as in China, we make all our people slaves to compete.

Now we make our govenors murderers to compete for embassys where none should exist.

Real horror show, play your part.

Full withdrawl and demand same from allies.

[monty]

Here is the Headlines With a Voice woman informing us that this top Iran military commander was taken out by the direct command of Trump.

embedded video very short video Her lack of commentary on this action screams loudly in her silence.

https://headlineswithavoice.com/2020/01/02/irans-top-military-commander-taken-out-in-u-s-airstrike/

_______________

We all know that this is an orchestrated TRAP for President Trump to try to not fall prey to. Different commentators have different opinions of whether this action by President Trump is a true good for the USA and the world or whether it means that Trump fell for the trap and now we are trapped. Of course, ALL of the mainstream media including Fox is going to have the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit commentary on this action by Trump. William Mount says this involves 3 top world big cities -- Baghdad Irag, Jerusalem Israel, Washington DC USA -- would have been nuked by this guy that was killed so Trump saved a nuclear strike on USA and two other large world cities to begin WWIII.

It is sad to see that the top levels of Iranian government have been infiltrated by the likes of this bad actor, but if the USA has not been able to protect itself against this Satanic infiltration, we cannot fault Iranian govenrment.

Here Ron Paul acknowledges that this Iraq / Iran situation precipitated by December 27, 2019, event on US Embassy in Iraq was a SET UP TRAP for TRUMP USA.

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jf1O5OoGI...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jf1O5OoGI

Even libertarian Ron Paul knows he must use the word "Neocon" more and more and certainly with this event. Neocon is code for Zionist / Mossad owned / controlled entities in control entire US government and foreign policy.

(Again, libertarian economic philosophy and the Libertarian party is from the beginning of the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.)


As a Christian, I pray that President Trump will do what God is ordering him to do. In doing so, he will not only save his soul, he will save the USA republic and he may just save the lives of his immediate family and his own and the innocent lives of USA soldiers and innocent people in the Middle East. Unjust killing of innocent vulnerable people is one of the four sins that cry to heaven for vengeance!

We the people, under the will of God MUST RESIST another unjust war for Israel and Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. That resistance is the God honoring righteousness God requires of each of us.

The whole RELIGION of Judaism is based on a negation and a rejection, that is, rejection of the One True God and Messiah for all mankind, Who was specifically prophesied about in over 200 places in the Old Testament (Tenach) and ALL prophecies were perfectly fulfilled by Jesus the Christ.

Pray for President Trump and pray for the 180 degree turn around and saving of the USA Constitutional Republic.

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRNPMITPshI...

here is the emergency update on this issue by William Mount

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2JwKtXLXbM...

Sure it was a trap. My theory is it was concocted by Pompeo & Netanyahu when they last met in Israhell. Most likely they set up the attack that killed an American contractor in Iraq. DOD directed by Pompeo retaliated by attacking Iraqi/Syrian border installations some 120 - 150 miles away.

Pompeo, Sec. of Defense and Joint Chief of Staff General make an unscheduled trip to Mar a Lago to explain to Trump why he wasn't informed. In the foto of the news briefing the General didn't speak nor did he appear to be happy about the situation.

Afterwards Pompeo springs his & Netanyahu's 'intel' that the Iranian general is about to nuke the world or some other disaster. Trump obliges Netanyahu by taking out the Iranian general initiating the first stages to war with Iran.

Netanyahu & Pompeo do the happy dance while the rest of the world is on pins and needles wondering if this will be the start of WWIII

[Dachsie]

Monty, that's the best insight I have seen so far.

Israhell is involved for sure as well also is some other huge threat - maybe a nuke or two about to go off or simpler blackmail tools like prison or torture and death or ruination of careers, etc.

If there is such a thing as an honest man taking valorous courageous action to do the most good for the most people at any and all risk to self, only God can make that happen.

Still say, we need to pray for Trump and family and for God to intervene and avert a world war or a nuking anywhere in the world.

I do not particularly care if the USA empire fails into nothingness, nor do I care if the big banks and banksters go belly up nor if the stock market goes bust, but then I am a simple mnded Christian who believes all that matters in this miserable modern world is the salvation of souls for the eternal glory of God.

[Neuro]

I have a feeling a dirty bomb may go off in a major US city soon. As ”retaliation”, but in reality a Mossad led false flag operation.

[woodman]

I have a feeling a dirty bomb may go off in a major US city soon. As ”retaliation”, but in reality a Mossad led false flag operation.

This is certainly a perfect set-up for a false flag.

[Jewboo]

The Iraqi "government" and people don't want one single American soldier on their soil. Just like Syria. We are militarily occupying both sovereign nations in brazen violation of international law.........for Greater Israel.

[Amanda]

The Iraqi "government" and people don't want one single American soldier on their soil. Just like Syria. We are militarily occupying both sovereign nations in brazen violation of international law.........for Greater Israel.


TOTALLY agree with EVERYTHING you said here!!

[Amanda]

Luongo Laments "Is This Trump's Point Of No Return?"https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/luongo-laments-trumps-point-no-return

Apparently, Solemaini was a hero, in terms of killing the real terrorists (ISIS--armed, trained, funded by the US, Israhell, Saudi Barbaria, and the gulf states)


Like it or not Trump executed the man most responsible for the systemic destruction of ISIS and neutering of Al-Qaeda in Syria and Iraq. He’s also a man, over the years, who has fought the U.S. to a standstill across the Middle East.

Those were his pertinent crimes.



Obviously, NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE. The US is controlled by Israel.

[Amanda]

Sure it was a trap. My theory is it was concocted by Pompeo & Netanyahu when they last met in Israhell. Most likely they set up the attack that killed an American contractor in Iraq. DOD directed by Pompeo retaliated by attacking Iraqi/Syrian border installations some 120 - 150 miles away.

Pompeo, Sec. of Defense and Joint Chief of Staff General make an unscheduled trip to Mar a Lago to explain to Trump why he wasn't informed. In the foto of the news briefing the General didn't speak nor did he appear to be happy about the situation.

Afterwards Pompeo springs his & Netanyahu's 'intel' that the Iranian general is about to nuke the world or some other disaster. Trump obliges Netanyahu by taking out the Iranian general initiating the first stages to war with Iran.

Netanyahu & Pompeo do the happy dance while the rest of the world is on pins and needles wondering if this will be the start of WWIII



Monty- Totally agree with you here. They've tried at least 3 times to bait Trump into attacking Iran. Just another zionist plot for more war--nothing but blood-thirsty psychopaths. No doubt, this time, things are different because, thanks to the "jew coup" they now have a knife to Trump's neck in the form of impeachment. He's completely controlled by the jews--gave them the embassy to Jerusalem, gave them Golan Heights (WHICH BELONGED TO SYRIA), but it's never enough for these people. They always want more, and this time it's a war on Iran.

[old steel]

Iran's Air Force

www.wdmma.org/islamic-republic-of-iran-air-force.php

The link shows: 47 F-4 Phantoms, 24 F-14s, 17 F-5s. A few of the Phantoms might still fly, none of the F-14s do, a few F-5s might still work if bought from Thailand or similar.

Not worth going after.

Round One: Take out Command and Communications centers, Air Defense Radar and Navy bases. Destroy Republican Guard. Five to six hours.

Round Two: Blockade their ports, Use ECM to shut down major airports.

[BrewTech]

The problem is you're applying western values to muslims.

Western values say that you respect your adversary and play by established rules, have a war, and one side wins and the other side concedes defeat.

Islam on the other hand lives by the sword. Their way of life is war. The only way to end it is to kill them. Trump did this guy a favor. Now he gets to be a martyr. It was a win/win situation really.

Iran can't claim anything because the guy was killed on foreign soil, only a few miles from where he was orchestrating attacks on us, with a militia leader on his way to coordinate further attacks. Its not like they dragged this guy out of his home or out of an embassy or something.


Have you always been a neocon, or are you recently converted?

[vacuum]

Have you always been a neocon, or are you recently converted?

Neocons believe in "principles". Like "human rights", "democracy", and "freedom". They believe we must bring those to other countries.

I'm saying something completely different. I'm saying that if Islam picks a fight with us, we should utterly destroy them. The Catholic Church should have taken that advice a long time ago.

[midnight rambler]

Neocons believe in "principles". Like "human rights", "democracy", and "freedom". They believe we must bring those to other countries.

I'm saying something completely different. I'm saying that if Islam picks a fight with us, we should utterly destroy them. The Catholic Church should have taken that advice a long time ago.

I see what you're saying however my thinking is that those who stirred up the 7th century inbred goatfuckers should all be hunted down and destroyed.

[Dachsie]

I just started watching this over two hour video

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JE7oC7bv1G4/



with Adam Green interviewing some interesting well spoken guy I have never heard of named Angelo John Gage.

Gage seems to have the same take that Dr. James Fetzer stated recently and that is that Saleimani is a good guy in terms of serving his country Iran honorably.

This show is sounding pretty good to me and I intend to invest this evening listening to the rest of the video.

[old steel]

Must have been taking the grand site seeing tour to be that far inside Iraq or just clueless and lost like most goat fuckers.

This just in, on Agenda-Free TV they have unconfirmed reports that AL-Shabaab has attacked an US base in Kenya, casualties reported on both sides.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8AIyI_89w

[BrewTech]

Neocons believe in "principles". Like "human rights", "democracy", and "freedom". They believe we must bring those to other countries.

I'm saying something completely different. I'm saying that if Islam picks a fight with us, we should utterly destroy them. The Catholic Church should have taken that advice a long time ago.
I'm not Islamic, or Catholic.
I don't want war.
"We" and "They" and "Us" have no personal meaning for me in the context in which you speak.
When you say "we", I am assuming you have a mouse in your pocket, because that group certainly doesn't include me.

[Dachsie]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1213189757708189699

Mike Pence
‏Verified account @Mike_Pence

[Soleimani] Assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.
12:05 PM – 3 Jan 2020

3,165 Retweets
8,766 Likes



_____________


James Fetzer says:
January 4, 2020 at 11:34 pm

Ludicrous beyond words. Iran had nothing to do with 9/11. It was an Israeli op, brought to us compliments of the CIA, the Neocons in the Department of Defense (most of whom are dual US-Israeli citizens), and the Mossad (to create a pretext for the US entering the Middle East and taking out the modern Arab states that served as a counter-balance to Israel’s domination of the entire region and then to confront the Persian nation of Iran. See “9/11: Who was responsible and why”, https://www.bitchute.com/video/E3YaOLqzcwzF/
Reply Report comment

[Cebu_4_2]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1213189757708189699

Mike Pence
‏Verified account @Mike_Pence

[Soleimani] Assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.
12:05 PM – 3 Jan 2020

3,165 Retweets
8,766 Likes



_____________


James Fetzer says:
January 4, 2020 at 11:34 pm

Ludicrous beyond words. Iran had nothing to do with 9/11. It was an Israeli op, brought to us compliments of the CIA, the Neocons in the Department of Defense (most of whom are dual US-Israeli citizens), and the Mossad (to create a pretext for the US entering the Middle East and taking out the modern Arab states that served as a counter-balance to Israel’s domination of the entire region and then to confront the Persian nation of Iran. See “9/11: Who was responsible and why”, https://www.bitchute.com/video/E3YaOLqzcwzF/
Reply Report comment

Comments are golden.

[Horn]

Iran even then assisted Israel, to remove those same 10 terrorists back to Saudi Arabia by 9/15.

Queue gas lines at stations and hostage rescue chopper burnin on the tarmac as Trump turns into Jimmy Carter.

We shall all join our hands in cosmic protectionism and obedience to the oil gods, like good Indians.

[monty]

An Englishman explains Pompeo's lie to justify killing Soleimani- - something called the Bethlehem Doctrine

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani
craig craig
21 hours ago

In one of the series of blatant lies the USA has told to justify the assassination of Soleimani, Mike Pompeo said that Soleimani was killed because he was planning “Imminent attacks” on US citizens. It is a careful choice of word. Pompeo is specifically referring to the Bethlehem Doctrine of Pre-Emptive Self Defence.

The complete explanation https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/01/lies-the-bethlehem-doctrine-and-the-illegal-murder-of-soleimani/amp/

[monty]

Maram Susli, a Syrian geopolitical analyst @partisangirl on Twitter says Epstein was a Mossad asset, lsrael has Trump blackmailed with footage of underage girls
They asked Trump to lure Saleimani to Bagdad with promises of de-escalation then assassinate him.

https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1213846516458110976?s=19

[monty]

I just started watching this over two hour video

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JE7oC7bv1G4/



with Adam Green interviewing some interesting well spoken guy I have never heard of named Angelo John Gage.

Gage seems to have the same take that Dr. James Fetzer stated recently and that is that Saleimani is a good guy in terms of serving his country Iran honorably.

This show is sounding pretty good to me and I intend to invest this evening listening to the rest of the video.

I have read some Angelo John Gage’s material. He is well informed.

https://www.youtube.com/c/angelojohngage (https://m.youtube.com/c/angelojohngage)

[monty]

Consortium News ~ Veteran Intelligence Officials for Sanity, VIPS, Memo to President Trump

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/01/03/vips-memo-doubling-down-into-yet-another-march-of-folly-this-time-on-iran/


“We write with a sense of urgency suggesting you avoid doubling down on catastrophe,” VIPS tells Donald Trump in its latest memo to the president.
January 3, 2020

MEMORANDUM FOR: The President
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)

SUBJECT: Doubling Down Into Another “March of Folly”?

The drone assassination in Iraq of Iranian Quds Force commander General Qassem Soleimani evokes memory of the assassination of Austrian Archduke Ferdinand in June 1914, which led to World War I. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was quick to warn of “severe revenge.” That Iran will retaliate at a time and place of its choosing is a near certainty. And escalation into World War III is no longer just a remote possibility, particularly given the multitude of vulnerable targets offered by our large military footprint in the region and in nearby waters.What your advisers may have avoided telling you is that Iran has not been isolated. Quite the contrary. One short week ago, for example, Iran launched its first joint naval exercises with Russia and China in the Gulf of Oman, in an unprecedented challenge to the U.S. in the region.Cui Bono?

Full Article (https://consortiumnews.com/2020/01/03/vips-memo-doubling-down-into-yet-another-march-of-folly-this-time-on-iran/)

[keehah]

Here we go again.

Same as it ever was.
In Iraq the Feds will war-crime against another country they won't 'win' against (i.e. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc) to protect public servants from violent protests.
In America the Feds will stand-down and not protect conservatives meeting in public from violent protests.


https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1213189757708189699?s=20


Assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.
NYT: Pence Links Suleimani to 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/us/politics/pence-iran-factcheck.html)


“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact.”
― George Orwell

[vacuum]

I'm not Islamic, or Catholic.
I don't want war.
"We" and "They" and "Us" have no personal meaning for me in the context in which you speak.
When you say "we", I am assuming you have a mouse in your pocket, because that group certainly doesn't include me.

You are living in a civilization that was created by christianity. Whether you are a christian or not, you are benefiting from it.

You could move to Turkey if you really don't care whether you live in an islamic nation or not. Since you drink beer, I'm guessing you actually do have a side in this whether you realize it or not.

That said, I don't want war either. But I'd rather have it over seas then in my neighborhood like they do in Europe.

[woodman]

You are living in a civilization that was created by christianity. Whether you are a christian or not, you are benefiting from it.

You could move to Turkey if you really don't care whether you live in an islamic nation or not. Since you drink beer, I'm guessing you actually do have a side in this whether you realize it or not.

That said, I don't want war either. But I'd rather have it over seas then in my neighborhood like they do in Europe.

The world that is being created by Israel and it's Zionist creators will be the end of Christianity and of Christians. These very same Zionists are the ones bringing in all of the third worlders here. You don't seem to be seeing things very clearly. If you want to live somewhere that is safe for Christians and is a decent place overall, then you need to rethink your mindset. Iran is not and has never been a problem. Israel and the US as it's attack dog are the problem. Why are we even in the Mid-East? It is not our country. We will not even protect our own borders, yet we have bases all over the world. Your mindset is very ignorant. Wise up. You sound like a rabid Zionist. A real Neocon, in which case you are not ignorant but something far worse.

Iran has never attacked America. They have never attacked Israel. We have caused untold misery to them. Read some history. Investigate what we have done there from the days of Mossaddegh onward. Who the fuck is paying for our militarism all over the world? We live in a land of plenty and it is being stolen from us along with our children's future.

[Amanda]

The world that is being created by Israel and it's Zionist creators will be the end of Christianity and of Christians. These very same Zionists are the ones bringing in all of the third worlders here. You don't seem to be seeing things very clearly. If you want to live somewhere that is safe for Christians and is a decent place overall, then you need to rethink your mindset. Iran is not and has never been a problem. Israel and the US as it's attack dog are the problem. Why are we even in the Mid-East? It is not our country. We will not even protect our own borders, yet we have bases all over the world. Your mindset is very ignorant. Wise up. You sound like a rabid Zionist. A real Neocon, in which case you are not ignorant but something far worse.

Iran has never attacked America. They have never attacked Israel. We have caused untold misery to them. Read some history. Investigate what we have done there from the days of Mossaddegh onward. Who the fuck is paying for our militarism all over the world? We live in a land of plenty and it is being stolen from us along with our children's future.

Woodman-

I TOTALLY AGREE with everything you said. 100% accurate.

[Amanda]

The Line in the Sand
Eric Striker • January 3, 2020

https://www.unz.com/estriker/the-line-in-the-sand/


“Most Americans did not know Qasem Soleimani until the Israelis found the perfect opportunity to have him assassinated. They gave the Pentagon the orders and kindly handed Donald Trump all the credit while he ate his ice cream and watched it on TV.”…


“The war with Iran is 40 years in the making, bipartisan and the decision is not up for referendum. This goes for all the weapons of mass destruction we gave to Saddam Hussein to use against Iran in the 80s, to Obama’s nuclear agreement which was really just a way to collect intelligence on Iranian infrastructure and capabilities, to the current campaign to provoke the Ayatollah into entering the classic war the Jews in Washington and their orange golem are ready to kamikaze-pilot our country into. The only thing Iran can to make it stop is cease to exist or fight. Israel and American Jewry (95% which support Israel) will never tolerate a competent and ideologically principled regional rival.


A Lion in the Winter


General Soleimani was not some random military officer. This figure is considered a legend in his home and much of the Middle East, uniting both hardliners and reformers as a patriotic symbol. Even Soleimani’s most passionate haters in Tel Aviv and Washington grant that he is a military genius, a pius warrior-monk, and a man who has always led from the front.


After 9/11, Soleimani offered intelligence and aid to the United States government, but was rejected. Soleimani’s guidance was instrumental in helping Hezbollah defeat Israel during the 33-days war in 2006, which required surgical precision due to the massive US troop buildup in the region that Israel thought would give it cover. In Iraq and Syria, Soleimani was the single most important figure in taking these two countries back from ISIS and Al-Qaeda. When ISIS, with all their American weapons, was on the brink of taking Baghdad, the General was shuttled in as a moralizing supervisor, uniting Shi’ite militias to embrace the fight of their lives. In Syria, Soleimani led non-sectarian battle groups of Muslims and Christians to drive the barbarians Israel and America had unleashed on the East Mediterranean state out.



Soleimani’s life mission was familiar to those of us struggling against Zionist genocide against us in our own lands: to free his people of not just Israeli menacing, but international Jewry as a whole. His military career saw the castration of the Saudis, the containment of Israeli expansion, the last-minute salvation of Christian and other religious minorities, and until today, a rising, final resistance to the consolidation of Jewish power over the whole world.”

[Amanda]

Maram Susli, a Syrian geopolitical analyst @partisangirl on Twitter says Epstein was a Mossad asset, lsrael has Trump blackmailed with footage of underage girls
They asked Trump to lure Saleimani to Bagdad with promises of de-escalation then assassinate him.

https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1213846516458110976?s=19

I like Syrian Girl and followed her during the Zionist war on Syria,but on this one, I'm not really buying it. I just think that if they had anything on Trump, they would have used it to stop him from running in the first place. We all know that (((TPTB))) wanted it to be a JebBush/Hillary race.

But I certainly agree that Trump is under control, but I'd say that the control stems from the knife to his neck in the form of Impeachment.

But this guy makes a compelling argument that the change in Trump occurred as a deal to make Mueller go away (he does a great job in highlighting the foreign policy changes missed by most of us):

Tit for Tat? Why Did Mueller Let Trump Off the Hook?

Mike Whitney (https://www.unz.com/author/mike-whitney/) • April 28, 2019 •
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/tit-for-tat-why-did-mueller-let-trump-off-the-hook/

Why did Robert Mueller end the Russia investigation when he did? He could have let it drag it out for another year or so and severely hurt Trump’s chances for reelection. But he didn’t do that. Why?...

Mueller did none of these things which simply proves that his final report was what many people had expected from the very beginning; a purely political document that twists the truth to achieve Mueller’s particular objectives. But to understand what those objectives are, we need to determine what the real goals of the investigation were. So, here they are:

To help sabotage Trump’s political agenda
To create a cloud of illegitimacy over Trump’s election
And to prevent Trump from implementing his plan to normalize relations with Russia.


These were the real objectives of the investigation, to create a forth branch of government (Special Counsel) that had the power to keep Trump permanently on the defensive while the media made him out to be either an unwitting accomplice in Russian espionage or, even worse, a traitor. The aim was to reign him in and keep the pressure on until a case could be made for his impeachment. Mueller played a key role in this travesty. His assignment was undermine Trump’s moral authority by brandishing the cudgel of criminal indictment over his head. This is how a D.O.J. appointee, who had never held public office in his life, became the most powerful man in Washington.

My question is simply this: Why did Mueller give up all that power when he did?

I think I can answer that, but first, we need a little more background. Check out this quote from candidate Trump in 2016:


“We will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past…We will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments…. Our goal is stability not chaos, because we want to rebuild our country [the United States]… We will partner with any nation that is willing to join us in the effort to defeat ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism …In our dealings with other countries, we will seek shared interests wherever possible and pursue a new era of peace, understanding, and good will.”

Imagine how terrified the foreign policy establishment must have been when they heard Trump utter these words. No more regime change wars? Are you kidding me? That’s what we do: Regime-Change-Is-Us., and now this upstart, New York real estate tycoon is promising to do a complete 180 and move in another direction altogether. No more destabilizing coups, no more bloody military interventions, instead, we’re going to work collaboratively with countries like Russia and China to see if we can settle regional disputes and fight terrorism together? Really?

At the same time Trump was promising this new era of “peace, understanding, and good will,” Hillary Clinton was issuing her war whoop at every opportunity. Here’s candidate Hillary trying to drum up support for taking on the Russians in Syria:


“The situation in Syria is catastrophic. And every day that goes by, we see the results of the Assad regime in partnership with the Iranians on the ground, and the Russians in the air…When I was Secretary of State, I advocated and I advocate today a no-fly zone and safe zones.”

Interesting, isn’t it? Here’s Hillary, the “liberal” Democrat, pushing for a no-fly zone in Syria... In other words, if Hillary had been elected, she was all ready to flip the switch and start WW3 ASAP. Is it any wonder why the establishment loved her?...War, war and more war, that’s the Hillary Doctrine in a nutshell. It was Hillary’s relentless hawkishness that pushed leftists into the Trump camp...they did hope that his dovish comments would steer the country away from nuclear annihilation. That was the hope at least, but then everything changed. And after it changed, Mueller released his report saying: “Trump is not guilty after all!”

So, what changed?

Trump changed.

Think about it: In mid December 2018, Trump announced the withdrawal of all U.S. troops in Syria within 30 days. But instead of withdrawal, the US has been sending hundreds of trucks with weapons to the front lines. The US has also increased its troop levels on the ground, the YPG (Kurdish militia, US proxies) are digging in on the Syria-Turkish border, and the US hasn’t lifted a finger to implement its agreements with NATO-ally Turkey under the Manbij Roadmap. The US is not withdrawing from Syria. Washington is beefing up its defenses and settling in for the long-haul. But, why? Why did Trump change his mind and do a complete about-face?

The same thing happened in Korea. For a while it looked like Trump was serious about cutting a deal with Kim Jong un. But then, sometime after the first summit, he began to backpeddle. He never honored any of his commitments under the Panmunjom Declaration and he never reciprocated for Kim’s cessation of all nuclear weapons and ballistic missile testing. Trump has made no effort to “build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula” or to strengthen trust between the two leaders. Then, at the Hanoi Summit, Trump blindsided Kim by making demands that had never even been previously discussed. Kim was told that the North must destroy all of its chemical and biological weapons as well as its ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs before the US will take reciprocal steps. In other words, Trump demanded that Kim completely and irreversibly disarm with the feint hope that the US would eventually lift sanctions.

Trump made these outrageous demands knowing that they would never be accepted. Which was the point, because the foreign policy establishment doesn’t want a deal. They want regime change, they’ve made that perfectly clear. But wasn’t Trump supposed to change all that? Wasn’t Trump going to pursue “a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past”?

Yes, that was Trump’s campaign promise. So, what happened?

There are other signs of capitulation too; like providing lethal weapons to the Ukrainian military, or nixing the short-range nuclear missile ban, or joining the Saudi’s genocidal war on Yemen, or threatening to topple the government of Venezuela, or stirring up trouble in the South China Sea. At every turn, Trump has backtracked on his promise to break with tradition and “stop toppling regimes and overthrowing governments.” …’ At every turn, Trump has joined the ranks of the warhawks he once criticized.

Trump is now marching in lockstep with the foreign policy establishment. In Libya, in Sudan, in Somalia, in Iran, in Lebanon, he is faithfully implementing the neocon agenda. Trump “the peacemaker” is no where to be found, while Trump the ‘madman with a knife’ is on the loose.

Is that why Mueller let Trump off the hook? Was there a quid pro quo: “You follow our foreign policy directives and we’ll make Mueller disappear?

It sure looks like it.

******

[monty]

I like Syrian Girl and followed her during the Zionist war on Syria,but on this one, I'm not really buying it. I just think that if they had anything on Trump, they would have used it to stop him from running in the first place. We all know that (((TPTB))) wanted it to be a JebBush/Hillary race.

But I certainly agree that Trump is under control, but I'd say that the control stems from the knife to his neck in the form of Impeachment.

But this guy makes a compelling argument that the change in Trump occurred as a deal to make Mueller go away (he does a great job in highlighting the foreign policy changes missed by most of us):

Tit for Tat? Why Did Mueller Let Trump Off the Hook?

Mike Whitney (https://www.unz.com/author/mike-whitney/) • April 28, 2019 •
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/tit-for-tat-why-did-mueller-let-trump-off-the-hook/

Why did Robert Mueller end the Russia investigation when he did? He could have let it drag it out for another year or so and severely hurt Trump’s chances for reelection. But he didn’t do that. Why?...

Mueller did none of these things which simply proves that his final report was what many people had expected from the very beginning; a purely political document that twists the truth to achieve Mueller’s particular objectives. But to understand what those objectives are, we need to determine what the real goals of the investigation were. So, here they are:

To help sabotage Trump’s political agenda
To create a cloud of illegitimacy over Trump’s election
And to prevent Trump from implementing his plan to normalize relations with Russia.


These were the real objectives of the investigation, to create a forth branch of government (Special Counsel) that had the power to keep Trump permanently on the defensive while the media made him out to be either an unwitting accomplice in Russian espionage or, even worse, a traitor. The aim was to reign him in and keep the pressure on until a case could be made for his impeachment. Mueller played a key role in this travesty. His assignment was undermine Trump’s moral authority by brandishing the cudgel of criminal indictment over his head. This is how a D.O.J. appointee, who had never held public office in his life, became the most powerful man in Washington.

My question is simply this: Why did Mueller give up all that power when he did?

I think I can answer that, but first, we need a little more background. Check out this quote from candidate Trump in 2016:



Imagine how terrified the foreign policy establishment must have been when they heard Trump utter these words. No more regime change wars? Are you kidding me? That’s what we do: Regime-Change-Is-Us., and now this upstart, New York real estate tycoon is promising to do a complete 180 and move in another direction altogether. No more destabilizing coups, no more bloody military interventions, instead, we’re going to work collaboratively with countries like Russia and China to see if we can settle regional disputes and fight terrorism together? Really?

At the same time Trump was promising this new era of “peace, understanding, and good will,” Hillary Clinton was issuing her war whoop at every opportunity. Here’s candidate Hillary trying to drum up support for taking on the Russians in Syria:



Interesting, isn’t it? Here’s Hillary, the “liberal” Democrat, pushing for a no-fly zone in Syria... In other words, if Hillary had been elected, she was all ready to flip the switch and start WW3 ASAP. Is it any wonder why the establishment loved her?...War, war and more war, that’s the Hillary Doctrine in a nutshell. It was Hillary’s relentless hawkishness that pushed leftists into the Trump camp...they did hope that his dovish comments would steer the country away from nuclear annihilation. That was the hope at least, but then everything changed. And after it changed, Mueller released his report saying: “Trump is not guilty after all!”

So, what changed?

Trump changed.

Think about it: In mid December 2018, Trump announced the withdrawal of all U.S. troops in Syria within 30 days. But instead of withdrawal, the US has been sending hundreds of trucks with weapons to the front lines. The US has also increased its troop levels on the ground, the YPG (Kurdish militia, US proxies) are digging in on the Syria-Turkish border, and the US hasn’t lifted a finger to implement its agreements with NATO-ally Turkey under the Manbij Roadmap. The US is not withdrawing from Syria. Washington is beefing up its defenses and settling in for the long-haul. But, why? Why did Trump change his mind and do a complete about-face?

The same thing happened in Korea. For a while it looked like Trump was serious about cutting a deal with Kim Jong un. But then, sometime after the first summit, he began to backpeddle. He never honored any of his commitments under the Panmunjom Declaration and he never reciprocated for Kim’s cessation of all nuclear weapons and ballistic missile testing. Trump has made no effort to “build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula” or to strengthen trust between the two leaders. Then, at the Hanoi Summit, Trump blindsided Kim by making demands that had never even been previously discussed. Kim was told that the North must destroy all of its chemical and biological weapons as well as its ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs before the US will take reciprocal steps. In other words, Trump demanded that Kim completely and irreversibly disarm with the feint hope that the US would eventually lift sanctions.

Trump made these outrageous demands knowing that they would never be accepted. Which was the point, because the foreign policy establishment doesn’t want a deal. They want regime change, they’ve made that perfectly clear. But wasn’t Trump supposed to change all that? Wasn’t Trump going to pursue “a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past”?

Yes, that was Trump’s campaign promise. So, what happened?

There are other signs of capitulation too; like providing lethal weapons to the Ukrainian military, or nixing the short-range nuclear missile ban, or joining the Saudi’s genocidal war on Yemen, or threatening to topple the government of Venezuela, or stirring up trouble in the South China Sea. At every turn, Trump has backtracked on his promise to break with tradition and “stop toppling regimes and overthrowing governments.” …’ At every turn, Trump has joined the ranks of the warhawks he once criticized.

Trump is now marching in lockstep with the foreign policy establishment. In Libya, in Sudan, in Somalia, in Iran, in Lebanon, he is faithfully implementing the neocon agenda. Trump “the peacemaker” is no where to be found, while Trump the ‘madman with a knife’ is on the loose.

Is that why Mueller let Trump off the hook? Was there a quid pro quo: “You follow our foreign policy directives and we’ll make Mueller disappear?

It sure looks like it.

******



He does make a strong argument. Other analysts agree that it is the Impeachment debaucle that caused Trump to change course. I think Syrian Girl's statement is more speculation than fact based.

Also the money Sheldon Adelson dumped into Trump's campaign and the additional he added after the Inauguration certainly has to have some bearing on Trump's Middle Eastern foreign policy.

[old steel]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENiu9QkUYAEpp35.jpg

[Dachsie]

Chuck Baldwin is ending a live talk right now at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Nv5I8OTJM

He seems to be telling it like it is regarding the stranglehold "the Zionists" have on the president and the USA foreign policy.

worth a listen

(I am not a Protestant so the part of his message from that perspective is something I just set aside.)

[EE_]

Keep an eye in this, a catalyst has been provided for the next bull run!
https://www.kitco.com/market/

[Amanda]

Soleimani had Diplomatic Immunity making his Assassination a far Graver Crimehttps://www.fort-russ.com/2020/01/major-soleimani-had-diplomatic-immunity-making-his-assassination-a-far-graver-crime/


"General Soleimani was acting under diplomatic authority and it bodes poorly for the U.S’ ability to engage in diplomacy in the region for years to come. With a single act, the U.S violated not only standing and unspoken rules in place for countless centuries, but specific provisions in, for example, Article 31 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations."
Its all coming out now:
"Despite the relatively misleading use of the word ’embassy’, the US had been using this and the ‘green zone’ around it as an unwelcome military base in the heart of Baghdad. Numerous credible reports detailed that ISIS/Al Qaeda operatives and leaders even had use of the green zone. A decade ago, ISIS-type death squads would leave from the green zone at night to execute social, religious, and political leaders in Iraq opposed to the US occupation.

Soleimani flew on a regular flight and was accompanied by nine men, including Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Force. They traveled in three unarmed vehicles on a public road.
Soleimani was carrying a diplomatic message and this elevates him to the level of a diplomatic envoy. This compounds and greatly exacerbates not only the criminality of his assassination, but its consequences."

[Amanda]

OMG, now Trump is acting like a TOTAL JEW!!!

Trump Says "US Will Not Leave" Iraq Unless Billions For Air Base Are Repaid


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-us-will-not-leave-iraq-unless-billions-air-base-are-repaid

***

So, is ZIO-WHORE TRUMP also going to make them pay for the cost of US invading them???? Make the psychopathic neocons pay for it!!!!! So much for bringing the troops home. Talk about getting played!!!

NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE. We should have bases at the Mexico boarder to stop the invasion and not everywhere else!!

Ron Paul was the only one who would have made things different, which is why they stole the nomination from him twice!!

[Jewboo]

<--- my avatar

Trump threatens Iraq with ‘very big sanctions’ unless it pays BILLIONS back for an air base if US troops forced to withdraw (https://www.rt.com/news/477539-iraq-sanctions-base-withdrawl/)
This is Clown World. Bring on the popcorn...

[EE_]

Gold over $1,600 this week? I think so. Americans are not safe anywhere in the world right now and this problem isn't going away anytime soon.

[Amanda]

Great comments over at zerohedge (at least some out there get it)


Jewish accounting is being applied by Trump. We destroy Iraq 2 times and they gotta pay us?


Iraq should sue the US for TRILLIONS for the illegal invasion based on LIES.


In 2003 US invaded Iraq based on lies, after the 9/11 FF.
It killed 1.5-2 million Iraqi ( now this blamed on Soleimani, lol!), displaced 5 million, destroyed its infrastructure( before US came Iraq had one of the LOWEST neonatal mortality rate , universal healthcare and education) , stole its GOLD /OIL/ invaluable historical artifacts , used depleted uranium( Fallujah).
Then, bc it had to withdraw( Obama), US created ISIS ( C!A / M!6 and Mo$$ad, with funds/ help from KSA) to justify staying and "fighting ISIS" .
Then, tried a Kurdistan ( 2nd Israel)
Bc of Soleimani, Baghdad didn't fall into ISIS' hands-fact.
The, it tried a color revolution, ending in resignation of Iraqi PM. ( US used those miraculously escaped ISIS fighters , bc "all US guards were asleep, hehe!)
Now, after all these, the Donald, the shabbos-goy-in-chief asks for billions /
US has to pay hundreds of billions repayment for what it has done.
US will leave, willingly or in body bags-your choice.
Just in time for presidential elections, also I don't think US reaches new elections -it will collapse before them.
If US does , either the Donald or a Democrat - it's the same.
Bc it doesn't matter who the president is (also I have to say that, as much as I disliked Obama, he was definitely smarter than this clown with the intellect and vocabulary of a 5yo)
All presidents are "married" into the system. Look closely at Uncle Scam's hat, do you recognize that logo? Hint: starts with A ends with C, has I and P in the middle.




You mean the "air base" like the Embassy that was planned after the first Gulf War based on this lie (https://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html) that destroyed 400,00 lives?... Then 8 years of bombing campaigns and naval blockades that murdered 500,000 more of it's civilians?... Followed by (3 buildings 2 planes) (https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it) (https://www.ae911truth.org/) and a story about yellow cake uranium that wasn't (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/20/18274228/ari-fleischer-iraq-lies-george-w-bush-wmds) that raped, tortured and murdered 3 million more with the looting operation of Iraq's oil over 17 years???...
Eat shit and die you worthle$$ "0range $hit $tain" of a motherfucker!... That said you would investigate what was never investigated (https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/14/trump-im-reopening-911-investigation/) then reneged on it!... And those that still support you that will inevitably be wearing a Russian hypersonic missile up their asses for their sins!... YOU GOT IT "CUMIN"!

[Dachsie]

"Maram Susli, a Syrian geopolitical analyst @partisangirl on Twitter says Epstein was a Mossad asset,"

Dr. Steve Pieczenik 12 minute interview by Owen Shroyer. Very interesting.

Started out talking about Epstein debacle and said Barr and all to top people of all major U S agencies are compromised. Said Barr should resign and the FBI is a joke and the CIA is out of control. The whole system is so corrupt it is just killing itself. That certainly rang true to me.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e0ff726a3fd65002b37c018

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e0ff726a3fd65002b37c018

Is Jefferey Epstein Really Dead?

26,500 views

·

Jan 3, 2020
War Room With Owen Shroyer

Dr. Steve Pieczinik breaks down what he believes actually happened to Jeffrey Epstein.

[EE_]

"Maram Susli, a Syrian geopolitical analyst @partisangirl on Twitter says Epstein was a Mossad asset,"

Dr. Steve Pieczenik 12 minute interview by Owen Shroyer. Very interesting.

Started out talking about Epstein debacle and said Barr and all to top people of all major U S agencies are compromised. Said Barr should resign and the FBI is a joke and the CIA is out of control. The whole system is so corrupt it is just killing itself. That certainly rang true to me.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e0ff726a3fd65002b37c018

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e0ff726a3fd65002b37c018

Is Jefferey Epstein Really Dead?

26,500 views

·

Jan 3, 2020
War Room With Owen Shroyer

Dr. Steve Pieczinik breaks down what he believes actually happened to Jeffrey Epstein.

PHOTOS of Jeffrey Epstein Released Following His Death and Autopsy – It Sure Looks Like He was Strangled by Wire!
Jim Hoft by Jim Hoft January 5, 2020 42 Comments

In November famed pathologist Dr. Michael Baden went on FOX and Friends where he claimed evidence points to homicide over suicide in Jeffrey Epstein’s prison death.

Dr. Baden also pointed to the three broken neck bones were “very unusual of suicide and more indicative of homicide strangulation.”

Dr. Baden is not the only top pathologist who said this. Dr. Cyril Wecht, a doctor and lawyer, told Kennedy on FOX Business Network in August a Montreal study found only 2 of 239 hanging death resulted in a broken Hyoid bone — or less than 1% of those killed.

Dr. Baden was hired by the pedophile’s family to observe the autopsy.

Dr. Baden also joined Judge Jeanine Pirro later that week where they discussed Jeffrey Epstein’s death.

During the discussion Judge Jeanine and Dr. Baden and showed convincing evidence that Epstein’s death was not a suicide.
Epstein’s bed was 5′ 6″. tall. Epstein was 4′ tall on his knees. The noose was found tied to the bed at 3’6′. According to Dr. Baden the height of the tie would not bring enough force to break ANY bones let alone three bones in his neck.

Judge Jeanine: Now I want to be real clear. I want the viewers to understand. I’ve tried these intentional strangulation cases too. The breaking of the hyoid bone, the fracture of the two Thyroid cartilage, that means serious force on the neck. That you don’t normally get in a hanging. Especially in a hanging. I want the next screen guys. Here’s a bunk bed. The height is 5’6″. On his knees Epstein is 4′ tall. You now have been able to identify that the tie is right there (around 3′ 6″).

Dr. Baden: The ligature is tied up here (3’6″) but it’s down to the floor as far as the body goes. So there’s not enough force there to cause ANY fracture.

Judge Jeanine: Any fracture at all, let alone these fractures?

Dr. Baden: Right.

See Photo https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/photos-of-jeffrey-epstein-released-following-his-death-and-autopsy-it-sure-looks-like-he-was-strangled-by-wire/

[woodman]

<--- my avatar

Trump threatens Iraq with ‘very big sanctions’ unless it pays BILLIONS back for an air base if US troops forced to withdraw (https://www.rt.com/news/477539-iraq-sanctions-base-withdrawl/)


This is Clown World. Bring on the popcorn...
It is getting surreal. It could pass for comedy except for the suffering that will ensue.

[Jewboo]

It is getting surreal. It could pass for comedy except for the suffering that will ensue.

I dunno. Palestinians allow themselves to be cooped up in Gaza and the shrinking West Bank. (https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/5011502851523/2017/1/a28dafb65ffa9fbc19f3f19d4b50a61e/Palestine-leader-congratulates-Kim-Jong-Un-on-anniversary.jpg) Palestinian refugees in the US and Europe never attack a jew. Iraqis still allow American Military Occupation after all these years. Bunch of passive muslim pussies...

:(??

[Horn]

OMG, now Trump is acting like a TOTAL JEW!!!

Trump Says "US Will Not Leave" Iraq Unless Billions For Air Base Are Repaid


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-us-will-not-leave-iraq-unless-billions-air-base-are-repaid

***

So, is ZIO-WHORE TRUMP also going to make them pay for the cost of US invading them????

A jewish banker would not insure any type of Iraqui payment plan, they know the 3d chess better.

This is true white Goyim strategy.

[vacuum]

Pretty interesting take by Scott Adams:

https://www.pscp.tv/ScottAdamsSays/1djxXRPARmeGZ

TLDW: The Supreme Leader may have feared Soleimani, as every year the SL got less and less popular, and Soleimani became more and more popular. Hence the SL may actually be relieved that a potential rival has been disposed of. Furthermore, even if Iran theoretically wanted peace, it may have not been viable with Soleimani around if he was the one who held the cards.

[Neuro]

In Iraq the Feds will war-crime against another country they won't 'win' against (i.e. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc) to protect public servants from violent protests.
In America the Feds will stand-down and not protect conservatives meeting in public from violent protests.


https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1213189757708189699?s=20

NYT: Pence Links Suleimani to 9/11. The Public Record Doesn’t Back Him. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/us/politics/pence-iran-factcheck.html)


“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact.”
― George Orwell

Funny, now they try to link 9/11 to Iran as well. Al Qaeida was neither friends nor tolerated by Saddam Hussein (who was a secular socialist Sunni muslim, who only towards the end of his political life made some Islamic pledges, trying to save Iraq from defeat) and definitely not by Iranians Shiite’s, who are kind of the worst enemy of the Sunni fanatics, such as Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Obviously anyone who makes claims such as this, must assume that the target audience is stupid, or must be stupid himself, in Mike Pence’s case I think it is a bit of both...

In terms of supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS. I don’t think the role USA had in their creation and development can be underestimated.

[Amanda]

. I don’t think the role USA had in their creation and development can be underestimated.

Yes, US and Israhell were behind the creation of ISIS/Al Qaeda--funding, training, constantly dropping supplies/weapons, etc.

In the comments at zerohedge, someone said Tulsi Gabbard was on facebook live last night, openly admitting that the US has been supporting ISIS/Al Qaeda (pretty sure it was only Tulsi and Rand Paul who sponsored "Stop Arming Terrorists" bills, which means all the rest of them are nothing but a bunch of psychopathic whores who are totally find with the US funding/training barbaric psychopaths who behead little children.

Tulsi apparently now calling for US troops to get out of Syria and Iraq:

'End #TrumpsWar now', US congresswoman & presidential candidate Gabbard tweets after drone strike killed Iranian generalhttps://www.rt.com/usa/477465-gabbard-iraq-troops-comment/

[PatColo]

good EMJones rant on PressTV - 2m:
https://twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1214225367843651585

+ the full EMJ/PressTV interview, 28m:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYFiv73kQis



The New Iranian Crisis - E. Michael Jones' Analysis (https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYFiv73kQis/)
We are faced with a new crisis with Iran, now that American forces have assasinated Iran's military leader Qasem Soleimani. In this interview Dr. Jones discusses the cause of this crisis, explores the reasons why Donald Trump ordered this assassination, and analyzes what kind of response will come from Iranian retaliation.

[Jewboo]

OMG, now Trump is acting like a TOTAL JEW!!!

He just got stabbed in the back by another jew...lol

:D (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1578333451081.png)

[Dachsie]

Thanks for letting us know about this. Will watch it later today. Tell us a bit of what you think is worthy of our attention and why.

I have heard so many different takes on this "crisis" in the last 3 days, that I am just about burned out.

[Amanda]

He just got stabbed in the back by another jew...lol

:o
(https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1578333451081.png)


LOL!! That's the way the Jews play it--that's why they rule from behind the scenes, so nothing gets blamed on them.

Here's the latest from Ron Paul (my President:)

Why Was Soleimani Assassinated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkRSXW4swFk


-talked about Soleimani being there on a diplomatic mission to broker peace with Saudi (well we all know who the world trouble makers are who never want peace). (I've also heard that this was somehow at the request of the US as a way of setting up a trap so they could kill him--pretty sure the Israelis called for his assassination back in Oct.)

-talked about the Iraqis voting to get the US out of there and how we shouldn't be there in the first place.

[Amanda]

Just listened to Ron Paul youtube on the Soleimani assassination and saw someone in the comments say they loved him after his "what if" speech. I never heard of it, so I looked it up and here it is:

Ron Paul: Amazing What if Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HTH6GT3os4

[midnight rambler]

Pretty interesting take by Scott Adams:

https://www.pscp.tv/ScottAdamsSays/1djxXRPARmeGZ

TLDW: The Supreme Leader may have feared Soleimani, as every year the SL got less and less popular, and Soleimani became more and more popular. Hence the SL may actually be relieved that a potential rival has been disposed of. Furthermore, even if Iran theoretically wanted peace, it may have not been viable with Soleimani around if he was the one who held the cards.

Doubtful.

https://apnews.com/14792cc1d7f73ffec8f8c425b73b44fb

[Neuro]

He just got stabbed in the back by another jew...lol

:D (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1578333451081.png)

But, but Donald Trump promised to be the greatest friend of Israel ever... :(


LOL

[Neuro]

Doubtful.

https://apnews.com/14792cc1d7f73ffec8f8c425b73b44fb

I had a feeling from the beginning that this was the equivalent of the murder of Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo 1914 which got the balls rolling and started WWI, with it’s pre-drawn lines. US-UK vs Russia-China in Middle East this time. EU will stay out of it. China needs to get involved as it has an enormous debt bubble collapse coming, that can only be properly defaulted with the communist party remaining in power if they have a major war to fight. WW3 has started. It was nice knowing you guys. I expect a dirty bomb soon in a major US City. It will be blamed on Iran.

[PatColo]

He just got stabbed in the back by another jew...lol

:D (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1578333451081.png)

Haaretz May 2019
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENk0K2zUYAEvtwz?format=jpg&name=small

[Dachsie]

Amanda, I have long admired Ron Paul though I do not subscribe to libertarian ideas of "free trade".

Dr. Paul is selling "Peace and Prosperity" these days nobody doesn't like Peace during times like right now when it looks like the international banksters need to get another big war going to move forward toward their One World Death and Slavery System for All.

I just want people to think beyond the issue with "the Jews" as it popular to discuss here.

Just remember both the Republicans and the Democrats and the Libertarians, the socialists and the communists and the Marxists, for over one hundred years have been pushing FOR international free trade and AGAINST USA (and other countries') NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY in a million ways to the destruction of the average American worker and family. They sell their evil destruction for their "New World Order" under rosy sounding labels like "Freedom" Prosperity Peace Non-interventionism "our democracy" "our constitutional republic" but those are just propaganda sales pitches.

We the people always come out on the short end of stick.

Robert Strauss, the Chicago University "father of the neocons" was appointed as trade adviser by Democrat President Carter and as trade ambassador to the Soviet Union by Republican President George H W Bush.

They are all crooks as far as pushing the One World Death and Slavery System for all.

To get a little history on how far back these war mongering banksters and their lie wars go, suggest watch

these two videos originally aired in about 1997 during Clinton administration. Mr. Gill explains how all the evil works.

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX6zHUtmmg4...

start watching at about 17:40 find the Part 2 with Mr. Gill at

Trade and the New World Order Part 2

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zmGSO6qGAo...

[C.Martel]

#Syria’s christians compare #Soleimani to Jesus. American evengelical Zionists hate Middle East Christians.

https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1214331477736882177

[Jewboo]

...WW3 has started. It was nice knowing you guys. I expect a dirty bomb soon in a major US City. It will be blamed on Iran.



This sentiment was common at GIM1. K-os feared that Florida would get blown up by a methane gas leak in the Gulf and fled in her Motor Home (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33667-The-Mystery-Tour). Ponce was stockpiling toilet paper in Oregon. Many of us were stockpiling PREPPER (https://survivalpulse.com/top-50-survival-blogs/) stuff. Deja Vu.

:D

[C.Martel]

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
Share
Tweet
The Trump administration claimed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks” on US interests when it assassinated him. That lie was just destroyed, but not before countless corporate media outlets transmitted it to the public.
By Max Blumenthal

Desperate to justify the US drone assassination of Iranian Major General Qasem Soleimani, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo insisted that Washington had made an “intelligence-based assessment” that Soleimani was “actively planning in the region” to attack American interests before he was killed.

President Donald Trump justified his fateful decision to kill the Iranian general in even more explicit language, declaring that Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks” on US diplomatic facilities and personnel across the Middle East.

“We took action last night to stop a war,” Trump claimed. “We did not take action to start a war.”

Trump’s dubious rationale for an indisputably criminal assassination has been repeated widely across corporate media networks, and often without any skepticism or debate.

At a January 3 State Department briefing, where reporters finally got the chance to demand evidence for the claim of an “imminent” threat, one US official erupted in anger.

“Jesus, do we have to explain why we do these things?” he barked at the press.

Two days later, when Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi addressed his country’s parliament, Trump’s justification for killing Soleimani was exposed as a cynical lie.

According to Abdul-Mahdi, he had planned to meet Soleimani on the morning the general was killed to discuss a diplomatic rapproachment that Iraq was brokering between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Abdul-Mahdi said that Trump personally thanked him for the efforts, even as he was planning the hit on Soleimani – thus creating the impression that the Iranian general was safe to travel to Baghdad.

Soleimani had arrived in Baghdad not to plan attacks on American targets, but to coordinate de-escalation with Saudi Arabia. Indeed, he was killed while on an actual peace mission that could have created political distance between the Gulf monarchy and members of the US-led anti-Iran axis like Israel.

The catastrophic results of Soleimani’s killing recall the Obama administration’s 2016 assassination of Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansur, a Taliban leader who was eager to negotiate a peaceful end to the US occupation of Afghanistan. Mansur’s death wound up empowering hardline figures in the Taliban who favored a total military victory over the US and triggered an uptick in violence across the country, dooming hopes for a negotiated exit.

Since Soleimani’s assassination, Iraq’s parliament has voted to expel all US troops from the country and Iran’s Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has sworn to exact a “severe revenge” on the “the criminals who have stained their hands with [Soleimani’s] and the other martyrs’ blood…”

Trump, for his part, tweeted a litany of gangster-like threats, promising to destroy Iranian cultural sites if it retaliated and pledging to sanction Iraq “like they’ve never been before” if it ousted US troops.

Trump’s treacherous assassination has brought the US closer to war than ever before against a country more militarily potent than any adversary it has faced since the Korean War. And as with the failed US invasion of Iraq, Washington’s casus belli for triggering this conflict was based on falsified intelligence sold to Americans by administration officials, and on a pliant Beltway media acting as their megaphone.

With its claim of “imminent attacks,” the Trump administration has essentially re-mixed Condoleeza Rice’s 2003 warning that “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” Back then, the US attacked a sovereign state to rid it of WMD that did not exist. This time, it killed the second-most important Iranian official to prevent a killing spree that was not on the way. And Trump administration officials knew they were lying.

In fact, Pompeo pitched assassinating Soleimani to Trump several months ago, well before any attacks were “imminent.” And in the wake of the general’s killing, a US official revealed to the New York Times that the NSA had intercepted “communications the United States had between Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and General Suleimani showing that the ayatollah had not yet approved any plans by the general for an attack.”

But the preponderance of evidence exposing Trump’s basis for killing Soleimani as a titanic lie has not generated the same level of media interest as the lie itself.

On January 3, CNN assigned three reporters to disseminate the Trump administration’s disinformation about Soleimani, claiming without a hint of critical detachment that he was “planning specific attacks on US interests, including US personnel.”

After the story went live, CNN’s lead reporter, Jim Sciutto, reached out to another official US source to “confirm” his now-discredited piece of war propaganda. In Sciutto’s mind, if more than one US official says a thing, it must be true.

Sciutto is not just any run-of-the-mill national security reporter. During the Obama era, he accepted a job as chief of staff at the US Embassy in Beijing, placing himself at the center of Washington’s gathering Cold War with China. Now back behind CNN’s anchor desk, Sciutto poses as a ferocious critic of Trump while providing the Pentagon and State Department with reliable stenographic services.

No president in recent history has been despised more viscerally by the Beltway press corps than Trump. Nearly everything he says is met with disdain and suspicion, even when he is telling the truth.

But when Trump and his administration attempt to lie the public into war against a designated evildoer, a swath of the corporate media responds with reflexive trust, then shrugs when the lie is exposed in broad daylight.
Max Blumenthal

Max Blumenthal is an award-winning journalist and the author of several books, including best-selling Republican Gomorrah, Goliath, The Fifty One Day War, and The Management of Savagery. He has produced print articles for an array of publications, many video reports, and several documentaries, including Killing Gaza. Blumenthal founded The Grayzone in 2015 to shine a journalistic light on America’s state of perpetual war and its dangerous domestic repercussions.


https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/06/soleimani-peace-mission-assassinated-trump-lie-imminent-attacks/

[woodman]

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks


Soleimani had arrived in Baghdad not to plan attacks on American targets, but to coordinate de-escalation with Saudi Arabia. Indeed, he was killed while on an actual peace mission that could have created political distance between the Gulf monarchy and members of the US-led anti-Iran axis like Israel



If this is the case, it may explain the real reason he was offed. Can't have any wild eyed peace mongers on the loose. Bad for business.

[woodman]

If this is the case, it may explain the real reason he was offed. Can't have any wild eyed peace mongers on the loose. Bad for business.

In the same vein; I just watched a humorous movie called "War Inc."

[Cebu_4_2]

Hillary 2020 FTW! Yeah!

[Dachsie]

good EMJones rant on PressTV - 2m:
https://twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1214225367843651585

+ the full EMJ/PressTV interview, 28m:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYFiv73kQis



The New Iranian Crisis - E. Michael Jones' Analysis (https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYFiv73kQis/)
We are faced with a new crisis with Iran, now that American forces have assasinated Iran's military leader Qasem Soleimani. In this interview Dr. Jones discusses the cause of this crisis, explores the reasons why Donald Trump ordered this assassination, and analyzes what kind of response will come from Iranian retaliation.


EMJ says the immediate cause of this is that President Trump rejected the JSPOA, which is the "nuclear agreement with Iran."

I am fine with EMJ's assessment that Israel is the cause of this assassination but EMJ keeps saying Trump was acting against the wishes of the American people by not "agreeing to the treaty with Iran."

EMJ never mentions that there never was any agreement for Trump to reject and not sign. There were NO SIGNATURES AT ALL of anyone on that "agreement." I have about three different mainstream media articles that say that such "an agreement" never existed.

I would also mention that it was around the time of that big media talk about the JCPOA agreement that Obama was sending about 1.7 billion U S dollars in cash on pallets to Iran.

"The U.S. government has traced some of the $1.7 billion released to Iran by the Obama administration to Iranian-backed terrorists in the two years since the cash was transferred."

If EMJ 's connecting cause of assassination is because Trump would not agree to a nuclear agreement with Iran, EMJ is deliberately misdirecting. Trump never signed such an agreement because such an agreement was just another Israeli trap game, one that did not even exist.


______________

Here is one of the stories stating info about this JCPOA agreement...

https://usawatchdog.com/trump-winning-trade-war-iran-used-us-dollar-media-propaganda-continues/

Excerpt...

"The Obama Administration continually told the public it would not allow Iran to use the dollar for transactions, but did so anyway as part of the Iran nuclear deal that was supposed to curtail its nuclear programs. This is on top of the fact that the so-called “Iran Nuclear Deal,” or JCPOA, was never signed – by anyone.

There is a trade war brewing, and it involves Germany, France, Canada and the rest of the G7 nations. It seem all the world leaders are down with the one world government and New World Order except President Trump, who is for “America First.” Trump has backed out of many “deals” supported by the New World Order, and that is exposing them for the crooks they really are and they do not like it.

The mainstream media (MSM) is not letting up on Trump and continues to spew fake news and ignore the real news because they are just part of the Democrat Super-PAC

[Cebu_4_2]

People were attacking the embassy. Trump fixt it. Reading deeper is stupid.


EMJ says the immediate cause of this is that President Trump rejected the JSPOA, which is the "nuclear agreement with Iran."

I am fine with EMJ's assessment that Israel is the cause of this assassination but EMJ keeps saying Trump was acting against the wishes of the American people by not "agreeing to the treaty with Iran."

EMJ never mentions that there never was any agreement for Trump to reject and not sign. There were NO SIGNATURES AT ALL of anyone on that "agreement." I have about three different mainstream media articles that say that such "an agreement" never existed.

I would also mention that it was around the time of that big media talk about the JCPOA agreement that Obama was sending about 1.7 billion U S dollars in cash on pallets to Iran.

"The U.S. government has traced some of the $1.7 billion released to Iran by the Obama administration to Iranian-backed terrorists in the two years since the cash was transferred."

If EMJ 's connecting cause of assassination is because Trump would not agree to a nuclear agreement with Iran, EMJ is deliberately misdirecting. Trump never signed such an agreement because such an agreement was just another Israeli trap game, one that did not even exist.

[midnight rambler]

If this is the case, it may explain the real reason he was offed. Can't have any wild eyed peace mongers on the loose. Bad for business.

Indeed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8fsUvs1ZTE

[Dachsie]

CORRECTION of my previous post. My Bad!

CHANGE:

"Robert Strauss, the Chicago University "father of the neocons" was appointed as trade adviser by Democrat President Carter and as trade ambassador to the Soviet Union by Republican President George H W Bush. "

TO:

"Robert Strauss was appointed as trade adviser by Democrat President Carter and as U S ambassador to the Soviet Union by Republican President George H W Bush. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._Strauss

ROBERT Strauss was a long-time Texas Democratic operative associated with Lyndon Johnson back to the late 1930s. He also was closely associated with Lloyd Bentson and several Republican operatives.

My bad mistake was saying Robert Strauss was "father of the neocons". No, that was LEO Strauss and it was correct that he started the whole neocon evil as a professor at the University of Chicago. This is when the Brotherhood of Darkness playing all sides in orchestrating the takedown of the USA to erect a One World Death and Slavery System for All (aka "New World Order") decided to put some politicos in place going by the fake "Republican" label and pretending to be a new kind of conservative - hence "neocon."

" Leo Strauss
Classical philosophy specialist and father of neoconservativism

Leo Strauss (September 20, 1899 – October 18, 1973) was a German-American political philosopher and classicist who specialized in classical political philosophy...
He was born in Germany to Jewish parents and later emigrated from Germany to the United States.
Wikipedia"

Here is an important article that explains the interconnectedness of molding the minds of the people by use of public intellectuals and every aspect of media and education and politics, with explanation of Strauss and neoconservatives and false flag events on U S soil over the last century.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-how-the-cia-invented-conspiracy-theories/

American Pravda: How the CIA Invented "Conspiracy Theories"
Ron Unz • September 5, 2016 • 2,600 Words • 480 Comments • Reply


__________________

I offer this to say that now that some commentators are saying Trump all bad or Trump all good and some are saying Iran all bad and Iran all good and most are saying nothing at all about Israel and its role in every aspect of the U S government and foreign policy for at least the last century.

We all are not being told about the all-encompassing conspiracy of the top operatives of Israel and international geopolitics and the USA. THAT is the common denominator that all must omit in molding all of our minds now.

[Jewboo]

Leo Strauss (September 20, 1899 – October 18, 1973) He was born in Germany to Jewish parents and later emigrated from Germany to the United States.



The only fact we need to know.

:rolleyes:

[Amanda]

Love Ron Paul!! As usual, calling out the BS!


Weekly Update --- Why I Don't Trust Trump on Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmdlVPaLM8c

[Jewboo]

Love Ron Paul!! As usual, calling out the BS!

He should call out his own son. (http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/maxresdefault-2.jpg)

[old steel]

Soleimani was a bad actor for the black hats in the CIA, protected by Obama

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/01/07/intel-shows-soleimani-was-a-cia-asset-protected-by-obama-administration/

[midnight rambler]

Soleimani was a bad actor for the black hats in the CIA, protected by Obama

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/01/07/intel-shows-soleimani-was-a-cia-asset-protected-by-obama-administration/

Did a neocon write that??

[Amanda]

More goyim slaughter for the blood-thirsty jews:

"We're Going To War, Bro": Elite 82nd Airborne In Largest 'Fast Deployment' In A Decade

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/were-going-war-bro-elite-82nd-airborne-largest-fast-deployment-decade

Angelo John Gage message to MAGA-- Trump has changed, not draining the swamp, and surrounding himself with Zionist Neocons

https://twitter.com/AngeloJohnGage/status/1213868675306020875


This guy also says we are going to more war and that there will be a market crash, but doesn't mention the jews/israelis
END GAME... DEPOPULATION VIA WAR AND A MAJOR MARKET CRASH. By Gregory Mannarinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qudOA19ydXg

[Amanda]

Did a neocon write that??

Yes, sounds like the usual NeoCon Zionists propaganda.

Bottom line is that Soleimani was the person most responsible for the defeat of ISIS, those psychopathic, barbaric, monsters who behead children and rip the hearts out of people and eat them, you know, those guys that the Jew-controlled US created, supported, funded, trained, along with the blood-thirsty israelis who also provided medical treatment to those monsters.

The US and Israel work with and are on the side of the TERRORISTS, and this guy Soleimani was the guy fighting the terrorists that the US and Israhell sent over there.

[Amanda]

Just found this latest one from Ron Paul:

Iraq 'Pull-Out' Letter: Mistake...Or More Deception?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHAeOQtWr5c&feature=youtu.be

[Jewboo]

More goyim slaughter for the blood-thirsty jews:

"We're Going To War, Bro": Elite 82nd Airborne In Largest 'Fast Deployment' In A Decade



Amanda gets it. (https://i.imgur.com/48iKFAo.jpg)

:)

[PatColo]

A Partial List of the Many Alt-Media Figures Shilling for War with Iran on the Left and Right
(https://russia-insider.com/en/partial-list-many-alt-media-figures-shilling-war-iran-left-and-right/ri28133)
One good thing about this Iran crisis is that separates the fakes from the real thing.

Eric Striker (https://russia-insider.com/en/authors/eric-striker) (National Justice (https://russia-insider.com/en/publications/national-justice)) 7 hours ago | 1000 words 1,135 23 (https://russia-insider.com/en/partial-list-many-alt-media-figures-shilling-war-iran-left-and-right/ri28133#disqus_thread)

A number of figures in the alt-media and extreme-left movement have surprised their audiences by rationalizing the Trump administration's Israeli-directed (https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1213532117214171136?s=20) push towards war with Iran.

The consensus between high profile voices on the Zionist "far-right" and anarcho-neocon "far-left" in America and Britain reflect the party line in Israel, where even Amir Peretz of the ostensibly left-wing "opposition" Labor party hailed the Pentagon's decision (https://archive.fo/ZUPZG) to assassinate Maj. General Qassem Soleimani by luring him to Iraq under the false pretense (https://twitter.com/janearraf/status/1213823941321592834) of peace negotiations.

Very disappointingSpencer Sunshine, a self-proclaimed anarchist and prominent voice in the American "antifa" scene who has been accused of Zionist entryism in the past, took to twitter to reiterate (https://archive.fo/Z3jNj) Sean Hannity's script on the killing: that the Iranians brought it upon themselves by "antagonizing" America and "meddling" in Iraq. It speaks to the state of the modern coopted left that somebody like Sunshine can express the Israeli government's line and still survive the scrutiny of his peers. Sunshine is very suspicious of anti-war sentiment due to the fact that Jews like Sheldon Adelson and Jared Kushner are responsible for our over-the-top Iran policy. He has spent much of his career fighting what he calls "left-wing anti-Semitism" (principled anti-Zionism).

Caroline Orr, another fanatical (https://archive.fo/n2JEJ)Jewish supporter of "antifa," chastised "fellow" leftists for ignoring Soleimani's supposed "slaughter" (https://archive.fo/ZS4wA) of Syrians during the fight to save the country from ISIS. After some pushback, Orr is backpedaling, but her initial approval shows the Jewish nexus between the virulent anti-white forces on the left and the appetite for war against Iran on the so-called right. She also has made a name for herself for promoting fake news about "Russiagate" and attacking anti-war presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard.

While a branch of the left led by "tankies" (Workers World Party and Revolutionary Communist Party) behind the ANSWER coalition are adamantly against imperialism, many anarchists and "democratic socialists" support the CIA-led protest groups we have seen in recent months in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, which have largely subsided but were intended to purge pro-Iran political factions. These groups are meant to incite a civil war, so these left-wing voices basically support regime change as well, just not by a full US ground invasion.

The ANSWER coalition's anti-war protests that erupted across America were small, showing that the left is not passionate about opposing this conflict. Figures like AOC and high ranking advisors in the Bernie Sanders campaign all attended the Zionist Dov Hikind's (https://national-justice.com/new-york-blackface-wearing-zionist-extremist-dov-hikind-will-lead-march-put-blacks-notice) march against black "anti-Semitism" yesterday, but not any of the anti-war rallies.

On the other side of the coin, Anne Marie Waters of the "For Britain" group has fully embraced (https://twitter.com/GroyperCarl/status/1214145148231323649?s=20) an invasion of Iran. Waters, a remnant of the largely Jewish funded "counter-jihad" movement, does not bother to articulate what the West stands to gain from such a conflict. Her only argument is a neo-liberal desire to impose gay plutocracy on the unwilling Iranians so that Israel can safely continue its expansionist foreign policy.

Mike Cernovich, who made a name for himself in 2016 in part for his non-interventionist views on Syria, has been reduced (https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1212941277810982918?s=20) to an Iraq-war era Toby Keith style jingo. He got so much pushback that he too was forced to "clarify" his opposition to war overnight.

Alex Jones of InfoWars has released a new conspiracy theory (https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7Jm0OJU0yvn/) claiming that the Jews who control Donald Trump's government had to set off a chain-reaction that will lead to a regional conflagration in order to prevent World War III. According to Jones, the Obama administration is responsible for tensions with Iran by engaging with diplomacy with the country instead of attacking it. His audience isn't buying it. Over half of the reactions (https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7Jm0OJU0yvn/) on his Bitchute video on the topic are negative.

Nick Fuentes of the Youtube show "America First" has also come under fire (https://twitter.com/PagliacciDorati/status/1214004691438145537?s=20) for recent statements on Telegram. While he prefaces his statements by saying he technically opposes a full war with Iran, he followed this by cheerleading threats by Zionists in Washington to bomb ancient Persian cultural sites, calls Iran a "degenerate Muslim shithole," celebrates "America bullying ppl and throwing around missiles", and comes to the defense of the "American-led" globalist military order, which Trump himself repeatedly criticized throughout his life and, as Tucker Carlson has said, won the presidency in large part by running against it.

The mealy-mouthed Charlie Kirk of TPUSA, a libertarian-Zionist think-tank Trump has recently adopted to engage in outreach for his 2020 campaign, tepidly approved of Washington's hit on Soleimani, but has also come out in support of full military withdrawal (https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1213934031147896832?s=20) from Iraq.

Any military entanglement with Iran polls very poorly in America.

The latest opinion research (https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/03/killing-suleimani-iran-tension-trump-fault/) finds that almost 70% of Americans believe heightened tensions with Iran are entirely the fault of the Trump administration. Even after Trump and Mike Pompeo accused Iran of attacking the oil fields of "ally" Saudi Arabia on September 14th, 75% of Americans responded that a war with Iran was completely unwarranted.

While a vocal minority of people are eager to see explosions and dead Arabs at any cost, the majority of Americans understand that a war with Iran will not be like Afghanistan or Iraq. Public support is also not anywhere near where it was for invading Afghanistan and Iraq. Such a conflict will be felt at home, either through Iranian sleeper cells attacking US targets, large numbers of dead American soldiers in the Middle East, or exploding food and gas prices. The argument that killing Soleimani has made Americans safer was widely mocked after the State Department put out a subsequent statement telling US citizens (https://www.foxnews.com/world/state-department-urges-u-s-citizens-to-leave-iraq-immediately) to get out of Iraq immediately.

White workers have no stake in this Israeli-dictated war. The current failure of the left and right to hold a full-throated line against the coming catastrophe is why a third position is needed now more than ever.


Source: National Justice (https://national-justice.com/figures-left-and-right-come-out-support-unpopular-anti-iran-antagonism)

[old steel]

Here’s a pic of Soleimani’s Instagram account where he used to post memes of himself calling in air strikes on the White House while standing on the White House South Lawn.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENonHbxWwAAUEwr.jpg

Mess with the bull, get the horns.

[Amanda]

@PatColo- interesting, thanks. Looks like that Eric Striker guy is the same guy who posted this:

https://www.unz.com/estriker/the-line-in-the-sand/


After 9/11, Soleimani offered intelligence and aid to the United States government, but was rejected. Soleimani’s guidance was instrumental in helping Hezbollah defeat Israel during the 33-days war in 2006, which required surgical precision due to the massive US troop buildup in the region that Israel thought would give it cover. In Iraq and Syria, Soleimani was the single most important figure in taking these two countries back from ISIS and Al-Qaeda. When ISIS, with all their American weapons, was on the brink of taking Baghdad, the General was shuttled in as a moralizing supervisor, uniting Shi’ite militias to embrace the fight of their lives. In Syria, Soleimani led non-sectarian battle groups of Muslims and Christians to drive the barbarians Israel and America had unleashed on the East Mediterranean state out.


Soleimani’s life mission was familiar to those of us struggling against Zionist genocide against us in our own lands: to free his people of not just Israeli menacing, but international Jewry as a whole. His military career saw the castration of the Saudis, the containment of Israeli expansion, the last-minute salvation of Christian and other religious minorities, and until today, a rising, final resistance to the consolidation of Jewish power over the whole world.

[BrewTech]

Here’s a pic of Soleimani’s Instagram account where he used to post memes of himself calling in air strikes on the White House while standing on the White House South Lawn.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENonHbxWwAAUEwr.jpg

Mess with the bull, get the horns.

Ah. Another MEMRI contribution.

[PatColo]

@PatColo- interesting, thanks. Looks like that Eric Striker guy is the same guy who posted this:

https://www.unz.com/estriker/the-line-in-the-sand/

Yeah Eric's main site appears to be https://national-justice.com/ but I see Unz.com (http://unz.com) & Russia-Insider.com (https://russia-insider.com/), both must-bookmark sites, both reprint Eric's articles.

Eric also does a radio show with Mike Enoch called Strike & Mike; they've had EMJ on a couple times now (https://culturewars.com/podcasts/category/Strike+and+Mike).

[old steel]

Just the facts, mam.

https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1214598750674571267

[woodman]

Here’s a pic of Soleimani’s Instagram account where he used to post memes of himself calling in air strikes on the White House while standing on the White House South Lawn.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENonHbxWwAAUEwr.jpg

Mess with the bull, get the horns.
Your post jibes very well with the one before it showing how even those that you may feel 'get it' in general, can turn out to be total fucktards and surprise the shit out of you. So you feel that his 'memes' entitle the assholes who have been calling for the destruction of his nation to act in this outrageous and illegal manner?

"Mess with the bull, get the horns"? To think in this vein would lead one to the conclusion that anyone who expresses a hatred and dissatisfaction with our criminal, malevolent elite deserves just such treatment as Soleimani.

[old steel]

Soleimani was a terrorist, nothing more.

See above.

[Amanda]

https://www.unz.com/estriker/the-line-in-the-sand/
Soleimani was the single most important figure in taking these two countries back from ISIS and Al-Qaeda. When ISIS, with all their American weapons, was on the brink of taking Baghdad, the General was shuttled in as a moralizing supervisor, uniting Shi’ite militias to embrace the fight of their lives. In Syria, Soleimani led non-sectarian battle groups of Muslims and Christians to drive the barbarians Israel and America had unleashed on the East Mediterranean state out

***

The US and Israel are the TERRORISTS!!!

America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group

https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

The US is nothing but a terrorist invader in foreign lands
(https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881)

[woodman]

Soleimani was a terrorist, nothing more.

See above.
Depends on your view. Terrorist or freedom fighter. I personally don't know the man or his methods, but to see our government act in such a manner, criminal and completely out of bounds, so obviously being directed by Zionist intent and then to see it cheerleaded is beyond disgusting.

[old steel]

Depends on your view. Terrorist or freedom fighter. I personally don't know the man or his methods, but to see our government act in such a manner, criminal and completely out of bounds, so obviously being directed by Zionist intent and then to see it cheerleaded is beyond disgusting.


So this woman is a Zionist plant?

https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1214598750674571267

[Jewboo]

Just the facts, mam.

https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1214598750674571267

Old Steel's Source and apparent pal.....OY VEY ! ! !

)0( (https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1056267221541023746?lang=en)

[midnight rambler]

So this woman is a Zionist plant?

https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1214598750674571267

She looks jooish, so yeah, very likely a Zionist plant. I see Book busted your jooish source. lol

You do realize that there are Joos openly living in Iran, and the Iranian government and the Iranian people leave the joos living among them in peace...right?

[old steel]

You do remember Ponce reprimanding us all regarding the difference between Zionists and Jews, correct?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5 million Jews in Iran i believe, could be wrong.

I remember Bibi a few years back calling on all the Jews living there to move back to Isreal and they told him to go fuck himself.

[midnight rambler]

And your source is 100% Zionist agenda free, you're sure of that, right?

[old steel]

Nope i am not, just passing it along.

She identifies as Iranian and talks the talk.

[Amanda]

sort of side note here...

Found these 3 comments over at zerohedge:


Repo started it...and desperation cover FED failure by smokescreen of war and blame Iran for it.

5 minutes ago

Wells Fargo is the dead bank walking.
3 minutes ago


Bingo.... Very insightful observation. And the coming crisis in banking will be called "Cyber attack" from the enemy. I sure hear the words cyber attacks repeated a lot lately.



Now, this guy, who I kind of trust seems to be saying the same about the repo market (which I don't really get), but anyway, he seems to be saying that the rest of the stuff I've been hearing from "conservative" hosts on Fox about how the "economy is booming" (which I never really believed and was always distrustful about) is basically a load of crap

Anyway, posting here in case others can shed light on this. Greg Mannarino seems to be saying the country is toast (in terms of the economy--was really toast and finished back in 1913), which would explain why there is a rush to war, since that's always what they do (All wars are Banker Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlunSNY5B48)

(Must Watch). The Current Market Valuations CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED.. This Is What's Coming. Mannarino


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hn8xZrarIY


And in case there are some here who don't know that it's always the jews that get us into these wars, Benjamin Freedman tells the truth about how the jews got us into WW1 and WW2. I know jewboo hates when I post jews, but I can't find anyone else with this info--Freedman was there, so he knows what happened, he was the right hand man to Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, back in the day (Soros of yesterday), then he got so disgusted with them that he broke with them and told the truth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

it's always the jews who get us into these wars--back in 1961, Ben Freedman said the " the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here at this -- time I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement -- the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. " And it's obviously still the same today.

And on Bernard Baruch, if anyone has access to rense audio archive, this one would be worth getting and posting: http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=16103.0 ( posted audio link there, but now it's dead). Anyway, it was the best research I've heard that tied history together and the Jewish hand behind it all.

[midnight rambler]

Nope i am not, just passing it along.

She identifies as Iranian and talks the talk.

Quoting your source:


Yes, I’m a Jew who strongly supports Israel and believes in the importance of the US-Saudi relationship.

Yeah, no Zionist agenda there! lol

[Amanda]

"I've never seen a President — I don't care who he is — stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
Thomas H. Moorer
(1912 - 2004)
Admiral,
US Navy & Chairman,
Joint Chiefs of Staff during interview on
24 August 1983

[old steel]

Q says Israel is last.

That is what i'm counting on.

Looking more and more like they are walking right into the trap.

https://qanon.pub

[Amanda]

Q says Israel is last.

That is what i'm counting on.

Looking more and more like they are walking right into the trap.

https://qanon.pub


Qanon is on OBVIOUS ISRAELI PSYOP

[Cebu_4_2]

Don't matter the trap is set, the animals are trapped. Exponential tricks are played to untrap. And the wall comes tumbling down.

[EE_]

Gold over $1,600 this week? I think so. Americans are not safe anywhere in the world right now and this problem isn't going away anytime soon.

What did I win? Gold $1,610!

Trump is making even us richer! God bless Trump!

[Cebu_4_2]

What did I win? Gold $1,610!

Nothing, I cashed in silver at 49.50 and sold a bunch. Without that I wouldn't have a home for my family.

[EE_]

Nothing, I cashed in silver at 49.50 and sold a bunch. Without that I wouldn't have a home for my family.

Very smart of you!

[Cebu_4_2]

Very smart of you!

Fvcing luck of the draw man. Luckiest sale in 40 years.

[midnight rambler]

All you chest-beaters should be happy now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html

[EE_]

All you chest-beaters should be happy now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html

If we lose a lot of soldiers, it may hurt Trump's 2020 election? I hope we don't lose any.

[Jewboo]

All you chest-beaters should be happy now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html


I won't get excited until Tel Aviv actually gets bombed. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1400883834010.jpg)

:rolleyes:

Iran fires TENS of ballistic missiles at US bases in Iraq in operation 'Martyr Soleimani' after promising 'crushing revenge' for Trump's decision to kill the top general in drone strike (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html)

[Dachsie]

Here is another video put out by Ron Paul today, Jan 7 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHAeOQtWr5c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHAeOQtWr5c

Iraq 'Pull-Out' Letter: Mistake...Or More Deception?
11,191 views
•Streamed live 8 hours ago
1.2K
19
Share
Save
RonPaulLibertyReport
204K subscribers
How could a "draft letter" from the US CENTCOM to the Iraqi leadership announcing the US withdrawal from Iraq have mysteriously leaked to the media yesterday? Is operational security so shattered that what must be a highly classified document can just drop from the sky? Or is there something else behind it?
Category
News & Politics

at 13:31, Mr. Adams, co-host with Ron Paul, says "Pompeo and Pence they lie. Every single sentence is a lie" then he and Ron Paul go on to say they are basing their policies on their own lies and you get GIGO Garbage In Garbage Out. They were only discussing this letter saying USA is going to remove our troops from Iraq and discussing this current crisis situation brought on by assassination of Saleimani.

However, I think the way our USA government "leaders'" (including Ron Paul about 9-11-01) quietly accepting and giving tacit ascent and going along with the big lies of the many false events on US soil, lets say just the ones beginning November 1963, have been themselves lying over and over again a putting out heinous actions by the U S government based on those False Event big lies. GIGO indeed!

It is only last few days that you hear Dr. Paul start liberally using the term "neocons."

[Jewboo]

THE IRONY: Israel is just an innocent bystander. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1406816526851.jpg)


:rolleyes:

[PatColo]

I won't get excited until Tel Aviv actually gets bombed. (https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1400883834010.jpg)

:rolleyes:

Iran fires TENS of ballistic missiles at US bases in Iraq in operation 'Martyr Soleimani' after promising 'crushing revenge' for Trump's decision to kill the top general in drone strike (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html)


another izzy/joo FF until proven otherwise... :rolleyes:

Acid test #1: is global JSM going wall to wall re this 'event' ???

check.

[Hitch]

Fvcing luck of the draw man. Luckiest sale in 40 years.

You are a liar. You've trolled these forums for years, gathering intel to report.

You have been paid to trade in your honor, your ethics.

People who sell their souls like you spend their days in hell when they die.

[Jewboo]

You are a liar. You've trolled these forums for years, gathering intel to report.

You have been paid to trade in your honor, your ethics.

People who sell their souls like you spend their days in hell when they die.



You recently reported another member to the Mods for name-calling and got him temp-banned for two days. For name-calling.

:D

[Hitch]

You recently reported another member to the Mods for name-calling and got him temp-banned for two days. For name-calling.

:D


You needed the check to your ego. :) If you are butt hurt over that, you are more sensitive than me. I've been banned a few times myself here.

What I don't like, is your lying. You made up that PatCo financed his RV. You made that up, you were wrong. Your lack of honesty destroys any respect anyone can have from you.

[Hitch]

I am sorry, I've been a member of this forum for over 10 years.

Cebu. Don't trust him. Never have. .Gov agent. He's on the .gov tit profiling us.

Jewboo "Book". Liar, dishonest person. Heart might be in the right place, but ethics bipolar.

[Jewboo]

You are a liar.







:rolleyes:



Let's see if Moderator Ares bans you for two days for name calling both Cebu_4_2 and me in violation of our forum rules. See my sig line:

[Jewboo]

I am sorry, I've been a member of this forum for over 10 years.

Cebu. Don't trust him. Never have. .Gov agent. He's on the .gov tit profiling us.

Jewboo "Book". Liar, dishonest person. Heart might be in the right place, but ethics bipolar.

:rolleyes: See my sig line.

[Hitch]

:rolleyes:



Let's see if Moderator Ares bans you for two days for name calling both Cebu_4_2 and me in violation of our forum rules. See my sig line:

Book, Ares is a good man. I'll make things easy.

You Book, are an #removed#. You could contribute to society, but you don't. You criticize and insult others.

If you weren't an #removed#, I'd happily kick your ass.

Cebu, is another story. Cebu, is exactly what this forum should be against. The guy is .gov all the way. He's profiling the fuck out of this forum, including your old ass too Book.

Ban me. Tell me to fuck off. I don't give a shit.

Free speech is free speech.

[vacuum]

another izzy/joo FF until proven otherwise... :rolleyes:

Luckily, this attack wasn't done by some "proxy", it came directly from Iran with them taking credit for it.

So whatever comes out of this, at least we know that it wasn't some FF which would have been probably the worst scenario.

[vacuum]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html

This is a perfect opportunity to start a war with Iran.

Will you agree that if a war doesn't come out of this then Trump isn't 100% bad?

[PatColo]

You are a liar.

frankly, when cebu said;


Nothing, I cashed in silver at 49.50 and sold a bunch.

"liar" was my first impulse too... he's been here @ GSUS since its Apr 2010 inception; PMs peaked early May '11... where's cebu's posts from around then either boasting, or if on his sale day maybe declaring with trepidation that he'd sold "a bunch" that day & fears he may miss the ride to $100++, etc... he'd be friggin legend around here!

instead, now ~9 years later, he's reporting his big sale for, what we all know now with 20/20 hindsight, was just pennies from Ag's tippy top...:rolleyes:

cebu tell us again about the 1000s of not so hot incel women you've mercy-banged... :D

[PatColo]

This is a perfect opportunity to start a war with Iran.

Will you agree that if a war doesn't come out of this then Trump isn't 100% bad?

yes, most likely not another Dinjoo-Nuffin FF....

interesting divergence in Iranian vs Trump re casualties now; Trump saying zero casualties, Iranians saying 80 dead... how will war mongering JSM play this?!
https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1214789726080655361

this person has an interesting take; namely this may all be mutual face-saving theater to AVOID war:
https://twitter.com/MikePsJuice/status/1214746428830081026
https://twitter.com/MikePsJuice/status/1214746806975897600

even warmongering zioCon dwarf ben shapiro has now piped up with
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1214746597910695936

[Hitch]

"liar" was my first impulse too... he's been here @ GSUS since its Apr 2010 inception;

You caught Book lying outright in your RV thread. He made up that you financed the RV. You called him out on his lie.

You know, it can take years to gain a man's trust. Yet, that trust can be shattered instantly.

[vacuum]

this person has an interesting take; namely this may all be mutual face-saving theater to AVOID war

I agree.

Actually, Iran had to strike back when you think about it. If they didn't, Israel would do a FF. Since Iran has responded, that has been taken away.

[PatColo]

You caught Book lying outright in your RV thread.

gotta correct you there same as I did book in GoD's RV thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?41256-Is-a-travel-trailer-a-stupid-idea-for-TSHTF-scenario)...

been living in "Chad (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chad+incel+meme&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images)":cool: since 12/17. Haven't been doing any 'touring' though; only drove it 12 miles from the dealer to this present RV park, where I leveled it up, hooked up 50 amp power, water & waste lines (every spot has a waste line port, funnels into municipal sewage), & it's remained parked since. $750/mo flat includes all power/water & wifi. There's no cable here but who cares :(?? - I get a handful of "HD through air" channels if I get a bug up my butt to watch some talmudvision.

I'll give a fuller update in GoD's RV thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?41256-Is-a-travel-trailer-a-stupid-idea-for-TSHTF-scenario) at some point, but short version for now is all's good. :)

[Neuro]

This is a perfect opportunity to start a war with Iran.

Will you agree that if a war doesn't come out of this then Trump isn't 100% bad?

Yes I would. Following a false flag “dirty bomb” attack on a Major US city, which I think is likely now, even a less than 100% bad Trump may have to fold...

[Neuro]

Anyone considered the possibility that Soleimani isn’t dead? He arrived at Baghdad International Airport and allegedly left in this convoy that was destroyed in the drone attack? Are we sure he was in it? The witnesses to the fact would be dead too. I read that Soleimani’s daughter who was calling death on US soldiers in the Middle East at his funeral has an American passport... Funny thing was she didn’t look devastated at her speech...

Which better place could an Iranian general wishing to defect to the US do it from than Baghdad International Airport? In what better way if you wish to hide your tracks?

What evidence do we actually have that Soleimani is dead?

[Cebu_4_2]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png
(http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=959175#post959175)Fvcing luck of the draw man. Luckiest sale in 40 years.


You are a liar. You've trolled these forums for years, gathering intel to report.

You have been paid to trade in your honor, your ethics.

People who sell their souls like you spend their days in hell when they die.

WTF is this all about Pete?

[Jewboo]

Book, Ares is a good man. I'll make things easy.

You Book, are an asshole. You could contribute to society, but you don't. You criticize and insult others.

If you weren't an old fuck, I'd happily kick your ass.

Cebu, is another story. Cebu, is exactly what this forum should be against. The guy is .gov all the way. He's profiling the fuck out of this forum, including your old ass too Book.

Ban me. Tell me to fuck off. I don't give a shit.

Free speech is free speech.



BUMP FOR MODERATOR ARES! (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/144/567/d77.gif) See my sig line below:

[Ares]

Well Book, you got your wish. You goaded Hitch into name calling to get a 2 day Ban.

Congrats... or something.

[Neuro]

Well Book, you got your wish. You goaded Hitch into name calling to get a 2 day Ban.

Congrats... or something.

Yeah whatever... What are we here? 10-12 middle aged men (some younger some older, perhaps a couple of women) at a forgotten place on the internet intriguing against each other like a bunch of 13 year old schoolgirls?

[Ares]

Yeah whatever... What are we here? 10-12 middle aged men (some younger some older, perhaps a couple of women) at a forgotten place on the internet intriguing against each other like a bunch of 13 year old schoolgirls?

pretty much.......

[Jewboo]

Well Book, you got your wish. You goaded Hitch into name calling to get a 2 day Ban.

Congrats... or something




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn07GeZ7Psk

[PatColo]

34s clip inside,
https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1214973373484134400

@JoyVBehar hails white nationalist Richard Spencer blasting Trump over death of Soleimani."Some good news."

[Jewboo]

President Donald Trump had ordered the US military to kill Iranian Major General Qassem Soleimani, the Pentagon has said in a statement.

“This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world,” read the statement.



Back on the OP's topic...Scott Ritter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter) opines that Iran demonstrated that it is brazenly not "deterred" by publicly and openly bombing two USA Military Bases in Iraq:

(https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477759-iran-missiles-subdued-us-strike/)Trump had to back down
(https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477759-iran-missiles-subdued-us-strike/)
This was the reality that President Trump had to wrestle with when addressing the American people regarding the state of hostilities between the US and Iran.
(https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477759-iran-missiles-subdued-us-strike/)
Trump had previously promised a massive retaliation should Iran attack any US personnel or facilities. Surrounded by his national security team, Trump had to back down from that threat, knowing full well that if he were to attack Iran, the Iranian response would be devastating for both the US and its regional allies, including Israel, Saudi Arabia and the UAE. The US might be able to inflict unimaginable devastation on Iran, but the cost paid would be unacceptably high. (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477759-iran-missiles-subdued-us-strike/)


:)

[monty]

Angelo John Gage going livestream in a few minutes with another analyst Ian Shilling? I am not familiar with



http://youtu.be/wTvwhVmpKz0

https://youtu.be/wTvwhVmpKz0

[Jewboo]

Angelo John Gage going livestream in a few minutes...

Gage is the real deal because ADL jews say he is not kosher...lol. (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Angelo_John_Gage)

:D

[monty]

This retired Army Major Dan Sjursen, explains who started this by walking back the Timeline from today back to thev1940s.

His website looks interesting. I have only read this one article.


https://original.antiwar.com/danny_sjursen/2020/01/05/who-started-it-litigious-a-reverse-timeline-of-us-iran-retaliations/

[PatColo]

Hosts Mark Collett, Patrick Slattery, NoWhiteGuilt; guest Adam Green.

Those into the "Putin: Friend or Foe? Trump: Friend or Foe?" debate will like this.

2 hrs

Patriotic Weekly Review - with Adam Green (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaV3u8mPbo)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaV3u8mPbo

[Neuro]

Hosts Mark Collett, Patrick Slattery, NoWhiteGuilt; guest Adam Green.

Those into the "Putin: Friend or Foe? Trump: Friend or Foe?" debate will like this.

2 hrs

Patriotic Weekly Review - with Adam Green (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaV3u8mPbo)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaV3u8mPbo

Gone!

[old steel]

POTUS Trump is playing 5d chess and you have zionists and jews living rent free in your heads.

FFS!

Learn!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmdS2dYOd6o

[Dachsie]

Hosts Mark Collett, Patrick Slattery, NoWhiteGuilt; guest Adam Green.

Those into the "Putin: Friend or Foe? Trump: Friend or Foe?" debate will like this.

2 hrs

Patriotic Weekly Review - with Adam Green (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaV3u8mPbo)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaV3u8mPbo

There is a video on
channel image

PatrickSlattery Bitchute channel

where he talks with Mark Collett.

It is probably not the lost video but two of the panelists are the same and release date is Jan 7 2020.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lvE81BUs6Dd9/



National Bugle Radio with Patrick Slattery, Jan 6, 2020

Patrick talks to Mark Collett about the travesty of Trump’s assassination of Qasem Soleimani and what is likely to come of it.
Category Other
Sensitivity Normal - Content that is suitable for ages 16 and over

Collett needs to get a Bitchute Channel or some better platform.

Green needs to not give his time to shows that are not YouTube bulletproof and preferably not give his time to hosts that will not allow Adam Green to share the video on his own Bitchute channel. E M Jones has this policy and does this regularly.

[Amanda]

So apparently, Soleimani helped liberate Alleppo from the US/ISraeli/Gulf States sponsored ISIS psychopaths.

Here's an excellent video from Syrian Girl on the Victory of Alleppo (there were Christians there!!!)

The Truth About Aleppo. Victory Tribute.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufqCCPA1jAs

[PatColo]

Gone!

hmm I guess (((TheirTube))) gassed it!

here tis, worthwhile... https://www.bitchute.com/video/IUaV3u8mPbo/

sorry to see Adam get a bit over-dogmatic re his Putin/Chabad views, which have been shaped heavily by his regular guest Christopher John Bjerknes

[PatColo]

Collett needs to get a Bitchute Channel or some better platform.


https://www.bitchute.com/channel/markcollett/

I like Collett; just such a big unfortunate honker on the poor guy; the sheer weight of that shnoz may give him back probs later in life! :'(

[Dachsie]

I listened to a bit of Collett and Patrick Slattery on that video I found and I just got quickly disinterested. I think they were both trying to sell Tulsi Gabbard as the Democrat candidate people should vote for next election and Collett is a Brit. Yadda Yadda

I think the subject of this thread and the way this situation has played out shows that more and more people of the widest array of political views are using terms like

the neocons

the Israelis

war mongers

Deep State


how SOS Pompeo

needs to get his resume in order and be ready to look for a new job as Trump has learned he has to dump him to recover from this disaster that Trump made a huge "mistake" about. Trump is trying to recover the integrity of the WhiteHouse and his presidency and at least things appeared smoothed over for now and there will be no war.

The Bolton - appointed national security council people operating in the White House who MUST be weeded out now if Trump actually wants to try to win the next election, or even if his handlers only want to make it appear that Trump actually wants to win the next election. Those people are neocon subversives and now, most of the entire U S electorate public knows where the war mongering set-up and games are coming from - the neocons and the Israelis.

So there are some good things that have come out of this still shaky situation Trump is trying to extricate himself from.

The whole thing is the most evil coup-type takeover of the USA and the constant lies by the media and the administration that have been spewed at us over the last few days is nauseating to the extreme for more and more people. People just see through the games and lies more clearly than ever.

I heard Chuck Baldwin say recently that the MSM was applauding the assassination Since I do not watch the MSM or TV at all, I really cannot see what he was pointing out to his congregation. He makes a good point if true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4EDfxF9KoA

@12:07
“Since the assassination of the Iranian general a few days ago by President Trump, have you noticed that with very few exceptions the entire mainstream media, be it Left or Right, are all applauding the assassination?

All the media on the Left - the CNN, the MSNBC types of media that you say hate Donald Trump and are doing everything they can to remove Donald Trump from office – et cetera et cetera, THEY have jumped on Trump's war mongering band wagon and are promoting Trump's war across the board.

Have you not the sense to ask yourself the question, why would these people who supposedly “hate” Donald Trump and are trying to remove him from office, why would they be cheering for war with Iran?

Can you not think ahead that far?”

[PatColo]

on the topic of (((TheirTube))), Adam G yest; the vid (((they))) gassed was called The SPLC's Anti-White Agenda (https://www.bitchute.com/video/5TK2cxeSQ_w/) (24 mins):

https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1215104078218326017


Adam Green
@Know_More_News
19h
Another video BANNED by YouTube! Not surprising considering SPLC is a 'trusted flagger'. It was already in limited state since it posted. Exposing their anti-white hatred is unacceptable apparently. Watch what they don't want you to see only on @bitchute
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5TK2cxeSQ_w/

[old steel]

Dam, just damn.

POTUS Trump is the man!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3SqIlU4AACYtt.jpg:large

[midnight rambler]

Dam, just damn.

POTUS Trump is the man!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3SqIlU4AACYtt.jpg:large

What crackhead posted that nonsense shit??

Probably some Zionist/neocon troll.

[old steel]

What crackhead posted that nonsense shit??

Probably some Zionist/neocon troll.

Cause you're smarter than all the autists over at the chans?

Maybe another trip is in order over to GL Pee where you steal your info.

Sooner or later they will get it right, and so will you.

You would know, huh midnight man?

[Amanda]

Dam, just damn.

POTUS Trump is the man!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3SqIlU4AACYtt.jpg:large



MORE ZIONIST BS.

Again, Soleimani was the one most responsible for the defeat of those psychopathic terrorists known as ISIS, who are supported by the US and Israel (both nations are controlled by the Rothschilds)

[old steel]

MORE ZIONIST BS.

Again, Soleimani was the one most responsible for the defeat of those psychopathic terrorists known as ISIS, who are supported by the US and Israel (both nations are controlled by the Rothschilds)


Traitor!

There is plenty of room at GITMO for traitors like you and midnight man.

[Amanda]

Traitor!

There is plenty of room at GITMO for traitors like you and midnight man.

Please go sign up for the war!! Sacrifice your life for Israel.

[midnight rambler]

MORE ZIONIST BS.

Again, Soleimani was the one most responsible for the defeat of those psychopathic terrorists known as ISIS, who are supported by the US and Israel (both nations are controlled by the Rothschilds)

Yeah, let's review the facts:

Uncle Satan is Israhell's bitch.
Israhell is a Rottenchild creation via the Balfour Declaration.
Israhell and Iran are mortal enemies, either of which would be ecstatic to see the annihilation of the other.
The Iranians call Uncle Satan the Great Satan because of the way Israhell's bitch has been treating Iran and the people of Iran for the past 75+ years at the behest of Israhell. (what fate do you suppose awaited him for betraying his own people for the money powers if he were to be detected as "Rothschilds' top man" in Iran?? We're supposed to believe that Soleimani sold his soul to the devil himself??)
Soleimani, supposedly "Rothchilds' top man," somehow manages to become #2 in the power structure completely undetected by other Iranians during the course of his entire career.
Iran does not have a Rothschild central bank!!!

Yet we're supposed to believe this utter nonsense that Soleimani was "Rothschilds' top man" according to some anonymous source on the interwebs without any references or evidence whatsoever. lol

Fucking totally obvious Zionist disinfo if there ever was...much like "Hitler was a joo agent!"

[midnight rambler]

According to G. Edward Griffin Soleimani was on a peace mission at the time of his assassination. Who are you going to believe, some anonymous post on the 'net or G. Edward Griffin, someone we can count on to expose the nonsense?

ETA: I note that while the article was on GEG's website it was actually written by Max Blumenthal.

https://needtoknow.news/2020/01/iranian-general-soleimani-was-on-a-peace-mission-with-saudi-arabia-when-he-was-killed-by-us-military-on-orders-from-the-white-house/

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&amp;v=ZEAp_UouT2Q&amp;feature=emb_ti tle

[Amanda]

Why Was Soleimani Assassinated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=105&amp;v=jkRSXW4swFk&amp;feature=emb_ logo


President Trump and Mike Pompeo told us that Iranian Gen. Soleimani had to be assassinated when he was in Baghdad at the end of last week because he was on a mission to plan and implement attacks on US military and diplomatic personnel in the region. But their story is not holding up very well, as reports surface that he was on a peace mission and other US claims are not adding up. So...why was he killed?

[Neuro]

Perhaps Soleimani was the top Rothschild man in Iran. Trump being a Rothschild man himself (having his Hotel empire being bailed out by the Rothschild in 1990, with his current commerce secretary Wilbur Ross at the helm of the bail out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Ross).

Now would it be totally unlikely, even if everyone somehow knows that he was killed, that he was not on the convoy, leaving Baghdad International Airport, instead he was on a plane going to the US for a Langley debrief. I would assume that every witness in the convoy knowing he was or wasn’t there would be dead now.

Iran just got double fucked with that being the case. They would much prefer him being dead.

[Cebu_4_2]

House passes War Powers Resolution in rebuke of Trump's actions against Iranhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-passes-war-powers-resolution-in-rebuke-of-trumps-actions-against-iran

[Amanda]

and now for some comedy...

Big Fat War Pig Pompeo and Jew Monster Mnuchin ""We Want Iran To Behave Like A Normal Nation": US Imposes Sanctions On Virtually Entire Iranian Economy

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/we-want-iran-behave-normal-nation-us-imposes-sanctions-virtually-entire-iran-economy

Best comments over there:


Translation: "We would like Iran to have a Rothschild Central Bank and a Walmart and McDonald's on every block."

We want Iran to simply behave like a normal nation,” You mean like the USA where men are allowed to marry men, transvestites are allowed to use women's rest rooms, Drag Queens are allowed to read stories to children in public schools, half the population is either in a prescription or illegal drug, obesity is at all time highs?

Is US a "normal nation"? We have our military stationed in 150 countries around the world and 4,018 nuclear weapons in storage. If that's the model of normalcy then Iran has a long way to go to get there.
Define normal. Assassinations? Bombing civilians? Denying foodstuffs and medical supplies? Define normal.

Normal Nation = Create $1.5 trillion a year in debt and spend 1/2 on defending Israel’s genocide!!

Like bomb and sanction countries and companies on the other side of the globe, none of which has anything to do with you national security? Perhaps invade other nations on a false pretext? That kind of normal?

"We Want Iran To Behave Like A Normal Nation" Let me translate. We want you to bow down to us like most nations do. It does not matter if we meddle in your elections, steal your resources, overthrow your governments, bomb you and your family to cover up political problems or any other thing we do

We Want Iran To Behave Like A Vassal State", there I fixed it.

We stopped your international trade, banking services, punished your potential customers, banned food and drugs, put barriers to productivity, science and growth. We've tried to make you a pariah through the world media, we sent in agent provocateurs, blew shit up, killed your general, fomented revolt, deposed your leaders, prohibit your weapons development, sequestered your cash...now start acting normal God damn it!!!

[PatColo]

Truth Jihad radio with Kevin Barrett 2020.01.09 (https://grizzom.blogspot.com/2020/01/truth-jihad-radio-with-kevin-barrett.html)



Cynthia McKinney on US War on Iran & More

Info Page (https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is/2020/01/cynthia-iran/)


64k CF Download (https://ln2.sync.com/dl/efa4359b0/95f5nn56-36ynde24-a5i8khxi-kmaj9yr8)

[midnight rambler]

Favorite comment:


Normal Nation = Create $1.5 trillion a year in debt and spend 1/2 on defending Israel’s genocide!!

[Dachsie]

"Now would it be totally unlikely, even if everyone somehow knows that he was killed, that he was not on the convoy, leaving Baghdad International Airport, instead he was on a plane going to the US for a Langley debrief. I would assume that every witness in the convoy knowing he was or wasn’t there would be dead now."

With lies everywhere and integrity universally absent, I think your hypothesis certainly deserves every consideration.

[Jewboo]

Traitor!

There is plenty of room at GITMO for traitors like you and midnight man



Old Steel has finally exposed himself as a Pro-Israel Zio-Joke:




Perhaps inevitably, Trump supporters have attacked the patriotism of anyone who suggests that igniting a new war in the Middle East would be a bad idea. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/us-rhetoric-around-the-iran-strike-mirrors-the-2003-logic-for-invading-iraq/ar-BBYPCRJ)



:D

[midnight rambler]

Well Book, if you don't support foreign entanglements and foreign wars then you're not a patriot. Get with the program Book!

[Jewboo]

well book, if you don't support foreign entanglements and foreign wars (for israel) then you're not a patriot. Get with the program book!

Exactly.

[midnight rambler]

Now would it be totally unlikely, even if everyone somehow knows that he was killed, that he was not on the convoy, leaving Baghdad International Airport, instead he was on a plane going to the US for a Langley debrief. I would assume that every witness in the convoy knowing he was or wasn’t there would be dead now.

Now that would make no sense at all. It's absurd. There obviously were more witnesses than the personnel in the convoy, e.g. everyone at the airport who witnessed his arrival. Soleimani was a rock star level celeb in the region, how many witnesses do you suppose were at the airport to greet him?

[Amanda]

Now that would make no sense at all. It's absurd. There obviously were more witnesses than the personnel in the convoy, e.g. everyone at the airport who witnessed his arrival. Soleimani was a rock star level celeb in the region, how many witnesses do you suppose were at the airport to greet him?


Yes, that's my take on it too!!

Seems like there is a lot of Zionist propaganda out there trying to turn this upside down and invert reality--no doubt, the Zionists, in control of their puppet, Zion Don the Con, are trying to make Soleimani look like he was the bad guy, so by extension, Zion Don the Con, was really doing a good thing and see, he's still working against the deep state. They don't want people to see that this guy was the one defeating those psychopathic ISIS terrorists supported by the US. More flip the script, as PatColo likes to say.

They've (Zio shills and propagandists for Trump) been doing a lot of this-- like when he surrounds himself with Neocons or appointed bloody Gina Haspel, they say he's just playing 4D chess, he's appointed this guys to get the people talking about how bad they are. What a load of obvious CRAP!! But that's the type of inverted reality BS I used to hear from that Q-shill, Dave @X22 report. So, instead of being on high alert for signs that Trump is compromised, they make countless excuses for him when ever he F's up. Like with Wikileaks--when he said "wikileaks? I don't know anything about wikileaks" when Assange was arrested. Instead of getting outraged, all of these Trump Q-shills said, "don't worry, the patriots are in charge, Assange is being protected" -as the man is most likely getting tortured to death. There's always an excuse, and inversion of reality, so they can continue to support the latest Neocon puppet. Denial is real.

[Neuro]

Now that would make no sense at all. It's absurd. There obviously were more witnesses than the personnel in the convoy, e.g. everyone at the airport who witnessed his arrival. Soleimani was a rock star level celeb in the region, how many witnesses do you suppose were at the airport to greet him?

Show us the photos of him getting in to the convoy. There must be some... Last photos of Soleimani!

[midnight rambler]

Show us the photos of him getting in to the convoy. There must be some... Last photos of Soleimani!

YOU prove YOUR bizarre theory. Where's the evidence??

[Neuro]

YOU prove YOUR bizarre theory. Where's the evidence??

Do you want me to give you the transcripts of his debriefing at Langley? Show me the evidence the rockstar general got into the convoy at Baghdad International Airport. It should be a million times easier to find that. Just because everyone says he is dead doesn’t prove he is. Why don’t anyone here doubt the official story (apart from Dachsie)?

[Amanda]

Well, I doubt the official ZIO BS story b/c the official story is that this guy Soleimani was a terrorist and the he was going to blow up the US embassy.

So US/Zio Official story:

Soleimani was a terrorist

Soliemani was going to blow up the US embassy, there was an imminent threat, and Trump acted to prevent a war

I do NOT believe the official story:

I do not believe Soliemani was a terrorist, since he was one of the people MOST RESPONSIBLE for the DEFEAT of ISIS

I do not believe there was imminent threat, I don't believe that Soleimani was going to blow up the US embassy, and I don't believe Trump acted to prevent a war--I believe he acted to START a war.

Also departing from the US/Zio BS official story, I believe the Iraqi Prime Minister when he says Soliemani was there on a diplomatic mission to broker a peace deal with Saudi Barbaria and that NeoCon Puppet, Zion Don the Con set him up to be killed (again this shows I am NOT believing the official US/Zio BS story.

[Neuro]

Well, I doubt the official ZIO BS story b/c the official story is that this guy Soleimani was a terrorist and the he was going to blow up the US embassy.

So US/Zio Official story:

Soleimani was a terrorist

Soliemani was going to blow up the US embassy, there was an imminent threat, and Trump acted to prevent a war

I do NOT believe the official story:

I do not believe Soliemani was a terrorist, since he was one of the people MOST RESPONSIBLE for the DEFEAT of ISIS

I do not believe there was imminent threat, I don't believe that Soleimani was going to blow up the US embassy, and I don't believe Trump acted to prevent a war--I believe he acted to START a war.

Also departing from the US/Zio BS official story, I believe the Iraqi Prime Minister when he says Soliemani was there on a diplomatic mission to broker a peace deal with Saudi Barbaria and that NeoCon Puppet, Zion Don the Con set him up to be killed (again this shows I am NOT believing the official US/Zio BS story.

But you believe he was killed? Based on what? The official story? I am not sure of anything, but I think it is as likely that he defected under a perfect smoke screen.

[Jewboo]

...I think it is as likely that he defected under a perfect smoke screen.

Nah. He dead.

:)

[Neuro]

Nah. He dead.

:)

Based on what? Everyone says so?

[Amanda]

Latest change to the US/Zio official BS narrative:


Trump Now Says Soleimani Plotted Bomb Attacks On 4 US Embassies; Intel Senators Balk
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-soleimani-plotted-bomb-attacks-4-us-embassies-intel-senators-balk

NeoCon BSer in chief:


Like many US interventions in the Middle East before, this story seems to continue changing by the day (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-military-contractor-whose-death-lead-soleimani-strike-finally-identified). The rationale for taking out the "imminent" threat of Qasem Soleimani has now centered on President Trump's claim, first presented before reporters Thursday (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-we-took-out-soleimani-because-iranians-looking-blow-our-embassy), that the IRGC Quds force chief was “looking to blow up our embassy”.
And now the president has given further details on those prior statements, saying in a new interview with Fox News there was a plot to bomb four embassies across the region.
“I can reveal that I believe it would’ve been four embassies,” Trump told (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tells-laura-ingraham-four-embassies-were-targeted-in-imminent-threat-from-iran) Fox's Ingraham in an exclusive interview set to air in full Friday night. When pressed on specific targets, the president revealed: “We will tell you that probably it was going to be the embassy in Baghdad.”

[Ares]

Latest change to the US/Zio official BS narrative:


Trump Now Says Soleimani Plotted Bomb Attacks On 4 US Embassies; Intel Senators Balk
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-soleimani-plotted-bomb-attacks-4-us-embassies-intel-senators-balk

NeoCon BSer in chief:

When one surrounds oneself with neo-con establishment hacks, don't be surprised when one sounds like an establishment hack. That always annoyed me with Trump. "Drain the Swamp", yet he goes and surrounds himself with swamp creatures that have been in the beltway for decades.

[Amanda]

When one surrounds oneself with neo-con establishment hacks, don't be surprised when one sounds like an establishment hack. That always annoyed me with Trump. "Drain the Swamp", yet he goes and surrounds himself with swamp creatures that have been in the beltway for decades.


Yes, the writing has been on the wall for a long time. I tried to deny it and give him a chance, but now it's beyond freaking obvious. There has been no draining of the swamp and NeoCon puppet Trump even went so far as to bring some swamp rats out of retirement, like Elliot Abrams--another NeoCon and pretty sure that guy was some kind of convicted felon for Iran Contra. NeoCon Trump let him be in charge of Venezuela

[Dachsie]

"I doubt the official ZIO BS story b/c.."

I have studied 9-11 and several false events on U S soil, as well as to a lesser extent some international false events of which this Soleimani hit I judge to be one, long enough to question everything. Doubt and questioning of every new "event" thrust upon us is a GOOD THING. We all have our own reason or basis or "because" of our doubts, and because of the sophistication of the lies and manipulations, we can only come to highest probabilities as to which bases of doubts are most to be believed.

Dr. James Fetzer in his earlier days of exposing the false event of 9-11-01 often said something like, in scientific study and investigation one has to consider "all available hypotheses" and settling on some of the better ones to study further and discarding some as not worthy of further study. That maxim rang true to me and as I observed a deluge of lies and disinformation and misinformation coming from almost all sources increasing exponentially over the years, I find that questioning everything is a very wise course of study. Keep and open mind and listen at first to all the doubts and all the reasons for the doubts.

In my study of false events on U S soil, I have particularly come to realize that we do not know in a sure way...

if anyone was killed

IF any one was actually killed

If any one was actually killed at the subject false event

who was killed

was the person or persons said to have been killed a real natural person or human being or a cyber creation

was this person actually dead BEFORE the subject event

what birth and death records are there to substantiate a real person's birth and death and are those records true and valid under the applicable civil laws

etc... I could go on and on.

There are strong solid REASONS to question whether Soleimani was actually killed and everything about that death.

i

[Dachsie]

Yes, it certainly looks like Trump belongs to the Zionist camp, but I would offer a little word of caution and a personal theory of mine that has been percolating in my mind for some time.

Be careful about jumping on to the "Zionist" train. That can be just another sophisticated "Zionist" trick that will end you up as another victim of the dialectic.

I am beginning to see that many "actors" are rolled out on the stage before us and they appear to be fine, super intelligent and highly educated, people with Jewish sounding names who are coming forth, at apparent great personal sacrifice and peril, and telling us some what appear to be solid facts about certain things in our world right now, especially things like Internet technology and information seeking. We get wow'd by these "brilliant" courageous Jewish actors who are telling us so many deep facts about what we are increasingly victims to, and he or she of course is a victim just like you and me.

Sorry folks, not buying it.

Caveat Emptor!

[Amanda]

This is what I thought--timing with impeachment...Pelosi and McConnell are all on the same team. Pelosi hurries to get the articles of impeachment, then holds them, GOP senators go to Trump and say we can't guarantee your acquittal unless you get on board with the war party, and then Trump comes out 100% on board with the NeoCon agenda (publicly telling Iraq we're not leaving and getting this crap going with Iran)

WSJ: Trump reportedly told associates he killed Soleimani due to GOP pressure before impeachment trial (https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reportedly-told-associates-killed-162634145.html)



https://www.sott.net/article/427213-WSJ-Trump-reportedly-told-associates-he-killed-Soleimani-due-to-GOP-pressure-before-impeachment-trial

[PatColo]

from the Defamation Experts, right on que,

Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories About Iran Drone Strike Gain Traction in Online Hate Forums and Iranian Media (https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/anti-semitic-conspiracy-theories-about-iran-drone-strike-gain-traction-in)

David Duke says “Zionist Warmongers who are leading Trump & America into HELL”

[Dachsie]

"The big news today -- The president killed Soleimani, the Iranian terrorist mastermind."

So Tom Fitton started out his weekly wrap up report.

None of us ever heard of this "Soleimani Iranian mastermind" and now we are told two things. He is evil terrorist of evil Iran or He is a good helper of the USA and a brave strategist for good Iran. Why did we not hear one word about this big important Iranian leader and "master mind" - good or bad - before this event?

It is so amazing to me that all the right wing "Christian" web sites are so readily buying in to the script to support president Trump.

The people just do not believe any of the garbage come out by either side and really the Left is saying a war needs to be started against Iran, the same basic stance as the Right.

There are a few of the Trump die-hard supporters that are saying Trump was tricked or duped.

Then there are those that say it is now proven that Trump is in total agreement with the Zionist neocon war mongers and has been from the beginning of his presidency. I have to admit that it looks that way to me too, but I also have to admit that this is some kind of big manipulation the goal of which none of us are sure what that goal is.

Trump is doing this to get re-elected seems weak and superficial to me. It does look like a pincer movement so that no resolution will be reached and the warmongers have it arranged so that they get their war. The warmongers fill up both the Democrats and the Republicans.

I guess I see some big play on we the people, some big manipulative scam designed to get us into another unjust war by confusing and dividing us all at the very time when we need cool heads and need to avoid war at all costs.

This whole thing was so out of the blue. Some heavy duty goings on behind the scenes that none of really know anything about. Even all the different stances seem to be orchestrated and controlled.




Here is an interesting article I stumbled across in my files. James Perloff sent this to me and it seems to make some good points about Iran. NOTICE THAT THIS ARTICLE OF WELL OVER A YEAR AGO THAT IS ALL ABOUT IRAN AND NOT ONE MENTION OF THIS BIG IMPORTANT IRANIAN MASTERMIND.

https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2018/05/10/trumps-ten-lies-a-response-to-the-iran-nuclear-agreement-speech/

this is the link James Perloff sent me in an email of May 15 2018

Trump’s Ten Lies: A Response to the Iran Nuclear Agreement Speech
by Ted Snider Posted on May 11, 2018

After listening to Trump’s speech explaining his decision to pull out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) nuclear agreement with Iran, Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said that Trump’s speech contained "over ten lies." Khamenei didn’t go on to name the lies.
So, what were the lies Trump told?
Lie #1
"The Iranian regime is the leading state sponsor of terror"

The United States has long known that its ally, Saudi Arabia, and not its enemy, Iran, is the leading state sponsor of terror. All recent attempts to link Iran to terrorism have failed. Even America’s own reports on terrorism don’t list Iran as the leading state sponsor of terrorism. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorisms “rarely identifies a terrorist incident as an act by or on behalf of Iran.” And, the most recent Global Terrorism Index from the Department of Homeland Security clearly states that, not Iran, but “ISIL, Boko Haram, the Taliban and al-Qaeda” are the biggest terrorist threats. None of these four groups is Shiite and none is aligned with Iran, but combined they are “responsible for 74 per cent of all deaths from terrorism.” The Index also clearly identifies “ISIL,” not Iran “as the deadliest terrorist group.”

As The U.S. well knows, Saudi Arabia is the leading state sponsor of terror. As early as 2009, the State Department had already declared that “Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban . . . and other terrorist groups.” A widely circulated 2012 classified Defense Intelligence Agency Information Intelligence Report identified the "supporting powers" of ISIS to be "Western countries, the Gulf States and Turkey." Two years later, Vice President Biden was still making the same case against, not Iran, but Saudi Arabia: "[O]ur allies in the region were our largest problem in Syria . . .. They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad except that the people who were being supplied were Al Nusra and al-Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis." Point 4 of a memo written by Hillary Clinton on September 17, 2014 confesses that based on “western intelligence, US intelligence and sources in the region, “the US knew that “the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia . . . [were] providing clandestine financial and logistic support to Isis and other radical groups in the region.” And, in 2015, President “Obama and other US officials urged Gulf leaders who are funding the opposition to keep control of their clients, so that a post-Assad regime isn’t controlled by extremists from the Islamic State or al-Qaeda.”

Lie #2

"The Iranian regime . . . supports . . . the Taliban and Al Qaeda"
After 9/11, Iran immediately sided with the U.S. against the Taliban and al-Qaeda. The Northern Alliance, who provided many of the anti-Taliban fighters once the Americans and her allies invaded Afghanistan, was largely put together by Iran, who placed it in the hands of the Americans. Iran offered its air bases to the US and permitted the US to carry out search and rescue missions for downed US planes. The Iranians also supplied the US with intelligence on Taliban and al-Qaeda targets. Iranian diplomats were secretly meeting with US officials as early as October 2001 to plan the removal of the Taliban and the creation of a new government in Afghanistan. At the Bonn Conference of December 2001, Iran was absolutely crucial in setting up Afghanistan’s post-Taliban government.

Iran also arrested hundreds of the al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters who escaped into her borders. Iran documented the identity of more than two hundred al-Qaeda and Taliban escapees to the United Nations and sent many of them back to their homelands. For many others who couldn’t be sent back to their own countries, Iran offered to try them in Iran. Iran also followed up on an American request to search for, arrest and deport several more al-Qaeda operatives that the US identified.

Lie #3

"Over the years, Iran and its proxies have bombed American Embassies and military installations, murdered hundreds of American service members, and kidnapped, imprisoned, and tortured American citizens."

The claim that Iran has been responsible for the bombing of American military installations is highly questionable. The 1983 Hezbollah bombing of the American barracks in Beirut that killed 241 members of the American military was an attack on a military base in Beirut belonging to a foreign invader that was actively and currently bombing Lebanon.

As for the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers housing complex for American military personnel in Saudi Arabia, the case against Iran rests largely on information provided by their enemy, Saudi Arabia. Michael Scheuer, director of the Bin Laden unit, says that "a substantial body of evidence" pointed, not to Iran, but to al-Qaeda. Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett say that by 1998, even the Saudis were admitting that the bombing "was executed by Saudi hands. No foreign party was involved". Then Secretary of State Warren Christopher also declared that "there was never any adequate proof" that Iran was involved. Clinton’s defense secretary, William Perry, said clearly that "al-Qaeda rather than Iran was behind" the bombing.

As for kidnapping American citizens, that was 39 years ago, and the charge ignores the context. As the Americans had used a coup against the democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddeq in 1953 to thwart Iran’s first attempt to remove the Shah, so Iranians saw the US providing sanctuary to the Shah in 1979 as another American attempt to midwife the same fate again. As professor Vali Nasr of Tufts University has said, "In the popular mind, the hostage crisis was seen as justified by what happened in 1953".

Lie #4

"No action taken by the regime has been more dangerous than its pursuit of nuclear weapons – and the means of delivering them.

Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons. Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has said repeatedly that "We have never pursued or sought a nuclear bomb, and we are not going to do so". Both Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and his predecessor, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, have insisted that Iran would never pursue nuclear weapons because nuclear weapons are against the precepts of Islam. Khamenei has insisted that "from an ideological and fiqhi [Islamic jurisprudence] perspective, we consider developing nuclear weapons as unlawful. We consider using such weapons as a big sin."

And no one really believes otherwise: not US intelligence and not Israeli intelligence.

Former CIA director and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta asked, “Are they [Iran] trying to develop a nuclear weapon?” and succinctly and pointedly answered: “No”. The 2007 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), representing the collective conclusions of all of America’s many intelligence agencies, said with “high confidence” that Iran was not building a nuclear weapon. The 2011 NIE said that “the bottom-line assessments of the [2007] N.I.E. still hold true. We have not seen indications that the government has made the decision to move ahead with the program”.

Yuval Diskin, the man who headed Shin Bet, the Israeli domestic intelligence agency, for six years, accused Prime Minister Netanyahu of “misleading the public on the Iran issue.” And Lieutenant-General Benny Gantz, then Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces, insisted that Iran has not “made the decision” to pursue a nuclear weapons program. Then Defense Minister Ehud Barak, clearly stated that “it is not the case” that “Iran is determined to . . . attempt to obtain nuclear weapons . . . as quickly as possible.” He added rhetorically, “To do that, Iran would have to announce it is leaving the inspection regime . . .. Why haven’t they done that?”

Former director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Mohamed ElBaradei told investigative journalist Seymour Hersh that “[d]uring my time at the agency, we haven’t seen a shred of evidence that Iran has been weaponizing”.

The bottom line is that no one – not the United States, not Israel, not the International Atomic Energy Agency – ever really believed Iran was developing nuclear weapons.

Lie #5

"The deal lifted crippling economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for very weak limits on the regime’s nuclear activity"
They were not weak limits. Iran vastly reduced the number of its centrifuges and bricked in its heavy water reactor at Arak. Iran destroyed its entire stockpile of medical uranium enriched to 19.5% and no longer enriches beyond 3.67%, leaving them a legal civilian nuclear program for electricity: and even the amount of low enriched uranium Iran can keep is strictly limited to under 300kg. Its Fordow nuclear facility was converted into a nuclear, physics and technology center.

Iran agreed to submit to a highly intrusive regime of inspections and monitoring by the IAEA, including spot inspections to ensure that these goals were being met. Iran also agreed to the "use of IAEA approved and certified modern technologies including on-line enrichment measurement and electronic seals."
The agreement even limited some research and development for a specified period of time.

Lie #6

"The deal lifted crippling economic sanctions on Iran . . .. at the point when the United States had maximum leverage"
Trump’s assessment of the efficacy of the sanctions is a fantasy. There is no evidence that the Iranian regime was on the brink of collapse or that they were forcing the termination of Iran’s civilian nuclear program. On the contrary, the sanction strategy had reached its limit and Iran was now winning the sanctions versus nuclear program enlargement battle. Trita Parsi says that, though “US intelligence services had predicted that mass demonstrations and riots would occur within months after the imposition of sanctions . . .. the government in Tehran never lost control.” Enrichment of uranium for peaceful civilian purposes is legal under the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and Iran’s right to exercise the same rights as every other country became a point of profound national pride for Iranians who stood by the Rouhani administration.

Sanctions actually had an effect opposite to the desired one. Iran escalated its building of centrifuges and grew its stockpile of low- and medium-enriched uranium to prove to the US that pressuring them through sanctions wouldn’t work. Witnessing this pattern, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper brought the Senate back to reality with the assessment that “sanctions as imposed so far have not caused [Iran] to change their behavior or policy.” He added that “Iran’s economic difficulties probably will not jeopardize the regime.”

The problem for the US was that there was only so many targets they could sanction. But Iran could keep building centrifuges and keep enriching uranium. So, while the US strategy had an endpoint, the Iranian response did not: the US ran out of things to sanction; Iran kept enriching. Sanctions wasn’t going to work. They were leading to a dilemma: accept Iran’s nuclear program or go to war. That led Obama to the negotiation option. And that is the concern now.

Contrary to Trump’s version of history, sanctions were not bringing about the inevitable collapse of the Islamic Republic and were not producing the desired change.

Lie #7

Today, we have definitive proof that this Iranian promise was a lie. Last week, Israel published intelligence documents – long concealed by Iran – conclusively showing the Iranian regime and its history of pursuing nuclear weapons.

As his only evidence that Iran violated the JCPOA, Trump cited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s recent revelation to the world of proof that “Iran lied, big time, after signing the nuclear deal in 2015.” Netanyahu displayed binders with over 50,000 paper files and a wall of CDs that he said were packed with the proof. But the documents were not "long concealed by Iran," and they were not conclusive proof that Iran pursued nuclear weapons.

Netanyahu’s “significant new revelations” were not new at all. The binders and discs contained nothing that the IAEA hadn’t seen and dismissed the first time around. Those old attempts to discredit Iran have been carefully discredited by many experts, including Gareth Porter in Manufactured Crisis. The IAEA was finished with them by December of 2015.

Olli Heinonen, the chief inspector of the IAEA at the time of the JCPOA negotiations – and not someone who was in any way soft on Iran – said that the IAEA first saw the “significant new” evidence that Netanyahu revealed in 2005. Watching Netanyahu’s revelation, Heinonen could only say, “I just saw a lot of pictures I had seen before.”

Federica Mogherini, the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy said that, based on first reports of Netanyahu’s presentation, it “has not put into question Iran’s compliance with the JCPOA.” Mogherini said that the final word had to go to the IAEA. The day after Netanyahu’s presentation, the IAEA said that there was “no credible indications” of Iran working on a nuclear weapons program for several years before the JCPOA.

Lie #8

The agreement was so poorly negotiated that even if Iran fully complies, the regime can still be on the verge of a nuclear breakout in just a short period of time. The deal’s sunset provisions are totally unacceptable.

The most commonly called upon criticism by those hostile to the JCPOA, the "sunset" objection is a chimera. And not just because most non-proliferation agreements have the same fifteen year term this one has. The objection is disingenuous because it is based on a misreading of the agreement, or, perhaps, on not having read it at all. Many of the key restrictions referred to last much more than fifteen years. The text of the agreement specifies that Iran agreed to allow the IAEA to monitor its entire uranium supply chain for twenty-five years and all centrifuge production facilities for twenty. More importantly, though, Trita Parsi points out that “the most important restrictions and inspections instruments are permanent, according to the Additional Protocol to the Nonproliferation Treaty.” Iran commits in the JCPOA to a schedule for ratifying the Additional Protocol.

Lie #9

"Making matters worse, the deal’s inspection provisions lack adequate mechanisms to prevent, detect, and punish cheating and don’t even have the unqualified right to inspect many important locations, including military facilities."

The JCPOA clearly states that inspectors can get access to military sites if the IAEA has credible evidence that suspicious activity is occurring on the site. The IAEA says that there has been no credible evidence of suspicious activity and that “Washington has not provided such indications to back up its pressure on the IAEA to make such a request.”
IAEA chief Amano Yukiya defended the inspections as the world’s “most robust nuclear verification regime.”

Lie #10

Not only does the deal fail to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but it also fails to address the regime’s development of ballistic missiles that could deliver nuclear warheads.
The deal was never meant to address Iran’s ballistic missiles, and their ballistic missiles are incapable of delivering nuclear warheads.

Resolution 2231, approved in support of the JCPOA, “calls upon” Iran “not to undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles designed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons” for a defined period of time. Iran insists they are in compliance with this requirement because the missiles are defensive and are designed to carry a conventional payload: the missiles are not capable of being nuclear armed. Iran expert Gareth Porter says that Iran’s “ballistic missiles were not designed for nuclear weapons.” Porter cites experts who say that “Iran’s medium-range missiles have been designed for conventional deterrence,” and that “Iran would have to redesign at least the internal components of the missile to adapt it to carrying nuclear weapons.”

Besides, since Iran verifiably does not have a nuclear weapons program, that the missile cannot carry a nuclear weapon becomes tautological. Similar earlier American claims about Iranian nuclear missiles have all been embarrassingly discredited.

Lie #11

"It has now been almost 40 years since this dictatorship seized power and took a proud nation hostage."

Leaving aside that the revolution almost forty years ago seized power from an American/British imposed dictatorship that the Americans and British brought to power with a coup against the overwhelmingly popularly elected Mohammad Mosaddeq, the Iranian regime did not take "a proud nation hostage." Iran experts Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett say that “at every step along the way – from an initial referendum on the establishment of an Islamic republic, through elections for a constituent assembly to draft its constitution, to the ratification of that constitution – Khomeini would ask for and receive the Iranian public’s overwhelming support.” They go on to show just how great support for the new government was in 1979: “less than two months after the revolution’s triumph, a referendum was held to decide whether a postrevolutionary Iranian state should be, as Khomeini had pledged, an Islamic republic. Well over 90 percent of eligible voters turned out: 98.2% of them voted yes.”

Ooops, that’s eleven!

Ted Snider has a graduate degree in philosophy and writes on analyzing patterns in US foreign policy and history.
Read more by Ted Snider
The Meaning of Verification – May 8th, 2018
Accusing Russia – Listening to History – April 19th, 2018
What Did Israel Bomb in the Syrian Desert in 2007? – April 2nd, 2018
None of This Month’s Craziest Nuclear Stories Involved North Korea – March 27th, 2018
How Many Terms ’til You’re a Tyrant? – March 6th, 2018

[midnight rambler]

No wonder the Israelis have so vocally disavowed the assassination. Definitely looks like a hit orchestrated by Israhell.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001121078013820-iran-general-soleimani-israel-us/

[Dachsie]

"Israeli intelligence helped US carry out Soleimani's assassination"
dailymail.uk

REVEALED: Israeli intelligence helped US carry out Soleimani's assassination 'by confirming which flight terror chief took to Iraq' - and PM Benjamin Netanyahu was the 'only American ally told about the mission'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7879765/Israeli-intelligence-helped-carry-assassination-Soleimani-PM-Netanyahu-warned.html

...https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7879765/Israeli-intelligence-helped-carry-assassination-Soleimani-PM-Netanyahu-warned.html...


The US reportedly relied on Israeli intelligence in the assassination of top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.

Soleimani, the head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force, was killed in a US airstrike as he left Baghdad International Airport after flying in from Damascus on January 3rd.

Informants in Damascus tipped the CIA off about which flight Soleimani would be on and Israeli intelligence verified and confirmed that information, NBC News and Reuters reported Sunday.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is said to be the only foreign leader who knew of the planned assassination, having spoken to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo beforehand, according to the New York Times.

[Cebu_4_2]

POTUS Trump is playing 5d chess and you have zionists and jews living rent free in your heads.

FFS!

Learn!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmdS2dYOd6o

Good stuff here

[Dachsie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZy3q4fxDk

In this video Kevin Shipp and Greg Hunter are praising Trump and referring to the "terrorist" Soleimani.

I knew Hunter would take that position but Kevin Shipp was someone I always admired but I only listened to the first 7 minutes of this hour long video and could not take anymore. All of the conservative Right commentators seem to be saying the opposite of many of the posts on this forum.

I just know that even though many conservatives, unlike the liberal Left, say important factual information on many subjects but they are just like the liberal Left when it comes to what they dare not ever mention at all, the elephant in the living room.

The conservative Right have only one explanation for Trump's assassination of Soleimani and that it is that Soleimani is a very evil murderous terrorist that had to be eliminated, and that is the only non-explanation will we be given about this mysterious unexplained action of the president.

People know when they are being fed a line. People know when we just keep being told declarative statements with no proof or evidence or documentation whatsoever.

It reminds me of the old Groucho Marx joke "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?"

[EE_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZy3q4fxDk

In this video Kevin Shipp and Greg Hunter are praising Trump and referring to the "terrorist" Soleimani.

I knew Hunter would take that position but Kevin Shipp was someone I always admired but I only listened to the first 7 minutes of this hour long video and could not take anymore. All of the conservative Right commentators seem to be saying the opposite of many of the posts on this forum.

I just know that even though many conservatives, unlike the liberal Left, say important factual information on many subjects but they are just like the liberal Left when it comes to what they dare not ever mention at all, the elephant in the living room.

The conservative Right have only one explanation for Trump's assassination of Soleimani and that it is that Soleimani is a very evil murderous terrorist that had to be eliminated, and that is the only non-explanation will we be given about this mysterious unexplained action of the president.

People know when they are being fed a line. People know when we just keep being told declarative statements with no proof or evidence or documentation whatsoever.

It reminds me of the old Groucho Marx joke "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?"

Trump authorized Soleimani killing seven months ago: Report
by John Gage
January 13, 2020 09:03 AM

Seven months ago President Trump approved the killing of Qassem Soleimani if Iran continued escalating conflict with the United States.

The presidential directive, which came in June, required that Trump approve the final sign-off of an operation to get Soleimani, according to NBC News.

"There have been a number of options presented to the president over the course of time," a senior administration official said in comments released Monday. The official said it was "some time ago" when the administration added killing Soleimani as an option to respond against Iran.

Officials said that then-national security adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo wanted to use the option after Iran shot down a U.S. drone, but Trump denied the request.

The president made clear at the time he only wanted to kill Soleimani if the Iranians "hit Americans," according to a person who had been briefed about the discussions.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-authorized-soleimani-killing-seven-months-ago-report

[Dachsie]

EE, if you are trying to justify Trump's action, you have not done so. Please keep trying though if that is your intention. We all want very much to know FACTS that would make the president' action not only make some sense but that would also justify and make it to be a just decision carefully considered because of its grave ramifications.

[Amanda]

Trump killed Soleimani because he was the general who was responsible for the defeat of ISIS

US/Trump killed Soleimani to protect their psychopathic ISIS terrorist buddies

Official ISIS Newspaper ‘Thanks God’ for Trump Killing Iran’s General Soleimani

https://geopolitics.co/2020/01/13/official-isis-newspaper-thanks-god-for-trump-killing-irans-general-soleimani/


It was only a matter of time before US President Donald Trump got the recognition he deserved for America’s military exploits these past two weeks. Yesterday, Trump received glowing praise from the official international ISIS newspaper, Al Naba, highlighting Washington’s assassination of Iranian IRGC’s General Qasem Soleimani on January 3rd. by Patrick Henningsen | 21stCenturyWire


In an ideal world, this latest endorsement by ISIS for Trump’s actions should really put to rest the well-worn Washington and Israeli propaganda talking point (https://www.axios.com/qassem-soleimani-death-reactions-iran-85bd4b62-85f4-4e29-a0ec-1e6376534f03.html) that Soleimani was an “evil and deadly terrorist.” Unfortunately, the current American political discourse is so thoroughly coated in layers of political fiction that this might take a while to sink in.

One only has to take a cursory look at reports over the last few years to quickly realise exactly how valuable the Iranian military and its celebrated general were in the global war on terror. Yet, this reality is mostly lost on US war hawks and America’s Conservative punditry class.



The US/Trump assassinated Soleimani to help ISIS, you know those guys who BEHEAD CHILDREN and RIP THE HEARTS out of people and EAT THEM---those are the BFFs of the US/Zion Empire, and THAT's who TRUMP was helping.

[Horn]

A war or threat of war guarantees encumbent admin relection.

A cost savings in the end for Tptb so as not to pave new roads for new admins.

[EE_]

EE, if you are trying to justify Trump's action, you have not done so. Please keep trying though if that is your intention. We all want very much to know FACTS that would make the president' action not only make some sense but that would also justify and make it to be a just decision carefully considered because of its grave ramifications.

I really don't give a flying fuck what sand niggers Trump kills as long as he keeps fighting against the leftists and for America.

Good times in America!

[monty]

I really don't give a flying fuck what sand niggers Trump kills as long as he keeps fighting against the leftists and for America.

Good times in America!

EE_, Iranians, Persia, are not Arab sand niggers. This is not meant to justify any of the evil committed by the Iranian rulers against their own citizens or other countries. I don’t buy the mainstream media and Netanyahu, Trump, & Pompeo bs that Iran is the sponsor of terrorism in the M.E. and the world. Look no further than our own corrupt government

[monty]

I really don't give a flying fuck what sand niggers Trump kills as long as he keeps fighting against the leftists and for America.

Good times in America!

EE_, Iranians, Persia, are not Arab sand niggers. This is not meant to justify any of the evil committed by the Iranian rulers against their own citizens or other countries. I don’t buy the mainstream media and Netanyahu, Trump, & Pompeo bs that Iran is the sponsor of terrorism in the M.E. and the world. Look no further than our own corrupt government

[EE_]

EE_, Iranians, Persia, are not Arab sand niggers. This is not meant to justify any of the evil committed by the Iranian rulers against their own citizens or other countries. I don’t buy the mainstream media and Netanyahu, Trump, & Pompeo bs that Iran is the sponsor of terrorism in the M.E. and the world. Look no further than our own corrupt government

We agree on the corrupt US government, but last I checked, we are not in a new war. Wait and see how this plays out before you condemn Trump and side with terrorists when you have no real information, nor are privy to it.

[Amanda]

We agree on the corrupt US government, but last I checked, we are not in a new war. Wait and see how this plays out before you condemn Trump and side with terrorists when you have no real information, nor are privy to it.

TRUMP is the one SIDING with TERRORISTS--He just helped out his ISIS buddies by killing Soleimani, the general responsible for their DEFEAT

I'm siding with people who are FIGHTING the PSYCHOPATHIC TERRORISTS sent by the (((US))) and Israhell.

The US and TRUMP support the child-beheading TERRORISTS known as ISIS, General Soleimani was a HERO for defeating those ISIS monsters and protecting the people by driving them out of Iraq and Syria. He's actually a HEROIC GENERAL for defending the people--we don't have anything like that here in the (((US))), our so-called Generals are busy waging a war for the Zio Empire, which is destroying this nation.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT on who the REAL TERRORISTS ARE!!

As for Trump beating the leftist, sorry but this whole thing is looking more and more like a rigged WWE match, with left and right being a tag-team for the war party...

All we're probably going to get is maybe 300 miles of wall--bread crumbs for the slaves

[EE_]

TRUMP is the one SIDING with TERRORISTS--He just helped out his ISIS buddies by killing Soleimani, the general responsible for their DEFEAT

I'm siding with people who are FIGHTING the PSYCHOPATHIC TERRORISTS sent by the (((US))) and Israhell.

The US and TRUMP support the child-beheading TERRORISTS known as ISIS, General Soleimani was a HERO for defeating those ISIS monsters and protecting the people by driving them out of Iraq and Syria. He's actually a HEROIC GENERAL for defending the people--we don't have anything like that here in the (((US))), our so-called Generals are busy waging a war for the Zio Empire, which is destroying this nation.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT on who the REAL TERRORISTS ARE!!

As for Trump beating the leftist, sorry but this whole thing is looking more and more like a rigged WWE match, with left and right being a tag-team for the war party...

All we're probably going to get is maybe 300 miles of wall--bread crumbs for the slaves

Too bad you can't focus your energy on fighting the biggest threat to our country, bar none, liberals/globalist/Democrats...or would that be like fighting yourself?

[Amanda]

Too bad you can't focus your energy on fighting the biggest threat to our country, bar none, liberals/globalist/Democrats...or would that be like fighting yourself?

I'm a Ron Paul supporter! I don't support ANYTHING on the left. I used to support Trump until he started the same old NEOCON BS!!!

I used to believe in Trump, I was on his side with all the freaking coup plots, and I truly believe that he was doing the best he could (surrounded with DEEP STATE SWAMP RATS) and I was on his side until this NeoCon BS--now with impeachment hanging over his head, he's turned into a NeoCon puppet.

I Don't believe in the Left-Right BS--they are all on the same party--the war party. It's nothing but a fake fight.

Nothing will ever change now.

They will NEVER let that wall get finished and the illegals will keep coming.

[Amanda]

Finally, somebody saying what I've been saying--it's the impeachment that has him cornered and turning on his promises--it's just a deep state trap to get leverage over him and box him in and get him to go along with the establishment foreign policy (and everything else) like a good puppet. This guy Luongo thinks the fix is in, I think they are just going to keep this impeachment thing going on over and over again, to keep leverage over him.

"The Flying Monkeys Have Taken Over The Asylum" - Impeachment, Soleimani, & The Pull Of The Swamp - Tom Luongo

He actually thinks the fix is in and the GOP is going to get rid of him--totally possible b/c those NeoCon senators are dirty. I actually think they will keep him in now and put him in office again, now that they have got him acting like an obedient Neocon puppet

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/flying-monkeys-have-taken-over-asylum-impeachment-soleimani-pull-swamp


The day Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced she would open up impeachment proceedings against President Trump I called it a coup (https://tomluongo.me/2019/09/24/coup-begun-empire-strikes-back-everywhere/). It was obvious to me then and more obvious to me today that we are headed to a dangerous place (a dangerous place (https://open.spotify.com/album/2p53eKYYG1kCcjIyjS7pOc)).

Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate begins next week and it’s clear that this will not be a walk in the park for the President. Anyone dismissing this because the Republicans hold the Senate simply do not understand why this impeachment exists in the first place.

It is the ultimate form of leverage over a President whose desire to end the wars in the Middle East is anathema to the entrenched powers in the D.C. Swamp.

And you have to ask yourself the question why would Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell go along with a real trial unless the fix was in?

Because, as Trump rightly points out, he’s got the approval rating nationally and within his own party. He’s a lock for re-election. So, given the clear unconstitutionality of these impeachment articles (which I discussed previously (https://tomluongo.me/2019/12/19/coup-becomes-civil-war-trump-impeachment/)) why is this even still a thing?



Because Trump is going to be taken out.





And here's what I posted over at zerohedge:


Now that Trump has come out as a good obedient NeoCon puppet, the Senate will now acquit him.

IMO-this is/was a deep state coup, with a tag team of Pelosi/Nadler/Schiff and McConnell/Graham, to get leverage over him and get him in line with the war party. (I do not fall for the left-right nonsense--they are all on the same team, the war party)

Just a few months ago, he was talking about bringing the troops home (and getting attacked by both sides of the war party for trying to do so), now with impeachment hanging over his head, Iraq tells the US to get out, and Trump says screw you we're staying.

Many months ago, they tried to bait him into attacking Iran, and he didn't take the bait, now, with impeachment hanging over his head, and perhaps after a threat from McConnell and Graham, that he needs to get with the war party and regime change agenda, or they can't guarantee an acquittal, Trump is acting like a good NeoCon puppet--he did an assassination and has been working hard on regime change.

Why did Pelosi hang onto the articles? To give NeoCon controlled McConnell and Graham to work on Trump? Maybe they told him, listen we can't assure your acquittal unless you get with the war party and regime change agenda. Or maybe he's been a NeoCon puppet all along.

And of course, back in 2006, once Pelosi got control of the house, the first thing she said was "impeachment was off the table"--so she had NO problem with that psychopathic SOB for lying the nation into a war. She didn't impeach GWBush b/c they were all on the same team--the war party team.

Or maybe he's been a NeoCon puppet all along.

***

I also think the deep state wants to put Trump in again, now that they have gotten him to be a good NeoCon puppet. I think this whole election is just theater--the Dems are deliberately throwing the election. Who the hell would ever vote for someone promising open borders and for Americans to pay for the illegals to have free health care. It's like a WWE match--all fake, they want Trump in there now that they have finally flipped him.

He's certainly a NeoCon puppet now, I'm just not sure he always was (maybe he was and I missed it)

***

Also they have already threatened to keep impeaching him (so they will have permanent leverage over him, to make sure he doesn't stray from the deep state plans). McConnell/Graham DO NOT have his back--they are with the war agenda McConnell has controlled his appointments--so he is surrounded by NeoCons.

The timing is TOO suspicious to me. The way Pelosi raced this through and then held them was too strange--something was up.

And we know nothing is as it seems.

The Dems and Repugs are all on the same team, they past the baton from one admin to the next, and the war rampage keeps going.

Pelosi held onto those articles, and once Trump got on board with the Iran agenda (assassination and regime change), then Pelosi magically said she's ready to release the articles.

[Amanda]

And I think Trump inadvertently gave all of his power away (the LEVERAGE he had over the WHOLE SWAMP) when he told Deep State Swamp Rat/CIA Barr to do the declass. He lost all of his power right there. Deep state swamp rat CIA Barr and the DIRTY DOJ, turned it around on him, and said Trump gave Barr the authority to decide if anything should be declassified and made public on the Russia Coup (meaning it NEVER will be declassified) . And if Barr had immediately done what Trump ordered him to do, that would have exposed the Russia thing as a total hoax and attempted coup, and it would have made it harder (IMO) for them to pull of coup #2.

Here's what I sent someone on LEVERAGE:


On leverage, I think Alex Christoforou (The Duran) nails it in that Trump has no leverage over anyone now (they really have him cornered with impeachment--the neo-con GOP senators can't be trusted IMO)

Anyway, I can't find Sundance's original post on leverage, but prior to Barr, when Trump had the power to declassify the Russia hoax docs, and the good guys like Nunes and Jim Jordan were calling on him to do so, and all pro-Trump people were saying "why doesn't he declass??" Sundance's answer, at that time, was that it was all about leverage, and having power over them (everyone who was in on the coup plot- DOJ, FBI, CIA, etc). But Trump lost this leverage the day he ordered Barr to do the declass.

Instead, CIA/Deep State Barr and the dirty DOJ, turned things around on Trump, and said Trump "gave Barr the authority to decide if anything needs to be declassified" which is totally NOT TRUE. Also, people always say "well Trump is a smart guy, if he thought Barr was working against him, he would call him out like he did Sessions," but that was different, since back then all of the Fox New hosts like Hannity, Dobbs, etc, were leading the way by calling out Sessions, and you had establishment GOP figures like Toensing and Di Genova calling him out too. But now, with CIA Barr, you have all the Fox news hosts (Hannity, Ingraham) saying how wonderful Barr is (Dobbs is suspicious but defers to Toensing and DiGenova who continue backing Barr). So Trump can't call Barr out, even if he realizes he's been had with the declass, because he would be all alone and it would alienate him from the rest of the GOP who keep saying Barr is great.

Also, Sundance suggests that Nunes knows, which is why he's given up on CIA Barr's DOJ and is pursuing lawsuits on his own. And I most certainly think Trump has been had by CIA Barr because, if Barr was on Trump's side, immediately upon the end of the Mueller investigation, he should have declassified all the documents leading to the Russia hoax--I think that if he had gotten the those out there and exposed it as a coup, then I think it would have been harder for the Dems to get away with coup #2. But now they have gotten away with coup #2, and they have a knife to his neck in the form of impeachment).



As I said, I couldn't find Sundance's original post, but found this which references it and really shows how when Trump had the declass power (prior to giving it to Barr) he had power over so many people, including other nations involved in the coup. He lost all of his power when he gave it too Barr



https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/trump_declassification_and_leverage.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/trump_declassification_and_leverage.html)



But Sundance spells out very specifically where the greatest risk – and therefore the greatest leverage – lies:


Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein created the special counsel under fraudulent pretense. That origination material (Ohr 302's, FISA pages, origination EC, and Page/Strzok messages) is now a risk to the Deputy AG.



There are many other players, in addition to Rosenstein, who are at serious risk. But from the perspective of leverage, Rosenstein is the key because he created the special counsel part of the hoax and because – as a result of A.G. Sessions's recusal – he remains in charge of the special counsel operation. Rosenstein can exercise as much or as little control over Mueller as he wants. Trump's threat of declassification of the "origination material" gives Trump complete leverage over Rosenstein and therefore over Mueller.



Trump's leverage ensures that Rosenstein will very much want to restrain Mueller. If Rosenstein wants to restrain Mueller, Mueller will be restrained. This may explain why we are now seeing key members of Mueller's team leaving and returning to their old jobs. The importance of this is that Mueller has posed the greatest threat to the Trump administration, the greatest annoyance. That threat is now defanged for the immediate future. If Mueller steps out of line, boom! Declassification. By putting declassification on hold, Trump maintains his leverage. And Congress continues to investigate and slowly reveal the truth.



The benefits of this leverage via threat-of-declassification extend well beyond the Russia hoax to other practical political matters. I believe we saw that at play in the Kavanaugh nomination battle. Rod Rosenstein, as DAG, directly supervises the FBI director, Christopher Wray. To say the FBI acted with alacrity and efficiency in exposing the machinations behind the accusations leveled at Kavanaugh would be an understatement. But consider: Sundance himself was distinctly alarmist during the Kavanaugh hearings, alleging a plot of Deep State FBI-DOJ insiders to torpedo the nomination (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/06/how-deep-is-this-swamp/). As we've seen, however, exactly the opposite occurred. The FBI leaped to Kavanaugh's defense, and I attribute that to Trump's leverage over the DOJ-FBI through Rosenstein. [...]







Justin Raimondo at Anti-War.com has a blog post up that complements Sundance's "leverage" perspective quite nicely: "The Final Truth of Russia-gate: As the hoax unravels, the real story of 'foreign collusion' comes out (https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/10/07/the-final-truth-of-russia-gate/)." Raimondo focuses on the role of foreign "allies" in the plot against Trump. As on the domestic front, there were multiple players: Australia, Ukraine, Estonia, Israel. The key player was undoubtedly the U.K. Without massive intelligence involvement by the U.K., the entire Russia hoax would likely never have gotten off the ground. Here, Raimondo encapsulates that involvement sufficiently for our purposes (much more could be said):



This entire episode has Her Majesty's Secret Service's fingerprints all over it. Steele's key role is plain enough: here was a British spook who was not only hired by the Clinton campaign to dig up dirt on Trump but was unusually passionate about his work – almost as if he'd have done it for free. And then there was the earliest approach to the Trump campaign, made by Cambridge professor and longtime spook Stefan Halper to Carter Page. And then there's the mysterious alleged "link" to Russian intelligence, Professor Joseph Mifsud, whose murky British-based thinktank managed to operate openly despite later claims it was a Russian covert operation.
It was Mifsud who orchestrated the Russia-gate hoax, first suggesting that the Russians had Hillary Clinton's emails, and then disappearing into thin air as soon as the story he had planted percolated into plain view. Some "Russian agent"!



Leverage, anyone? Declassification would expose all these foreign players, but the heaviest hit by far would be against the U.K. and its Australian poodle. And so we learn that "key allies" "begged" Trump not to declassify that "origination material."
Raimondo notes:

Trump's decision to walk back his announcement that the key Russia-gate intelligence would be declassified tells us almost as much as if he'd tweeted it out, unredacted. For what it tells us is that public knowledge of the contents would constitute a major break in relations with at least one key ally.




Yes, Trump smoked them out and got them begging for mercy, as reported by the major media in all too transparent detail.

Trump ends up with all the leverage he needs over "Her Majesty's Government" for as long as that leverage is useful.

Well played, Mr. President!





And now all that leverage is GONE b/c he trusted DEEP STATE SWAMP RAT, ONCE CIA, ALWAYS CIA

[Dachsie]

I too am thankful that president Trump has thus far managed to keep us out of war. Of all the other so called choices of people that could be sitting in his office, we at least have someone with a track record that has kept us out of war. Am thanking God for that and continuing to pray for him.

Our entire government and all congress has been steeped in deep false flag lies for decades and the bad laws they make are based on and come from those deep lies.

[PatColo]

in a more perfect world where killery$^^^$ were preznit, there wouldn't now be all this inconvenient 'debate' over state conducted political assasinations, international law, yada yada yada (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOB6iQZU4AAJc_x?format=png&name=small)...

#ClintonBodyCount (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ClintonBodyCount)

[EE_]

EE_, Iranians, Persia, are not Arab sand niggers. This is not meant to justify any of the evil committed by the Iranian rulers against their own citizens or other countries. I don’t buy the mainstream media and Netanyahu, Trump, & Pompeo bs that Iran is the sponsor of terrorism in the M.E. and the world. Look no further than our own corrupt government

Click on this article (below) to see what an Iranian national looks like. What does he look like to you? White, or a SN
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/14/exclusive-iranian-national-arrested-near-mar-a-lago-with-machete-knives-came-to-u-s-as-refugee/

Exclusive: Iranian National Arrested Near Mar-a-Lago with Machete, Knives Came to U.S. as Refugee
JOHN BINDER14 Jan 20201,926

An Iranian national arrested near President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, originally arrived in the United States as a refugee, Breitbart News has learned.

On January 10, Palm Beach Police Department arrested 38-year-old Masoud Yarieilzoleh, from Iran, who was apparently sleeping in a gazebo in a park in Palm Beach, according to the Palm Beach Post. When police searched Yarieilzoleh, they found a 17-inch machete, two 4.5-inch knives, and an ax, along with about $22,000 in cash.

Also, Yarieilzoleh’s car had been parked at Palm Beach International Airport. Yarieilzoleh was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and has since been released from police custody with only a notice to appear in court later this month.

A law enforcement source exclusively confirmed to Breitbart News that Yarieilzoleh first arrived in the U.S. from Iran in 2014 as a refugee. Two years later, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) awarded Yarieilzoleh with a green card, which allows him to permanently remain in the country.

Between 2009 and 2016, former President Obama resettled more than 25,000 refugees from Iran in the U.S. despite the country being on the State Department’s list of state sponsors of terrorism since 1984.

Yarieilzoleh’s arrest comes as 19 Republican governors, including Tennessee’s Bill Lee, Arkansas’ Asa Hutchinson, and Iowa’s Kim Reynolds, have signed on to continue resettling refugees in their states. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is the only Republican governor in the country thus far who has said his state will halt refugee resettlement. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has yet to announce his decision.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/14/exclusive-iranian-national-arrested-near-mar-a-lago-with-machete-knives-came-to-u-s-as-refugee/

[monty]

Yes there are are some Arabs in Iran.

https://www.thoughtco.com/is-it-iranian-or-persian-3555178

[Horn]

in a more perfect world where killery$^^^$ were preznit, there wouldn't now be all this inconvenient 'debate' over state conducted political assasinations, international law, yada yada yada (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOB6iQZU4AAJc_x?format=png&name=small)...

#ClintonBodyCount (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ClintonBodyCount)

Its only an Assassination if there's no warning.

If Clinton was in, the warning would be evident.

[monty]

Kurt Nimmo’s blog Pompeo’s Mafia Hit Strategy

https://kurtnimmo.blog/2020/01/15/pompeo-and-the-mafia-hit-strategy/


Hardly. This is simply another anti-Trump gimmick. If you look beyond this one-dimensional pre-election circus, you’ll see Trump’s orthodox Jewish son-in-law, Sheldon Adelson, and a cast of Zionist characters steering the president into war with Israel’s enemies. Indeed, Trump is driven by a pathological need for attention and this has been successfully exploited by neocons in the service of a tiny nation based on racial and religious superiority.

Pompeo and the Mafia Hit Strategy – Another Day in the Empire



The neolib USG with its Israel-first neocon faction is the largest and most deadly Mafia organization in the world.
The USG Mafia hit on Qassem Soleimani is part of a larger murder campaign, according to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

For the former tank commander, murder—not simply double-tapping the target with a firearm, but blowing him into meaty chunks with a Hellfire missile—is “real deterrence.”

Pompeo said (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-pompeo-soleimani-idUSKBN1ZC2I3) during a speech at Stanford University’s Hoover Institute “there was ‘a bigger strategy’ behind the killing of Soleimani, the commander of the Quds Force, Iran’s elite foreign espionage and paramilitary force.

“President Trump and those of us in his national security team are re-establishing deterrence – real deterrence ‒ against the Islamic Republic of Iran,” he said.

“Your adversary must understand not only that you have the capacity to impose cost but that you’re in fact willing to do so,” Pompeo said, adding that the 2015 Iranian nuclear deal from which Trump withdrew in 2018 had emboldened Tehran.


The USG Mafia Hit Strategy on steroids is not confined to threatening Iran, however. Pompeo eluded to Russia and China’s leaders being assassinated.
“The importance of deterrence isn’t confined to Iran,” Pompeo said. “In all cases, we must deter foes to defend freedom. That’s the whole point of President Trump’s work to make our military the strongest it’s ever been.”
He cited the resumption of lethal military aid to Ukraine for defense against Russia-backed separatists, Trump’s withdrawal from an arms control accord with Moscow and tests of a new U.S. intermediate-range cruise missile.
Pompeo also pointed to increased U.S. naval exercises in the South China Sea in response to China’s militarization of disputed islands and Trump’s imposition of tariffs on Chinese imports as aspects of the administration’s deterrence strategy.
“We’re restoring credibility to deterrence,” he said.


Pompeo didn’t come out and say Trump’s government will steer Hellfire missiles specifically at Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, or even Kim Jung-un. The message, however, is inescapable, especially for folks opposed to neoliberal crony capitalist domination of their national economies, industries, public services, and natural resources
Iran wants a nuke to prevent an attack by the USG in collaboration with the Zionist government in Israel. Ditto, North Korea. It remembers when the USG bombed virtually every city, town, and hamlet in the country and killed a third of the population. No doubt the mullahs in Tehran vividly recall Muammar Gaddafi’s fate. They also remember how the CIA colluded with the Brits to overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a monarchial tyrant.

It is entirely rational to seek the most effective deterrent to foreign invasion and mass murder campaigns waged relentlessly by the crony capitalist neolib USG and its little vicious client, Israel, the racist state where only Jews are considered first-class citizens and Arabs are tortured and killed—or at best maimed (during anti-occupation protests, Israel snipers are instructed to aim for the eyes (http://imemc.org/article/report-israeli-snipers-target-gaza-protesters-in-the-eyes/)).

For neocons, Trumpsters, and Fox News teleprompter readers, “taking out” Soleimani in Mafia hit fashion “was a brilliant move.”
.@jockowillink (https://twitter.com/jockowillink?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) says President @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)'s gamble ordering the strike that killed Soleimani was a brilliant move that killed an enemy of America and the Iranian people on #TheBrianKilmeadeShow (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheBrianKilmeadeShow?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) @foxnation (https://twitter.com/foxnation?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) @foxnewsradio (https://twitter.com/foxnewsradio?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) https://t.co/2w4S5n3yC8
— Brian Kilmeade (@kilmeade) January 14, 2020 (https://twitter.com/kilmeade/status/1217140010199195649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


Yes, of course, murdering leaders of recalcitrant nations is considered a “brilliant move” by psychopaths. The Italian-Jewish Mafia killed opponents one-by-one or in small groups while the USG kills opponents in the thousands, even the millions. The Gambino family and Kosher Nostra founded by Arnold Rothstein (who was himself assassinated) would have loved to take out their opponents with Reaper drones and Hellfire missiles, courtesy of witless US taxpayers and debt-serfs.
State Department officials involved in U.S. embassy security were not made aware of imminent threats to four specific U.S. embassies, two State Department officials said, further undermining Trump's claims that Soleimani posed an imminent threat. https://t.co/sG9ZXyxOa3
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 13, 2020 (https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1216826019807662080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


USG embassies were not and are not under threat by Iran. In Iraq, the people protesting outside the embassy are Iraqis. They want the USG and its contractors out of their country which is still reeling from Bush the Lesser’s invasion, a follow-up on more than a decade of child-killing (over 500,000) sanctions and a previous invasion by Junior’s father, the former CIA boss who would become president.

Corporate war propaganda media is pushing the narrative that Trump impulsively decided to slaughter Soleimani, as if it simply came to him out of the blue.
.@douglaslondon5 (https://twitter.com/douglaslondon5?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw), who retired from CIA at the end of 2018, writes that he and his team “often struggled in persuading the president to recognize the most important threats” because of Trump’s “focus on celebrity, headlines, and immediate gratification.” https://t.co/1SlVDNb44l
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) January 15, 2020 (https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1217475511447932931?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


Hardly. This is simply another anti-Trump gimmick. If you look beyond this one-dimensional pre-election circus, you’ll see Trump’s orthodox Jewish son-in-law, Sheldon Adelson, and a cast of Zionist characters steering the president into war with Israel’s enemies. Indeed, Trump is driven by a pathological need for attention and this has been successfully exploited by neocons in the service of a tiny nation based on racial and religious superiority.
The basic method Trump used to kill Soleimani was developed by the Israelis >30 years ago. Here's a screen shot from “Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations,” by Israeli author Ronen Bergman, here describing Israeli developments in late 1980s pic.twitter.com/MWKifPPjPF (https://t.co/MWKifPPjPF)
— James Perloff (@jamesperloff) January 14, 2020 (https://twitter.com/jamesperloff/status/1217208728988024834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


The neolib USG with its Israel-first neocon faction is the largest and most deadly Mafia organization in the world. The US government has killed millions since the end of FDR’s war under false pretense and has overthrown countries far and wide. It trains and enables sadistic paramilitaries, has armed crazed Wahhabi jihadists, and is the only country to have used a nuclear weapon against innocent civilians.

https://i0.wp.com/kurtnimmo.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/creatdive-commons-by-sa_rgb-350x122.png?resize=100%2C35&ssl=1

[PatColo]

Adam Green pub'd this 3 days ago, & promptly moved it to his backup YT channel to help protect his main ch from strikes. Nearly 2h, it's info packed, must see. He was sparked to make it after seeing some "antiwar" joowess speaking to a crowd, trying to blame "old rich WHITE men" as being the driving force behind this latest Iran war for Izzy push.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtDay-pdaA)Zion Wars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtDay-pdaA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtDay-pdaA
14K views
3 days ago

[Dachsie]

here is the 1.5 hour

White Man Wars on Bitchute

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aBzlnZOhtZ0/

Adam does good commentary.

The whole "rich old white men" is a long-time, standard, mantra of the Marxists / Leftists, and it works just as well today as it did when Karl Heinrich Marx got his synagogue of Satan going full force.

Now our national sovereignty is destroyed by design, destroyed from within by the lovers of this world who want there to me no more sovereign nations.

The Slaughter of Cities book by E Michael Jones explains recent US history pretty well. Kennedy clan's Sargent Shriver oversaw that slaughter operation under the Democrat label.

But Christ has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind.

Apocalypse: 20:20-21
[20] He that giveth testimony of these things, saith, Surely I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
[21] The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

[Amanda]

Kurt Nimmo’s blog Pompeo’s Mafia Hit Strategy

https://kurtnimmo.blog/2020/01/15/pompeo-and-the-mafia-hit-strategy/


The neolib USG with its Israel-first neocon faction is the largest and most deadly Mafia organization in the world.
The USG Mafia hit on Qassem Soleimani is part of a larger murder campaign, according to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.



Yes, that's how I see it--the US is an international terrorist mafia!

This guy sees it that way too:

The West Is Run by Barbarians By Peter Koenig

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52847.htm


How much longer are we accepting the tyrannical dictate of the American rulers? It gets worse by the day – and it looks like the western world’s “leaders” are caving in ever more to the American killing machine – the European Union – and all its members heads of state, and all the Zion-Anglosaxons and Japan – no one dares standing up and shouting “NO!” – no more of your hegemonic atrocities! – But they all bend over backwards to please a criminal empire, run like the Barbarians.


Imagine, the so-called world leader invites you to a foreign country to help mediate between different factions, you accept, and when you arrive at the airport, he kills you. Then he smiles and boasts in utter satisfaction that he has given the order to kill – kill by remote control, by drone. Much worse than extra-judiciary murder, because there was never any accusation launched against you – except for lies.

That’s exactly what happened, with the beloved, brilliant and charismatic Iranian General Qassem Suleimani. And that’s what Trump’s miserable minions, like Foreign Secretary Mike Pompeo and War Minister, Mark Esper, shamelessly deny, namely that they invited him by intermediary of Iraq’s Prime Minister. Pompeo in front of a White House press briefing, cynically laughing, asked journalists – “would you believe such nonsense?” – And of course, none of the MSM journalists would dare say yes – even if they believed it. Instead they laugh congenially to express their agreement with the horrifying murderer-in-complicity in front of them, the Barbarian Sates highest diplomat, as it were. The MSM journalists are too coward to fearing risking their jobs, or losing access to the White House press-room.


Yet, that is precisely what the Prime Minister of Iraq, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, said in disbelief and awe: “Trump asked me to mediate with Iran – and then he kills my invitee.” Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi has certainly more credibility than Trump or any of his cronies, foremost US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who not too long ago told RT: “[When] I was the CIA director, we lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment.”


General Soleimani was picked up at Bagdad airport by Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the Iraqi military commander and leader of the People’s Mobilization Forces. They drove off in a SUV, when US-drone missiles hit and pulverized them, along with 10 other high-ranking military from both countries.


Soleimani had diplomatic immunity – and the US knew about it. But no rule, no law and no standard of ethics is respected by Washington. A behavior very much like the one of the Barbarians. General Soleimani, who was much more than a general, he was also a great diplomat, was asked by PM Abdul-Mahdi on behalf of Trump to come to Bagdad to be part of a mediation process that Trump asked PM Abdul-Mahdi to lead, to ease tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia, as well as between the US and Iran. This was an abjectly, cowardly ploy to assassinate Qassem Soleimani. – How deep can you sink? There are no words to describe the horrible crime.

[Jewboo]

Soleimani had diplomatic immunity – and the US knew about it. But no rule, no law and no standard of ethics is respected by Washington. A behavior very much like the one of the Barbarians. General Soleimani, who was much more than a general, he was also a great diplomat, was asked by PM Abdul-Mahdi on behalf of Trump to come to Bagdad to be part of a mediation process that Trump asked PM Abdul-Mahdi to lead, to ease tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia, as well as between the US and Iran. This was an abjectly, cowardly ploy to assassinate Qassem Soleimani. – How deep can you sink? There are no words to describe the horrible crime.


President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and faith leaders participate in an Oval Office prayer.

:rolleyes:
(https://www.marketwatch.com/story/christians-have-a-moral-obligation-to-enthusiastically-back-trump-in-2020-according-to-prominent-evangelical-2019-10-09)

[Amanda]

President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and faith leaders participate in an Oval Office prayer.

:rolleyes:
(https://www.marketwatch.com/story/christians-have-a-moral-obligation-to-enthusiastically-back-trump-in-2020-according-to-prominent-evangelical-2019-10-09)

I thought you were going to show me the one with Trump surrounded by those Chabbad cultist, but I suppose those guys don't actually pray.

[monty]

Whitney Webb with her latest on a secret meeting of the Iraqi parliament, and Trump’s true motives in Iraq

How a Hidden Parliamentary Session Revealed Trump's True Motives in Iraq (https://www.mintpressnews.com/hidden-parliamentary-session-revealed-trump-motives-iraq-china-oil/264155/)

by Whitney Webb

Since the U.S. killed Iranian General Qassem Soleimani and Iraqi militia leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis earlier this month, the official narrative has held that their deaths were necessary to prevent a vague, yet allegedly imminent, threat of violence towards Americans, though President Trump has since claimed (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/14/after-days-claiming-soleimani-posed-imminent-threat-us-trump-finally-declares-it) whether or not Soleimani or his Iraqi allies posed an imminent threat “doesn’t really matter.”

While the situation between Iran, Iraq and the U.S. appears to have de-escalated substantially, at least for now, it is worth revisiting the lead-up to the recent U.S.-Iraq/Iran tensions up to the Trump-mandated killing of Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis in order to understand one of the most overlooked yet relevant drivers behind Trump’s current policy with respect to Iraq: preventing China from expanding its foothold in the Middle East. Indeed, it has been alleged that even the timing of Soleimani’s assassination was directly related to his diplomatic role in Iraq and his push to help Iraq secure its oil independence, beginning with the implementation of a new massive oil deal with China.

While recent rhetoric (https://theintercept.com/2019/11/18/iran-iraq-spy-cables/) in the media has dwelled (https://thehill.com/opinion/international/473606-iraqs-riots-threaten-irans-plan-for-middle-east-dominance) on the extent of Iran’s influence in Iraq, China’s recent dealings with Iraq — particularly in its oil sector — are to blame for much of what has transpired in Iraq in recent months, at least according to Iraq’s Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi, who is currently serving in a caretaker role.


https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/plugins/lazy-load/images/1x1.trans.gif
(https://www.gofundme.com/fighting-social-media-censorship)
Much of the U.S. pressure exerted on Iraq’s government with respect to China has reportedly taken place covertly and behind closed doors, keeping the Trump administration’s concerns over China’s growing ties to Iraq largely out of public view, perhaps over concerns that a public scuffle could exacerbate the U.S.-China “trade war” and endanger efforts to resolve it. Yet, whatever the reasons may be, evidence strongly suggests that the U.S. is equally concerned about China’s presence in Iraq as it is with Iran’s. This is because China has the means and the ability to dramatically undermine not only the U.S.’ control over Iraq’s oil sector but the entire petrodollar system on which the U.S.’ status as both a financial and military superpower directly

Behind the curtain, a different narrative for Iraq-US Tensions

Iraq’s caretaker Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi gave a series of remarks on January 5, during a parliamentary session that received surprisingly little media attention. During the session, which also saw Iraq’s Parliament approve the removal of all foreign (including American) troops from the country, Abdul-Mahdi made a series of claims about the lead-up to the recent situation that placed Iraq at the heart of spiking U.S.-Iran tensions.

During that session, only part of Abdul-Mahdi’s statements were broadcast on television, after the Iraqi Speaker of the House — Mohammed Al-Halbousi, who has a close relationship (https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/iraq-parliament-speaker-says-us-military-support-vital-in-combating-isis-1.842352) with Washington — requested the video feed be cut. Al-Halbousi oddly attended the parliamentary session even though it was boycotted by his allied Sunni and Kurdish representatives.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/plugins/lazy-load/images/1x1.trans.gifSecretary of State Pompeo, left, walks alongside Al-Halbousi in Baghdad, Iraq on Jan. 9, 2019. Andrew Caballero-Reynolds | Reuters

After the feed was cut, MPs who were present wrote down Abdul-Mahdi’s remarks, which were then given to the Arabic news outlet Ida’at. Per that transcript (https://ida2at.org/news/2020/01/06/4753/%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%B4%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82%D9%8A-501202), Abdul-Mahdi stated that:
The Americans are the ones who destroyed the country and wreaked havoc on it. They have refused to finish building the electrical system and infrastructure projects. They have bargained for the reconstruction of Iraq in exchange for Iraq giving up 50% of oil imports. So, I refused and decided to go to China and concluded an important and strategic agreement with it. Today, Trump is trying to cancel this important agreement.”



Abdul-Mahdi continued his remarks, noting that pressure from the Trump administration over his negotiations and subsequent dealings with China grew substantially over time, even resulting in death threats to himself and his defense minister:
After my return from China, Trump called me and asked me to cancel the agreement, so I also refused, and he threatened [that there would be] massive demonstrations to topple me. Indeed, the demonstrations started and then Trump called, threatening to escalate in the event of non-cooperation and responding to his wishes, whereby a third party [presumed to be mercenaries or U.S. soldiers] would target both the demonstrators and security forces and kill them from atop the highest buildings and the US embassy in an attempt to pressure me and submit to his wishes and cancel the China agreement.”

“I did not respond and submitted my resignation and the Americans still insist to this day on canceling the China agreement. When the defense minister said that those killing the demonstrators was a third party, Trump called me immediately and physically threatened myself and the defense minister in the event that there was more talk about this third party.”



Very few English language outlets reported (https://southfront.org/iraqi-prime-minister-was-forced-to-resign-after-trump-threatened-his-life/) on Abdul-Mahdi’s comments. Tom Luongo, a Florida-based Independent Analyst (https://twitter.com/TFL1728) and publisher of The Gold Goats ‘n Guns Newsletter, told MintPress that the likely reasons for the “surprising” media silence over Abdul-Mahdi’s claims were because “It never really made it out into official channels…” due to the cutting of the video feed during Iraq’s Parliamentary session and due to the fact that “it’s very inconvenient and the media — since Trump is doing what they want him to do, be belligerent with Iran, protected Israel’s interests there.”

“They aren’t going to contradict him on that if he’s playing ball,” Luongo added, before continuing that the media would nonetheless “hold onto it for future reference….If this comes out for real, they’ll use it against him later if he tries to leave Iraq.” “Everything in Washington is used as leverage,” he added.

Given the lack of media coverage and the cutting of the video feed of Abdul-Mahdi’s full remarks, it is worth pointing out that the narrative he laid out in his censored speech not only fits with the timeline of recent events he discusses but also the tactics known to have been employed behind closed doors by the Trump administration, particularly after Mike Pompeo left the CIA to become Secretary of State.

For instance, Abdul-Mahdi’s delegation to China ended on September 24, with the protests against his government that Trump reportedly threatened to start on October 1. Reports of a “third side” firing on Iraqi protesters were picked up by major media outlets at the time, such as in this BBC report (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50287644) which stated:
Reports say the security forces opened fire, but another account says unknown gunmen were responsible….a source in Karbala told the BBC that one of the dead was a guard at a nearby Shia shrine who happened to be passing by. The source also said the origin of the gunfire was unknown and it had targeted both the protesters and security forces. (emphasis added)”



U.S.-backed protests in other countries, such as in Ukraine in 2014, also saw evidence of a “third side (https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/22/the-buried-maidan-massacre-and-its-misrepresentation-by-the-west/)” shooting both protesters and security forces alike.

After six weeks of intense protests (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50181212), Abdul-Mahdi submitted his resignation (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/29/iraq-pm-resign-protests-abdul-mahdi-al-sistani) on November 29, just a few days after (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-11/25/c_138580514.htm) Iraq’s Foreign Minister praised the new deals, including the “oil for reconstruction” deal, that had been signed with China. Abdul-Mahdi has since stayed on as Prime Minister in a caretaker role until Parliament decides on his replacement.

Abdul-Mahdi’s claims of the covert pressure by the Trump administration are buttressed by the use of similar tactics against Ecuador, where, in July 2018, a U.S. delegation at the United Nations threatened the nation (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/09/us-opposition-to-breastfeeding-reportedly-stuns-world-health-officials.html) with punitive trade measures and the withdrawal of military aid if Ecuador moved forward with the introduction of a UN resolution to “protect, promote and support breastfeeding.”

The New York Times reported at the time that the U.S. delegation was seeking to promote the interests of infant formula manufacturers. If the U.S. delegation is willing to use such pressure on nations for promoting breastfeeding over infant formula, it goes without saying that such behind-closed-doors pressure would be significantly more intense if a much more lucrative resource, e.g. oil, were involved.
Regarding Abdul-Mahdi’s claims, Luongo told MintPress that it is also worth considering that it could have been anyone in the Trump administration making threats to Abdul-Mahdi, not necessarily Trump himself. “What I won’t say directly is that I don’t know it was Trump at the other end of the phone calls. Mahdi, it is to his best advantage politically to blame everything on Trump. It could have been Mike Pompeo or Gina Haspel talking to Abdul-Mahdi… It could have been anyone, it most likely would be someone with plausible deniability….This [Mahdi’s claims] sounds credible… I firmly believe Trump is capable of making these threats but I don’t think Trump would make those threats directly like that, but it would absolutely be consistent with U.S. policy.”

Luongo also argued that the current tensions between U.S. and Iraqi leadership preceded the oil deal between Iraq and China by several weeks, “All of this starts with Prime Minister Mahdi starting the process of opening up the Iraq-Syria border crossing and that was announced in August. Then, the Israeli air attacks happened in September to try and stop that from happening, attacks on PMU forces on the border crossing along with the ammo dump attacks near Baghdad… This drew the Iraqis’ ire… Mahdi then tried to close the air space over Iraq, but how much of that he can enforce is a big question.”

As to why it would be to Mahdi’s advantage to blame Trump, Luongo stated that Mahdi “can make edicts all day long, but, in reality, how much can he actually restrain the U.S. or the Israelis from doing anything? Except for shame, diplomatic shame… To me, it [Mahdi’s claims] seems perfectly credible because, during all of this, Trump is probably or someone else is shaking him [Mahdi] down for the reconstruction of the oil fields …Trump has explicitly stated “we want the oil.”’

As Luongo noted, Trump’s interest in the U.S. obtaining a significant share of Iraqi oil revenue is hardly a secret. Just last March, Trump asked Abdul-Mahdi (https://www.axios.com/trump-to-iraqi-pm-how-about-that-oil-1a31cbfa-f20c-4767-8d18-d518ed9a6543.html) “How about the oil?” at the end of a meeting at the White House, prompting Abdul-Mahdi to ask “What do you mean?” To which Trump responded “Well, we did a lot, we did a lot over there, we spent trillions over there, and a lot of people have been talking about the oil,” which was widely interpreted as Trump asking for part of Iraq’s oil revenue in exchange for the steep costs of the U.S.’ continuing its now unwelcome military presence in Iraq.

With Abdul-Mahdi having rejected Trump’s “oil for reconstruction” proposal in favor of China’s, it seems likely that the Trump administration would default to so-called “gangster diplomacy” tactics to pressure Iraq’s government into accepting Trump’s deal, especially given the fact that China’s deal was a much better offer. While Trump demanded half of Iraq’s oil revenue in exchange for completing reconstruction projects (according to Abdul-Mahdi), the deal that was signed between Iraq and China would see around 20 percen (https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-china-india-oil-construction.html)t of Iraq’s oil revenue go to China in exchange for reconstruction. Aside from the potential loss in Iraq’s oil revenue, there are many reasons for the Trump administration to feel threatened by China’s recent dealings in Iraq.

[I]The Iraq-China oil deal – a prelude to something more?

When Abdul-Mahdi’s delegation traveled to Beijing last September, the “oil for reconstruction” deal was only one of eight total agreements (https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/business/story/Iraq_signs_eight_agreements_with_China-ZAWYA20190930052019/)that were established. These agreements cover a range of areas, including financial, commercial, security, reconstruction, communication, culture, education and foreign affairs in addition to oil. Yet, the oil deal is by far the most significant.

Per the agreement, Chinese firms will work on various reconstruction projects in exchange for roughly 20 percent of Iraq’s oil exports, approximately 100,00 barrels per day, for a period of 20 years. According to Al-Monitor (https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-china-india-oil-construction.html), Abdul-Mahdi had the following to say about the deal: “We agreed [with Beijing] to set up a joint investment fund, which the oil money will finance,” adding that the agreement prohibits China from monopolizing projects inside Iraq, forcing Bejing to work in cooperation with international firms.

The agreement is similar to one negotiated between Iraq and China (https://thediplomat.com/2015/12/china-and-iraq-announce-strategic-partnership/) in 2015 when Abdul-Mahdi was serving as Iraq’s oil minister. That year, Iraq joined China’s Belt and Road Initiative in a deal that also involved exchanging oil for investment, development and construction projects and saw China awarded several projects as a result. In a notable similarity to recent events, that deal was put on hold due to “political and security tensions” caused by unrest and the surge of ISIS in Iraq, that is until Abdul-Mahdi saw Iraq rejoin the initiative (https://thediplomat.com/2019/10/china-not-iran-is-the-power-to-watch-in-iraq/) again late last year through the agreements his government signed with China last September.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/plugins/lazy-load/images/1x1.trans.gifChinese President Xi Jinping, center left, meet with Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi, center right, in Beijing, Sept. 23, 2019. Lintao Zhang | AP

Notably, after recent tensions between the U.S. and Iraq over the assassination of Soleimani and the U.S.’ subsequent refusal to remove its troops from Iraq despite parliament’s demands, Iraq quietly announced that it would dramatically increase its oil exports to China to triple the amount (http://egyptoil-gas.com/news/iraq-china-oil-exports-to-increase-to-300000-bbld/) established in the deal signed in September. Given Abdul-Mahdi’s recent claims about the true forces behind Iraq’s recent protests and Trump’s threats against him being directly related to his dealings with China, the move appears to be a not-so-veiled signal from Abdul-Mahdi to Washington that he plans to deepen Iraq’s partnership with China, at least for as long as he remains in his caretaker role.

Iraq’s decision to dramatically increase its oil exports to China came just one day after the U.S. government threatened to cut off Iraq’s access (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns-iraq-it-risks-losing-access-to-key-bank-account-if-troops-told-to-leave-11578759629) to its central bank account, currently held at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, an account that currently holds (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/iraq-iran-warns-of-collapse-donald-trump-blocks-oil-cash-12257958) $35 billion in Iraqi oil revenue. The account was set up after (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/iraq-iran-warns-of-collapse-donald-trump-blocks-oil-cash-12257958) the U.S. invaded and began occupying Iraq in 2003 and Iraq currently removes between $1-2 billion per month to cover essential government expenses. Losing access to its oil revenue stored in that account would lead to the “collapse (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/iraq-iran-warns-of-collapse-donald-trump-blocks-oil-cash-12257958)” of Iraq’s government, according to Iraqi government officials who spoke to AFP.

Though Trump publicly promised to rebuke Iraq for the expulsion of U.S. troops via sanctions, the threat to cut off Iraq’s access to its account at the NY Federal Reserve Bank was delivered privately and directly to the Prime Minister, adding further credibility to Abdul-Mahdi’s claims that Trump’s most aggressive attempts at pressuring Iraq’s government are made in private and directed towards the country’s Prime Minister.

Though Trump’s push this time was about preventing the expulsion of U.S. troops from Iraq, his reasons for doing so may also be related to concerns about China’s growing foothold in the region. Indeed, while Trump has now lost his desired share of Iraqi oil revenue (50 percent) to China’s counteroffer of 20 percent, the removal of U.S. troops from Iraq may see American troops replaced with their Chinese counterparts as well, according to Tom Luongo.

“All of this is about the U.S. maintaining the fiction that it needs to stay in Iraq…So, China moving in there is the moment where they get their toe hold for the Belt and Road ,” Luongo argued. “That helps to strengthen the economic relationship between Iraq, Iran and China and obviating the need for the Americans to stay there. At some point, China will have assets on the ground that they are going to want to defend militarily in the event of any major crisis. This brings us to the next thing we know, that Mahdi and the Chinese ambassador discussed that very thing in the wake of the Soleimani killing.”

Indeed, according to news reports, Zhang Yao — China’s ambassador to Iraq — “conveyed Beijing’s readiness (https://twitter.com/RudawEnglish/status/1214170432603086853?s=20) to provide military assistance” should Iraq’s government request it soon after Soleimani’s assassination. Yao made the offer a day after Iraq’s parliament voted to expel American troops from the country. Though it is currently unknown how Abdul-Mahdi responded to the offer, the timing likely caused no shortage of concern among the Trump administration about its rapidly waning influence in Iraq. “You can see what’s coming here,” Luongo told [I]MintPress of the recent Chinese offer to Iraq, “China, Russia and Iran are trying to cleave Iraq away from the United States and the U.S. is feeling very threatened by this.”

Russia is also playing a role in the current scenario as Iraq initiated talks with Moscow regarding the possible purchase (https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001091077988577-iraq-resumes-talks-with-russia-on-purchase-of-s-300s-amid-mideast-tensions---mp/) of one of its air defense systems last September, the same month that Iraq signed eight deals, including the oil deal with China. Then, in the wake of Soleimani’s death, Russia again offered (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-offers-iraq-s-400-air-defense-system-to-protect-airspace/) the air defense systems to Iraq to allow them to better defend their air space. In the past, the U.S. has threatened (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/17/how-us-sanctions-on-turkey-over-russian-s400-deal-could-backfire.html) allied countries (https://www.rt.com/news/440657-india-us-sanctions-s400/) with sanctions and other measures if they purchase Russian air defense systems as opposed to those manufactured by U.S. companies.

The U.S.’ efforts to curb China’s growing influence and presence in Iraq amid these new strategic partnerships and agreements are limited, however, as the U.S. is increasingly relying (https://rt.com/business/478104-us-china-iranian-oil/) on China as part of its Iran policy, specifically in its goal of reducing Iranian oil export to zero. China remains Iran’s main crude oil and condensate importer, even after it reduced its imports of Iranian oil significantly following U.S. pressure last year. Yet, the U.S. is now attempting to pressure (https://rt.com/business/478104-us-china-iranian-oil/) China to stop buying Iranian oil completely or face sanctions while also attempting to privately sabotage the China-Iraq oil deal. It is highly unlikely China will concede to the U.S. on both, if any, of those fronts, meaning the U.S. may be forced to choose which policy front (Iran “containment” vs. Iraq’s oil dealings with China) it values more in the coming weeks and months.

Furthermore, the recent signing of the “phase one” trade deal with China revealed another potential facet of the U.S.’ increasingly complicated relationship with Iraq’s oil sector given that the trade deal involves selling U.S. oil and gas to China at very low cost (https://news.yahoo.com/oil-opportunity-china-us-phase-164654647.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8_cT1j aGluYStpcmFuK3RyYWRlK2RlYWwmdD1jYW5vbmljYWwmYXRiPX YxNzctMSZpYXI9bmV3cyZpYT1uZXdz&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGIilAofl1OOj-KyE_FlY9upWUthRQL_c7Obmwu6P-OJGFVbmFZ29_xAaOJyeytP1vZAu1DTsMQPvpKZ33gPEpY0gOxH kL3fBCdYVzU0ZthN1cTbpjWCMo3WJxN_t0KGAS1kT66a1vSkpy 8qEHxE6tYh7wGnyGtfy-bEL9j48tml), suggesting that the Trump administration may also see the Iraq-China oil deal result in Iraq emerging as a potential competitor for the U.S. in selling cheap oil to China, the world’s top oil importer.

The Petrodollar and the Phantom of the Petroyuan

In his televised statements last week following Iran’s military response to the U.S. assassination of General Soleimani, Trump insisted that the U.S.’ Middle East policy is no longer being directed by America’s vast oil requirements. He stated specifically (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/trump-speech-on-iran-missile-attack-full-statement-and-transcript-096196) that:
Over the last three years, under my leadership, our economy is stronger than ever before and America has achieved energy independence. These historic accomplishments changed our strategic priorities. These are accomplishments that nobody thought were possible. And options in the Middle East became available. We are now the number-one producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world. We are independent, and we do not need Middle East oil. (emphasis added)”



Yet, given the centrality of the recent Iraq-China oil deal in guiding some of the Trump administration’s recent Middle East policy moves, this appears not to be the case. The distinction may lie in the fact that, while the U.S. may now be less dependent on oil imports from the Middle East, it still very much needs to continue to dominate how oil is traded and sold on international markets in order to maintain its status as both a global military and financial superpower.

Indeed, even if the U.S. is importing less Middle Eastern oil, the petrodollar system — first forged in the 1970s — requires that the U.S. maintains enough control over the global oil trade so that the world’s largest oil exporters, Iraq among them, continue to sell their oil in dollars. Were Iraq to sell oil in another currency, or trade oil for services, as it plans to do with China per the recently inked deal, a significant portion of Iraqi oil would cease to generate a demand for dollars, violating the key tenet of the petrodollar system.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/plugins/lazy-load/images/1x1.trans.gifChinese representatives speak to defense personnel during a weapons expo organized by the Iraqi defense ministry in Baghdad, March, 2017. Karim Kadim | AP

As Kei Pritsker and Cale Holmes noted in an article last year for MintPress (https://www.mintpressnews.com/petrodollar-warfare-the-common-thread-linking-venezuela-and-iran/255123/):
The takeaway from the petrodollar phenomenon is that as long as countries need oil, they will need the dollar. As long as countries demand dollars, the U.S. can continue to go into massive amounts of debt to fund its network of global military bases, Wall Street bailouts, nuclear missiles, and tax cuts for the rich.”



Thus, the use of the petrodollar has created a system whereby U.S. control of oil sales of the largest oil exporters is necessary, not just to buttress the dollar, but also to support its global military presence. Therefore, it is unsurprising that the issue of the U.S. troop presence in Iraq and the issue of Iraq’s push for oil independence against U.S. wishes have become intertwined. Notably, one of the architects of the petrodollar system and the man who infamously described U.S. soldiers as “dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy”, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, has been advising Trump (https://www.thedailybeast.com/kissinger-meets-trump-to-advise-on-north-korea-china) and informing his China policy since 2016.




Continued —>

[monty]

—> Continues

https://www.mintpressnews.com/hidden-parliamentary-session-revealed-trump-motives-iraq-china-oil/264155/

This take was also expressed by economist Michael Hudson, who recently noted (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/06/america-escalates-its-democratic-oil-war-in-the-near-east/) that U.S. access to oil, dollarization and U.S. military strategy are intricately interwoven and that Trump’s recent Iraq policy is intended “to escalate America’s presence in Iraq to keep control of the region’s oil reserves,” and, as Hudson says, “to back Saudi Arabia’s Wahabi troops (ISIS, Al Qaeda in Iraq, Al Nusra and other divisions of what are actually America’s foreign legion) to support U.S. control of Near Eastern oil as a buttress of the U.S. dollar.”

Hudson further asserts that it was Qassem Soleimani’s efforts to promote Iraq’s oil independence at the expense of U.S. imperial ambitions that served one of the key motives behind his assassination.

America opposed General Suleimani above all because he was fighting against ISIS and other U.S.-backed terrorists in their attempt to break up Syria and replace Assad’s regime with a set of U.S.-compliant local leaders – the old British “divide and conquer” ploy. On occasion, Suleimani had cooperated with U.S. troops in fighting ISIS groups that got “out of line” meaning the U.S. party line. But every indication is that he was in Iraq to work with that government seeking to regain control of the oil fields that President Trump has bragged so loudly about grabbing. (emphasis added)”



Hudson adds that “…U.S. neocons feared Suleimani’s plan to help Iraq assert control of its oil and withstand the terrorist attacks supported by U.S. and Saudi’s on Iraq. That is what made his assassination an immediate drive.”

While other factors — such as pressure from U.S. allies (https://www.mintpressnews.com/dubious-official-story-qassem-soleimani-assassination/263869/) such as Israel — also played a factor in the decision to kill Soleimani, the decision to assassinate him on Iraqi soil just hours before he was set to meet with Abdul-Mahdi in a diplomatic role suggests that the underlying tensions caused by Iraq’s push for oil independence and its oil deal with China did play a factor in the timing of his assassination. It also served as a threat to Abdul-Mahdi, who has claimed that the U.S. threatened to kill both him and his defense minister just weeks prior over tensions directly related to the push for independence of Iraq’s oil sector from the U.S.

It appears that the ever-present role of the petrodollar in guiding U.S. policy in the Middle East remains unchanged. The petrodollar has long been a driving factor behind the U.S.’ policy towards Iraq specifically, as one of the key triggers for the 2003 invasion of Iraq was Saddam Hussein’s decision to sell Iraqi oil in Euros opposed to dollars beginning in the year 2000. Just weeks before the invasion began, Hussein boasted that Iraq’s Euro-based oil revenue account was earning a higher interest rate (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/feb/16/iraq.theeuro) than it would have been if it had continued to sell its oil in dollars, an apparent signal to other oil exporters that the petrodollar system was only really benefiting the United States at their own expense.

Beyond current efforts to stave off Iraq’s oil independence and keep its oil trade aligned with the U.S., the fact that the U.S. is now seeking to limit China’s ever-growing role in Iraq’s oil sector is also directly related to China’s publicly known efforts to create its own direct competitor to the petrodollar, the petroyuan.

Since 2017, China has made its plans for the petroyuan — a direct competitor to the petrodollar — no secret, particularly after China eclipsed the U.S. as the world’s largest importer of oil. As CNBC noted (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/petro-yuan-china-wants-to-dethrone-dollar-rmb-denominated-oil-contracts.html) at the time:
The new strategy is to enlist the energy markets’ help: Beijing may introduce a new way to price oil in coming months — but unlike the contracts based on the U.S. dollar (https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=.DXY) that currently dominate global markets, this benchmark would use China’s own currency. If there’s widespread adoption, as the Chinese hope, then that will mark a step toward challenging the greenback’s status as the world’s most powerful currency….The plan is to price oil in yuan (https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=CNY=) using a gold-backed futures contract in Shanghai, but the road will be long and arduous.”



If the U.S. continues on its current path and pushes Iraq further into the arms of China and other U.S. rival states, it goes without saying that Iraq — now a part of China’s Belt and Road Initiative — may soon favor a petroyuan system over a petrodollar system, particularly as the current U.S. administration threatens to hold Iraq’s central bank account hostage for pursuing policies Washington finds unfavorable.

It could also explain why President Trump is so concerned about China’s growing foothold in Iraq, since it risks causing not only the end of the U.S. military hegemony in the country but could also lead to major trouble for the petrodollar system and the U.S.’ position as a global financial power. Trump’s policy aimed at stopping China and Iraq’s growing ties is clearly having the opposite effect, showing that this administration’s “gangster diplomacy” only serves to make the alternatives offered by countries like China and Russia all the more attractive.

Feature photo | Graphic by Claudio Cabrera for MintPress News

Whitney Webb is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism.

[PatColo]

(((Larry David))) vs a biker, 17s: https://twitter.com/JoshLeCash/status/1219297821951545346

[Amanda]

This goes over Whitney Webb's work on Iraq working with China, and how that's not okay with the (((US empire)))


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsdAVwsZfs&amp;feature=em-uploademail

Also, on the topic of how the US does not like it when other nations get friendly with China, this seems to explain how things work.

Whenever a nation starts getting friendly with Russia or especially China and it's BRI project, the US sends in ISIS. Also, if a nation starts getting pesky, as in telling the (((US empire))) to get out, then the US sends in ISIS:

Sri Lanka: US-Saudi Terror Behind Deadly Blasts

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2019/04/sri-lanka-us-saudi-terror-targets.html

ISIS itself would also later claim responsibility for the attacks...Absent from US diplomatic statements and Western media reports is any mention of ISIS' inception, its state sponsors, and even admissions by Western intelligence agencies themselves of Washington and its allies' role in the terrorist organization's rise. At face value - devastating and disruptive terrorist attacks visited upon Sri Lanka - a nation that has recently and decisively pivoted from West to East and is now a major partner of Beijing's One Belt, One Road (OBOR) initiative - is suspiciously coincidental.

Examining the West's decades of using terrorism - particularly terrorism fuelled by Saudi Wahhabism - and the inception of ISIS itself - leaves Washington and its partners as the prime suspects behind Sri Lanka's tragic terrorist attack - with its motivation strikingly similar to what prompted the US-Saudi aided rise and use of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda throughout the Cold War.[...]

In 2016, Manila sought to have US troops removed from its territory...The following year, beginning in May 2017, ISIS terrorists suddenly appeared, overrunning the city of Marawi. The US used the "serendipitous" development to not only insert US military forces into the fighting - the NYT reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/world/asia/philippines-marawi-us-troops.html), but has since used the threat of ISIS' resurgence in the Philippines as a pretext to pressure Manila in maintaining a permanent US military presence in the Southeast Asian ...
state.

US-Saudi backed extremism (https://journal-neo.org/2019/01/03/us-ngo-teams-up-with-gulf-terror-sponsor-to-target-asia/) in another Southeast Asian state - Myanmar - has created a growing conflict in Rakhine state where China is attempting to build another major leg of its OBOR initiative.

In neighboring Thailand - another pivotal OBOR partner - similar US-Saudi led efforts to sow ethnoreligious tensions (https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/12/how-the-west-is-trying-to-recreate-myanmars-crisis-in-thailand/) and create a vector for ISIS-style terrorism are underway.Even in China itself - the threat of ISIS militants returning from Syria and expanding an already looming US-Saudi backed extremist threat in Xinjiang (https://journal-neo.org/2019/02/25/this-map-shows-a-trillion-dollar-reason-why-us-is-backing-terrorism-in-western-china/) - plays into Washington's wider efforts to sabotage OBOR and contain China's regional and global rise.The recent blasts in Sri Lanka and ISIS' now supposed "interest" in the South Asian state follows massive inroads made by China in including the nation in its OBOR initiative. Highways, railways, and ports developed with China's assistance have transformed Sri Lanka into a strategically valuable partner for Beijing, and yet another example to the world of Washington's waning influence not only in Indo-Pacific - but globally.

The US went as far as creating ISIS in the first place in a desperate bid to rescue its failed regime change campaign in Syria. It and its partners in Riyadh are now the prime suspects behind ISIS' coincidental arrival on the shores of a newly established and major OBOR partner.[...]

When terrorism strikes - as in any sort of criminal investigation - the first question that must be asked is "cui bono?" To whose benefit? The US played a central role in deliberately creating ISIS. If ISIS is indeed behind the attack on Sri Lanka, then it is by extension an act of terror carried out by Washington.

Destabilizing Sri Lanka - a critical South Asian partner of Beijing and its OBOR initiative - with terrorism and ethnoreligious conflict, serves only the interests of China's overt global opponent - Washington - as well as elements within India's ruling elite and intelligence agencies.

The US is both arsonist and self-appointed fireman. And until this racket is fully and repeatedly exposed - until after each terrorist attack the US is put forth as the primary suspect and made to pay a high political price for its use of global terrorism - this game of arson-firefighting will continue at the cost of innocent lives, national development, and global peace and stability.

[Dachsie]

Just so everyone can know what the "Christian Zionist: groupies who surround president Trump believe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A6kotuWfD8

14 minute video. See 6:45 and 9:12 in particular.

USA popular TV evangelists "Christian Zionist" rapture cult take on Soleimani assassination and way things are stacking up in the Middle East. (Israel is all-good and Ezekiel 38 and 39 shows us that "God is working on the side of Israel.")

This is cheap trashy bible exegesis.

Traditional Catholic clergy have consistently been a "day late and a dollar short" in teaching us the correct understanding of end times.

[Tumbleweed]

Just so everyone can know what the "Christian Zionist: groupies who surround president Trump believe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A6kotuWfD8

14 minute video. See 6:45 and 9:12 in particular.

USA popular TV evangelists "Christian Zionist" rapture cult take on Soleimani assassination and way things are stacking up in the Middle East. (Israel is all-good and Ezekiel 38 and 39 shows us that "God is working on the side of Israel.")

This is cheap trashy bible exegesis.

Traditional Catholic clergy have consistently been a "day late and a dollar short" in teaching us the correct understanding of end times.

^ These guys don't know what the hell they're talking about. They don't know who the real Israelites are. The "jews" aren't Israelites they are Canaanites/Edomites/The children of the devil.

Don Fox and William Finck discuss Fincks research concerning the end times of Revelation. They discus it in a podcast at this link.


https://christogenea.org/podcasts/beginnings-and-ends-part-4-william-finck-weekend-report-don-fox

[Dachsie]

^ These guys don't know what the hell they're talking about. They don't know who the real Israelites are. The "jews" aren't Israelites they are Canaanites/Edomites/The children of the devil."

I wanted to learn more about this so I knew Rick Adams believes this also so I went to RBN and found I was now able to do free audio downloads there. I downloaded both hours. Very interesting. They used to charge a small monthly fee for downloads of their shows.

[Horn]

How U.S. roll,

1) Murder some high ranking slamic official with pinpoint accuracy,

2) Propose a greater Israel.

3) Threaten any other high ranking slamic officials who questions it.


https://ahvalnews.com/us-turkey/erdogan-us-threatening-me-and-my-intelligence-chief

[Amanda]

Good riddance to the CIA guy...

Phil Giraldi wonders if the CIA guy behind the assassination of Soleimani was killed in this crash (I've seen others say the same):
The Mysterious Michael D’Andrea: Was the C.I.A.’s Iran Mission Center Chief Shot Down?
https://councilforthenationalinterest.org/?p=5194

Who was behind US air force E-11A communications aircraft crash in Afghanistan? (https://southfront.org/us-air-force-e-11a-aircraft-crashed-in-afghanistan-iranian-revenge/)https://www.sott.net/article/428481-Who-was-behind-US-air-force-E-11A-communications-aircraft-crash-in-Afghanistan


The mystery surrounding the crash is another issue. The Taliban was first to report that the incident involved a US military aircraft on January 27 and release videos and photos from the site. The movement claimed that the aircraft was shot down by a rocket and applauded "the bravery and courage" of the "men" that did this.

Reports appeared claiming that Michael D'Andrea, head of the CIA's Iran Mission Centre and one of the persons that orchestrated the assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, died in the E-11A crash, which he supposedly used as a mobile command. This story describes the E-11A crash as Iranian revenge for the actions of the United States. Nonetheless, these claims remain unconfirmed.

The US military did not comment on the supposed death of D'Andrea, but strongly denied reports that the aircraft was shot down by enemy fire. It also announced that on January 28 US forces recovered the remains of two personnel from the site, the flight data recorder and destroyed the remnants of the aircraft.

CIA Middle East chief, Soleimani Killer and Bin Laden Hunter, dead on Jet in Afghanistan. Tasnim & Mirror told after VT & Gospa Newshttps://www.gospanews.net/en/2020/01/28/middle-east-cia-commander-ayatollah-mike-maybe-dead-on-plane-downed-in-afghanistan/


In the late morning, the British media Daily Mail had spread the news with a very in-depth article on the figure of Michael D’Andrea (https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/01/28/vt-cited-by-uk-daily-mail-for-breaking-spy-plane-story-with-russian-help/) before giving space, in the following hours, to an anonymous US military source that would obviously have denied the presence of CIA agents on the crashed flight, of which the Pentagon first it denied even the very fact of the crashed plane and then the downed by the Taliban, without however providing credible versions on the reason for the disaster in the usual strategy of information manipulation.



Sources: Murderer of Soleimani killed with spy plane shot down over Afghanistan (warning/unpleasant photos/original report) Crew said to include CIA, NSA and high ranking military
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/01/29/vt-had-it-first-pentagons-top-spy-plane-downed-by-taliban-crypto-gear-docs-captured-warning-unpleasant-photos/



The downed plane was the mobile CIA command for Michael D’ Andrea, head of operations against Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, America’s most advanced spy platform and mobile command center with all equipment and documents now in enemy hands. VT Damascus: (Russian intelligence sources confirm) It has been reported that (Mike de Andrea) responsible for the assassination file of the martyr Major General Qassem Soleimani was killed in the accident of the American plane that was shot down in Afghanistan. He is the most prominent figure of the CIA intelligence in the region. The CIA top official was killed in the US bomber crash in Afghanistan.

[Dachsie]

Good article of today, Feb 13 2020, on the event happening in Iraq

More Lies on Iran: The White House Just Can’t Help Itself as New Facts Emerge

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/02/13/more-lies-on-iran-the-white-house-just-cant-help-itself-as-new-facts-emerge/


Philip Giraldi
February 13, 2020
© Photo: White House


the only objection I have to the way this article is written is the phrase

"mistakenly shot down a passenger jet." The word, mistakenly, is a departure from objective quality journalism.

will snip begin and end parts of this fairly short, well written article here...

Beginning SNIPPED excerpt...


Admittedly the news cycle in the United States seldom runs longer than twenty-four hours, but that should not serve as an excuse when a major story that contradicts what the Trump Administration has been claiming appears and suddenly dies. The public that actually follows the news might recall a little more than one month ago the United States assassinated a senior Iranian official named Qassem Soleimani. Openly killing someone in the government of a country with which one is not at war is, to say the least, unusual, particularly when the crime is carried out in yet another country with which both the perpetrator and the victim have friendly relations. The justification provided by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, speaking for the administration, was that Soleimani was in Iraq planning an “imminent” mass killing of Americans, for which no additional evidence was provided at that time or since.

It soon emerged that the Iranian was in fact in Baghdad to discuss with the Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi a plan that might lead to the de-escalation of the ongoing conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran, a meeting that the White House apparently knew about may even have approved. If that is so, events as they unfolded suggest that the U.S. government might have encouraged Soleimani to make his trip so he could be set up and killed. Donald Trump later dismissed the lack of any corroboration of the tale of “imminent threat” being peddled by Pompeo, stating that it didn’t really matter as Soleimani was a terrorist who deserved to die.

The incident that started the killing cycle that eventually included Soleimani consisted of a December 27th attack on a U.S. base in Iraq in which four American soldiers and two Iraqis were wounded while one U.S. contractor, an Iraqi-born translator, was killed. The United States immediately blamed Iran, claiming that it had been carried out by an Iranian supported Shi’ite militia called Kata’ib Hezbollah. It provided no evidence for that claim and retaliated by striking a Kata’ib base, killing 25 Iraqis who were in the field fighting the remnants of Islamic State (IS). The militiamen had been incorporated into the Iraqi Army and this disproportionate response led to riots outside the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, which were also blamed on Iran by the U.S. There then followed the assassinations of Soleimani and nine senior Iraqi militia officers. Iran retaliated when it fired missiles at American forces, injuring more than one hundred soldiers, and then mistakenly shot down a passenger jet, killing an additional 176 people. As a consequence due to the killing by the U.S. of 34 Iraqis in the two incidents, the Iraqi Parliament also voted to expel all American troops."""

Ending SNIPPED excerpt...

If the Iraqi investigation of the facts around the December attack on K-1 is reliable, the Donald Trump administration’s reckless actions in Iraq in late December and early January cannot be justified. Worse still, it would appear that the White House was looking for an excuse to attack and kill a senior Iranian official to send some kind of message, a provocation that could easily have resulted in a war that would benefit no one. To be sure, the Trump administration has lied about developments in the Middle East so many times that it can no longer be trusted. Unfortunately, demanding any accountability from the Trump team would require a Congress that is willing to shoulder its responsibility for truth in government backed up by a media that is willing to take on an administration that regularly punishes anyone or any entity that dares to challenge it. That is the unfortunate reality in America today.