Banksters get their war

[midnight rambler]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862453/Multiple-rockets-hit-Taji-military-base-Iraq-American-British-troops-based.html

[Amanda]

Yes, All Wars are Bankers Wars:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlunSNY5B48


So, my question is: was Trump playing us all along (with talk about bringing the troops home, and no more wasted $$$ on these wars) or is this because of the Jew Coup, and how the jews have a knife to his neck in the form of impeachment. I know he resisted three traps they set for him to attack Iran, but maybe that was just to build up his image of "see,he really doesn't want war"...Curious to know other's thoughts.

I've posted Mike Whitney, who clearly outlines how Trump's foreign policy being what it was on the campaign trail ("we will learn from foreign policy mistakes of the past...") to being completely in lock step with the establishment--he seems to think Trump changed as a way to get rid of Mueller:

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/tit-for-tat-why-did-mueller-let-trump-off-the-hook/

[mamboni]

The TPTB have their backs to the wall because the US Treasuries are imploding and international confidence in the US dollar is now cracking. Foreigners have deserted the US Treasury market just as government deficits are exploding higher with no end in sight. The FED is buying all paper "assets" in sight (REPO is spilling over into POMO) trying to prevent an implosion of the fiat assets (stocks, bonds, corporate debt, credit markets). Also, the shale oil industry is a black hole sucking liquidity out of the banking system. A war is the last desperate act of TPTB to maintain dollar relevancy and prop up oil prices to alleviate the strain from the shale oil debacle. Unfortunately, Iran is taking the bait and escalating, giving the US justification to escalate in response. The bankers see war as a way to create credit demand, dollar flows and debt creation. These forces counteract the deadly effects of monetary velocity and interest rates simultaneously going to zero. Convexity in the bond market is causing prices to go up exponentially as we approach zero yields in the US Treasuries. The FED must create more and more dollars to satisfy this convexity and prevent the bond prices from imploding. This is why gold is rallying higher and higher. The gold shorts are being overrun by the vast dollar flows that are spilling over in to the physically limited gold market. Central banks are buying gold and selling US treasuries, forcing the FED into a slow motion explosion of debt monetization. The central bankers understand that the only way out of this debt doom feedback loop is a reset to gold. But the TPTB, the shadow government, will start WWIII and blow up the paper money system before they surrender power to a gold-based honest money paradigm. We must pray that cooler minds prevail and prevent an excalation into a hot war that could result in massive deaths and destruction.

[Amanda]

The TPTB have their backs to the wall because the US Treasuries are imploding and international confidence in the US dollar is now cracking. Foreigners have deserted the US Treasury market just as government deficits are exploding higher with no end in sight. The FED is buying all paper "assets" in sight (REPO is spilling over into POMO) trying to prevent an implosion of the fiat assets (stocks, bonds, corporate debt, credit markets). Also, the shale oil industry is a black hole sucking liquidity out of the banking system. A war is the last desperate act of TPTB to maintain dollar relevancy and prop up oil prices to alleviate the strain from the shale oil debacle. Unfortunately, Iran is taking the bait and escalating, giving the US justification to escalate in response. The bankers see war as a way to create credit demand, dollar flows and debt creation. These forces counteract the deadly effects of monetary velocity and interest rates simultaneously going to zero. Convexity in the bond market is causing prices to go up exponentially as we approach zero yields in the US Treasuries. The FED must create more and more dollars to satisfy this convexity and prevent the bond prices from imploding. This is why gold is rallying higher and higher. The gold shorts are being overrun by the vast dollar flows that are spilling over in to the physically limited gold market. Central banks are buying gold and selling US treasuries, forcing the FED into a slow motion explosion of debt monetization. The central bankers understand that the only way out of this debt doom feedback loop is a reset to gold. But the TPTB, the shadow government, will start WWIII and blow up the paper money system before they surrender power to a gold-based honest money paradigm. We must pray that cooler minds prevail and prevent an excalation into a hot war that could result in massive deaths and destruction.


Thanks for this. Much of this is just over my head, though I try to follow. I watched a couple of youtubes from Greg Mannarino who seemed to be saying the same thing and sounding the alarm bells (posted those on the other Soleimani thread). Also saw some comments over at zerohedge saying the same thing and talking about REPO

[Jewboo]

Yes, All Wars are Bankers Wars:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwJ49nJNv-s

Nah. Bankers have enough problems domestically. HALF A MILLION AMERICANS are now homeless according to Tucker in the above video. Banks are more concerned about that homeless bum literally shitting on their downtown doorstep..............not Iran.

(((Trumpstein's Administration))) has been waging an economic war against Iran for over three years and it finally went hot. It's all about Israel. (https://static.timesofisrael.com/jewishstanddev/uploads/2016/03/JW03-F-jta-trump-parade-0325.jpg)

[mamboni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwJ49nJNv-s

Nah. Bankers have enough problems domestically. HALF A MILLION AMERICANS are now homeless according to Tucker in the above video. Banks are more concerned about that homeless bum literally shitting on their downtown doorstep..............not Iran.

(((Trumpstein's Administration))) has been waging an economic war against Iran for over three years and it finally went hot. It's all about Israel. (https://static.timesofisrael.com/jewishstanddev/uploads/2016/03/JW03-F-jta-trump-parade-0325.jpg)

It's all about Israel. (https://static.timesofisrael.com/jewishstanddev/uploads/2016/03/JW03-F-jta-trump-parade-0325.jpg) Indeed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqPy17h-rrE

[C.Martel]

Boeing 737 Carrying 180 People Crashes in Iran, State Media Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-08/boeing-737-passenger-jet-crashes-in-iran-due-to-technical-issue

[Ares]

The TPTB have their backs to the wall because the US Treasuries are imploding and international confidence in the US dollar is now cracking. Foreigners have deserted the US Treasury market just as government deficits are exploding higher with no end in sight. The FED is buying all paper "assets" in sight (REPO is spilling over into POMO) trying to prevent an implosion of the fiat assets (stocks, bonds, corporate debt, credit markets). Also, the shale oil industry is a black hole sucking liquidity out of the banking system. A war is the last desperate act of TPTB to maintain dollar relevancy and prop up oil prices to alleviate the strain from the shale oil debacle. Unfortunately, Iran is taking the bait and escalating, giving the US justification to escalate in response. The bankers see war as a way to create credit demand, dollar flows and debt creation. These forces counteract the deadly effects of monetary velocity and interest rates simultaneously going to zero. Convexity in the bond market is causing prices to go up exponentially as we approach zero yields in the US Treasuries. The FED must create more and more dollars to satisfy this convexity and prevent the bond prices from imploding. This is why gold is rallying higher and higher. The gold shorts are being overrun by the vast dollar flows that are spilling over in to the physically limited gold market. Central banks are buying gold and selling US treasuries, forcing the FED into a slow motion explosion of debt monetization. The central bankers understand that the only way out of this debt doom feedback loop is a reset to gold. But the TPTB, the shadow government, will start WWIII and blow up the paper money system before they surrender power to a gold-based honest money paradigm. We must pray that cooler minds prevail and prevent an excalation into a hot war that could result in massive deaths and destruction.

Spot on, that's what I see as well. Especially with the FED pumping billions of USD into the repo market. Some of you guys will remember the 2007/2008 crisis and the repo market wasn't the first to feel the affects, it was later when subprime (which started the whole thing) started going belly up. This time it's starting in repo, which is much much worse as Repo is a quasi shadow banking instrument used for short term loan by commercial banks.

The reason this is such a concern this time, is what was rarely discussed and never even touched in the last crisis was the derivatives market which commercial banks leverage exclusively in and it is in the TRILLIONS. The counter party risk in the derivatives market is absolutely insane, and if commercial banks which are leveraged to the hilt are having problems in repo forcing the FED to pump in billions to cover commercial short term loans, then the derivatives bomb is already set to explode. The only question is how long is the fuse?

[mamboni]

This video by Mr. Gammon is interesting and pertinent. It explains how debts have exploded higher while the US dollar has strengthened. A vicious cycle developed where foreigners responded to QE by borrowing more and more dollars reasoning that their debts would be inflated away. But it is not that simple. A self feeding loop developed wherein short term dollar denominated debts must be rolled over into a rising dollar creating greater dollar demand and pushing the dollar higher on FOREX. The FED must monetize more and more debt to keep interest rates from rising and debt defaults. Artificially low interest rates incentivize more borrowing and on and on we go. Much of these dollars are coming back to the US domestic economy causing demand inflation while the dollar strengthens, a counterintuitive phenomenon vis-a-vis the inflation of the 1970s. I'm reminded of what Jim Willie has said for years: the dollar will rise and rise and rise and then disappear. Now I think I understand what he was saying. The US dollar and debt levels will rise simultaneously until a critical mass is reached. When that happens, the international community will have to reset the dollar to arrest this debt bubble from exploding or imploding and stabilize the FOREX markets. They will have to reset to the only asset left with sufficient unencumbered collateral to underpin the new monetary order: GOLD!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7-eNIIJa_0&list=UUpvyOqtEc86X8w8_Se0t4-w

[vacuum]

I'm just not seeing a financial collapse right now, mainly because of all our new trade deals. We are starting to move manufacturing back into the US. We are starting to make things again. This means that the bleeding due to trade deficit is slowing.

People aren't investing over seas so much anymore. People, including foreigners, are going to put their money in the US. They have to, because manufacturing is moving back to the US and along with it, investment. The rest of the world is shit. China is a shitty place to put your money. Europe is a shitty place to put your money. South America is a shitty place to put your money. Whats left? Not too many places.

[vacuum]

Looks like the war is canceled.

Scott Adams predicted a lot of it and I think he really has a good grasp of whats going on. If interested, you can watch him here:

https://www.pscp.tv/ScottAdamsSays

[mamboni]

This story from ZeroHedge is absolutely explosive and I for one believe it - it rings of truth and makes perfect sense. And the "third party" goading Trump on can be none other than Israel. Fuckers need to be evicted off earth for all our sakes:


The Deeper Story Behind The Assassination Of Soleimani





Authored by Federico Pieraccini via The Strategic Culture Foundation, (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/01/08/the-deeper-story-behind-the-assassination-of-soleimani/)
Days after the assassination of General Qasem Soleimani, new and important information is coming to light from a speech given by the Iraqi prime minister. The story behind Soleimani’s assassination seems to go much deeper than what has thus far been reported, involving Saudi Arabia and China as well the US dollar’s role as the global reserve currency.


The Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, has revealed details of his interactions with Trump in the weeks leading up to Soleimani’s assassination in a speech to the Iraqi parliament. He tried to explain several times on live television how Washington had been browbeating him and other Iraqi members of parliament to toe the American line, even threatening to engage in false-flag sniper shootings of both protesters and security personnel in order to inflame the situation, recalling similar modi operandi seen in Cairo in 2009, Libya in 2011, and Maidan in 2014. The purpose of such cynicism was to throw Iraq into chaos.






Here is the reconstruction of the story:
[Speaker of the Council of Representatives of Iraq] Halbousi attended the parliamentary session while almost none of the Sunni members did. This was because the Americans had learned that Abdul-Mehdi was planning to reveal sensitive secrets in the session and sent Halbousi to prevent this. Halbousi cut Abdul-Mehdi off at the commencement of his speech and then asked for the live airing of the session to be stopped. After this, Halbousi together with other members, sat next to Abdul-Mehdi, speaking openly with him but without it being recorded. This is what was discussed in that session that was not broadcast:

Abdul-Mehdi spoke angrily about how the Americans had ruined the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues, which Abdul-Mehdi refused.


The complete (https://twitter.com/Ahmedzehzeeh222/status/1214282537092165633) (translated) words of Abdul-Mahdi’s speech to parliament:

This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.
Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.

I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.
After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.


Nobody imagined that the threat was to be applied to General Soleimani, but it was difficult for Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi to reveal the weekslong backstory behind the terrorist attack.

I was supposed to meet him [Soleimani] later in the morning when he was killed. He came to deliver a message from Iran in response to the message we had delivered to the Iranians from the Saudis.


We can surmise, judging by Saudi Arabia’s reaction (https://twitter.com/AdelAljubeir/status/1213232867377123329), that some kind of negotiation was going on between Tehran and Riyadh:

The Kingdom’s statement regarding the events in Iraq stresses the Kingdom’s view of the importance of de-escalation to save the countries of the region and their people from the risks of any escalation.


Above all, the Saudi Royal family (http://saudigazette.com.sa/article/586224) wanted to let people know immediately that they had not been informed of the US operation:

The kingdom of Saudi Arabia was not consulted regarding the US strike. In light of the rapid developments, the Kingdom stresses the importance of exercising restraint to guard against all acts that may lead to escalation, with severe consequences.


And to emphasize his reluctance for war, Mohammad bin Salman sent (https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/01/persian-gulf-arab-states-to-us-do-not-drag-us-into-another-war/) a delegation to the United States. Liz Sly (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-05/saudi-deputy-defense-minister-to-visit-washington-london-paper), the Washington Post Beirut bureau chief, tweated:

Saudi Arabia is sending a delegation to Washington to urge restraint with Iran on behalf of [Persian] Gulf states. The message will be: ‘Please spare us the pain of going through another war’.


What clearly emerges is that the success of the operation against Soleimani had nothing to do with the intelligence gathering of the US or Israel. It was known to all and sundry that Soleimani was heading to Baghdad in a diplomatic capacity that acknowledged Iraq’s efforts to mediate a solution to the regional crisis with Saudi Arabia.

It would seem that the Saudis, Iranians and Iraqis were well on the way towards averting a regional conflict involving Syria, Iraq and Yemen. Riyadh’s reaction to the American strike evinced no public joy or celebration. Qatar, while not seeing eye to eye with Riyadh on many issues, also immediately expressed solidarity with Tehran, hosting a meeting at a senior government level with Mohammad Zarif Jarif, the Iranian foreign minister. Even Turkey (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/01/08/how-congress-can-stop-trumps-iran-war/) and Egypt (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=_t&sl=it&tl=en&u=https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/2/79304/Egypt-calls-for-preventing-escalation-after-killing-of-IRGC-leader), when commenting on the asassination, employed moderating language.

This could reflect a fear of being on the receiving end of Iran’s retaliation. Qatar, the country from which the drone that killed Soleimani took off, is only a stone’s throw away from Iran, situated on the other side of the Strait of Hormuz. Riyadh and Tel Aviv, Tehran’s regional enemies, both know that a military conflict with Iran would mean the end of the Saudi royal family.
When the words of the Iraqi prime minister are linked back to the geopolitical and energy agreements in the region, then the worrying picture starts to emerge of a desperate US lashing out at a world turning its back on a unipolar world order in favor of the emerging multipolar about which I have long written (https://www.mondialisation.ca/transition-to-multipolar-world-only-barrier-to-washingtons-domination/5527613).

The US, now considering itself a net energy exporter as a result of the shale-oil revolution (on which the jury is still out), no longer needs to import oil from the Middle East. However, this does not mean that oil can now be traded in any other currency other than the US dollar.

The petrodollar is what ensures that the US dollar retains its status as the global reserve currency, granting the US a monopolistic position from which it derives enormous benefits from playing the role of regional hegemon.
This privileged position of holding the global reserve currency also ensures that the US can easily fund its war machine by virtue of the fact that much of the world is obliged to buy its treasury bonds that it is simply able to conjure out of thin air. To threaten this comfortable arrangement is to threaten Washington’s global power.

Even so, the geopolitical and economic trend is inexorably towards a multipolar world order, with China increasingly playing a leading role, especially in the Middle East and South America.
Venezuela, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Qatar and Saudi Arabia together make up the overwhelming majority of oil and gas reserves in the world. The first three have an elevated relationship with Beijing and are very much in the multipolar camp, something that China and Russia are keen to further consolidate in order to ensure the future growth for the Eurasian supercontinent without war and conflict.

Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is pro-US but could gravitate towards the Sino-Russian camp both militarily and in terms of energy. The same process is going on with Iraq and Qatar thanks to Washington’s numerous strategic errors in the region starting from Iraq in 2003, Libya in 2011 and Syria and Yemen in recent years.

The agreement between Iraq and China is a prime example of how Beijing intends to use the Iraq-Iran-Syria troika to revive the Middle East and and link it to the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative.
While Doha and Riyadh would be the first to suffer economically from such an agreement, Beijing’s economic power is such that, with its win-win approach, there is room for everyone.
Saudi Arabia provides China with most of its oil and Qatar, together with the Russian Federation, supply China with most of its LNG needs, which lines up with Xi Jinping’s 2030 vision that aims to greatly reduce polluting emissions.


The US is absent in this picture, with little ability to influence events or offer any appealing economic alternatives.
Washington would like to prevent any Eurasian integration by unleashing chaos and destruction in the region, and killing Soleimani served this purpose. The US cannot contemplate the idea of the dollar losing its status as the global reserve currency. Trump is engaging in a desperate gamble that could have disastrous consequences.

The region, in a worst-case scenario, could be engulfed in a devastating war involving multiple countries. Oil refineries could be destroyed all across the region, a quarter of the world’s oil transit could be blocked, oil prices would skyrocket ($200-$300 a barrel) and dozens of countries would be plunged into a global financial crisis. The blame would be laid squarely at Trump’s feet, ending his chances for re-election.

To try and keep everyone in line, Washington is left to resort to terrorism, lies and unspecified threats of visiting destruction on friends and enemies alike.

Trump has evidently been convinced by someone that the US can do without the Middle East, that it can do without allies in the region, and that nobody would ever dare to sell oil in any other currency than the US dollar.
Soleimani’s death is the result of a convergence of US and Israeli interests. With no other way of halting Eurasian integration, Washington can only throw the region into chaos by targeting countries like Iran, Iraq and Syria that are central to the Eurasian project. While Israel has never had the ability or audacity to carry out such an assassination itself, the importance of the Israel Lobby to Trump’s electoral success would have influenced his decision, all the more so in an election year .
Trump believed his drone attack could solve all his problems by frightening his opponents, winning the support of his voters (by equating Soleimani’s assassination to Osama bin Laden’s), and sending a warning to Arab countries of the dangers of deepening their ties with China.

The assassination of Soleimani is the US lashing out at its steady loss of influence in the region. The Iraqi attempt to mediate a lasting peace between Iran and Saudi Arabia has been scuppered by the US and Israel’s determination to prevent peace in the region and instead increase chaos and instability.

Washington has not achieved its hegemonic status through a preference for diplomacy and calm dialogue, and Trump has no intention of departing from this approach.
Washington’s friends and enemies alike must acknowledge this reality and implement the countermeasures necessary to contain the madness.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/deeper-story-behind-assassination-soleimani

[C.Martel]

Wonder why trump backed off of shock and awe on Iran. Twice, after the drone got shot down and after Iraqi bases got hit:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?101633-Top-Izzy-expert-US-can-t-defeat-Iran-in-conventional-war&p=958888&viewfull=1#post958888

[vacuum]

The Deeper Story Behind The Assassination Of Soleimani

Consider this alternate point of view

Iran hates Trump because Trump supports Israel. Hence, Iran would like Trump to lose in 2020.

The best way that Iran has to accomplish this is turn public sentiment against him. This can easily be done and was already started.

Look at what happened: Some militia people fired rockets into a base, and killed an American and wounded four more. The US responded by bombing militia targets that were 300 miles away, killing Iraqis who were part of the militia and provoking outrage in the US and Iraq.

A bunch of protesters then stormed the embassy in Iraq, burned down our reception building, and humiliated us. People were already calling Trump inept and weak.

This was only the 2020 kick off. Soleimani was starting a campaign to put Trump in a no-win situation by causing public outrage, and obviously he would have had the full backing of the media in this.

Honestly it was a solid plan and would have significantly damaged Trump. The only thing nobody counted on is what Trump's response was.

Trying to fight this asymmetric battle could have cost Trump the election. If he pulled out of Iraq he would have looked weak. If he started bombing Iraqi militias he would have looked weak and like a terrorist.

I think we all agree that we shouldn't be in Iraq, but since we are at the moment we can't allow this shit to go on. As the most powerful nation, we can't crawl away because we are too scared to do anything to stop people from attacking us.

Really sit down for a minute, think about 2020, think about the position in Iraq, and consider what other options Trump actually had.

[mamboni]

Consider this alternate point of view

Iran hates Trump because Trump supports Israel. Hence, Iran would like Trump to lose in 2020.

The best way that Iran has to accomplish this is turn public sentiment against him. This can easily be done and was already started.

Look at what happened: Some militia people fired rockets into a base, and killed an American and wounded four more. The US responded by bombing militia targets that were 300 miles away, killing Iraqis who were part of the militia and provoking outrage in the US and Iraq.

A bunch of protesters then stormed the embassy in Iraq, burned down our reception building, and humiliated us. People were already calling Trump inept and weak.

This was only the 2020 kick off. Soleimani was starting a campaign to put Trump in a no-win situation by causing public outrage, and obviously he would have had the full backing of the media in this.

Honestly it was a solid plan and would have significantly damaged Trump. The only thing nobody counted on is what Trump's response was.

Trying to fight this asymmetric battle could have cost Trump the election. If he pulled out of Iraq he would have looked weak. If he started bombing Iraqi militias he would have looked weak and like a terrorist.

I think we all agree that we shouldn't be in Iraq, but since we are at the moment we can't allow this shit to go on. As the most powerful nation, we can't crawl away because we are too scared to do anything to stop people from attacking us.

Really sit down for a minute, think about 2020, think about the position in Iraq, and consider what other options Trump actually had.4-D chess indeed. I will consider your points.

[Amanda]

Mamboni- thanks for posting this one!!



The Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, has revealed details of his interactions with Trump in the weeks leading up to Soleimani’s assassination in a speech to the Iraqi parliament. He tried to explain several times on live television how Washington had been browbeating him and other Iraqi members of parliament to toe the American line, even threatening to engage in false-flag sniper shootings of both protesters and security personnel in order to inflame the situation, recalling similar modi operandi seen in Cairo in 2009, Libya in 2011, and Maidan in 2014. The purpose of such cynicism was to throw Iraq into chaos.



Here is the reconstruction of the story:
[Speaker of the Council of Representatives of Iraq] Halbousi attended the parliamentary session while almost none of the Sunni members did. This was because the Americans had learned that Abdul-Mehdi was planning to reveal sensitive secrets in the session and sent Halbousi to prevent this. Halbousi cut Abdul-Mehdi off at the commencement of his speech and then asked for the live airing of the session to be stopped. After this, Halbousi together with other members, sat next to Abdul-Mehdi, speaking openly with him but without it being recorded. This is what was discussed in that session that was not broadcast:

Abdul-Mehdi spoke angrily about how the Americans had ruined the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues, which Abdul-Mehdi refused.

The complete (https://twitter.com/Ahmedzehzeeh222/status/1214282537092165633) (translated) words of Abdul-Mahdi’s speech to parliament:

This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.
Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.

I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.
After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.


Nobody imagined that the threat was to be applied to General Soleimani, but it was difficult for Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi to reveal the weekslong backstory behind the terrorist attack.

So, it's quite obvious Trump is nothing but a murderous thug!!!!!! I'm totally done with the guy (but obviously NOT going to support the lefty loons).

So, was this who Trump was all along?? Were we played, or was he flipped. This is definitely NOT the foreign policy he campaigned on!!

Here's a quote from candidate Trump:

“We will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past…We will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments…. Our goal is stability not chaos, because we want to rebuild our country [the United States]… We will partner with any nation that is willing to join us in the effort to defeat ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism …In our dealings with other countries, we will seek shared interests wherever possible and pursue a new era of peace, understanding, and good will.”

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I've posted this elsewhere, but will post again, since I think this guy makes an excellent case for the idea that Trump changed his foreign policy to make the Mueller investigation go away. He outlines all the changes in foreign policy that have been overlooked by the alternative/pro-Trump media.

Tit for Tat? Why Did Mueller Let Trump Off the Hook?
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/tit-for-tat-why-did-mueller-let-trump-off-the-hook/

This also reminds me of that first photo of Trump when he met with the Kenyan--rense had it posted and Trump had such a strange expression on his face (almost like he was spooked or threatened)--it reminded me of that Bill Hicks segment where he talks about how he imagines that after our presidents are elected, they get called into a room with a bunch of guys smoking cigars, and then they drop a screen and play a video of JFK getting his head blown off and then say "any questions??"

+++++++

On this 3D, 4D, 666D chess, honestly, it just seems like a bunch of nonsense from people in denial who can't face the reality that Trump is just another Neo-Con puppet. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now it's quite obvious he's completely under control and working for the other side. Whenever Trump does something obviously wrong, like hire Haspel and a bunch of freaking Neocons, I always see Trump defenders say "Oh, no, it's just 3D chess, he's hiring these people, so its gets everyone talking about how bad they are"--what a load of BS. People are in denial and refuse to see things have CHANGED. TRUMP HAS CHANGED AND HIS FOREIGN POLICY HAS CHANGED--now it's just more of the same.

I personally think that with impeachment hanging over his head, they have finally got to him (totally cornered and under control). Nancy was in such a rush with that, and I think it was all part of the plan. One they got that passed in the House, it was basically a knife to his throat, and then Pompeo and Netanyahu set the trap, and he was forced to act (with impeachment over his head, and those NeoCon senators, like Rubio, and Graham whispering in his ear that if he doesn't "defend" America against Iran, then maybe they can't support him in the senate trial). And by trap, I mean the ridiculous story that this whole thing was kicked off by the supposed death of a US contractor (like the US gives a crap about some random dead guy, in this case apparently a 33yr old Iraqi). I don't even believe this story--I think they just made it all up, to get things going--jews are masters of game theory. So then Trump does the air strikes in response, kills Iraqis, then they get mad and protest at the Embassy (why the hell wouldn't they--they are sick of the murderous US), and the the lying US and Trump blame Iran and kill Soleimani (the guy the Isarelis have been desperate to kill, since he was most responsible for defeating ISIS and thwarting their efforts in Syria).

[Amanda]

Good one here too:

Trumpists who attacked the 'Deep State' now instinctively trust US intelligence agencies about Soleimani strike (https://reason.com/2020/01/07/trump-soleimani-strike-iran-intelligence-conservatives-war/)
https://www.sott.net/article/427055-Trumpists-who-attacked-the-Deep-State-now-instinctively-trust-US-intelligence-agencies-about-Soleimani-strike

[Ares]

Mamboni- thanks for posting this one!!



So, it's quite obvious Trump is nothing but a murderous thug!!!!!! I'm totally done with the guy (but obviously NOT going to support the lefty loons).

So, was this who Trump was all along?? Were we played, or was he flipped. This is definitely NOT the foreign policy he campaigned on!!

Here's a quote from candidate Trump:

“We will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past…We will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments…. Our goal is stability not chaos, because we want to rebuild our country [the United States]… We will partner with any nation that is willing to join us in the effort to defeat ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism …In our dealings with other countries, we will seek shared interests wherever possible and pursue a new era of peace, understanding, and good will.”

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I've posted this elsewhere, but will post again, since I think this guy makes an excellent case for the idea that Trump changed his foreign policy to make the Mueller investigation go away. He outlines all the changes in foreign policy that have been overlooked by the alternative/pro-Trump media.

Tit for Tat? Why Did Mueller Let Trump Off the Hook?
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/tit-for-tat-why-did-mueller-let-trump-off-the-hook/

This also reminds me of that first photo of Trump when he met with the Kenyan--rense had it posted and Trump had such a strange expression on his face (almost like he was spooked or threatened)--it reminded me of that Bill Hicks segment where he talks about how he imagines that after our presidents are elected, they get called into a room with a bunch of guys smoking cigars, and then they drop a screen and play a video of JFK getting his head blown off and then say "any questions??"

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On this 3D, 4D, 666D chess, honestly, it just seems like a bunch of nonsense from people in denial who can't face the reality that Trump is just another Neo-Con puppet. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now it's quite obvious he's completely under control and working for the other side. Whenever Trump does something obviously wrong, like hire Haspel and a bunch of freaking Neocons, I always see Trump defenders say "Oh, no, it's just 3D chess, he's hiring these people, so its gets everyone talking about how bad they are"--what a load of BS. People are in denial and refuse to see things have CHANGED. TRUMP HAS CHANGED AND HIS FOREIGN POLICY HAS CHANGED--now it's just more of the same.

I personally think that with impeachment hanging over his head, they have finally got to him (totally cornered and under control). Nancy was in such a rush with that, and I think it was all part of the plan. One they got that passed in the House, it was basically a knife to his throat, and then Pompeo and Netanyahu set the trap, and he was forced to act (with impeachment over his head, and those NeoCon senators, like Rubio, and Graham whispering in his ear that if he doesn't "defend" America against Iran, then maybe they can't support him in the senate trial). And by trap, I mean the ridiculous story that this whole thing was kicked off by the supposed death of a US contractor (like the US gives a crap about some random dead guy, in this case apparently a 33yr old Iraqi). I don't even believe this story--I think they just made it all up, to get things going--jews are masters of game theory. So then Trump does the air strikes in response, kills Iraqis, then they get mad and protest at the Embassy (why the hell wouldn't they--they are sick of the murderous US), and the the lying US and Trump blame Iran and kill Soleimani (the guy the Isarelis have been desperate to kill, since he was most responsible for defeating ISIS and thwarting their efforts in Syria).






You didn't think America having the Petrodollar get wiped out wasn't going to do at least something to keep it's free lunch going did you?

[old steel]

War war war, bla bla bla.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57-j9e2Wyg8

[Jewboo]

The complete (https://twitter.com/Ahmedzehzeeh222/status/1214282537092165633) (translated) words of Abdul-Mahdi’s speech to parliament:

This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.
Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.

I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.
After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.


Nobody imagined that the threat was to be applied to General Soleimani, but it was difficult for Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi to reveal the weekslong backstory behind the terrorist attack.



This is NOT believable. everybody knows from the Ukrainegate thingie that many government people routinely listen in on all Trump phone calls.

:o

[Amanda]

This is NOT believable. everybody knows from the Ukrainegate thingie that many government people routinely listen in on all Trump phone calls.

:o

I actually thought it was COMPLETELY believable---that's kind of how the US operates. Of course, many govt people listen to the calls and this is the kind of crap that I'm sure they are completely OK with. This is what the US does--completely gangster, tyrannical, lawless bullying. I figured nobody reported the call b/c it was in line with establishment policy.