freeze dried food??

[Amanda]

Okay, I've heard for years that I should get some freeze dried food, but I never did....Just curious if you have stockpiled this or have thoughts or recommendations on this--Thanks!

[woodman]

Light weight, easy to store, lasts a long time, probably high in nutrients. Expensive. Much easier to store dry bulk foods like flour, rice, beans, potato flakes, lard, oil, etc.

[Amanda]

yes, seems outrageously priced and gross....

Do those dried bulk foods (flour, rice, beans, potato flakes, lard, oil) all have long enough shelf life?

[Jewboo]

...Just curious if you have stockpiled this or have thoughts or recommendations on this--Thanks



This is currently the most woke and LUCID thread here at GSUS now. Gold and silver coins are just plain GIM1 silly now in 2020 while my local Boise, Idaho (of all places) Albertson's (https://dynl.mktgcdn.com/p/BiJgf4sI6Pmh-GNs6xiMsAJjIxPhV1zUHYXeMrpIoEU/1500x1000.jpg) is currently cleaned out of frozen veggies, toilet paper, basic cleaning supplies etc. In my personal experience, freeze dried foods are the worst possible PREP choice. Hunt down the basic Mormon basics instead (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/food-storage?lang=eng)...

:)

[woodman]

In my personal experience,freeze dried foods are the worst possible PREP choice. Hunt down the basic Mormon basics instead (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/food-storage?lang=eng)...

:)
The Mormons sell very tasty and fairly cheap preps in #10 cans. They will last longer than the prepper.

[Amanda]

This is currently the most woke and LUCID thread here at GSUS now. Gold and silver coins are just plain GIM1 silly now in 2020 while my local Boise, Idaho (of all places) Albertson's (https://dynl.mktgcdn.com/p/BiJgf4sI6Pmh-GNs6xiMsAJjIxPhV1zUHYXeMrpIoEU/1500x1000.jpg) is currently cleaned out of frozen veggies, toilet paper, basic cleaning supplies etc. In my personal experience, freeze dried foods are the worst possible PREP choice. Hunt down the basic Mormon basics instead (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/food-storage?lang=eng)...

:)

Oh, wow, thanks for this--I've been kicking myself all day, thinking I should have gotten the freeze dried food.

[osoab]

Oh, wow, thanks for this--I've been kicking myself all day, thinking I should have gotten the freeze dried food.

You will have a hard time finding any.

[Jewboo]

Oh, wow, thanks for this--I've been kicking myself all day, thinking I should have gotten the freeze dried food.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6mnAowINw

You are obviously a very high IQ woman Amanda. Don't be shy in immediately contacting your local Mormon bishop's office and asking for gentile Food Storage sources. I lived in Salt Lake City for awhile and they have this stuff down to a science. They regularly sell intelligent food storage products to us goyim without getting all Book Of Mormon...lol.

:)

[Tumbleweed]

My ex-wife was mormon and I've still got her mormon food preps stored here somewhere. :)

[JDRock]

still the #1 staple to keep you alive is white rice. cheap and a shelf life of decades.

[Half Sense]

Freeze dried is good if your neighbors are starving. Just add hot water; no smoke or cooking smells.

[Jewboo]

still the #1 staple to keep you alive is white rice. cheap and a shelf life of decades.

The process that produces brown rice removes only the outermost layer, the hull, of the rice kernel and is the least damaging to its nutritional value. The complete milling and polishing that converts brown rice into white rice destroys 67% of the vitamin B3, 80% of the vitamin B1, 90% of the vitamin B6, half of the manganese, half of the phosphorus, 60% of the iron, and all of the dietary fiber and essential fatty acids.

:rolleyes:

[vacuum]

I have some freeze dried food.

If you grab it on deal, its not anymore expensive than eating out. Its actually cheaper.

For example, one Mountain House #10 can of food is equal to four meals. On deal, you get such a can for $17 to $20. If you eat lunch at work every day and decide to eat Mountain House, thats $5 per day for lunch. Not to bad.

Mountain House is the ONLY brand to buy, period. Every time I've tried other brands, it was a major disappointment and waste of money. Mountain House on the other hand is quality food, basically as good as eating at a restaurant.

Mountain House completely sold out on amazon right now, so don't even bother trying.

If you want to go the Mountain House route in the future, here are some tips I have:

1) Get a couple cases of these pint-and-half jars (locally is cheaper like walmart)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B80TJLW
one of those will fit 1 bag and 4 of those will fit 1 can. You can store them in there, and also its great for adding the hot water, putting a lid on, and mixing around until its ready

2) Get a long spoon. This makes it easy to eat out of a bag or one of those jars. The bags are pretty tall.
Here's what I use:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J1BV01C

3) Get a large funnel so you can pour your cans into the jars without making a huge mess. This is the biggest mouth one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P81DNM5

4) You can buy some oxygen packets and then the jar will keep for a really long time
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0WOHPC
put the unused oxygen packets in a small mason jar and seal it. (as small as possible)

5) A vacuum sealed thermos that holds 2 cups of water is a perfect companion to your mason jar. The mason jar + hot water is a full meal. Hot water can stay hot for 10+ hrs.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YB3JP4

6) A jar lifter can grab a jar of boiling water out of the microwave. You can pour the hot water jar into your food jar. This kit has a jar lifter and is just a little more expensive but has a bunch of other stuff
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000DDVMH

7) Plastic mason jar lids allow you to microwave a mason jar to heat water. Can't put a metal lid in the microwave
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076VTY6XS

8) I got a couple of these safety can openers. They allow you to open a can and then re-seal the can with its original steel lid. Good for cans of butter, cans of cheese, or mountain house cans. I haven't tried it on mountain house yet.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I7GST2
Those can openers are great, but aren't the most reliable design over time. Hence why I got two.

9) I haven't tried this, but you can probably buy some instant rice as well as freeze dried veggies, and mix them into your mountain house meal dry. Then when you add hot water, it will have more calories and stretch further. And still be a really good meal.

10) Get a small packable pot to boil water and small alcohol stove. This will allow you to eat your food during an emergency.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CYA26BU
https://www.flatcatgear.com/shop/iso-25-stove/

Remember, whenever you eat out, or buy expensive groceries, you could have been buying mountain house instead.

1 mountain house can = 1 day you are well fed

But like I said, don't even bother looking right now. Wait until next year.

[JDRock]

The process that produces brown rice removes only the outermost layer, the hull, of the rice kernel and is the least damaging to its nutritional value. The complete milling and polishing that converts brown rice into white rice destroys 67% of the vitamin B3, 80% of the vitamin B1, 90% of the vitamin B6, half of the manganese, half of the phosphorus, 60% of the iron, and all of the dietary fiber and essential fatty acids.

:rolleyes: brown rice has a short shelf life, white rice is indefinite. the GIs in nam tried to destroy the vietcongs stash and couldnt do it, short of burning it. Suppliments my man..

[Shami-Amourae]

Okay, I've heard for years that I should get some freeze dried food, but I never did....Just curious if you have stockpiled this or have thoughts or recommendations on this--Thanks!

Buy bulk beans on Amazon. There's plenty still in stock. Try buying the stuff thats in 25lb bags too. It's actually a good deal since the other stuff is generally a ripoff:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dried+beans+25+lbs&rh=n%3A16322001&ref=nb_sb_noss (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dried+beans&rh=n%3A16310101%2Cn%3A16322001&dc&qid=1584436376&rnid=2941120011&ref=sr_nr_n_4)


Also get sprouting seeds while you're there, especially broccoli sprouting seeds as the a super nutrient dense (100x regular broccol). You can survive off the beans and sprouting seeds for months for pennies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE_TLQIl7P4

Seeds:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sprouting+broccoli&rh=n%3A16322001&ref=nb_sb_noss

Mason Jar Lids:
https://www.amazon.com/Picowe-Plastic-Sprouting-Strainer-Canning/dp/B07SDGBB3B

[woodman]

Buy bulk beans on Amazon. There's plenty still in stock. Try buying the stuff thats in 25lb bags to it's actually a good deal or you'll get ripped off.:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dried+beans&rh=n%3A16310101%2Cn%3A16322001&dc&qid=1584436376&rnid=2941120011&ref=sr_nr_n_4


Also get sprouting seeds while you're there, especially broccoli sprouting seeds as the a super nutrient dense (100x regular broccol). You can survive off the beans and sprouting seeds for months for pennies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE_TLQIl7P4

Seeds:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sprouting+broccoli&rh=n%3A16322001&ref=nb_sb_noss

Mason Jar Lids:
https://www.amazon.com/Picowe-Plastic-Sprouting-Strainer-Canning/dp/B07SDGBB3B
Buying bulk beans and sprouting seeds is very good advice. This is one way to get good nutrition during the months when the garden is not growing. One word of advice: The bean crop and many other crops such as wheat and other grains are heavily polluted with glyphosate (Roundup) which they use to dessicate the crops prior to harvest. Buy organic if you can.

[Amanda]

Buy bulk beans on Amazon. There's plenty still in stock. Try buying the stuff thats in 25lb bags too. It's actually a good deal since the other stuff is generally a ripoff:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dried+beans+25+lbs&rh=n%3A16322001&ref=nb_sb_noss (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dried+beans&rh=n%3A16310101%2Cn%3A16322001&dc&qid=1584436376&rnid=2941120011&ref=sr_nr_n_4)


Also get sprouting seeds while you're there, especially broccoli sprouting seeds as the a super nutrient dense (100x regular broccol). You can survive off the beans and sprouting seeds for months for pennies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE_TLQIl7P4

Seeds:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sprouting+broccoli&rh=n%3A16322001&ref=nb_sb_noss

Mason Jar Lids:
https://www.amazon.com/Picowe-Plastic-Sprouting-Strainer-Canning/dp/B07SDGBB3B

Thanks for this!!! I actually have some sprouting stuff (never actually got around to it), so I'll get more. I have one bottle of broccoli sprouts.

I'm working on loading up on the bulk dry goods, especially the rice.

I'll start working on getting getting dried bulk beans.

I'm not actually a bean person --I think I've had some black beans on some mexican food and they weren't bad, and garbanzo beans are okay too, but I haven't tried others. Do they all pretty much taste the same?? Obviously, I'll just have to get what I can get.

Are lentils beans too??

[hoarder]

Ten years ago I went to a Mormon place near Pocatello Idaho (Walton's) and bought lots of rice and beans and a few other things like canned and powdered foods. I sealed them up in mylar bags, put them in 5 gallon buckets and buried them. Some of it must be going bad by now, but the white rice and dry beans will probably outlast me.
Their white rice is "enriched" which means it has MSG in it. I normally would not eat that, but if I was starving....
Dry white rice and beans are the most bang for your buck. Lots of nutrients there but this is practically all carbohydrates.
Cajuns eat something called "red beans and rice", which is one of the most cost-effective meals in the world. Beans (kidney),white rice, onions, pork and seasonings. Rice is cooked separate and the rest is poured on top. It's delicious and filling. So pork in your freezer is a good idea.
It's been 2 1/2 years since the burn and the woods are thick with Whitetails around here. My orchard will start producing next year.
I doubt it will ever come down to this.
TPTB know that if the teevee addled masses have their bellies full, they will believe what they are told and obey, never going into the survival mode.

[monty]

Ten years ago I went to a Mormon place near Pocatello Idaho (Walton's) and bought lots of rice and beans and a few other things like canned and powdered foods. I sealed them up in mylar bags, put them in 5 gallon buckets and buried them. Some of it must be going bad by now, but the white rice and dry beans will probably outlast me.
Their white rice is "enriched" which means it has MSG in it. I normally would not eat that, but if I was starving....
Dry white rice and beans are the most bang for your buck. Lots of nutrients there but this is practically all carbohydrates.
Cajuns eat something called "red beans and rice", which is one of the most cost-effective meals in the world. Beans (kidney),white rice, onions, pork and seasonings. Rice is cooked separate and the rest is poured on top. It's delicious and filling. So pork in your freezer is a good idea.
It's been 2 1/2 years since the burn and the woods are thick with Whitetails around here. My orchard will start producing next year.
I doubt it will ever come down to this.
TPTB know that if the teevee addled masses have their bellies full, they will believe what they are told and obey, never going into the survival mode.

True! Full bellies, football on tv and their beer keeps them under control.

[Amanda]

should we have an extra freezer??

Found these chickpeas.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073JB1TK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A74292C1GAH2Y&th=1

Does anyone know if you just store them in the bags they come in, or do you need to store this stuff in some special way??

[hoarder]

Oxygen and heat kill them slowly. Should be OK for a year as is, stored in pantry. In mylar bags with oxygen absorbers stored in cool dry place, some beans last more than 20 years. Amazon may a place where beans are unloaded when they're getting old.

[JDRock]

Ten years ago I went to a Mormon place near Pocatello Idaho (Walton's) and bought lots of rice and beans and a few other things like canned and powdered foods. I sealed them up in mylar bags, put them in 5 gallon buckets and buried them. Some of it must be going bad by now, but the white rice and dry beans will probably outlast me.
Their white rice is "enriched" which means it has MSG in it. I normally would not eat that, but if I was starving....
Dry white rice and beans are the most bang for your buck. Lots of nutrients there but this is practically all carbohydrates.
Cajuns eat something called "red beans and rice", which is one of the most cost-effective meals in the world. Beans (kidney),white rice, onions, pork and seasonings. Rice is cooked separate and the rest is poured on top. It's delicious and filling. So pork in your freezer is a good idea.
It's been 2 1/2 years since the burn and the woods are thick with Whitetails around here. My orchard will start producing next year.
I doubt it will ever come down to this.
TPTB know that if the teevee addled masses have their bellies full, they will believe what they are told and obey, never going into the survival mode.
Next tome your in poke-a-fellow, let book and I know and we could have a good sit down.

[hoarder]

Next tome your in poke-a-fellow, let book and I know and we could have a good sit down.Thanks for the invite, but I haven't been down there since I went to Walton's that time.

[Shami-Amourae]

should we have an extra freezer??

Found these chickpeas.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073JB1TK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A74292C1GAH2Y&th=1

Does anyone know if you just store them in the bags they come in, or do you need to store this stuff in some special way??

They come in a burlap bag with a plastic lining. I'd put them in another container(s).

Already sold out now though.

I'd order a chest freezer. That will give you 1-2 months of meat storage.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Chest+Freeze&ref=nb_sb_noss

[Half Sense]

If the grocery stores get cleaned out, you should be able to buy cases of #10 cans from your local LDS pantry. Print out an order sheet, fill out your order, drive-thru and they load it right up.

https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng

[Jewboo]

should we have an extra freezer???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnWDH4JR7U

No. Couple of days without electricity and you can kiss all your freezer food goodbye.

[woodman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnWDH4JR7U

No. Couple of days without electricity and you can kiss all your freezer food goodbye.
This is what generators and batteries and solar power are for. If we had a prolonged power outage, I would get busy, real fast, canning everything in the freezers. It would be a hell-of-a deal and the wife would be pissed! We make some awesome canned goods. Every time we cook a bird or ham or even the leftover liquids from St. Paddy's day corned beef, we can it and make awesome soups.

[Tumbleweed]

I've got some turkey and beef I canned in jars ten years ago and every once in a while I open one up and make some soup or stew with it. It's just as good now as when I canned it.

[woodman]

I've got some turkey and beef I canned in jars ten years ago and every once in a while I open one up and make some soup or stew with it. It's just as good now as when I canned it.
Hell yeah! I bought a bunch of guinea hens a few years back and they were so loud and obnoxious that I had to shoot them and can them. They are way better than chicken. I can everything I can!;) It is actually fun to toss everything into the jars and put them in the canner and know that you are making a recipe for some fine soup and canning it at the same time. Nothing better than a carcass soup made from Thanksgiving turkey or a Christmas ham. Toss in beans or noodles, rice and barley. Hell, the imagination is the limit.

[vacuum]

Anyone who wants a deal on freeze dried food....this is a great deal at $4.50 per bag:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RJM2HTE/

Ships in a few months (maybe), but typically freeze dried is a long term type of thing.

[vacuum]

Just was at my local Costco, and they have a great deal on a Mountain House case of freeze dried food.

They're selling a box of 15 pouches for $54.99, which is a discount of $14 off their regular price.

It includes:

3 Beef Stroganoff with noodles (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084PD55JY)
2 Scrambled Eggs (https://www.amazon.com/Mountain-House-Scrambled-Backpacking-Gluten-Free/dp/B084J7JWLL/)
3 Chicken & Dumplings (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084J5D7Z4)
4 Lasagna with meat sauce (https://www.amazon.com/Mountain-House-Lasagna-Backpacking-Camping/dp/B084J59WN4/)
3 Granola with milk & blueberries (https://www.amazon.com/Mountain-House-Blueberries-Backpacking-Servings/dp/B084BT5F3V/)

Deal expires 9/27.

You can see by adding up the cost of the pouches on Amazon how this compares to normal prices.

You could survive on 3 pouches per day, ideally you'd want 4 pouches per day. So this is a solid 4 days of food. Very valuable even if you have bulk foods. You can cut your bulk foods into these pouches and actually have a meal.

Probably the best deal I've seen this year.

[JDRock]

i did the same, dont forget to pack your fd foods and your beans n rice in sealed containers. Also a good water filtration (hand pump) is under 100$ and is needed if the power goes down or they start adding any more crap to your water supply.

[ziero0]

I found five 1.75 liters of JB scotch at Sam's club for $10 each. Almost as good as having preps on hand is the ability to trade for what you need.

[PatColo]

i did the same, dont forget to pack your fd foods and your beans n rice in sealed containers. Also a good water filtration (hand pump) is under 100$ and is needed if the power goes down or they start adding any more crap to your water supply.

some here will recall in a water filter thread around here somewhere, I got a berkey last March... the 1.5 gal Travel Berkey with 2 black berkey elements, & I also sprang for the additional "PF-2" fluoride filters.

With elements brand new OR freshly scrubbed, it filters around 1 gal/hr... then you'll watch that flow rate drop gradually over the next ~1-2 months, to maybe doing 0.5 gal/hr. This has been my experience through the first ~5 mos of ownership/use, consuming ~1gal/day. They reco' disassembling & cleaning the elements monthly, about a 10m, maybe 20m job if you're thorough & clean everything.

Past ~month though, with the CA/West Agenda-21 fires, that speed of deterioration in the flow rate since the last cleaning, has increased dramatically! I clean it, & within a week it's flowing intolerably slow again! In fact, the upper/unfiltered chamber is only able to push through about half its content, then it just stalls coz the elements' surfaces have gotten too 'dirty' again, & the "water/gravity-weight" needed to push through, aint there!

So when I clean the elements, I find there's a "slimy" coating; handling them is like a wet bar of soap, or a fresh caught fish! This slime comes right off under warm running water & rough side of a scotchbright sponge as they recommend... and flow rate is like new again, but give it another few, 5-10 days & WTF again?!

AND, the kitchen tap water I use to fill the top chamber has already gone through a "whole house filter" which attaches to the hose line which feeds the whole RV.
Culligan RVF-10 Recreational Vehicle (RV) External Water Filter, White, 250 Gallon (https://www.amazon.com/Culligan-RVF-10-Exterior-Drinking-Filter/dp/B0010EEVR8)

^ a couple weeks ago, that jobee's filter element rather 'abruptly' needed a changing, as water flow/pressure to the whole rig dropped off a cliff, to maybe 'a little harder than I can pee' rate... as abruptly as someone flipping a switch! Checked water flow at the outside spigot, was fine, no kinks in the hose line... & once I changed that culligan element I was back to 'normal' again. But I've already noticed in this recent ~2 weeks, it's also deteriorating way faster than it should, judging by my taps/shower pressure dropping off again!

So I guess point is, at least in my current CA municipality & I suspect across the Western Agenda-21-Fires states, YAWL NEED TO BE FILTERING YOUR MUNI/TAP WATER!! I cringe to think what the plebs (guessing >half the population?) who don't filter in any way, are ingesting... & cleaning/bathing in?! The raw muni H2O quality around here has dropped off a quick cliff! :o