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EE_
28th March 2020, 10:14 PM
The flu was only the catalyst to the real pandemic, the engineered economic collapse.
They have the population so freaked out that many jobs won't be returning anytime soon:

No baseball season this year
There may not be any sporting events for the next year, or longer, at least not with fans
No more going to the movie theaters for the foreseeable future
No more Disneyland, amusement parks, fairs, this summer
No concerts
Restaurants won't be as busy as they used to be, when they open back up
Cruise ship business may collapse
Air travel may be much less then before
Gun shows, Coin shows Trade shows may be scaled back
Less jobs, less new cars being bought
No more election rallies this year

Can you guys think of any other venues, businesses, or events to add to this list, the economic pandemic will affect,?

Any opinions...
What about real estate?
What about the stock market?
What about the oil industry?
Will the banks survive this?
What about casinos?
Are we heading into another great depression?

The only thing that can change this scenario is a vaccine and doctors telling people they are 100% protected.
Once they produce it (they may already have it), everyone will be forced to take it.

BrewTech
28th March 2020, 10:31 PM
The flu was only the catalyst to the real pandemic, the engineered economic collapse.
They have the population so freaked out that many jobs won't be returning anytime soon:

No baseball season this year
There may not be any sporting events for the next year, or longer, at least not with fans
No more going to the movie theaters for the foreseeable future
No more Disneyland, amusement parks, fairs, this summer
No concerts
Restaurants won't be as busy as they used to be, when they open back up
Cruise ship business may collapse
Air travel may be much less then before
Gun shows, Coin shows Trade shows may be scaled back
Less jobs, less new cars being bought
No more election rallies this year

Can you guys think of any other venues, businesses, or events to add to this list, the economic pandemic will affect,?

Any opinions...
What about real estate?
What about the stock market?
Will the banks survive this?
Are we heading into another great depression?

The only thing that can change this scenario is a vaccine and doctors telling people they are 100% protected.
Once they produce it (they may already have it), everyone will be forced to take it.

These are all good points and questions.

A good thread to get back to with sudden epiphanies and astute observations.

EE_
28th March 2020, 10:32 PM
These are all good points and questions.

A good thread to get back to with sudden epiphanies and astute observations.

It looks pretty fucking grim, doesn't it?
I added a couple...

BrewTech
28th March 2020, 10:39 PM
I think even the "essential" businesses, (i.e. automotive repair shops) are going to suffer as most other non-gov entities, because they still have to get paid for their work. Who will be in a position to pay from the "private sector"?

Looking at the fact that the public won't have the usual entertainment distractions, like sports... hell, this might lead to an unexpected improvement in the general public state of mind. If people are forced to sit home and ponder the real meanings of life and survival, instead of having the option of self-induced brain death, maybe folks will grow up a bit.

Or maybe I'm just a wishful thinker.

BrewTech
28th March 2020, 10:39 PM
It looks pretty fucking grim, doesn't it?


Well, yeah. Sort of. But then, see my other post.

EE_
28th March 2020, 10:44 PM
Well, yeah. Sort of. But then, see my other post.

Which post?

There are bright spots to be found too, like you said people may improve their lives and realize what is most important to them, but that doesn't sound very stock market positive.

I expect beer, alcohol and drugs will be very popular.

BrewTech
28th March 2020, 10:46 PM
Which post?

There are brights spots to found too, like you said people may improve their lives and realize what is most important to them, but that doesn't sound very stock market positive.

I expect beer, alcohol and drugs will be very popular.

I appreciate the fact you made a distinction between "beer" and "alcohol". :)

Check UToob for videos related to "stay at home 2020" or something to that effect, and you'll see a lot of folks are very much imbibing, recording, and uploading. Some goofy stuff to be seen, for sure. People are already starting to lose it.

EE_
28th March 2020, 10:47 PM
I appreciate the fact you made a distinction between "beer" and "alcohol". :)

Yes, there is a difference, I know that! :P

EE_
28th March 2020, 10:55 PM
I appreciate the fact you made a distinction between "beer" and "alcohol". :)

Check UToob for videos related to "stay at home 2020" or something to that effect, and you'll see a lot of folks are very much imbibing, recording, and uploading. Some goofy stuff to be seen, for sure. People are already starting to lose it.

People are losing it and it may get dangerous soon. I tell neighbors, family and friends to watch their asses and stay alert.
I'm not letting it stress me out. I'm just concerned and not about the flu.

BrewTech
28th March 2020, 11:07 PM
People are losing it and it may get dangerous soon. I tell neighbors, family and friends to watch their asses and stay alert.
I'm not letting it stress me out. I'm just concerned and not about the flu.

I'm just glad I'm not so near a big city anymore. Plenty of assholes where I live, but not so much the seasoned urban type, if you know what I mean.

ImaCannin
28th March 2020, 11:23 PM
Yes, I can see a dive in the real estate market. 10 times worse than in 2008/09. There were job loses back then but not like what is happening now. A lot of the Illuminati companies (Macy’s, TJMax, home goods, etc) started the bAll rolling by closing their doors from the get go. A lot of local company’s are trying to stay open here, but they just declared us a stay at home state because we are a five corona virus de@th state. You’ve got the migratory farm workers from Mexico being halted before even leaving the country, that means no one to harvest crops.
A lot of crop failures from last year have made the grain stores lacking.
FDIC asking people to not remove their money from the bank, gold producers closing the shop down and not minting any new coins.
Some banks might be left, but more will be lost.

I think we are f~^_**

Horn
29th March 2020, 12:44 AM
Can you guys think of any other venues, businesses, or events to add to this list, the economic pandemic will affect,?

General and all sectors 30-40% loss for at least 9 months.

woodman
29th March 2020, 04:06 AM
There is no reason that Americans cannot grow and harvest their own food. We used to, until the mega farms started to operate such thin margins and drive the families out. Then came the cheap Latino labor. I have a lot of Amish all around me. They will suffer somewhat from this but not as much as the typical English. Their lives will not change but they will have to tighten up a bit. A lot of things they rely on are produced by the 'English'. They will actually thrive.

I don't know if there is a positive side to this crash. I think there is. One thing is for sure; any general worth his salt in wartime can use a defeat to their advantage. It takes some imagination but there is always a way to wrest victories, even small, out of defeats. If you get your ass kicked, you learn from it. If you wake up with a terrible hang over, you learn from it and endeavor to be a wiser man. We must endeavor to learn from this and instead of tearing ourselves apart, use it for solidarity.

Lord, lead me to a greater appreciation of all things;
Especially those beings you have put upon this Earth.
Angels walk among us,
Yet it seems it is only with their passing that we truly appreciate
What we have lost.

Yes, when times are bad, the bad get worse, but the good get better. Let's get better.

ziero0
29th March 2020, 04:57 AM
Which population?
The susceptible? The infected? Or the recovered? These would be indexed with respect to the virus.

The unemployed or those still employed? These are indexed with respect to the economy (a trust).

The solvent or the insolvent? This class must also consider the bankrupt. These would be indexed by bank statement or other financial conditions. (Note the similarity to susceptible/solvent, infected/insolvent and recovered/bankrupt model.

What other populations might be posulated?

EE_
29th March 2020, 06:11 AM
Almost half the population of the US have spent the last 3 1/2 years being miserable, angry and hateful...during the best of times in history. I've said people should have been celebrating these best of times, that there would be time later to be miserable. Now people will be wishing we could return to those great times. Too bad they wasted these great years, now they will have a good reason to be miserable.

Next up, the pension bust. The only way to keep pensions afloat is to print print print!

EE_
29th March 2020, 06:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCDncXO7s4U

Jewboo
29th March 2020, 07:46 AM
People are losing it and it may get dangerous soon. I tell neighbors, family and friends to watch their asses and stay alert.
I'm not letting it stress me out. I'm just concerned and not about the flu.

Worse than that EE. Cops ain't "going to work" much longer and soon the niggers will be running loose:


WEST BLOOMFIELD, Mich. (AP) — More than a fifth of Detroit’s police force is quarantined; two officers have died from coronavirus and at least 39 have tested positive, including the chief of police.

:)
(https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/03/police-in-us-sickened-by-covid-19-officers-are-scared-out-there.html)

Horn
30th March 2020, 01:31 PM
I'm just starting to figure the bulk in its entirety.

If the U.S. is not competley burned to the ground by the end of the summer, I would be suprised.

PatColo
31st March 2020, 02:29 PM
No baseball season this year
There may not be any sporting events for the next year, or longer, at least not with fans
No more going to the movie theaters for the foreseeable future
No more Disneyland, amusement parks, fairs, this summer
No concerts
Restaurants won't be as busy as they used to be, when they open back up
Cruise ship business may collapse
Air travel may be much less then before
Gun shows, Coin shows Trade shows may be scaled back
Less jobs, less new cars being bought
No more election rallies this year

yes but, as EMJ has been duly critical of (https://twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1242634200278347841), TPTB have ensured liquor & cannabis shops are open (essential!), & don't overlook, FREE INTERNET PRON!

I forget which pundit I heard quip, the free pron is queued to replace pro sports as "national pass time" (as if it wasn't already for millions...:rolleyes:)

keehah
1st April 2020, 08:35 AM
No


NBCNews: Wall Street rallies, after Trump extends shutdown until April 30 (https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/wall-street-rallies-after-trump-extends-shutdown-until-april-30-n1171986)


[I]Wall Street stands empty as people stay away from the area

Wall Street rebounded on Monday, after President Donald Trump announced the extension of the nation's economic shutdown until April 30 at the earliest.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average ended the day 680 points higher, while the S&P gained around 3.3 percent. The tech-heavy Nasdaq also ticked up by around 3.6 percent, after Amazon, Microsoft, and other sector leaders performed well throughout the day...

Despite the largest ever number of weekly jobless claims in history, Wall Street rallied last week, with the Dow posting its biggest weekly gain since 1938.

keehah
21st October 2020, 12:30 PM
Just some direct intel fwiw.

Went for coffee at a chain place and happened to sit down near the local manager(s) (Asian) having a conversation with regional manager (old White guy) who traveled here from the city.

Telling the local managers they are expecting 'very severe ecomonic times' over the next few years (but expects their business to survive).
Also saying he expects more indoor seating bans to come for the restaurant business.
15-20% downsize in their business over the next few years.
Telling managers to follow all the new rules.
"Be very progressive following the [new] rules". ~'If you have to fire someone for not following the new rules be angry with them for making you do it, you will sleep better at night.'