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PatColo
25th April 2020, 08:40 PM
edit: appears this 'story' is fake nooz


there's some dispute re if this is fake nooz; she last retweeted something <= 12h ago
https://twitter.com/Prokaryota/with_replies

story posted @ https://n5ti.com/ ~15h ago...

I got it from Dr. Sherri Tenpenny's feed: https://twitter.com/BusyDrT

Aaaand I now find she deleted the tweet, in which case, all the former comments remain, just with no originating tweet.

see: https://twitter.com/BlueLionBlog/status/1254227610474815493

BBC story 4/23 telling of the trial https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52394485


First volunteer in UK coronavirus vaccine trial has died
(https://n5ti.com/stories/1275/)
"...After taking her shot, Elisa Granato told the BBC: “I’m a scientist, so I wanted to try to support the scientific process wherever I can.”


^ open @ link; they don't give her age but pic appears she's around 40, healthy :'(

Ares
25th April 2020, 08:47 PM
Well that's encouraging.....

/Sarcasm

I've read that scientist have been attempting to develop a Coronavirus vaccine for quite a while. However during almost every study after vaccine administration once the recipient was exposed to the real virus they were vaccinated against the effects were so much worse than had they not taken the vaccine.

Thanks but no thanks, I won't be taking a vaccine. I'll take my chances with the virus and my reliable innate immune system.

midnight rambler
25th April 2020, 09:11 PM
They've tested their experimental vaccine yet I've yet to see any testing for the contagion using Koch's postulates.

And FWIW those liars are Wikipedia downplay Koch's postulates as antiquated.

mamboni
25th April 2020, 09:12 PM
Someone should email Bill to tell him to add a notch to his belt.

Tumbleweed
25th April 2020, 09:20 PM
I wonder if there will be a second volunteer?

PatColo
25th April 2020, 09:20 PM
there's some dispute re if this is fake nooz; she last retweeted something <= 12h ago https://twitter.com/Prokaryota/with_replies

story posted @ https://n5ti.com/ ~15h ago...

I got it from Dr. Sherri Tenpenny's feed: https://twitter.com/BusyDrT

Aaaand I now find she deleted the tweet, in which case, all the former comments remain, just with no originating tweet.

see: https://twitter.com/BlueLionBlog/status/1254227610474815493

BBC story 4/23 telling of the trial https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52394485

monty
25th April 2020, 09:25 PM
Well that's encouraging.....

/Sarcasm

I've read that scientist have been attempting to develop a Coronavirus vaccine for quite a while. However during almost every study after vaccine administration once the recipient was exposed to the real virus they were vaccinated against the effects were so much worse than had they not taken the vaccine.

Thanks but no thanks, I won't be taking a vaccine. I'll take my chances with the virus and my reliable innate immune system.

After my father died my mother remarried. She and her husband took the flu shot every year and every year they were sick, but to hear them tell it it wasn’t the flu shot causing it.

I am 78 years old and have never had a flu shot. I seldom have a cold an never have had the winter flu.

Ares
26th April 2020, 09:06 AM
After my father died my mother remarried. She and her husband took the flu shot every year and every year they were sick, but to hear them tell it it wasn’t the flu shot causing it.

I am 78 years old and have never had a flu shot. I seldom have a cold an never have had the winter flu.

My last flu vaccine was when I was in boot camp, a little over 20 years ago now. Haven't had a shot since and never will for the rest of my life. I'm rarely sick, and on that rare occasion I do get sick I'm usually over it in 48-72 hours after symptoms appear.

I also bought a book by Dr. Andrew Saul called "Doctor Yourself". He advocates vitamin therapy for treating illnesses and have followed his recommendations in his book for my kids when they get sick its been extremely helpful. My youngest went 2 1/2 years before having his first antibiotic, but had a lingering ear infection that just wasn't going away and didn't want to see him suffer anymore.

The doctor was surprised he had gone so long without having a single antibiotic treatment. The 2 older kids have gone longer, but their immune systems are stronger and more advanced as they have been in school a while and have been exposed to all sorts of illnesses. They rarely miss school due to illness, and neither of my kids have had a single vaccine. Flu or otherwise.

keehah
26th April 2020, 09:14 AM
Well that's encouraging.....

/Sarcasm

I've read that scientist have been attempting to develop a Coronavirus vaccine for quite a while. However during almost every study after vaccine administration once the recipient was exposed to the real virus they were vaccinated against the effects were so much worse than had they not taken the vaccine.

Thanks but no thanks, I won't be taking a vaccine. I'll take my chances with the virus and my reliable innate immune system.

This is true. And can explain the reason that there are no vaccines for corona virus (the cold) yet their are for the other flu viruses.

Yet the 'public health experts' 'our' politicians claim to be following are saying our economy needs to remain locked down until we all get stabbed with one of these vaccines that make the virus even more deadly!?

Ares
26th April 2020, 09:19 AM
This is true. And can explain the reason that there are no vaccines for corona virus (the cold) yet their are for the other flu viruses.

Yet the 'public health experts' 'our' politicians claim to be following are saying our economy needs to remain locked down until we all get stabbed with one of these vaccines that make the virus even more deadly!?

We are not able to post images here, but there has been a meme that's going around with Bill gates advocating depopulation (which he has done on multiple occasions). Then on the next line advocates saving humanity with a vaccine.

Basically showing the completely oxymoronic position Bill has advocated for himself. You can't be for global depopulation yet want to save everyone with a vaccine.

monty
26th April 2020, 09:29 AM
My last flu vaccine was when I was in boot camp, a little over 20 years ago now. Haven't had a shot since and never will for the rest of my life. I'm rarely sick, and on that rare occasion I do get sick I'm usually over it in 48-72 hours after symptoms appear.

I also bought a book by Dr. Andrew Saul called "Doctor Yourself". He advocates vitamin therapy for treating illnesses and have followed his recommendations in his book for my kids when they get sick its been extremely helpful. My youngest went 2 1/2 years before having his first antibiotic, but had a lingering ear infection that just wasn't going away and didn't want to see him suffer anymore.

The doctor was surprised he had gone so long without having a single antibiotic treatment. The 2 older kids have gone longer, but their immune systems are stronger and more advanced as they have been in school a while and have been exposed to all sorts of illnesses. They rarely miss school due to illness, and neither of my kids have had a single vaccine. Flu or otherwise.

When I was real young until I was 5 we all had to take typhoid shots because there was typhoid in the water. I had childhood shots for diphtheria, scarlet fever and smallpox vaccine. I took Dr. Salk’s polio sugar cube in school and have had one or two antibiotic injections, the last one about 1972. I don’t think I have ever had a tetanus shot.

Three people I knew got polio from the Salk vaccine.

I have had stomach flu a 3 or 4 times in my life, but that probably was from something I ate or food poisoning.

PatColo
26th April 2020, 01:03 PM
FWIW I rolled by her twatter acct again https://twitter.com/Prokaryota/with_replies to check if she's piped up shouting "I aint DED!!" or some such.

account has been turned "private" IE members only, which nominally can only be done by her, or presumably twatter admin.

She could have at least updated her 'bio' IE the blurb about herself which can still be seen by everyone, but that bit is unchanged.

so I'm concluding FAKE NEWS.