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EE_
4th January 2021, 08:51 AM
You've heard them all before...
Funny thing to see Wall Street pushing stocks and bitcoin, when all 'their' same arguments about gold, can be said about bitcoin.
The only difference I see, is stocks and bitcoin keep your money in 'their' rigged game, moving back and forth and in and out.
Gold takes your money out of 'their' rigged game. You are in control.

There’s Just Not Enough Gold to Support the Money Supply
Not Enough Gold to Support Global Trade
Gold Doesn’t Offer Yield

Arguments Against Gold And Why They Are Wrong
Last Updated: November 16, 2020/Derek Wolfe

Gold is in the early stages of its third great bull run that will take it to record heights.

The first two great bull markets were 1971-1980 (gold up 2,200%) and 1999-2011 (gold up 760%). After peaking in 2011, gold fell sharply from that peak to below $1,100 per ounce by 2015.

Now the third great bull market is underway. It began on December 16, 2015, when gold bottomed at $1,050 per ounce at the end of the 2011-2015 bear market. Since then, gold is up significantly, but it’s small change compared to 2,200% and 760% gains in the last two bull markets.

Still, most mainstream economists dismiss gold. They call it a barbarous relic and say it has no place in today’s monetary system.

But today, I want to remind you of the three main arguments mainstream economists make against gold and why they’re dead wrong.

There’s Just Not Enough Gold to Support the Money Supply!

The first one you may have heard many times. “Experts” say there’s not enough gold to support a global financial system. Gold can’t support all the world’s paper money, its assets and liabilities, its expanded balance sheets of all the banks and the financial institutions in the world. They say there’s not enough gold to support that money supply.

That argument is complete nonsense. It’s true that there’s a limited quantity of gold. But more importantly, there’s always enough gold to support the financial system. The key is to set its price correctly.

It is true that at today’s price of about $1,875 an ounce, pegging it to the existing money supply would be highly deflationary.

But to avoid that, all we have to do is increase the gold price. In other words, take the amount of existing gold, place it at, say, $14,000 an ounce, and there’s plenty of gold to support the money supply.

In other words, a certain amount of gold can always support any amount of money supply if its price is set properly. There can be a debate about the proper gold price, but there’s no real doubt that we have enough gold to support the monetary system. I’ve done that calculation, and it’s fairly simple. It’s not complicated mathematics.

Just take the amount of money supply in the world, the amount of physical gold in the world, divide one by the other, and there’s the gold price.

You do have to make some assumptions, however. For example, do you want the money supply backed 100% by gold, or is 40% sufficient? Or maybe 20%? Those are legitimate policy issues that can be debated. I’ve done the calculations for all of them. I assumed 40% gold backing.

Some economists say it should be higher, but I think 40% is reasonable.

Using existing money supply, a 40% gold backing, and available gold supplies, the implied non-deflationary price of gold is $14,000 per ounce (and getting higher as money supply expands).

Governments are desperate to overcome disinflation and deflation. Excessive debt loads are a headwind to growth and cause precautionary savings, both of which are deflationary. The only reliable way to break the back of deflation (and, no, money printing does not work) is to devalue the dollar against gold.

This was done in 1933 and 1971, and it worked to create inflation both times. An 85% devaluation of the dollar (about the devaluation achieved in the 1970s) will inflate away the debt burden, stimulate nominal growth and result in a gold price of $15,000 per ounce.

But again, it’s important to realize that there’s always enough gold to meet the needs of the financial system. You just need to get the price right.

Regardless, my research has led me to one conclusion — we’re going to see the collapse of the international monetary system. When I say that, I specifically mean a collapse in confidence in paper currencies around the world. It’s not just the death of the dollar, or the demise of the euro, it’s a collapse in confidence of all paper currencies.

When confidence is lost, central banks may have to revert to gold either as a benchmark or an actual gold standard to restore confidence. That wouldn’t be by choice. No central banker would ever willingly choose to go back on a gold standard.

But in a scenario where there’s a total loss in confidence, they’ll likely have to go back to some form of a gold standard.

If you’re going to have a gold standard or even use gold as a reference point for money, if you need to restore confidence in the dollar, the implied non-deflationary price is $15,000 an ounce.

Not Enough Gold to Support Global Trade

The second argument raised against gold is that it cannot support the growth of world trade and commerce because it doesn’t grow fast enough. The world’s mining output is about 1.6% of total gold stocks (global gold production has actually flatlined at around 3,300 metric tonnes for the past five years). World growth (leaving 2020 out because of COVID) is roughly 3–4% a year. It varies, but let’s assume 3–4%.

Critics say if world growth is about 3–4% a year and gold only grows at 1.6%, then gold doesn’t grow fast enough to support world trade. A gold standard therefore gives the system a deflationary bias. But that’s also nonsense, because mining output has nothing to do with the ability of central banks to expand the gold supply.

The reason is that official gold, the gold owned by central banks and finance ministries, is somewhere about 35,000 tons. Total gold, including privately held gold, is about 180,000 tons. That’s 145,000 tons of private gold outside the official gold supply.

If any central bank wants to expand the money supply, all it has to do is print money and buy some of the private gold. Central banks are not constrained by mining output. They don’t have to wait for the miners to dig up gold if they want to expand the money supply. They simply have to buy some private gold through dealers in the marketplace.

To argue that gold supplies don’t grow enough to support trade is an argument that sounds true on a superficial level. But when you analyze it further, you realize that’s nonsense. That’s because the gold supply added by mining is irrelevant since central banks can just buy private gold.

Money Doesn’t Offer Yield

The third argument you hear is that gold has no yield. That’s Warren Buffett’s main criticism of gold (even though he’s now invested in a gold stock). It’s true, but gold isn’t supposed to have a yield. Gold is money. And money doesn’t offer a yield.

I was on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo once. We had a discussion in the live interview when the issue came up. I said, “Maria, pull out a dollar bill, hold it up in front of you and look at it. Does it have a yield? No, of course it has no yield, money has no yield.”

If you want yield, you have to take risk. You can put your money in the bank and get a little bit of yield — maybe half a percent. Probably not even that. But it’s not money anymore. When you put it in the bank, it’s not money. It’s a bank deposit. That’s an unsecured liability in an occasionally insolvent commercial bank.

You can also buy stocks, bonds, real estate and many other things with your money. But when you do, it’s not money anymore. It’s some other asset, and they involve varying degrees of risk.

The point simply is that if you want yield, you have to take risk. Physical gold doesn’t offer an official yield, but it doesn’t carry risk. It’s simply a way of preserving wealth. Gold is money.

So, the three mainstream criticisms of gold don’t hold water once you actually analyze them properly.

Now, the third great bull market in gold is underway, as I predict gold will reach $15,000 by 2026. Of course, nothing goes up in a straight line, and there will be pullbacks along the way. But the trend is up.

I believe the primary way every investor should play the rise in gold is to own the physical metal directly. In fact, I always say that at least 10% of your investment portfolio should be devoted to physical gold — bars and coins primarily.

Originally posted on Daily Reckoning

https://gsiexchange.com/arguments-against-gold-and-why-they-are-wrong/

monty
4th January 2021, 09:59 AM
What he says is true. The jews controlling the banks will never allow gold and silver to be money

EE_
4th January 2021, 11:28 AM
What he says is true. The jews controlling the banks will never allow gold and silver to be money

Fuck the Jews, they will not take gold and silver away. As long as our country is still on a currency system, Gold and silver is our money. Once there is no currency and we are on a crypto digit system, it will be game over. Bullets will be the currency in that time. At some point, crypto investors should cash out for gold and silver. If you really want to beat the system.
Promoting cryptos is helping the globalist win. I'm glad I don't have children to doom them by supporting the beast and their crypto new world order.

ziero0
4th January 2021, 01:11 PM
Gold retains remedy at Law. Pay in paper and Equity will decide the outcome of your contracts.

Use gold for land. Use silver for residential. One dollar is all it takes. You aren't trying to fund society. You are trying to retain a remedy in case the situation goes south.

Listen to people try to explain this when they have no concept of the benefits.

woodman
4th January 2021, 01:22 PM
Fuck the Jews, they will not take gold and silver away. As long as our country is still on a currency system, Gold and silver is our money. Once there is no currency and we are on a crypto digit system, it will be game over. Bullets will be the currency in that time. At some point, crypto investors should cash out for gold and silver. If you really want to beat the system.
Promoting cryptos is helping the globalist win. I'm glad I don't have children to doom them by supporting the beast and their crypto new world order.
They are already in control of the cryptos. Watch the pump and dump. They do it again and again.

StreetsOfGold
5th January 2021, 03:25 PM
Peter (Gold bug) Schiff has been preaching for years that the Dow and Gold would go 1 to 1 at the time of collapse, well, here we are and Gold is about 2,000 and it still takes 15 ounces to buy the Dow, however, you CAN buy the Dow with 1 Bitcoin and as of this post (34K) still have almost 4K left over.
Is the (Jew) Schiff being real or has he just been a stooge/puppet all along? He sure got this one Wrong, DEAD WRONG!!

Shami-Amourae
5th January 2021, 07:35 PM
The marketcap of Bitcoin will be greater than the marketcap of Gold in at least 10 years (8-12 Trillion?).
Likely 5 years.

Gold is a horrendous investment that hasn't even kept up with inflation for the past 10 years. You'd have more purchasing power if you left $100 in a bank that pays you 0.0001% interest than holding it in Gold.
Never trust Boomers with investment wisdom: They are literally the stupidest generation in human history when it comes to finances.

Gold mining techniques are getting better and better so the supply is inflating rapidly. Gold supply is always increasing, so it's not a reliable store of value anymore.

That being said, Silver likely will 10x within the next few years, especially with more renewables coming online. You'd still do better holding your funds in Polkadot or Cardano.

Gold will definitely go up, but the marketcap is being transfered to Bitcoin. People will sell Gold for Bitcoin and you'll see Bitcoin hit $1 million USD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Owr1rBkLs8
(DavinciJ15 bought most of his Bitcoin at $1 and is a decamillionaire now.)

I told you guys to buy Bitcoin since $4 and you almost all still ignore me and mock me.

Listen to people who actually understand how the world works: The world is becoming digital. All legacy analog systems will go extinct.
Humans rode horses for THOUSANDS of years. Then the automobile was invented. Everyone traded in their horses for cars. The world makes radical changes due to technology, you have to understand this. Gold is in the process of transitioning from a monetary metal to an industrial metal. Bitcoin will become the world reserve currency. It's digital gold.

Shami-Amourae
5th January 2021, 07:48 PM
They are already in control of the cryptos. Watch the pump and dump. They do it again and again.

Not yet. They are trying to buy up the market, but it's causing the price to skyrocket. Grayscale alone buys up 100% of the Bitcoin supply that's newly mined, and like 4-6x of the rest on the open market. It's cause a liquidity shock which will cause Boomers to buy in at higher and higher prices since they don't listen to younger people who know what technology is.

The funny thing is that they'll get more and more desperate to get Bitcoin that they'll keep printing dollars to buy it which will be the direct cause of hyperinflation.

Most holders of Bitcoin are Libertarians/Cypherpunks.

This is a transfer of wealth from bankers to Libertarians/Cypherpunks. We're overthrowing them right now.
Coinbase and Binance will become the new JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs.
Once we no longer need to offload crypto to dollars to buy things those will go down in favor of DEX's (Decentralized Exchanges).
Things like Uniswap, Polkaswap, and other atomic exchanges will take over and those will be uncensorable.

woodman
5th January 2021, 08:40 PM
The marketcap of Bitcoin will be greater than the marketcap of Gold in at least 10 years (8-12 Trillion?).
Likely 5 years.

Gold is a horrendous investment that hasn't even kept up with inflation for the past 10 years. You'd have more purchasing power if you left $100 in a bank that pays you 0.0001% interest than holding it in Gold.
Never trust Boomers with investment wisdom: They are literally the stupidest generation in human history when it comes to finances.


I told you guys to buy Bitcoin since $4 and you almost all still ignore me and mock me.

Listen to people who actually understand how the world works: The world is becoming digital. All legacy analog systems will go extinct.
Humans rode horses for THOUSANDS of years. Then the automobile was invented. Everyone traded in their horses for cars. The world makes radical changes due to technology, you have to understand this. Gold is in the process of transitioning from a monetary metal to an industrial metal. Bitcoin will become the world reserve currency. It's digital gold.
Shami, you seem to have some kind of persecution complex. I don't think anyone here has discounted your vision since we saw bitcoin play out. You have been correct and nobody here has denied it.

I will point out a couple of items:

The Amish distrusted electricity and the automobile. While the world moved on, the Amish kept plugging away. The Amish are the only people who have not lost their direction and have maintained their culture. They have prospered beyond anything we 'English' can lay claim to. We have been destroyed. I have watched farm auctions and seen the Amish buying up the land and the remnants of the destroyed farmers. Who knows what happened to all those families. The Amish have multiplied and guess what, they are mostly millionaires! I have been driving for them lately. The ones around here, have come from elsewhere. They have sold their farms for millions of dollars and bought cheaper land in more out of the way places and now they hire the English to be their drivers.

I sit and watch these people while I wait to drive them from homestead to homestead as they visit their friends and families and they are party animals; not in the sense of drugs and dissolution, but they love to congregate and they are not afraid of each other and they don't wear masks or social distance.

Secondly, I don't for an instant believe that the powers that shouldn't be have allowed bitcoin to take a slice of their action. No fucking way. It is their action. If it wasn't their action, they would make it their action. Nuff said.

We shall see how it plays out.

Lastly I will quote you again:

"I told you guys to buy Bitcoin since $4 and you almost all still ignore me and mock me."

Who is mocking you? You are the one that did not take your own advice and sold off your bitcoin for what now seems a pittance. We have not given you a scrap of shit for either your original advice nor your failure to follow your own advice but at this point, I personally, am getting tired of your whining.

Now you say you are on your way to becoming a millionaire. Well cool. More power to ya.

monty
5th January 2021, 09:05 PM
I think that all that buying int the crypto market will feed the move to a technocratic New World Order. I could be wrong but without their digital currency they won’t be as likely to control everyone?

Shami-Amourae
5th January 2021, 09:13 PM
"I told you guys to buy Bitcoin since $4 and you almost all still ignore me and mock me."

Who is mocking you? You are the one that did not take your own advice and sold off your bitcoin for what now seems a pittance. We have not given you a scrap of shit for either your original advice nor your failure to follow your own advice but at this point, I personally, am getting tired of your whining.


That's why I'm bitter.
I succumbed to peer pressure and sold off most of my Bitcoin early on. My net worth should be around $25 Million today if I hadn't.
I apologize I come off bad, you just have no idea how frustrating it's been for me knowing all that.

I'm a much better investor now as I follow fundamentals and stay true to my convictions now.

Shami-Amourae
5th January 2021, 09:31 PM
technocratic New World Order.

I think it will be a Corporate Technocracy.

Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-kdRdzxdZQ

monty
5th January 2021, 09:37 PM
I think it will be a Corporate Technocracy.

Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-kdRdzxdZQ

You very well may be right.

Hitch
5th January 2021, 09:39 PM
I'm a much better investor now as I follow fundamentals and stay true to my convictions now.

How do you feel about bitcoin being an investment rather than a currency? Do you consider bitcoin to be an asset?

The number of cryptos that can be created is endless. They can keep being created to compete with bitcoin. So, bitcoin may be the most popular or well known now, but at it's price, can it keep going up?

I'd say the fundamentals are speculative, gambling on the future, at best. If 1 bitcoin is worth $30,000, I personally can prep a lot of guns, food, ammo, gold, silver with that one "digital" coin festering in the digital world we live in.

Shami-Amourae
5th January 2021, 11:05 PM
How do you feel about bitcoin being an investment rather than a currency? Do you consider bitcoin to be an asset?

Bitcoin is Digital Gold. You use it to preserve/store your wealth. It's not a currency.
Buy Altcoins to speculate and grow your wealth to accumulate more Bitcoin. With Goldbugs its about stacking ounces, while for Bitcoin people they call it "Stacking Sats".

"Currency" would be stablecoins like Tether, USDC, Dai, and so on. Tether has a market volume of $90 Billion daily, so it's actually being used around the world as a currency. The USDC is used a lot in Third World countries to get around with Swift system, while still operating in the Dollar. The CIA and other US Dark OPs use USDC to get around in countries where the Swift system is blocked too:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/tether
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/usd-coin


So, bitcoin may be the most popular or well known now, but at it's price, can it keep going up?

Yeah since again I think it's digital Gold and the network effect will drive to to become the new world reserve currency like Gold was for 4,000+ years. It's just the new Gold now.


I'd say the fundamentals are speculative, gambling on the future, at best. If 1 bitcoin is worth $30,000, I personally can prep a lot of guns, food, ammo, gold, silver with that one "digital" coin festering in the digital world we live in.
99.9% of Altcoins are trash and will go to Zero.

I think Ethereum, Polkadot, Cardano, and Monero will be around a while (I recommend owning all of these.) Some others like Stellar, XRP, Litecoin, and Bitcoin Cash may be around for 1-2 more cycles (4 years) but likely will disappear.

Do yourself a favor and look at the historical snapshots of cryptos for the last decade here:
https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/

Look what rose to the top and disappeared to zero. Out of the top 100 on this list only Bitcoin, Litecoin, XRP, and Dogecoin (!!!) are still major cryptocurrencies. The rest are all defunct now.



Here's from
January 5, 2014 (7 years ago):
https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20140105/



Rank
Name
Symbol
Market Cap
Price
Circulating Supply
Volume (24h)
% 1h
% 24h
% 7d



1
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/1.pngBitcoin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/)
BTC
$11,379,661,042
$933.53 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/markets/)
12,189,925 BTC
$72,898,520 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/markets/)
0.25%
8.36%
25.84%








2
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/2.pngLitecoin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/litecoin/)
LTC
$659,900,584
$26.83 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/litecoin/markets/)
24,595,942 LTC
$29,995,030 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/litecoin/markets/)
-0.21%
6.49%
11.95%








3
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/52.pngXRP (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/xrp/)
XRP
$197,241,281
$0.025229 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/xrp/markets/)
7,817,889,792 XRP *
$200,438 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/xrp/markets/)
0.27%
-10.38%
-7.10%








4
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/5.pngPeercoin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/)
PPC
$152,073,508
$7.23 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/markets/)
21,019,558 PPC
$5,371,518 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/markets/)
-0.01%
-0.37%
70.51%








5
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/83.pngOmni (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/omni/)
OMNI
$110,826,236
$178.90 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/omni/markets/)
619,478 OMNI *
$53,876 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/omni/markets/)
0.14%
1.13%
0.75%








6
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/66.pngNxt (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/)
NXT
$63,360,014
$0.063360 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/markets/)
999,998,016 NXT *
$282,060 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/markets/)
-0.86%
-2.10%
19.68%








7
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/3.pngNamecoin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/namecoin/)
NMC
$60,232,062
$7.84 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/namecoin/markets/)
7,681,043 NMC
$3,727,008 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/namecoin/markets/)
0.24%
0.73%
57.11%








8
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/62.pngBitShares PTS (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-pts/)
PTS
$24,630,585
$19.31 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-pts/markets/)
1,275,693 PTS *
$54,439 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-pts/markets/)
-1.34%
0.00%
-2.63%








9
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/53.pngQuark (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/quark/)
QRK
$21,670,928
$0.087714 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/quark/markets/)
247,062,160 QRK
$195,178 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/quark/markets/)
1.25%
-6.83%
-19.96%








10
https://s2.coinmarketcap.com/static/img/coins/32x32/37.pngMegacoin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/megacoin/)
MEC
$18,931,094
$0.876491 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/megacoin/markets/)
21,598,724 MEC
$25,981 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/megacoin/markets/)
1.25%
3.63%
2.83%

aeondaze
5th January 2021, 11:12 PM
99.9% of Altcoins are trash and will go to Zero.

I think Ethereum, Polkadot, Cardano, and Monero will be around a while (I recommend owning all of these.) Some others like Stellar, XRP, Litecoin, and Bitcoin Cash may be around for 1-2 more cycles (4 years) but likely will disappear.

Nice post, a few q's. tho

Why will these coins be around "a while" while the others won't?

Some of these coins like litecoin and bitcoin cash have been around a while, why will they only last 1-2 more cycles?

Cheers Shami

Shami-Amourae
5th January 2021, 11:18 PM
Nice post, a few q's. tho

Why will these coins be around "a while" while the others won't?

Some of these coins like litecoin and bitcoin cash have been around a while, why will they only last 1-2 more cycles?

Cheers Shami

Litecoin and Bitcoin Cash are what we call Ghost Chains. Meaning people used to use them, and they are only around since they have been popular for a long time. Over time people will abandon them.
The founder of Litecoin, Charlie Lee, literally dumped all his Litecoin in 2017, and literally there's only 1 person as the developer for the entire project.

This will explain everything:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUgl31LJt0

I think a lot of these top Ghost Chain coins will do fine this bull run, just sell into Bitcoin if the Market Capitalization of Bitcoin drops below 50%.
BOOKMARK THIS
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/CRYPTOCAP-BTC.D/



Another thing:
Dogecoin is a wildcard that I think will be around forever since it's simply a really funny joke that never dies.
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dogecoin

Half Sense
6th January 2021, 04:46 AM
I guess these have been answered before, but what happens when there are no more BTC to mine? One of the criticisms of gold is the supply doesn't expand fast enough. But soon BTC supply will not expand at all. Does the price rise exponentially because it's the only "real" crypto? Do the miners just create a new coin to mine? If so, where does that leave BTC?

And what happens when China starts doing international trade in CCP issued ChinaCoin? Wouldn't the Hodlers dump BTC for the coin that can actually buy stuff? What happens when your welfare or soc sec check arrives as FedCoin?

ziero0
6th January 2021, 05:15 AM
Once upon a time a farmer plowing turned over an urn. On polishing it a Jin popped out and he was offered three wishes but permitted only one a year.

Pressed for the first wish the best he could ask was a complete line of new farm machinery. PRESTO... it appeared.

Next year the Jin appeared and the farmer was better prepared. He asked for a market price of $10 corn and $20 beans. ZAP ... it was done.

Another year passed. The Jin appeared and the farmer again asked for $10 corn and $20 beans. The Jin looked confused. "I gave you this wish last year" to which the farmer replied "yes you did but this year I am going to sell."

Shami-Amourae
6th January 2021, 05:42 AM
I guess these have been answered before, but what happens when there are no more BTC to mine? One of the criticisms of gold is the supply doesn't expand fast enough. But soon BTC supply will not expand at all. Does the price rise exponentially because it's the only "real" crypto? Do the miners just create a new coin to mine? If so, where does that leave BTC?


Transaction fees alone should be enough to suffice at that point, but it will likely happen in 2140 which is long long off.


And what happens when China starts doing international trade in CCP issued ChinaCoin? Wouldn't the Hodlers dump BTC for the coin that can actually buy stuff? What happens when your welfare or soc sec check arrives as FedCoin?

Those aren't cryptocurrencies. Those are just centralized digital currencies. It's just fiat with another coating of paint. The US Dollar is that right now, they just want to relaunch the Dollar and eliminate cash at the same time.

EE_
6th January 2021, 05:52 AM
OCC Just Castrated Bitcoin's Value

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-01-05/occ-just-castrated-bitcoins-value