Lumber prices, wow!

[EE_]

2020 to 2021
https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2021-05-09_10-18-05_0.png?itok=2EhS3ngi

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/visualizing-what-50k-lumber-can-build-today-versus-last-year

[ImaCannin]

6 days ago Lowe’s had 1/2” OSB 4 x8 sheets for a mere 49.95.
That is up from 7.00 a year ago.

[osoab]

Heard from another.

A builder in NC (on the east coast definitely) their supplier is getting quotes for 1/2 OSB @ 70 frns per sheet. That is supplier cost.

[ziero0]

Isn't this why you stuck money into silver? To combat higher prices?

[woodman]

I have somewhere around 150 sheets of 1/2" plywood. Maybe it is time to sell some. I have around 2000 sq ft of tongue and grooved maple flooring. I wonder what it is worth.

[Shami-Amourae]

At the current rate it will be cheaper to build houses out of Gold, since Gold is locked at $1700 in an inflationary environment.

Commodity prices over last year...
Lumber: +265%
WTI Crude: +210%
Gasoline: +182%
Brent Crude +163%
Heating Oil: +107%
Corn: +84%
Copper: +83%
Soybeans: +72%
Silver: +65%
Sugar: +59%
Cotton: +54%
Platinum: +52%
Natural Gas: +43%
Palladium: +32%
Wheat: +19%
Coffee: +13%
Gold: +3%

Never take financial advice from Boomers.
Gold hasn't kept up with inflation in over 10 years!!!


Just a tip from a Millennial: Put a picture of a Shiba Inu on your Gold coins, and MAYBE they will have value.
;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=000al7ru3ms
↑Better inflation hedge than Gold.↑

[EE_]

At the current rate it will be cheaper to build houses out of Gold, since Gold is locked at $1700 in an inflationary environment.

Commodity prices over last year...
Lumber: +265%
WTI Crude: +210%
Gasoline: +182%
Brent Crude +163%
Heating Oil: +107%
Corn: +84%
Copper: +83%
Soybeans: +72%
Silver: +65%
Sugar: +59%
Cotton: +54%
Platinum: +52%
Natural Gas: +43%
Palladium: +32%
Wheat: +19%
Coffee: +13%
Gold: +3%

Never take financial advice from Boomers.
Gold hasn't kept up with inflation in over 10 years!!!


Just a tip from a Millennial: Put a picture of a Shiba Inu on your Gold coins, and MAYBE they will have value.
;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=000al7ru3ms
↑Better inflation hedge than Gold.↑

None of those thing on the list are storable except precious metals. When I started buying on May 10, 2004 gold was $375 and silver $5.51 an ounce. They have gone up 500% since then, so not a total bad bet on something you can hold in your hand.

[keehah]

Put a picture of a Shiba Inu on your Gold coins, and MAYBE they will have value.
;)


Thats what Dodgecoin (and Bitcoin) branding and advertising did!

[PatColo]

heh, Really Graceful did a vid on lumber prices today... not her usual style of vids!

8m 24s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQjwvUHGvKk

[PatColo]

As Wood Prices Surge 400%, Hemp Homes Are Cheaper, More Efficient, and CO2 Negative
(http://www.renegadetribune.com/as-wood-prices-surge-400-hemp-homes-are-cheaper-more-efficient-and-co2-negative/)
June 2, 2021 (http://www.renegadetribune.com/as-wood-prices-surge-400-hemp-homes-are-cheaper-more-efficient-and-co2-negative/) renegade (http://www.renegadetribune.com/author/renegade/) 0 Comments (http://www.renegadetribune.com/as-wood-prices-surge-400-hemp-homes-are-cheaper-more-efficient-and-co2-negative/#respond)

Renegade Editor’s Note: The whole “reduce your carbon footprint” movement is a PsyOp, but that does not change the fact that hempcrete is awesome.

By Matt Agorist (https://thefreethoughtproject.com/wood-prices-skyrocket-hemp-gets-renewed-attention/)

This time last year, the price of lumber was $300 per thousand board feet. In only a year, the price has shot up over 400% to $1,686 for the same amount. According to the National Association of Home Builders (https://www.nahb.org/), the surge in lumber prices has added nearly $39,000 to the price of an average new single-family new build home and about $13,000 to a multi-family home.

moar http://www.renegadetribune.com/as-wood-prices-surge-400-hemp-homes-are-cheaper-more-efficient-and-co2-negative/

^ me thinks they mean > 500%, yes?

& re "$39,000 to the price of an average new single-family new build home and about $13,000 to a multi-family home", aren't "multi-family" homes bigger than single-fam? :(??

[PatColo]

Jim Stone: http://82.221.129.208/.um4.html

Lumber prices in Mexico -

There is once again a huge ruckus in the U.S. over lumber prices. I specifically went to Home Depot to photograph prices on Tuesday but held off on posting them. They are on the Huawei phone I don't want to turn on (by the way, the ZTE is going to India and the Huawei is going to Russia - that's who I decided on - another topic - ANYWAY -

A stud grade 2X4 is $4.00 A 3X3 fence post is $5.00 A furniture grade 1X2 is $1.50. The blue phenolic plywood at 3/4 inch is about $35 a sheet (a little less) maybe $33.50 (it was more than 600 pesos but less than 700) Surprisingly, that OSB chip board that's a cheap pile of crap in 5/8 is $20 a sheet, (ridiculous) and the most expensive plywood was 1 inch with a furniture grade side and it was about $60 a sheet.

MDF was available in various thicknesses and I have tested this - it was the good stuff that can get rained on and not dissolve - that was approximatley 7 a sheet for 3 millimeter and $10 a sheet for 1/4 inch. A while ago I got 5/8 inch formica particle board for $10 a sheet (during the crisis but earlier) now it is $20. That stuff explodes instantly at first contact with water with it's life preserved only by the formica.

Treated lumber: Treated lumber is more expensive. It starts at about $7 for a 2x4 and goes up to $35 for something like a 2X10X12. A nice 1X12X10 (those were nice) cost about $17.

Screws are still as cheap as they ever were. The cheap DAP caulk is $2.10 a tube. 100 percent silicone caulk is approximately $3 a tube. 175 feet of single conductor 12 guage THHW all copper wire is around $20 a roll in the brand IUSA. If you want the shitty copper coated aluminum stuff you can get 300 feet in 10 guage for $20 and that's not at Home Depot. I did not check romex because it is not popular in Mexico.

So, that's it for that. Those prices are from Tuesday. They are higher than they were, but not exploded, I'd say the prices in Mex overall went up about 35 percent. Mex was higher to begin with but did not go up so much.

If the prices I listed are not fairly consistent with what is going on in the U.S., you are being ripped off because that lumber comes from the United States.

If anyone wants to come down to Mexico for those prices (I actually don't know how those prices stand up but I think they are substantially better) try to contact me first via E-mail and I will shoot and post a video of Home Depot's lumber section so you can make a better decision, and not a possible mistake.

[hoarder]

There's tons of lumber stacked at the mills along with raw logs stacked 3 stories high for thousands of yards. Just before the USFS loosened it's logging regulations, a handful of large mills bought out most of the smaller struggling ones. Such clever timing suggests foreknowledge.
It has little to do with demand.
Antifa. BLM generated White flight. The lumber crisis is simply a tax on White flight.

[PatColo]

Jim Stone on rising home prices; anon outsiders buying houses unseen paying way over 'market/asking' prices...
http://82.221.129.208/.um4.html


Most likely the trillion dollar "Covid bailouts" are being used to buy real estate

If you receive a phone call from a realtor offering far above market value for your house, DO NOT ACCEPT because you will not get another one.

Word on the street (every American street) is that homes are selling for far above market value, instantly, cash paid. And it is ALWAYS outsiders buying the homes and never anyoene local. How can it always be people outside the community buying the homes? How can it always be that they are selling above market value? EASY ANSWER: The bailout money - the lions share that did not go to the American people - is being used by whoever received it to buy up the homes in preparation for the "great reset" where "no one owns anything" and we are all slaves.

Think about it - the market is not realistic. Someone is doing this on purpose to corner the entire market and get the homes off the market. If you have a home and are made a big offer, DO NOT SELL, it is a trap and word on the street is that people are accepting call-in offers on their home - realtors are cold calling people and offering HUGE sums of money for their homes that look GREAT so they sell, only to discover they can't buy anything once it is sold because they can't compete with people who have been handed trillions to swipe houses off the market.


So they say no one has money because they can't work or won't work because the corona con job destroyed the economy. And at THIS TIME houses are selling for far above market value? Someone is screwing everyone over if that's the case. Houses should be cheaper than ever absent someone pulling a leveraged and assisted scam on society.

[Tumbleweed]

I spoke with a fellow that has a propane business a couple of weeks ago. He says their are several new, large housing developments in our area and the homes are already sold. He'd been talking to a real estate salesman and the salesman said there are bidding wars for any homes that come up for sale. He said they can get thirty or forty calls when a home is put on the market and they sell with in hours.

The people buying the homes are thought to be generally conservative and wanting to get out of the states they are living in because of the lock downs. They like our governor and want to move here. They are selling high dollar homes where they presently live and have plenty of money to relocate. Some are retiring and others have found they can do their work over the internet. The worry is that there will be too many liberals move in and turn this in to a communist state.

[PatColo]

They like our governor and want to move here.

on a side note, saw this this morning, re "anti-vaxx-passport" TX gov'r Abbott,

DECEPTION: Abbott’s Vaccine Passport Ban Only Prevents State Contractors From Requiring Them, He’s ‘Just Lying’ (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/) (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/)Abbott continues to mislead his constituents about COVID-19 passports, even as other states take the actions he refuses by Tom Pappert (https://nationalfile.com/author/tompappert/)
June 8, 2021 (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/)

[Tumbleweed]

on a side note, saw this this morning, re "anti-vaxx-passport" TX gov'r Abbott,

DECEPTION: Abbott’s Vaccine Passport Ban Only Prevents State Contractors From Requiring Them, He’s ‘Just Lying’ (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/)

Abbott continues to mislead his constituents about COVID-19 passports, even as other states take the actions he refuses

by Tom Pappert (https://nationalfile.com/author/tompappert/)
June 8, 2021 (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/)



https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2021/04/21/kristi-noem-bans-government-instituted-vaccine-passports/7317632002/


Gov. Kristi Noem announced an executive order Wednesday banning governments in the state from issuing so-called COVID-19 vaccine passports in South Dakota.


“Since the start of the COVID pandemic, we have provided the people of South Dakota with up-to-date science, facts and data and then trusted them to exercise their personal responsibility to make the best decisions for themselves and their loved-ones,” she said in a statement. “We’ve resisted government mandates, and our state is stronger for it."


Noem joins a group of other governors who have opposed vaccine passports. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order earlier this month prohibiting governments in Florida from issuing passports and forbidding businesses from requiring them. DeSantis is also a Republican.

[woodman]

Noem joins a group of other governors who have opposed vaccine passports. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order earlier this month prohibiting governments in Florida from issuing passports and forbidding businesses from requiring them. DeSantis is also a Republican.
What worries me is the thought that these governors who seem so decent and individual freedom minded, will somehow turn 'Dog' on us. Maybe the only reason they are so sensible and decent is that they don't have any 'dirt' on them and therefor they have a measure of autonomy from the Beast System. That could change in a heartbeat.

[osoab]

https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2021/04/21/kristi-noem-bans-government-instituted-vaccine-passports/7317632002/


Gov. Kristi Noem announced an executive order Wednesday banning governments in the state from issuing so-called COVID-19 vaccine passports in South Dakota.


“Since the start of the COVID pandemic, we have provided the people of South Dakota with up-to-date science, facts and data and then trusted them to exercise their personal responsibility to make the best decisions for themselves and their loved-ones,” she said in a statement. “We’ve resisted government mandates, and our state is stronger for it."


Noem joins a group of other governors who have opposed vaccine passports. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order earlier this month prohibiting governments in Florida from issuing passports and forbidding businesses from requiring them. DeSantis is also a Republican.

Is she still letting the feds dump illegals in the state?

[osoab]

on a side note, saw this this morning, re "anti-vaxx-passport" TX gov'r Abbott,

DECEPTION: Abbott’s Vaccine Passport Ban Only Prevents State Contractors From Requiring Them, He’s ‘Just Lying’ (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/)

Abbott continues to mislead his constituents about COVID-19 passports, even as other states take the actions he refuses

by Tom Pappert (https://nationalfile.com/author/tompappert/)
June 8, 2021 (https://nationalfile.com/deception-abbotts-vaccine-passport-ban-only-prevents-state-contractors-from-requiring-them-hes-just-lying/)

Ovey

[osoab]

I spoke with a fellow that has a propane business a couple of weeks ago. He says their are several new, large housing developments in our area and the homes are already sold. He'd been talking to a real estate salesman and the salesman said there are bidding wars for any homes that come up for sale. He said they can get thirty or forty calls when a home is put on the market and they sell with in hours.

The people buying the homes are thought to be generally conservative and wanting to get out of the states they are living in because of the lock downs. They like our governor and want to move here. They are selling high dollar homes where they presently live and have plenty of money to relocate. Some are retiring and others have found they can do their work over the internet. The worry is that there will be too many liberals move in and turn this in to a communist state.


The tabulators have the voting covered.

[Tumbleweed]

Is she still letting the feds dump illegals in the state?

Probably because I see more Mexicans all the time.

[Tumbleweed]

Christy Noem is also pro gun and that's another reason people are wanting to come to the state.


https://www.aberdeennews.com/story/opinion/columns/2021/04/09/noem-second-amendment-rights-cannot-be-infringed/43730785/


Noem: Second Amendment rights cannot be infringed

The Constitution doesn’t always use plain language, but when it comes to our right to defend ourselves, the Second Amendment is quite straightforward: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”


It’s often been said that the Second Amendment exists to defend all the rest, including the first. I couldn’t agree more. That’s why the very first bill that I signed as governor was constitutional carry, which guarantees the right of every law-abiding South Dakotan to keep and bear arms.


I love hunting with my family. My Grandma Dorris taught me how to bird hunt, and to this day my favorite way to decompress is to hunt big game with my brothers. The Second Amendment guarantees our ability to hunt, but it’s so much more important than that. Government exists to protect our rights, but that doesn’t preclude us from protecting ourselves and our loved ones. In fact, our founders intended the Second Amendment to include protection from a tyrannical government. That’s why they took up arms against Great Britain in the first place.


Unfortunately, many politicians seem determined to directly infringe on our right to bear arms, despite the Second Amendment’s clear wording that it “shall not be infringed.”


President Biden recently announced several executive actions regarding gun control. He claimed that these actions wouldn’t infringe on the Second Amendment. But that’s false.


President Biden’s actions include a red flag order. Such laws can be used to take away guns from a law-abiding citizen. They deprive individuals of both their liberty and property rights. And they aren’t just an infringement on the Second Amendment, they’re also a violation of both our Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure and our Fifth Amendment right to due process.


President Biden is also proposing new limits on firearm sales and ammunition purchases. But these, too, are infringements on the Second Amendment. What good is the right to keep and bear arms if you can’t first purchase them? What good is the right to keep and bear arms if you can’t buy ammo to load them? Why would we want to limit ammo purchases when we’re in the midst of a nationwide ammo shortage specifically because of the threat of gun control?


To top it off, President Biden indicated that his executive orders don’t go far enough, and he called on Congress to further infringe on the Second Amendment. In response to such threats to our rights, I promise that South Dakota will do everything in our power to defend your right to defend yourself and your loved-ones.


“Shall not be infringed” could not be any plainer. If only President Biden could be forthcoming and realize that his actions are a direct infringement on our right to keep and bear arms.

[ImaCannin]

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