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Cebu_4_2
24th June 2021, 03:17 PM
Another FF attack, audit's getting closer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKvleU22e-k

JDRock
24th June 2021, 05:55 PM
any izzraelli "art students" there to document the event? Asking for a friend...

Down1
30th June 2021, 03:53 PM
any izzraelli "art students" there to document the event? Asking for a friend...

Worse.
The IDF is there


Why is the IDF on the Scene of the Disaster in Miami?
June 30, 2021 renegade 18 Comments

Does the United States not have enough rescue workers that we need to have benevolent jewish supremacists come in to help us inept goyim? This appears to be normalizing israelis acting in an official capacity on American soil. Perhaps they are also there to cover up evidence.
http://www.renegadetribune.com/why-is-the-idf-on-the-scene-of-the-disaster-in-miami/

JDRock
30th June 2021, 07:30 PM
there is video of active idf forces on site! Pheck mee!

JDRock
30th June 2021, 07:57 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/u2J6l7fg2hQ3/

PatColo
1st July 2021, 12:35 AM
Listening to Rense/Donald Jeffries from last Mon -- I guess McAfee tweeted something on June 7 saying if anything happened to him, dead man's switch at... and then he gave the address of that FL building where I gather he owned a condo? :(??

all 3 hrs: MONDAY 2021.06.28

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JDRock
1st July 2021, 07:34 AM
did u see that bitchute vid?? IDF ON THE SCENE ON FILM.

Tumbleweed
1st July 2021, 11:41 AM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/u2J6l7fg2hQ3/

Lots of good comments below that video.

JDRock
1st July 2021, 03:23 PM
Worse.
The IDF is there

http://www.renegadetribune.com/why-is-the-idf-on-the-scene-of-the-disaster-in-miami/ sry, i did t see your link..

Cebu_4_2
2nd July 2021, 12:38 PM
I don't see many (if any) mention of McAffees servers being in that building. McAffee even posted that address of where he his 32 TB of info on the deep state. Probably all his cryptos are gone too.

PatColo
2nd July 2021, 06:54 PM
don't miss this'n https://gab.com/MuhRona/posts/106514073694688190

IDF Heads To Miami

Jim Fetzer First published at 08:36 UTC on July 2nd, 2021
16m: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Kei14koa3dfi/

@JimFetzer (https://gab.com/JimFetzer) comments: Great compiled media coverage and commentary on the aftermath of the Miami Condo "collapse," which has so many suspicious elements that it's no longer logical to call it an "accidental structural collapse." And NOW a team from the IDF is coming to "help with the cleanup"????? -- yeah, RIGHT!

midnight rambler
2nd July 2021, 08:42 PM
I'm just not buying this was an intentional building demolition. For one thing a guy (who was out of town) was talking to his wife (who died in the incident) on the phone as it was happening. She told him the building was shaking and when she looked outside from her 3rd floor balcony there was already a huge sink hole in the pool deck (video below was taken 7-8 minutes before collapse). No reports of explosions to account for sink hole in pool deck prior to ultimate structural failure of building. Also there are numerous accounts from those inspecting the building going back 25 years of how there was structural concrete spalling with exposed rebar. I'm no engineer but I know enough that if rebar is exposed in structural concrete that's spalling then those components are definitely compromised. 13 story building = a lot of weight on compromised structural members.

Note in this video that debris was already piled up -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngyKmBjIZig

keehah
3rd July 2021, 09:35 AM
Seems like a legit theory.

Initial collapse of the underground parking area outside of the building tower (corrosion leading to punch through pillars) pulled sideways and caused failure of the first building pillars and wall.
Also surveillance collapse video and debris pile seems to show cheap pillar and wall construction that allowed major building segments of floor-ceiling slabs to get pulled down once part started falling.

SURFSIDE COLLAPSE - sequence simulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hynHiWE818c
2:24

JDRock
3rd July 2021, 03:53 PM
just like 911 all these "scientific" facts and NOT A PEEP about a foreign army that ​just happened to be there...

midnight rambler
3rd July 2021, 04:11 PM
just like 911 all these "scientific" facts and NOT A PEEP about a foreign army that ​just happened to be there...

I think the tribe showing up is strictly a PR move. Old decrepit, poorly maintained building fell because, well, it was old, decrepit, and poorly maintained.

JDRock
3rd July 2021, 04:36 PM
I think the tribe showing up is strictly a PR move. Old decrepit, poorly maintained building fell because, well, it was old, decrepit, and poorly maintained.
Dont post on this subject until u have read his take on this jimstone.is

midnight rambler
3rd July 2021, 04:56 PM
Was Jim Stone there when the building fell?? Is Jim Stone an engineer?? Is Jim Stone fully up to speed on the DOCUMENTED condition of the building going back 25 years?? Was Jim Stone even aware this building existed before it fell??

I’ll make a wild ass guess that the answers to all those questions is a “No.” Therefore I submit Jim Stone is absolutely full of shit with regard to his theories SPECULATING on the catastrophic structural failure of this 40 year old decrepit poorly maintained 13 story building.

midnight rambler
3rd July 2021, 05:04 PM
Here’s a video from someone who actually knows WTF he’s talking about relative to the catastrophic structural failure of this 40 year old building -


https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZUrHdwdZyWc

One can clearly see in the pile of rubble the columns which punched through the pool deck.

Cebu_4_2
4th July 2021, 11:23 AM
FLORIDA MCAFEE SERVERS ET AL BUILDING COLLAPSE 8777 COLLINS AVE. CONTROLLED DEMO



https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/




https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/

JDRock
4th July 2021, 03:48 PM
Here’s a video from someone who actually knows WTF he’s talking about relative to the catastrophic structural failure of this 40 year old building -


https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZUrHdwdZyWc

One can clearly see in the pile of rubble the columns which punched through the pool deck.
Arrity then, believe the "official story" as presented by the kyke media... your lack of accurate research reflects in your posting FFS read the links pat colo myself and cebu posted your looking foolish.

midnight rambler
4th July 2021, 04:25 PM
MY lack of accurate research?? Get a grip. You do realize that that building was right on the coast, right? That means about as harsh of a marine environment as there is, and that means 40 years of salt water air and sea water exposure. The structural engineer's report from 2018 noted the extensive spalling of the concrete and the exposed rebar. The engineer also noted at that time in 2018 the failed waterproofing on the pool deck and that the pool deck was dead level requiring remediation by building a grade in the pool deck so that it would drain water before applying new waterproofing. There was a LONG history of that building getting salt water intrusion into the parking garage with up to two feet of water accumulating in the entire garage (cars were floating) during high tides and king tides (anyone who has or has lived in beachfront property is familiar with this). They kept wearing out water pumps pumping out the garage. The building was poorly maintained and this one 9 minute video sums it up nicely, includes interview with former maintenance staff who worked there for five years in late '90s -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh7cnY7PkLU

Again, MY lack of research?? You've got nothing but speculation from people who have zero experience and expertise. It appears you WANT to believe in nonsense.

ETA: anyone who has ever dealt with a condo owner's association knows this well - ALL decisions are made by a committee of condo owners who have ZERO(!) experience in construction or ANYTHING to do with building maintenance. The ONLY(!) thing the condo owners are interested in is either not spending the money, deferring necessary repairs as long as possible, and/or taking the lowest bid they can find (meaning they keep shopping for a low bid contractor until they get a too good to be true number).

midnight rambler
4th July 2021, 05:05 PM
A city building inspector was on the roof of the collapsed building only 14 hours before the collapse inspecting the installation of anchor points for window washers which had been ongoing for several days. These would be some serious anchors going into the structural concrete roof deck. Serious masonry anchors require serious holes (large diameter as in holes that are at least 5/8" in diameter) in concrete, and serious holes are made by very serious masonry drills which reverberate through the entire structure. No doubt everyone in the building could hear that masonry drill, even those on the first floor. Considering the timing I'm theorizing that the vibrations from the masonry drilling on the roof accelerated the concrete/rebar bond degradation being literally the straw that made it break.

keehah
4th July 2021, 06:17 PM
A city building inspector was on the roof of the collapsed building only 14 hours before the collapse inspecting the installation of anchor points for window washers which had been ongoing for several days.

That explains a report I watched that mentioned surviving resident saying 'loud pounding' being heard and felt throughout the building in the weeks prior.

Cebu_4_2
4th July 2021, 08:13 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/

Apparently that was where McAfee's servers were located.

midnight rambler
4th July 2021, 09:26 PM
FLORIDA MCAFEE SERVERS ET AL BUILDING COLLAPSE 8777 COLLINS AVE. CONTROLLED DEMO



https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/




https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/


https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/

Apparently that was where McAfee's servers were located.

You've got nothing.

midnight rambler
5th July 2021, 03:12 PM
An engineer onsite has spoken out about how it appears that the structural steel installation in the garage was substandard (not as many pieces as called for by the architect) but further investigation is necessary before coming to that conclusion.

JDRock
5th July 2021, 06:50 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVjjMQk5KljQ/

Apparently that was where McAfee's servers were located. NEVERMIND THAT! midnight and the IDF say everythings fine! FFS SMH.

JDRock
5th July 2021, 06:51 PM
An engineer onsite has spoken out about how it appears that the structural steel installation in the garage was substandard (not as many pieces as called for by the architect) but further investigation is necessary before coming to that conclusion. the official story on 911 says the engineers all agree with the official story SMH.

midnight rambler
5th July 2021, 07:35 PM
You've got NOTHING as well.

midnight rambler
5th July 2021, 08:16 PM
Ok genius, explain this relying on your 'accurate research' - to bring down that building would require several dozen blocks of C4, perhaps a few hundred, and HUNDREDS of yards of det cord to make it happen. Fucking det cord would be all over the place! C4 in shaped charges would be noticeable EVERYWHERE and det cord would be running up the stairwells and elevator shafts, up and down the hallways and in and out of condos. Like no condo owner is going to notice blocks of C4 all connected with fucking det cord running through the hallways, in the stairwells, and in and out of condos nor the personnel doing all the prep work to place the charges and det cord?? ???

FYI the velocity of det cord is 23,000 to 26,000 feet per second (det cord explodes it doesn't burn like a fuse). The velocity of C4 is 26,550 f/s so the velocity of det cord and C4 are very close. Note that in any building implosion the charges don't all go off at the same time which means there are independent trunklines of det cord that are set off according to the timing plan the demolition company came up with. Additionally, a sufficient number of C4 charges are used to make absolutely positively sure the demolition is successful. There's no shortage of examples of failed demolitions where they did not successfully fully bring down a structure or it fell the wrong way because of poor planning, inadequate prep, not using enough charges, etc. So successfully bringing down the building with explosives without a couple of hundred potential witnesses noticing what's going on is about as impossible as it gets. If one's intent is to bring the building down covertly and yet the building doesn't fall that would be a problem for the instigator.

What det cord looks like -

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=det+cord&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=det+cord&sc=8-8&cvid=CB1ECBC238EC4581A40682C89BF1EA69&first=1&tsc=ImageHoverTitle

What C4 shaped charges look like -

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=c4+shaped+charge&qs=AS&form=QBIRMH&sp=1&ghc=1&pq=c4+shaped&sc=6-9&cvid=0DB4AE18FC62492FACFD4899B9110392&first=1&tsc=ImageHoverTitle

And yet NO ONE is going to notice all that shit, right?

Cebu_4_2
5th July 2021, 11:37 PM
McAfees servers were supposed to reside there.

ziero0
6th July 2021, 06:53 AM
Isn't it lucky they didn't nuke Miami rather than just leveling a building?

You can store enough info on a thumb drive to take down all the governments in the world (should you be unlucky enough to even possess this information). Thumb drives don't really testify well. At least, not like servers.

JDRock
6th July 2021, 09:28 AM
When did I say c4? Or explosives? ffs you cant even read MY posts accurately.
Ok, so we get your synopsis: joo media is telling the truth, the IDF was on site to "help" and CNNs version of the story is correct- GOT IT. smh

midnight rambler
6th July 2021, 09:46 AM
If not C4 to bring the building down what are you suggesting? DEW? There's zero evidence to support this and overwhelming evidence that a catastrophic structural failure occurred as a result of neglected maintenance. ALL evidence indicates a 40 year old building with a long history of issues of little to no maintenance where it mattered (spalling concrete and exposed rebar* finally fell.

This Jim Crenshaw guy is all FUBARed in his thinking as well, he's trying to say this video of the controlled demolition is actually the original collapse. One can VERY CLEARLY see the shaped charges going off in this video, THIS is how it's successfully done.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5suV5c7ro5NN/

Another view where charges can be seen -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3psHAtUghE

NO ONE has come forward ANYWHERE claiming they heard explosions during the original collapse when we KNOW that the party of tourists at the pool across the street actually heard the beginnings of the collapse so they captured what they saw on video (the pile of debris in the garage and the water pouring out of the ceiling). The tourists captured the initial collapse 8 minutes before the building fell.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g1sNRSOz44

And if all THAT is not enough, how about a personal first hand account from someone who was on the phone with her husband when she died in the collapse? No mention of explosions, just "the ground is shaking." Surely if she had heard explosions she would have mentioned that but she didn't.

https://meaww.com/champlain-towers-surfside-condo-miami-collapse-cassie-stratton-missing-woman-blood-curdling-scream

JDRock
7th July 2021, 08:10 AM
So, the "official story" as propagandized by the joo media is, according to midnight ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL, and the IDF just HAPPENED TO BE THERE TO HELP, from the goodness of their hearts, also according to midnight...ffs I wish Book were here to see this SPH.

Cebu_4_2
7th July 2021, 10:00 AM
If not C4 to bring the building down what are you suggesting? DEW? There's zero evidence to support this and overwhelming evidence that a catastrophic structural failure occurred as a result of neglected maintenance. ALL evidence indicates a 40 year old building with a long history of issues of little to no maintenance where it mattered (spalling concrete and exposed rebar* finally fell.

This Jim Crenshaw guy is all FUBARed in his thinking as well, he's trying to say this video of the controlled demolition is actually the original collapse. One can VERY CLEARLY see the shaped charges going off in this video, THIS is how it's successfully done.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5suV5c7ro5NN/

Another view where charges can be seen -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3psHAtUghE

NO ONE has come forward ANYWHERE claiming they heard explosions during the original collapse when we KNOW that the party of tourists at the pool across the street actually heard the beginnings of the collapse so they captured what they saw on video (the pile of debris in the garage and the water pouring out of the ceiling). The tourists captured the initial collapse 8 minutes before the building fell.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g1sNRSOz44

And if all THAT is not enough, how about a personal first hand account from someone who was on the phone with her husband when she died in the collapse? No mention of explosions, just "the ground is shaking." Surely if she had heard explosions she would have mentioned that but she didn't.

https://meaww.com/champlain-towers-surfside-condo-miami-collapse-cassie-stratton-missing-woman-blood-curdling-scream

2nd video you can see the support columns have been busted and on the floor.

midnight rambler
7th July 2021, 11:57 AM
2nd video you can see the support columns have been busted and on the floor.

That is the area where the three columns punched threw the pool deck at the very beginning of the collapse, those three columns are still standing.

midnight rambler
15th July 2021, 06:25 PM
This guy makes one of the most cogent conclusions I've seen so far so to why the catastrophic failure. Anyone with common sense and and an OBJECTIVE perspective will get it -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbuUZWM6bdA

JDRock
15th July 2021, 06:35 PM
I dont want another video. I dont want the opinion of "experts" , we had all that on 911&okc. What I want is a REASON WHY THE PHEKING IDF was on site. To me, nothing else matters.

midnight rambler
15th July 2021, 06:47 PM
we had all that on 911&okc. What I want is a REASON WHY THE PHEKING IDF was on site. To me, nothing else matters.

So following your line of reasoning the Tribe showed up in Haiti because THEY caused the earthquake and not because it was a PR stunt. Got it.


I dont want another video.

TRANSLATION: TMI! TMI! My mind is made up!



I dont want the opinion of "experts"

Yeah, we get it, you're much smarter than licensed engineers.

midnight rambler
15th July 2021, 06:56 PM
This video of the 911 calls establishes a good timeline. By numerous accounts the garage roof/pool deck cratered first, a very good photo of the columns which punched through the deck can clearly be seen at 16:08 and starting at 15:04 one can clearly see where the rebar ripped out of the pool deck.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPebsXiFX6Q

So...what exactly brought this building down if not a catastrophic structural failure caused by substandard rebar not to spec(?)/poor maintenance/a lack of competent monitoring of the structure/40 years of exposure to marine environment/sea water intruding into the parking garage to the degree that cars would be seen floating on some occasions.

JDRock
15th July 2021, 07:12 PM
So following your line of reasoning the Tribe showed up in Haiti because THEY caused the earthquake and not because it was a PR stunt. Got it.


TRANSLATION: TMI! TMI! My mind is made up!




Yeah, we get it, you're much smarter than licensed engineers. Every single point you have made is exactly the propaganda the gov used on 911. But dont worry, dodge the pertinent question, deflect via ad hominem attacks and rely on "experts". Thats a winning formula! SMH

Cebu_4_2
16th July 2021, 03:01 AM
Comments:

"Errr...We have Just Arrived and
have Started Working and We are About to Start to get Situated.We
Will Do Our Best...

"We have Brought Our BEST People
Here...Engineers, First Responders, Search and Rescue, POPULATION
BEHAVIOUR!

And I Hope that We Will
Succeed..........to Help...........Your People.......Your GREAT
People..Here.... Erm...S'amazing Operation...They Got Here....

And We are Here With Your People...to
Sleep with Them to Eat with Them...to Live with Them...Through
the next Few Days...

Till We - You Will Understand that We
Achieve Something Meaningful..."

"Yeah Yeah"

It's a Very Complicated Difficult,
Difficult...It's a Difficult Site...We Call it Site in
Is-Ra-El.Wiz a Pancake..Very Tight..But..We Saw...We Saw it
Before...Erm...Thousand Mile from Here...Err 10 Years
Ago...I Found a Man..In the Same Place Alive in HAITI!In 2010 we
saved him...he was 64 he was name was (Gilles France?) And we
Hope for Another Some Kind of Situations...Yeah..There is Always
Hope...

No God is Not Promised Succeed..He
Obeys... You To Make Your Efforts...And We are Here to Make His
Those Efforts

We've Seen a Very Complicated
Place...Very Complicated Site...But there is Still Hope Always...And
I Hope that We Will SucceedWe Have to Be Prepared to All Various
Results...(at 2.00 min in Yellow Jacket Taps him on back to
Leave)And Err...OK"

Who is this Minion Now?Lots'a
HOPIUM Talk but Suspicious as Usual.How come he/They can be
Spared from the Full Blown WAR They are Committing in
Gaza?Voldemorts only 5% of the world and 100% at the Root of
De-stabilisation and False Flags/War/Banking Theft.

Multi-Purposed Agenda happening
here.Benevolence is NOT part of Their DNA, Something is Afoot
Again.

Hampers and Elbows out the Goyim and
Inserting the Mossad and Furthering the Cabaal Plan into the
Equation!!!

False Flag Sacrifice and COVER UP!

ORDER OUT OF CHAOS

cheka.
16th July 2021, 04:43 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article252787198.html

Panicked Surfside 911 calls show clearer timeline of collapse, suggest possible explosion

Minutes before the Champlain Towers South condo partially collapsed in the early hours of June 24, people reported an “explosion” in the garage of the building, according to just-released recordings of emergency calls to Miami-Dade police and fire rescue.

midnight rambler
16th July 2021, 05:53 PM
Y’all keep referencing some sort of planned demolition but you’ve got NOTHING!!!

According to the 911 callers as many called it an earthquake as called it an explosion.

JDRock
16th July 2021, 06:14 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article252787198.html

Panicked Surfside 911 calls show clearer timeline of collapse, suggest possible explosion

Minutes before the Champlain Towers South condo partially collapsed in the early hours of June 24, people reported an “explosion” in the garage of the building, according to just-released recordings of emergency calls to Miami-Dade police and fire rescue. Maybe you have a theory as to WHY the IDF was on site so fast...?

woodman
16th July 2021, 06:48 PM
That latest video really was quite clear. It looked like a demo job to me; but what do I know. Collapsed in it's own footprint perfectly. Too bad Danny Jowenko isn't here to chime in. Any demo experts such as he was, now know better than to chime in.

midnight rambler
16th July 2021, 07:12 PM
That latest video really was quite clear. It looked like a demo job to me; but what do I know. Collapsed in it's own footprint perfectly. Too bad Danny Jowenko isn't here to chime in. Any demo experts such as he was, now know better than to chime in.

Are you referring to that clip of the controlled demolition of the part of the building that was brought down over a week after the catastrophic structural failure that Max Igan completely misrepresented?

midnight rambler
16th July 2021, 07:30 PM
Gee, do ya think that the Champlain Tower sinking at least two inches on a beach over the course of 25 years could have been a problem?

The sink rate was calculated at 2mm/year so over the course of 40 years that would amounted to just over three inches.

woodman
16th July 2021, 07:42 PM
Are you referring to that clip of the controlled demolition of the part of the building that was brought down over a week after the catastrophic structural failure that Max Igan completely misrepresented?

Maybe I am. Did Max post some bullshit?

midnight rambler
16th July 2021, 07:55 PM
Maybe I am. Did Max post some bullshit?

TOTAL bullshit at 36:37 where he claims that particular clip (CLEARLY the controlled demolition AFTER the structural failure, there are many sources showing this exact perspective of the controlled demolition more than a week after the building fell) was the initial collapse.

https://www.technocracy.news/who-creating-digital-wallet-to-store-vaccination-certifications/

AFAIK there is only ONE video showing the initial collapse, and that is from a CCTV camera nearby, the low res video.

midnight rambler
16th July 2021, 08:17 PM
For those of you asserting that *somehow* the usual suspects planned and executed a planned demolition of Champlain Towers I submit you have NOTHING but conjecture. You've got NOTHING! There were no explosives involved because to have a SUCCESSFUL controlled demolition takes dozens of shaped charges and hundreds of yards very deliberately placed and there is ZERO evidence of any explosives. That leaves DEW...? ??? Where's your evidence?? All you have is conjecture, nothing more.

Y'all do realize that the 40 year old 13 story Champlain Towers was located on a fucking island, surrounded by the ocean, and sinking at the rate of 2mm/year, with a documented 25 year history of deferred maintenance, a below grade garage which flooded with sea water with such regularity that they wore out pumps trying unsuccessfully to get the water out, right?

There's this thing called differential settlement at 27:30 in this video -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg7xofW6fnI

cheka.
17th July 2021, 05:59 AM
Y’all keep referencing some sort of planned demolition but you’ve got NOTHING!!!

According to the 911 callers as many called it an earthquake as called it an explosion.

some of us are still gathering/weighing evidence - everybody knows the official story blasting out of (((nyc))) media

so the only things worth discussing are the facts that run counter to it. this should not always be misconstrued as an opinion - just more info added for prudent analysis

there are similar condos sitting on beach sand all over the country -- i've owned two of them in galveston, tx - a sand barrier island. why did this condo do what it did? what makes it special? the official story needs to address this

midnight rambler
17th July 2021, 08:39 AM
So if not a catastrophic structural failure, then exactly what caused the building to fall??

You've got nothing.

This video appears to have come from inside a condo unit in the second phase of the collapse, note the angles of the walls and ceiling are off square -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AStmMrGdFQ

JDRock
17th July 2021, 09:37 AM
midnight and the IDF would have you believe the "official story".

cheka.
17th July 2021, 04:02 PM
midnight and the IDF would have you believe the "official story".

the idf guy's performance is disturbing/sketchy

perhaps they were there because their people were well represented in the pile of rubble

did other countries send 'help' too?

cheka.
17th July 2021, 04:08 PM
couple of claims of who/why 'they' were there

https://nypost.com/2021/06/29/israeli-army-specialists-join-search-in-florida-condo-collapse/

On Sunday, the specialists from the Israel Defense Forces’ Home Front Command joined the massive effort to find survivors in the devastated remains of the Champlain Towers South in Surfside, the Times of Israel reported.

The rapid-mobilization unit — which has taken part in a variety of high-profile missions around the globe — is headed by Golan Vach, a colonel in the reserves, and includes 10 other reservists who are all top experts in engineering, according to the IDF.

Vach said the destruction his team has encountered in Florida is the worst it’s ever seen in the decades of missions by the battle-hardened unit.

Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz said the mission to Florida was approved in coordination with the Foreign Ministry.

“As with any national mission, the IDF and the defense establishment are ready to respond, act and assist. Every effort will be made to save lives, support the Jewish community and our friend the United States,” Gantz said, the Israeli outlet reported.

The team — part of the “Helping Hand” operation — was joined by Israel’s United Hatzalah, a Jerusalem-based volunteer emergency service, which sent a delegation of six psychological assistance workers to help the affected families.

Israel’s Diaspora Affairs Minister Nachman Shai, who also arrived at the tragic site, noted that the widely respected unit’s members “have been all over the world in many similar situations.”

“We will do whatever we can to help the Americans in any way they deem fit,” Shai told the Jerusalem Post. “America can learn from Israeli experience. Unfortunately, we have too much experience with disasters.”

Delegation official Elad Edri said the team held out hope for a miracle.

cheka.
17th July 2021, 04:12 PM
egad

https://www.timesofisrael.com/departing-idf-rescue-team-at-florida-condo-collapse-get-medals-farewell-cheers/

Departing IDF rescue team at Florida condo collapse gets medals, cheers

A ceremony was held Saturday to thank members of Israel’s National Rescue Unit for their help in trying to find survivors in the mountain of rubble left behind where a condo building collapsed in Surfside, Miami.

The ceremony was attended by Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava, Surfside Mayor Charles Burkett, and local fire and rescue chiefs.

Levine Cava presented the team members with medals and thanked them for their help in the grim work.

In return, the Israeli team leader, Col. (res.) Golan Vach, presented Levine Cava and Burkett with an Israeli flag signed by the unit’s members.

The team members were also cheered as they walked through the town, with the streets lined by local rescue teams and residents.

JDRock
18th July 2021, 08:10 AM
Just like 911, there to "help" because they love america so much! Oh, and destroy macaffees files that implicate izzy and epstein smh

Cebu_4_2
18th July 2021, 03:45 PM
Just like 911, there to "help" because they love america so much! Oh, and destroy macaffees files that implicate izzy and epstein smh

Not much mention of that at all. Everything I read on that has been scrubbed. Every bookmark in regards is a 404 error. So to me it's obvious that it was natural and Mcaffee's servers never existed. Case closed. Carry on, nothing to see here.

woodman
18th July 2021, 03:59 PM
everybody knows the official story blasting out of (((nyc))) media

so the only things worth discussing are the facts that run counter to it. this should not always be misconstrued as an opinion - just more info added for prudent analysis

It can actually be quite useful to occasionally watch the mainstream tripe. You can pretty much divine the truth by believing the exact opposite of what their claims are. At this point they certainly don't want to spend a buck showing any news. Their dollars are better spent sticking to indoctrination and outright fraudulent propaganda.

midnight rambler
28th July 2021, 07:20 PM
Review of the Champlain Towers collapse, this much is well established by this point:

40 year old building
Marine environment
Building was on an island
Garage floor was no more than 2.5 feet above sea level
Beaucoup evidence of water damage to pool deck when viewing ceiling in the garage, stalactites popping out of cracks all over
An 3' x 3' exploratory cut was into the pool deck adjacent to the largest planter sometime in the later half of last year and left exposed for months
There was punch through shear on at least five columns supporting pool deck
The punch through shear on the five columns apparently occurred approximately seven minutes before the ultimate catastrophic failure of the building
The deterioration of the pool deck (spalling, corrosion of the rebar, delamination, stalactites, etc.) was known for at least 25 years
When inspected in the mid-90s the subsidence of the building was estimated to be 2mm/year - that's ~3 inches over 40 years

My own observations -

Waterproofing materials and techniques used 40 years ago were prone to premature failure (like in as little as a year or two after original installation), nowhere as advanced as today
When the punch through shear occurred taking out the initial columns the beams connecting those columns to the columns directly below the south side of the building fell and compromised the columns supporting the south side of the building
The initial collapse of the pool deck appears to have been centered at the location of the largest planter box, right where the 3'x3' exploratory cut was made and left exposed for months
The corrugated plastic panel fastened to the ceiling of the garage/pool deck (apparently placed there to divert the pool deck seepage from getting on someone's car since there was no provision for drainage off that panel) appears to have been in the vicinity of the largest planter box, thus indicating this was a major trouble spot where the waterproofing failed

My own theory overview:

Very poor waterproofing installation failed prematurely. Stalactites appear all over garage ceiling/pool deck over the course of 40 years and are largely disregarded with no remedial action of any type expect for the destructive testing at the 3'x3' exploratory cut (which really didn't remedy anything and there's a good chance it was contributory to the collapse). The warning signs were blown off. Pool deck was delaminated after decades of enduring a waterproofing failure and who knows what sort of heavy equipment was brought in to install and subsequently remove the palm trees on the pool deck thereby aggravating the delamination of the pool deck. There was apparently a complete disregard of the integrity of the structure therefore it broke.

This nonsense about the Chosen having a hand in this collapse is just utter nonsense. There were people at the pool of the hotel on the north side of the Champlain towers who were within just a few yards of the pool deck when it collapsed and there was a family (up and awake) on the first floor directly adjacent to the initial pool deck collapse....NO ONE reported hearing any explosions. Sometimes the simplest scenario is the closest to the truth. The Chosen showed up to get their moment of glory and nothing more, as soon as the cameras were off them they were most likely out of there. And I doubt the local authorities allowed them in as equals.

Because of the lack of attention to the deterioration of the pool deck over the course of decades it was only a matter of time before it collapsed.

ANYTIME copious amounts of stalactites are observed from the underside of a structural concrete deck it's either FUCKED or well on its way to being fucked.

JDRock
30th July 2021, 06:10 PM
Stalactites explains away the presence of numerous israelli army troops on site as the dust settled? FFS!
Stalactites explains away the mcaffey harddrives.. SMH.

Dachsie
23rd November 2021, 03:16 AM
I have not followed the Champlain Towers collapse story closely, or really at all, but stumbled upon this YouTube video so will post it here in case anyone is interested.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2VUNMWxkd0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2VUNMWxkd0

21:12 video runtime

Neighbor Caused Surfside Collapse Lawsuit Alleges - Lawsuit Analysis Part 1

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Lawsuit Analysis Part 1 - In this video we look at the claim by the owners and surviving family members of the Champlain Towers Collapse that the construction of neighboring building Eighty-Seven Park contributed to the ultimate demise of the building's structural integrity.

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Dachsie
23rd November 2021, 05:13 AM
Dachsie comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk2hmytlDg8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk2hmytlDg8

Crime, Corruption, and Incompetence - The History of Champlain Towers South

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In this video we review the composite history of the developer, contractor, and engineer responsible for the construction of Champlain Towers South, North, and East.
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Dachsie comment:

Josh Porter has high quality analytical and communication skills and that is why I like what he does on his channel. What I find interesting is that the "crime, corruption and incompetence" pattern related to the development of the Champlain Towers South building is the exact same pattern I see in the "Coronavirus" or "PLANdemic" hoax or scam. The construction of tall buildings, think 9-11-01 World Trade Center complex of buildings, is fraught with the same patterns of corruption. The safety of the construction workers is sacrificed and the safety of residential occupants of the buildings is also sacrificed on the altar of greed.

I believe Christians are obligated to become informed and to expose corruption. Why ? Because doing so glorifies our Creator and it contributes to the common good of the people.

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Ephesians 6:12

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.

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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ...

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