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woodman
14th October 2021, 12:37 PM
My son has just purchased a home on a fixed rate 30 year mortgage. $225K home loan. His wife told me they got it at somewhere around 2.6%. I find this incomprehensible, especially when considering that the government has issued a CPI of around 6% for the year. What am I missing?
A friend told me he heard something about legislation being considered to actually 'adjust' fixed rate mortgages, but I have looked online and can find nothing.
I listen to lots of opinions on price inflation and they go both ways and both sides have good points. Most of the 'experts' believe the money is going to hell and quick. I am pretty much in the same camp. I see things may be a replay of the inflation of the 70's. I admit, I don't know much and my financial acumen seems kinda lacking; I mean, hey, I invested in gold and silver but I've watched the stock market go nuclear.
osoab
14th October 2021, 12:40 PM
Did you son read all of the fine print? I don't want to speculate. The vampires bankers probably have something in there for currency reset, etc.
midnight rambler
14th October 2021, 01:06 PM
I've watched the stock market go nuclear.
Bidness is going gangbusters at the casino but remember...the house always wins.
ziero0
14th October 2021, 02:08 PM
Banks have armed security guards for a reason. That would be the illusion that they have something valuable to protect.
EE_
14th October 2021, 04:25 PM
My son has just purchased a home on a fixed rate 30 year mortgage. $225K home loan. His wife told me they got it at somewhere around 2.6%. I find this incomprehensible, especially when considering that the government has issued a CPI of around 6% for the year. What am I missing?
A friend told me he heard something about legislation being considered to actually 'adjust' fixed rate mortgages, but I have looked online and can find nothing.
I listen to lots of opinions on price inflation and they go both ways and both sides have good points. Most of the 'experts' believe the money is going to hell and quick. I am pretty much in the same camp. I see things may be a replay of the inflation of the 70's. I admit, I don't know much and my financial acumen seems kinda lacking; I mean, hey, I invested in gold and silver but I've watched the stock market go nuclear.
The only people getting rich on the stock market are those that are cashing out at these levels. The rest are feeling rich for the moment, but if something happens to tank the market and all the stock wealthy fail to get out with their money, how rich are they really?
On the other hand, you/we are still holding our wealth and something can also happen to cause a major run on PM's, and make us wealthy.
It's too soon to add up everyone's score, the game isn't over yet.
Shami-Amourae
15th October 2021, 01:20 AM
The stock market only goes up over time. It's fully rigged to preserve the wealth of the ruling class. The Federal Reserve simply prints money and pumps it up.
If there's a "crash" it will be short lived followed by more money printing.
This happens in 3rd world countries like Venezuela and Zimbabwe where their currencies have collapsed, but the ruling class preserve their wealth within their own stock markets.
The ruling class gives insider knowledge to those that obey and serve them what the Fed will pump artificially.
EE_
15th October 2021, 08:13 AM
The stock market only goes up over time. It's fully rigged to preserve the wealth of the ruling class. The Federal Reserve simply prints money and pumps it up.
If there's a "crash" it will be short lived followed by more money printing.
This happens in 3rd world countries like Venezuela and Zimbabwe where their currencies have collapsed, but the ruling class preserve their wealth within their own stock markets.
The ruling class gives insider knowledge to those that obey and serve them what the Fed will pump artificially.
I can't dispute that, however there are things money printers may not be able to control, like a war with China, China dumping the dollar and replacing the dollar as the world reserve currency. The NWO succeeds in bringing in a socialist/police state society, where the masses can no longer own anything and are given a basic income. Revolution.
More obscure I'd say China taking out our satellites and taking down the internet.
The elite will stay in power in any scenario, but what kind of world will they and their children be living in? We are living in a modern day Rome.
ziero0
15th October 2021, 08:43 AM
"We are living in a modern day Rome"
Tracing my ancestry to Denmark I claim one of my ancestors as Herman the German ... Seems the family business involves taking down Romanish umpires.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_the_German
Hitch
15th October 2021, 08:13 PM
Consider the 10 year t-bill rate, 1.53% as I type. Real inflation is at "their" number of 5.30%. We all know it's higher. So, you have a negative "real" rate of the 10 year, to almost 4% loss factoring inflation. That is their numbers not real numbers. It's much much worse.
What does this mean? KaBoom! Buy Gold, Silver, Bitcoin, food and water, and stay out of debt. Like others, fixed interest rates might be going goodbye here soon.
ziero0
16th October 2021, 04:03 AM
Goes way back in memory to the 70s & 80s. Interest rates 12%. Inflation 16%. Farming was a break even proposition. You did it because it was healthy and the family business. But banks had to have a reason to loan you money so every break even year they would add a hundred or more to the value of your land and urge you to borrow the money for a vacation on the coast because the illusion demanded you be prosperous.
They do the same now with the value of your home.
woodman
16th October 2021, 04:49 AM
Goes way back in memory to the 70s & 80s. Interest rates 12%. Inflation 16%. Farming was a break even proposition. You did it because it was healthy and the family business. But banks had to have a reason to loan you money so every break even year they would add a hundred or more to the value of your land and urge you to borrow the money for a vacation on the coast because the illusion demanded you be prosperous.
They do the same now with the value of your home.
It would seem that as soon as the easy money spigot is turned off, the housing values will plummet because there is no funding for the bubble to keep expanding. It is all confusing and counter-intuitive because it is a no-win situation where we need money supply in order to have a moderate velocity but there is really no way to moderate a system where the principal is created but not the interest. Truly a Ponzi scheme.
Hitch
16th October 2021, 06:39 PM
Consider the 10 year t-bill rate, 1.53% as I type. Real inflation is at "their" number of 5.30%. We all know it's higher. So, you have a negative "real" rate of the 10 year, to almost 4% loss factoring inflation. That is their numbers not real numbers. It's much much worse.
What does this mean? KaBoom! Buy Gold, Silver, Bitcoin, food and water, and stay out of debt. Like others, fixed interest rates might be going goodbye here soon.
Please read what I posted here. There is a collision course. High inflation, low interest rates. Stock market high, housing high, metals low. Everything will meet up eventually.
ziero0
16th October 2021, 06:50 PM
"Everything will meet up eventually"
A culvert on wheels would be considered luxury accommodation in many of those homeless communities in California. Throw an outboard motor bracket on it and you won't even be bothered with earthquakes/tsunamis.
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