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Dachsie
20th February 2022, 08:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQaHJz8nZyQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQaHJz8nZyQ

39:19 video runtime



Bishop Donald Sanborn Explains The Cassiciacum Thesis

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Feb 17, 2022

Catholic Family Podcast

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We were honored to interview his Excellency, Bishop Donald Sanborn, about the "Cassiciacum Thesis". The good Bishop set aside an hour of his valuable time to describe it in simple layman's terms, but also in detail. The Thesis is a theological explanation of how Sedevacantism can come to an end in a seemingly hopeless scenario. The interview sheds light on a confusing topic and we hope more clarity helps bring unity among the faithful, bringing souls ever closer to God and His True Church.

AMDG!

*Thank you to Father Desposito and Dan Bremner for technical support and video production.

*Kevin has a better camera on the way ;D

Dachsie
20th February 2022, 08:23 AM
I thought a further explanation of the dogma of indefectibility is in order here.

http://www.catholictradition.org/Tradition/indefectibility.htm

THE INDEFECTIBILITY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (http://www.catholictradition.org/Tradition/indefectibility.htm)

Compiled by Pauly Fongemie

The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1917 gives the following definition of the Church's indefectibility:

"By this term is signified, not merely that the Church will persist to the end of time, but further, that it will be preserved unimpaired in its essential characteristics. The Church can never undergo any constitutional change, which will make it, as a social organism, something different from what it was originally. It can never become corrupt in faith or in morals; nor can it ever lose the Apostolic hierarchy, or the Sacraments through which Christ communicates grace to men."
<>"Simon, Simon, behold Satan has desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat. But I have prayed for thee that thy faith may not fail; and when once thou hast turned again, strengthen thy brethren." (Lk. 22:31-33)

Jesus chose Peter to be the first Pope: he was impetuous, vacillating, courageous and cowardly all at the same time. He was probably the strongest and, paradoxically, the weakest of all the Apostles, yet even though he denied our Lord three times he ended by being crucified upside down in contrition. Peter in the end proved that he truly was "the Rock". Peter is the perfect example to demonstrate that Christ meant what He said, His Church is indefectible.

The Daily Catholic, October 2, 1999
THE INDEFECTIBILITY OF THE CHURCH

By the indefectibility of the Catholic Church is meant that the Church, as Jesus Christ founded it, will last until the end of time. The Archangel Gabriel announced to the Blessed Virgin Mary that Christ “shall be king over the house of Jacob forever; and of His kingdom there shall be no end” (Luke 1: 32-33).

Christ meant His Church to endure to the end of the world. It is to be indestructible and unchanging, - to possess indefectibility. Christ, God Himself, could scarcely have come, and with such incredible pain and labor have founded a Church which would die with the Apostles. He came to save all men. Those to live in future ages needed salvation as much as the people of Apostolic times.

Christ said too Peter: "Upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18). By the "gates of Hell", He meant all the power of the devil - all kinds of attacks, physical violence as well as false teaching. Christ promises here that the Church would be assailed always, but never overcome. This promise of Our Lord has been proved for almost 2000 years by the facts of history. Not one of the persecutors of the Church has prevailed over it. On the contrary, many of them have come to a fearful end. There will always be Popes, bishops, and laity, to compose the Church; the truths taught by Our Lord will always be found in His Church.

3. After telling His Apostles to teach all nations, Christ said: "Behold, I am with you all days, even unto the consummation of the world" (Matthew 28:20). As the Apostles were not to live to the end of the world, Christ must have been addressing them as representatives of a perpetual Church.

The Apostles themselves understood Christ to mean that His Church should endure. After organizing Christian communities, they appointed successors in their place, to live after them and carry on the Church. The Apostles instructed these successors to ordain in turn other bishops and priests. All these acts were to assure the perpetuity of the Church.

Christ intended the Church to remain as He founded it, to preserve the whole of what He taught, and the shining marks which He gave it in the beginning. If the Church lost any of the qualities that God gave it, it could not be said to be indefectible, because it would not be the same institution. Indefectibility implies unchangeability. Our Lord promised to abide by the Church, to assist it, and to send the Holy Spirit to remain in it. God does not change: "Behold I am with you all days, even unto the consummation of the world" (Matthew 28:20).