I've concluded flatearthers are worse than retarded

[midnight rambler]

Those who push flat earth on others are tools of the money powers, i.e. useful idiots.

Flat earth* is a distraction from how the money powers are sucking the substance out of us. Why the big push to promote flat earth?? "Because they lied to us/they've been lying to us (about globe earth and therefore LITERALLY everything else)." Right. So what are you going to do about getting lied to about flat earth?? Talk to others about how we've been lied to? You've been neutered from doing ANYTHING constructive. What people really need to wake up to so as to get motivated to actually do something constructive is to go after the money powers instead of tilting at the windmills of flat earth vs. globe earth. The money powers are fucking you and sucking the energy out of you (via flat earth theory).

*I've said this before and I'll say it again: I don't give a diddlely-squat what shape you think the earth is. I think we're in a sim and therefore the earth can be ANY shape YOU would like it to be. I regard the earth as a toroid with a hollow center but I don't go around trying to convince others.

[Amanda]

Those who push flat earth on others are tools of the money powers, i.e. useful idiots.

Flat earth* is a distraction from how the money powers are sucking the substance out of us. Why the big push to promote flat earth?? "Because they lied to us/they've been lying to us (about globe earth and therefore LITERALLY everything else)." Right. So what are you going to do about getting lied to about flat earth?? Talk to others about how we've been lied to? You've been neutered from doing ANYTHING constructive. What people really need to wake up to so as to get motivated to actually do something constructive is to go after the money powers instead of tilting at the windmills of flat earth vs. globe earth. The money powers are fucking you and sucking the energy out of you (via flat earth theory).

*I've said this before and I'll say it again: I don't give a diddlely-squat what shape you think the earth is. I think we're in a sim and therefore the earth can be ANY shape YOU would like it to be. I regard the earth as a toroid with a hollow center but I don't go around trying to convince others.


Yeah, I seriously don't give a crap what shape the Earth is and I don't care what other people think it is. I personally think it's a globe, but again, I don't care. All I care about are these demonic, psychopathic, genocidal jewish central bankers who are destroying our world, planning to kill billions of us off and enslave the survivors. That's really all I care about. These psychopaths are stealing our lives and our futures. It drives me crazy that a planet of 8 billion of us has been taken over by a few thousand jewish psychopaths and that we can't find a way to hunt them down and get rid of them and their minions.

[midnight rambler]

The money powers extract wealth/substance/value/production (which is all a form of energy) from the people then turn around use that energy to destroy us and wage war...THAT is what we need to be addressing, not the shape of the earth. Arguing about the shape of the earth and trying to convince others is for losers.

[Amanda]

The money powers extract wealth/substance/value/production (which is all a form of energy) from the people then turn around use that energy to destroy us and wage war...THAT is what we need to be addressing, not the shape of the earth. Arguing about the shape of the earth and trying to convince others is for losers.

Agree 100%

[Spectrism]

Those who push flat earth on others are tools of the money powers, i.e. useful idiots.

Flat earth* is a distraction from how the money powers are sucking the substance out of us. Why the big push to promote flat earth?? "Because they lied to us/they've been lying to us (about globe earth and therefore LITERALLY everything else)." Right. So what are you going to do about getting lied to about flat earth?? Talk to others about how we've been lied to? You've been neutered from doing ANYTHING constructive. What people really need to wake up to so as to get motivated to actually do something constructive is to go after the money powers instead of tilting at the windmills of flat earth vs. globe earth. The money powers are fucking you and sucking the energy out of you (via flat earth theory).

*I've said this before and I'll say it again: I don't give a diddlely-squat what shape you think the earth is. I think we're in a sim and therefore the earth can be ANY shape YOU would like it to be. I regard the earth as a toroid with a hollow center but I don't go around trying to convince others.

If you were a lover of the truth, you would care what the earth is. Since you are not a lover of the truth, you are delusional. Being delusional you will NEVER know what the truth is about anything. That is why some people seek the honest truth about the earth, politics, religion, health, and ALL things.

[midnight rambler]

Ok, so exactly how's believing in the flat earth theory improving your lot in life? Are you free* from the money powers?

IMO, the ONE lie each of us can actually do something about RIGHT NOW is the lie about 'money' (actually, as the scheme is run currently it's energy extraction to serve the beast). Carrying on about flat earth nets you nothing other than discrediting yourself.

*free as reasonably possible under the circumstances

[Spectrism]

Ok, so exactly how's believing in the flat earth theory improving your lot in life? Are you free* from the money powers?

IMO, the ONE lie each of us can actually do something about RIGHT NOW is the lie about 'money' (actually, as the scheme is run currently it's energy extraction to serve the beast). Carrying on about flat earth nets you nothing other than discrediting yourself.

*free as reasonably possible under the circumstances

YOU are the one carrying on about "flat earth". I can't prove anything about the earth and neither can you. But what I do see is the fraud that is NASA. Why is that important? Pieces of the big puzzle. I will follow truth anywhere.

You think you can do something about the fake money system?? Hahaha... now that is a laugh. How are you doing anything about "the beast"?

[midnight rambler]

I've done everything I possibly can about the counterfeit money, and then some.

Care to explain how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with your flat earth theory?

[Ares]

I've done everything I possibly can about the counterfeit money, and then some.

Care to explain how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with your flat earth theory?

Debating the flat earther loons are hilarious. Blah blah blah, you can't go to Antartica. Read the Treaty... So I did, NO WHERE in the treaty says Antartica is off limits to anyone. You can even visit the South Pole for a hefty price, because lets face it, its a very remote and cold location.

I have yet to see a Flat Earther explain how the magnetic field works in a flat earth model, how the star rotations change depending on which side of the equator you're on. Its all so tiresome, you can present evidence until you've got nothing left, and they'll still post bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse with ZERO working flat earth model.

I'm still waiting for a flat earther to explain this with any semblance of rationality and aligns with physical science.

https://flatearth.ws/pontchartrain-perspective

[ziero0]

Left and right are inverted in a mirror. Why aren't top and bottom inverted?

Years back a man was having severe grand mal seizures. They involved disruption to his entire brain. As a measure to isolate and control doctors surgically separated the two halves of his brain.

The left eye communicates with the right brain. The right eye with the left brain and there was no longer any communication between brain halves. The left brain controls speech while the right controls movement.

As an experiment doctors presented the man's left eye with the image of a hand saw and the right eye with the image of a hammer. He was asked what he saw. His reply was a hammer.

Next he was asked to draw what he had seen. He drew a hand saw.

Now was his first response a lie? Or his second response? Both cannot be entirely true because each response withheld a portion of the whole. The reality of the left hemisphere was "hammer". The reality of the right hemisphere was "hand saw"

[midnight rambler]

But was he right-handed, left-handed, or ambidextrous?? Important detail!

[ziero0]

The only thing suggested by this epileptic experiment is that reality is not singular. Observation is key to reality.

Observation is dependent on the 5 senses. Not on logic or memory.

A trooper writes you a ticket for speeding. He observes you speeding. He is in the present. He is not writing you the ticket for speeding 5 days ago (memory). He is not suggesting because you have a fast car you must have been speeding (logic). He is stating "I saw this guy speeding".

You may have observed global Earth at one time. Logic may suggest global Earth. Opinion suggests Earth is a globe. But if you eliminate both logic and memory you present is flat Earth. But then if you are on a spacecraft maybe your present is global Earth.

[ziero0]

You might observe "The U.S. is buried in debt" or "There is much poverty in the third world".

That is not really an observation. You have no sensors for debt or poverty. These are opinions. Based upon what you presume debt is. Or what poverty looks like relative to wealth.

Your opinions are faulty. Mostly. Maybe not all the time. But frequently. Or more often than not. Flat Earth might be your reality if you are in the third world. But then don't be asking flat earthers to fund a space program. Likely they will not be interested. If you like to take on the impossible try selling shoes to a double amputee.

[Spectrism]

I've done everything I possibly can about the counterfeit money, and then some.

Care to explain how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with your flat earth theory?

Look at you!! You want to get right into a debate over something you insisted be ignored.

All I said was I don't trust anything from the govt or NASA. We have NO pictures from outer space to see the earth as a globe. We have NOT landed on the moon. The "science" said there are van Allen radiation belts around the earth and they will kill any life that tries to leave our atmosphere.

Satellites are NOT outside the earth atmosphere. Why is the truth important? Pure truth leads to understanding. Standing under lies leads to deception.

Ball earth spinning in space supports big bang nonsense which supports the idea there is no god. Science demands observation, reproducibility and testing of ideas. How can a high speed gyroscope work on a moving surface? Does it flip upside down in 12 hours?

What effects would we expect from atmospheric lensing in a flat earth model or a globe model?

AS for geosynchronous... your question presumes suppositions that you may not presume. If your presupposition is false, the answer is meaningless. If you can first identify and define that easily observable concept of "gravity", then we can begin the discussion.

[midnight rambler]

AS for geosynchronous... your question presumes suppositions that you may not presume. If your presupposition is false, the answer is meaningless. If you can first identify and define that easily observable concept of "gravity", then we can begin the discussion.

That's nowhere close to explaining how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with respect to your flat earth theory. Typical flat earth nonsense, no answers. How exactly does 'gravity' have anything at all to do with satellite dishes?? ???

BTW, the issue at hand ('the debate') is about the flat earth psyop being used to distract people from the real problem, the money powers extracting our substance from us. Flat earth theory is a waste of time and energy, whereas fighting the psyop is not.

[Spectrism]

That's nowhere close to explaining how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with respect to your flat earth theory. Typical flat earth nonsense, no answers. How exactly does 'gravity' have anything at all to do with satellite dishes?? ???

BTW, the issue at hand ('the debate') is about the flat earth psyop being used to distract people from the real problem, the money powers extracting our substance from us. Flat earth theory is a waste of time and energy, whereas fighting the psyop is not.

No, the issue at hand is you stated: "flatearthers are worse than retarded". And in so doing, you couldn't even get the spelling/ punctuation right. You clearly see "flat-earthers" as a threat in some way. They interfere with your take-down of the globalist agenda. Amazing the power we have, whether we are "flat-earthers" or just truth lovers.

You demand proof and a working model when you cannot prove your cherished globe model.
Here are the facts:
1. We cannot go to outer space because of radiation.
2. We did not go to the moon.
3. We cannot provide PHOTOGRAPHS (untouched) from beyond near-earth "orbit" or outside the earth atmosphere.
4. You cannot explain why a gyroscope on a submarine or airplane does not flip 180degrees from one side of earth to the other.
5. You cannot show how atmospheric lensing distorts our views and light travel that is at acute angles.
6. You cannot explain how gravity works.
7. All your understanding comes from government psy-ops, yet you think you are hot on the trail of a psy-op.

[midnight rambler]

You flat-earthers are always good for a few yuks, thanks for that. Is focusing on the picayune the best you can muster?? ???

I've never asserted that any Apollo astro-nots have been to the moon.
I agree about the Van Allen radiation belts.
The rest of your rant is just utter nonsense, exactly what we can expect from flat-earthers.

I watched a retarded flat-earther's video the other day (for amusement purposes) where this guy takes all the supposed motions of the supposed planet earth model and comes up with a total of 207 MILLION MPH in FIVE or SIX different directions. His POINT was: Do you feel any movement?? There's no movement to be felt so it's not at all possible that the earth can be moving at 207 MILLION miles per hour. No, dumb shit, there's this thing called inertia, and if a mass is not accelerating or decelerating then there would be no movement felt, measured, or indicated. Morons expect us to believe their completely delusional nonsense.

I've a friend of over 30 years who believes in flat earth theory. He's a great guy however he's been sucked in by the flat earth psyop. Recently I asked him to explain to me how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with the flat earth model. His answer: "That's a good question." Then he tried to tell me that satellite dishes pick up radio transmissions bounced off the ionosphere ('sphere', there's that damn globe model showing up again!), which is called 'skip'. Then I explained to him how 'skip' works and how there's no way it would work with satellite dishes and the flat earth theory.

Another issue I've noticed with flat-earthers is that they welcome in some real nutters and aren't critical of them because they're fellow flat-earthers. Two examples: there's no such thing as radioactivity and therefore there are no atomic or hydrogen bombs, and the Titanic sinking was a hoax (which i agree with mostly because it was Titanic's sister ship the Olympic which was damaged in a collision and had a 7 degree list therefore the names were switched for insurance purposes so they then lose the Olympic).

[Spectrism]

You flat-earthers are always good for a few yuks, thanks for that. Is focusing on the picayune the best you can muster?? ???

I've never asserted that any Apollo astro-nots have been to the moon.
I agree about the Van Allen radiation belts.
The rest of your rant is just utter nonsense, exactly what we can expect from flat-earthers.

I watched a retarded flat-earther's video the other day (for amusement purposes) where this guy takes all the supposed motions of the supposed planet earth model and comes up with a total of 207 MILLION MPH in FIVE or SIX different directions. His POINT was: Do you feel any movement?? There's no movement to be felt so it's not at all possible that the earth can be moving at 207 MILLION miles per hour. No, dumb shit, there's this thing called inertia, and if a mass is not accelerating or decelerating then there would be no movement felt, measured, or indicated. Morons expect us to believe their completely delusional nonsense.

I've a friend of over 30 years who believes in flat earth theory. He's a great guy however he's been sucked in by the flat earth psyop. Recently I asked him to explain to me how geosynchronous satellite dishes work with the flat earth model. His answer: "That's a good question." Then he tried to tell me that satellite dishes pick up radio transmissions bounced off the ionosphere ('sphere', there's that damn globe model showing up again!), which is called 'skip'. Then I explained to him how 'skip' works and how there's no way it would work with satellite dishes and the flat earth theory.

Another issue I've noticed with flat-earthers is that they welcome in some real nutters and aren't critical of them because they're fellow flat-earthers. Two examples: there's no such thing as radioactivity and therefore there are no atomic or hydrogen bombs, and the Titanic sinking was a hoax (which i agree with mostly because it was Titanic's sister ship the Olympic which was damaged in a collision and had a 7 degree list therefore the names were switched for insurance purposes so they then lose the Olympic).

You want to be insulting and stupid. That is your choice.

How many times do I have to say that I am not a "flat-earther" but a truth seeker? Is the earth flat? I don't know. Is it a sphere? I don't know. But you know everything and insist on being the voice of eminence.

Conflating nonsense into your argument is a stupid ploy and makes you look juvenile.

State your evidence that the earth is spherical and in a scientific manner that we all can reproduce through personal observation. Don't give us any CGI garbage. Don't cite government assurances as they are not worth the electrons they are written on.

You carefully avoided the gyroscope challenge. But I won't let that go. Answer the question.
And since you are so big on geosynchronous orbit, explain how gravity works, as that is the key to any such answer.

[Ares]

You want to be insulting and stupid. That is your choice.

How many times do I have to say that I am not a "flat-earther" but a truth seeker? Is the earth flat? I don't know. Is it a sphere? I don't know. But you know everything and insist on being the voice of eminence.

Conflating nonsense into your argument is a stupid ploy and makes you look juvenile.

State your evidence that the earth is spherical and in a scientific manner that we all can reproduce through personal observation. Don't give us any CGI garbage. Don't cite government assurances as they are not worth the electrons they are written on.

You carefully avoided the gyroscope challenge. But I won't let that go. Answer the question.
And since you are so big on geosynchronous orbit, explain how gravity works, as that is the key to any such answer.

Same goes for you, state your evidence that the Earth is flat in a scientific manner that is reproducible and explains the observable data such as the North star being visible in the northern hemisphere, while the Southern cross is not and vice versa. Explain how those stars cannot be seen on a flat earth depending on where you are standing on Earth.

Explain how the magnetic field works in a flat earth model, as well as asteroid / meteoroid impacts work because the "firmament is impenetrable according to the flat earther crowd".

[ziero0]

Easy. Mirrors, magic, illusion.

Now explain the difference between sunrise (6 a.m.) and sunrise where railroads run on schedule.

[midnight rambler]

Good grief, this religious cult is far, far worse than I thought.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuAoQsrYJqI

[midnight rambler]

Speaking of gyros...lol

Typical flat earther in denial.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvf617ReVs

[ziero0]

"You" have not a single cell remaining that you were born with. So if "you" is not your body then what is "you"?

"You" might be the McDonalds you had six months ago. However it is not although the scant nutrition provided by it might still reside somewhere in your liver or big toe.

Does "you" exist in a geometrically defined space? A spere? A plane? A straight line? A single point? Or everywhere? Or nowhere?

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsZjKQEN1tY

[midnight rambler]

Adm. Richard Byrd was a Freemason and started Freemason lodges in Antartica. This definitely doesn't help the case for flat earth -

https://www.bitchute.com/video/A6j8DAV9dUmt/

[Spectrism]

Same goes for you, state your evidence that the Earth is flat in a scientific manner that is reproducible and explains the observable data such as the North star being visible in the northern hemisphere, while the Southern cross is not and vice versa. Explain how those stars cannot be seen on a flat earth depending on where you are standing on Earth.

Explain how the magnetic field works in a flat earth model, as well as asteroid / meteoroid impacts work because the "firmament is impenetrable according to the flat earther crowd".

No wonder this place is a ghost town. Nobody here (despite the line saying 111 members on line now) because the few that keep posting crap are morons.

Can you not read Ares? I am not in your little boxes. Try reading the thread again if you read anything at all. I want the truth, not regurgitated propaganda from sources that are unreliable.

Look at Rambler- he says he does not think we went to the moon, does not trust the stories of the Apollo missions, and acknowledges the radiation belt threat. Outside of CGI and faked pictures of earth from space, you have NO evidence for a global / spherical earth.

It is not my job to prove squat to you. You are free to believe any lies you choose. You cannot prove the concept you already believe and defend. If you think that is untrue, tell me how you, in your own backyard or in your worldwide flights, can show the repeatable observations that show we are a sphere. I posed a few questions that you need to answer to support YOUR religious cult. You and Rambler put your faith in the government and its agencies. Bad move.