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I am me, I am free
3rd April 2010, 01:12 PM
The two hottest modern warbirds in CONUS are privately owned (currently by Pride Aircraft of Rockford, Ill.).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4lE6HcBPxw

I am me, I am free
3rd April 2010, 01:26 PM
Nighttime engine run-up and afterburner check

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df3vW5HsPlc

PDT
3rd April 2010, 01:27 PM
Yay! Sukhoi Fan is BACK!

I am me, I am free
3rd April 2010, 01:35 PM
Daytime engine run-up and afterburner check of N132SU, sistership of N131SU above.

These two aircraft are SU-27UB models obtained from the Ukrainian AF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9By6bPn3DM

General of Darkness
3rd April 2010, 01:38 PM
Tom, do the Su's have super cruise?

I am me, I am free
3rd April 2010, 01:38 PM
A very leisurely climbout (for the Su-27) of N131SU to FL100 in 54 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRA0wczZS3U

I am me, I am free
3rd April 2010, 01:51 PM
Tom, do the Su's have super cruise?


No, they don't, however the Su-27 (bort P-42) still holds all the time to altitude records from 0-15,000 meters (49,212 feet) for air-breathing aircraft (for 23 years no less).

49,000 ft. straight up in 70 seconds - do the math. lol

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3289/p42sadownikowfrolowtsoikf8.jpg

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2004_files/day01_01.jpg

The latest Sukhoi warbird, the 5th generation PAK-FA, is capable of super-cruise (and for FWIW, IMO super-cruise is most convenient for the cowardly aggressors of the world). However from what I've seen so far I doubt that it has the super-maneuverability of the Su-30 with 3D TVC, but I could be wrong. I also doubt that the PAK FA has the ultra reliability/safety/stability of the Su-27 family - the wing/airframe design of the Su-27 is truly incredible - it's the only jet warbird which which will recover from a 'stupor' (unresponsive to control surface inputs, i.e. a nose down spin) simply by the pilot taking his hand off the stick and his feet off the rudder pedals. One thing is for sure, it's most likely that the PAK FA costs no more than 20% of the cost of one Craptor (and that's a stretch).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67zfmEqGxQ

I am me, I am free
3rd April 2010, 03:00 PM
do the Su's have super cruise?


Actually, the latest Su-27 variant, the Su-35S, does in fact have supercruise capability as well as the 3D TVC (while the cRaptor only has 25 y.o. 2D TVC technology).

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Su-35S-Flanker.html

http://www.ausairpower.net/Su-35S-KnAAPO-2P-1S.jpg