Hollie Greig

[uranian]

This story is of major importance, as it implicates senior political/establishment figures in paedophile/satanic abuse rings in Scotland and further afield to the English government. Briefly, Hollie was abused as a kid by her father, then he introduced his mates, including a senior Scottish policeman and a judge, to the abuse. She has Down's Syndrome, and has been judged to be incapable of lying by 2 seperate psychologists, has been paid off in an attempt to shut her up to the tune of about 15 grand, yet has now found the courage to speak about it. The MSM is utterly silent on the subject, though some local papers have found some balls:


http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1488131/?UserKey=#ixzz0kENQyJez]Hollie (http://Read more:


Grampian Police have reinterviewed a disabled woman who claims she was abused as a child by an Aberdeen paedo-phile ring which included a senior police officer and a leading Scottish sheriff.

Hollie Greig, 29, who has Down’s Syndrome, claims she was abused for 14 years from the age of six, and has given police the names of some of the men she says assaulted her.

Hollie and her mother, Anne, have been campaigning since 2000 when police were first informed of the alleged abuse, for criminal proceedings to be taken against those she says were involved.

The abuse is alleged to have taken place in Aberdeen, and Hollie and her mother claim to have made a statement at Bucksburn police station in July 2000 naming a senior police officer, who has since died, and a sheriff who still serves.

The Press and Journal knows the identities of both men but has decided not to make them public at this stage.

No charges have ever been brought, although Hollie received £13,500 compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority in April this year.

It is understood that followed evidence from a Grampian detective inspector who described Hollie as “a truthful witness to the best of her ability and an entirely innocent victim”.

Last night, Mrs Greig, 58, said her daughter has had nightmares and suffered panic attacks since she first told her mother about the alleged abuse nine years ago.

“We’ve been battling this for a long time now and we are angry with the way things were handled right from the start,” she said.

“We were practically forced out of our home in Aberdeen and fled to Shropshire when this whole thing came to light. During these past nine years myself and Hollie have been called liars and had to put up with constant insults but we will continue to fight despite the endless brick walls we hit.”

Mrs Greig said she ordered two psychological reports on Hollie to dismiss claims she had invented the allegations.

“Hollie was asked to draw pictures and describe sexual acts to see if there was any signs she might be lying.

“Both reports, carried out by two separate doctors, came back saying that 100% she was telling the truth and had been sexually abused.”

Mrs Greig said Hollie’s campaign would continue until justice has been done. “All Hollie wants is justice. She says this has ruined her childhood. She doesn’t trust anyone and I’m the only person she can be around for any length of time.”

Mrs Greig said two officers from Grampian Police visited Hollie in September and spent three-and-a-half hours interviewing her at a special facility in Shrewsbury.

Hollie and her mother, who moved to Shropshire to escape the alleged abuse, have enlisted a group of high-profile supporters, including, it is understood, singer Annie Lennox, to support their demand for a prosecution.

Mrs Greig claims that two of the alleged abusers moved to Portugal a number of years ago and that she went to her local police station in Shrewsbury to pass on that information when news broke of the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann.

Madeleine, who was three at the time, was kidnapped from her family’s holiday apartment at Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, in 2006. Police believe she was taken by a paedophile.

One of Hollie’s supporters wrote to the Crown Office in Edinburgh earlier this year querying the decision not to prosecute and received a reply from Andrew McIntyre, Head of Victims and Diversity, setting out the criteria for determining whether to bring charges.

His reply suggested that, in Hollie’s case, the decision was based on the lack of independent corroboration. Mr McIntyre gave an assurance that police were continuing to investigate “aspects of the case” and said that the ongoing inquiries prevented him from commenting further.

Grampian Police last night confirmed the force was investigating an allegation of historic sex abuse.

A Crown Office spokes-woman said late last night: "We have not received any report from the police.

“If we do receive a report it will be carefully considered in due course."

Some good info on this case on youtube, e.g. Red Ice Radio's interview with Icke:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qI31PREJ9Q

(NB this is the kind of thing that would demoted to conspiracies over at GIM, I can't see that this is anything other than a case with plenty of evidence, given the payoffs, the arrests of people who've tried to get into the story, the killing of her family members when they tried to help, the testimony from psychologists)

[Avalon]

Nice to see you here and thanks for posting this. I should be able to catch up on the story later this evening.

[uranian]

likewise ma'am. note to non-scots reader, a sherriff is what i'd call a judge in england, i.e. the guy who presides over a court.

[uranian]

the guy who is doing most to investigate this case, robert green, has been arrested again within the last few days for simply talking to the media about this. they really don't want this to be known about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYJk5aizPz0

[Neuro]

It is astonishing that she has been paid £13.500 for this and no-one has been charged...

[uranian]

we're talking judges and heads of police forces that abused hollie. there is a great deal of protection of that establishment paedophile ring going on...there's a good interview from red ice radio with icke about the case. if this reaches mainstream consciousness, it has the power to make goverments fall.

[uranian]

robert green, the main guy who is promoting the investigation of this, is now going to stand as a member of parliament in the upcoming UK election in an effort to publicise this further:

General Election 2010: Wannabe MP who's banned from Scottish seat he wants to represent (http://www.scotsman.com/news/General-Election-2010-Wannabe-MP.6241067.jp)


HE is banned from visiting Aberdeen but he wants to represent the city as an MP.
Robert Green has made what he believes to be legal history by becoming the first person to stand for election in a constituency he is prohibited from entering.

A self-styled "investigator" and campaigner, Mr Green is banned from the city under bail conditions imposed after he was charged with a breach of the peace earlier this year. He had been about to name some of the most influential men in the north-east of Scotland as paedophiles. Mr Green is standing as a candidate for Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers, a campaign group, and is acting as his own election agent.

"I understand that my candidacy has set legal precedent," Mr Green told The Scotsman yesterday. "I think the fact that I have finally – and against all odds – become a candidate is a minor victory for democracy."

Mr Green, based in Warrington, has several problems, however. Apart from being barred from the constituency, he is also understood to be prohibited by bail conditions from repeating allegations he has made on the internet against a number of prominent individuals in the north-east. Moreover, an Aberdeen sheriff has successfully secured an interdict preventing Mr Green from repeating allegations against him.

Mr Green, as recently as last week, appeared in private at Stonehaven Sheriff Court accused of breaching one of his bail conditions.

He yesterday claimed to have been brought to Scotland in handcuffs and forced to spend a night in police cells.

Mr Green describes himself as the "lay legal adviser" of Anne Greig, the mother of a 30-year-old woman named Hollie Greig who has made a series of allegations of rape and abuse against what she calls a paedophile ring in Aberdeen.

Police have completed a second investigation into the allegations. However, the Crown Office said earlier this year that there was not enough reliable evidence for a prosecution.

The Greigs have been campaigning for a full-scale prosecution since 2000.

Mr Green has been backing them since at least last year. He and the Greigs have since repeated their allegations on several occasions, including in radio interviews broadcast in Spain and the United States.

Their campaign claims to have 25,000 supporters online, the so-called "Hollie's Army". It is not known how many of them live in Aberdeen South. The Greigs used to live there but now reside in England.

Scottish authorities, meanwhile, are understood to be keeping a close watch on a blog associated with Mr Green. The website gives the names and addresses of people Ms Greig has accused of being part of the paedophile ring. It also published the names of other children she claims were abused, and has claimed Mrs Greig's brother Robert was murdered when he learned of the alleged crimes.

[JDRock]

we're talking judges and heads of police forces that abused hollie. there is a great deal of protection of that establishment paedophile ring going on...there's a good interview from red ice radio with icke about the case. if this reaches mainstream consciousness, it has the power to make goverments fall.


No....were talking most of the worldwide LEADERS and a virtual who's who in this world.
This stuff goes all the way to bush, clinton and beyond, not just hollie, thousands of others .

[Awoke]

Just posting to bookmark for later reading.

[uranian]

No....were talking most of the worldwide LEADERS and a virtual who's who in this world.This stuff goes all the way to bush, clinton and beyond, not just hollie, thousands of others .

JD, i don't disagree, what's special about this case is the wealth of evidence. that they've already attempted to pay her off speaks volumes.

[Nomen luni]

Yep, this is another of those that is 'too big' for your man in the street to comprehend or buy into.

[uranian]

disagree to some extent nomen...i talked to my brother about this, for example, a typical suit, and he's now a member of a facebook group about hollie. people are gradually realising that the MSM is less than straightforward, and gradually turning it off:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/56f0004m/2006014/c-g/c-g-2-eng.gif

[Nomen luni]

Hope you are right, Uranian. I was talking about the implications of how high this thing goes rather than whether Hollie was raped, which I don't see anyone disputing.

My attempts to convince friends that something is severely askew have been less satisfactory than your own.

Still, I live in hope...

[uranian]

money as debt has always been my starter for 10 when introducing people to the weird and whacky real earth. i think if there's any metric to whether people are waking up, it is MSM viewing figures...here's another chart to warm the heart:

Daily Newspaper Readership by Age Group Percentage reading newspapers in an average week, 1999-2005

http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2006/images/narrative%20charts/newspapers/aud_e.jpg

[JDRock]

bump...keep your eye on this one ...research it if you are not familiar with the facts of the case...this is but a tip of the iceberg.

[uranian]

remarkably, there is a political party in the UK actually publicising hollie's case, UKIP (http://www.ukip.org/scotland/news/785-next-holly-greig-demo-1-may). they're even actually slightly entertaining about the whole thing:

Aberdeen South Hustings report (23 April 2010) (http://peteradamsukippckirkcaldycowdenbeath.blogspot.com/)


It will be interesting to see how the BBC stop the candidate's representative getting into the next hustings on Wed 28 Apr 10 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/scotland/8637188.stm

Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers (SACL) bid to win the Aberdeen South constituency received another huge boost last night when the party overcame the odds to score a decisive victory in the first hustings of the campaign. None of the 100 + people in attendance at Peterculter Parish Church left the event in any doubt that the Hollie Greig scandal is the biggest election story – not just in Aberdeen South but throughout the UK.

Robert Green was unable to attend for obvious reasons yet the establishment still took extreme measures to try to prevent the SACL voice being heard. They clearly now realise that Robert Green is not a “one man band” and that Hollie’s Army represents an incredible force.

The first publicity about the hustings was released by the BBC around 2330 on Thursday 22nd April – twenty hours before it was due to take place. Clearly the mainstream parties all knew about the event a long time before this and the intention was that the audience would consist solely of their own supporters. They clearly underestimated the strength, determination and brainpower of Hollies Army.

SACL first heard about this event, quite by accident, at 1130 on Friday morning. Yet within 8 hours we had managed to mobilise Hollie’s Army and had 12 of our supporters in the audience in the church hall in the prosperous suburb of Peterculter.

SACL’ s Regional Co-ordinator, John Taylor, arrived at the church hall at 1915 and asked to speak to the event organiser. John explained the reasons why Robert was unable to attend in person and asked that, in the interests of democracy, SACL Chief Election Strategist, Adam Tindall, be allowed equal billing with the other candidates

The organiser was clearly flummoxed by this and tried to fob us off by saying that the debate would be on “Westminster Issues”. We asked if he would ask the other participants if they would object to the SACL being given equal billing. (The other participants were the sitting Labour MP, Anne Begg, plus the parliamentary candidates from Conservatives, LibDems and SNP, and a representative of the Green Party).

The organiser went away and returned to confirm that the other participants had unanimously agreed that SACL should NOT be given equal billing. We insisted that, at the very minimum, the presence of an official SACL representative should be announced and that he be allowed to state our manifesto.

The debate began with the main participants being allowed 60 seconds each to introduce themselves. The attendance of the SACL representative was announced although Adam was not given the opportunity to speak at this stage. Some members of the audience appeared to find the SACL party name amusing.

The so-called “debate” duly commenced. Some members of Hollie’s Army reported that they felt physically sick as a result of having to listen to the hypocritical hogwash of the mainstream politicians and their placemen in the audience.

During a debate on Afghanistan, John Taylor asked Anne Begg for her views on the suitability of 70 year old Dr Ian Oliver to hold the position of Head of Justice and Security in Helmand province. Dr Oliver was Chief Constable of Grampian Police between 1990 and 1998 before resigning in disgrace. Miss Begg claimed to be unaware that Dr Oliver now held this position and would not comment on his suitability or otherwise. A subsequent google search for “Anne Begg” and “Afghanistan” produced over 1,000 results.

An hour or so into the debate SACL gained the impression that we may not be given the chance to speak. Adam Tindall grabbed the microphone and told the audience that the candidates had denied SACL equal billing and that we had been promised that we would be allowed to read out our manifesto. The organiser, somewhat sheepishly, said that we would get our chance to do this at the end of the debate.

When the main debate ended Adam was given the microphone and he delivered a barnstorming speech which electrified the audience. He clearly stated the allegations made by Hollie Greig, our concerns over the death of Roy Greig and the establishment’s efforts to cover the story up. The reason why Robert Green was unable to attend was clearly explained and the audience were invited to “Google Hollie Greig”.

One did not need to be an expert in body language, to realise that the candidates, particularly Anne Begg and the SNP candidate, were extremely uncomfortable at this turn of events. Unfortunately for them, there was worse to come.

Adam passed the microphone to “Mr Scotland”, star of the Paul Drockton Show, who relayed his own personal experiences of institutionalised child abuse and injustice in Aberdeen. He then went on to explain to the audience how unhelpful Anne Begg had been over the course of many meetings. By this stage, Miss Begg was looking decidedly queasy and she attempted to stammer out some response. The organiser came to her rescue by suggesting that Miss Begg and “Mr Scotland” continue their discussion after the meeting had ended.

The debate closed with the main participants being allowed a couple of minutes each to make closing comments. There was frequent spontaneous heckling in response to their hypocrisy and refusal to discuss the big issues.

As the hall emptied, Hollie’s Army split into two battalions. One battalion stationed themselves at the exit and politely handed out leaflets to those leaving. No-one refused a leaflet and by the end of the evening more than a hundred had been handed out, not only at the meeting but at various pubs and takeaways in Peterculter.

The second battalion took it upon themselves to peacefully engage in some “direct democracy” with the would-be MP’s who by this stage were squirming like pigs heading for the slaughterhouse. The Conservative and Green representatives made a sharp exit and were quickly followed by the ashen faced SNP candidate, Mark McDonald , who blurted out an obviously pre-prepared statement “The SNP will not be making any comment on this matter”.

The wheelchair-bound Anne Begg claimed that she had no recollection of ever meeting “Mr Scotland”. Strangely her helper remembered him well. Miss Begg was heckled as she made her exit.

The LibDem candidate, John Sleigh, has high hopes of winning the seat and performed impressively in the controlled environment of the debate. However when faced with the peaceful questioning of Hollie’s Army he gave a good impression of a rabbit caught in car headlights.. When an SACL leaflet was handed to him he recoiled as if fearing that he would be contaminated with bubonic plague if he touched this A5 sheet. He was captured on video stating that he was “too busy” to look into Hollie’s case before being hustled away.

All-in-all a quite extraordinary night which continues the unstoppable momentum hurtling Robert Green towards Westminster.

Stand up for Holly. Stand up for Robert

[Nomen luni]

Uranian, I thought we could open the thread up to stories that add support to the assertion that there are child predators in high places?
If you think it's straying too far OT, I'm happy to edit the post.

"Belgian bishop resigns over abuse of boy:"
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63M1HE20100423

"Future pope stalled pedophile case:"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQ23iMWgAavK2KtnRugJkakF4V4AD9EVMF301

'Conspiracy of Silence'. Aptly named and banned documentary on high level ring in DC:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=359924937663867563#

[JDRock]

bump agin