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MarketNeutral
6th April 2010, 12:38 PM
Somewhere, somehow, Texas will have to find some new money.

It is too soon to say how much extra will be needed to help close the projected shortfall in the state's 2012-13 budget. Estimates of the budget hole range from a very conservative figure of $11 billion to more than $15 billion.

Budget cuts are already in the offing. State leaders are expected to pull the trigger soon on about $1 billion in spending trims, which could include prison guard layoffs and reduced payments to doctors and other Medicaid providers.

But budget watchers say it is unlikely that legislators will be able to cut their way out of the hole when they return to Austin in January.

"History would suggest that budget cuts won't be the sole solution," said Dale Craymer, president of the business-backed Texas Taxpayers and Research Association. While urging caution, Craymer said legislators "have to look at what they can do to raise revenues."

Leading the search for new money is state Rep. Rene Oliveira, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has begun hearings on the issue. All revenue-raising bills must originate in the House.

Oliveira, D-Brownsville, said across-the-board tax hikes are a non-starter.

"I'm not going to waste time on tax increases … if the votes aren't there and the governor is going to veto them," Oliveira said.

Many lawmakers, including Gov. Rick Perry, have signed an Americans for Tax Reform pledge that binds them to oppose "any and all tax increases."

But exactly what constitutes a tax increase will be a matter of much hand-wringing next year, Craymer said.

For now, Oliveira's committee is scouring the tax code for exemptions, exclusions and credits that could be scratched to generate a little scratch.

The severe budget crunch has also opened the door a touch wider for expanded gambling, including casinos and slot machines.

"Is it good for the Texas economy? Is it good for the Texas budget? It is certainly a more palatable alternative to tax increases, which are going to be extremely difficult to pass with this economy and this Legislature," Oliveira said.

Gambling, however, would not be a panacea for the state's long-term budget woes, Oliveira said.

Nor is the rainy day fund, now an $8 billion emergency reserve that is brimming with taxes paid by oil and gas companies during their boom production years of 2007 and 2008.

Experts have warned that the 2014-15 budget could be even more snarled if legislators drain the rainy day fund and use other one-time measures to get them through the immediate crisis next year.

But legislators will probably have to exhaust all of those options in 2011 before swallowing a politically unpopular tax bill or other revenue measure, Craymer said.

"Good money management is not always good politics," Craymer said. "And vice versa."
http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/where-will-texas-find-money-to-fill-budget-522870.html

techguy
6th April 2010, 01:46 PM
Thanks MN. timely article.

MarketNeutral
6th April 2010, 01:49 PM
Thanks MN. timely article.


No worries. Glad you enjoyed it.

Texas: Brutal property tax, high sales tax, tax on prepared food.

Upside is no state income tax - but those other taxes sure make up for it.

$11B in the hole will be a challenge for the Lone Star State citizens.

cedarchopper
6th April 2010, 02:31 PM
The property tax is so high now that any further significant increase will cause revolt...they'll do it through cuts, sales tax increases, and the backdoor corporate income tax. People will regret that they didn't consider Debra Medina as a serious candidate...but of course, you can't win when the party you are running on is all out to destroy you.

techguy
6th April 2010, 02:56 PM
The property tax is so high now that any further significant increase will cause revolt...they'll do it through cuts, sales tax increases, and the backdoor corporate income tax. People will regret that they didn't consider Debra Medina as a serious candidate...but of course, you can't win when the party you are running on is all out to destroy you.



Tell me about it, my property taxes last year were OBSCENE........Right at 1 month's salary.

My longer term plan is to move to a large lot of land and claim an ag exemption. It is the only way.

Dave Thomas
6th April 2010, 03:04 PM
Or move out of Texas (Gasp)

I hear they make ya wait about 4 years before the exemption is proven and kicks in. Kinda sucks.

Apparition
6th April 2010, 03:07 PM
Maybe end governmental subsidies and services for illegals, if any of the politicians have the balls and sanity to do it?

CJay8
6th April 2010, 03:11 PM
The property tax is so high now that any further significant increase will cause revolt...they'll do it through cuts, sales tax increases, and the backdoor corporate income tax. People will regret that they didn't consider Debra Medina as a serious candidate...but of course, you can't win when the party you are running on is all out to destroy you.


Talked with a colleague today that lives outside Houston. He pays $14,000 in property tax. That's insane. That's comparable to what colleagues in New York and New Jersey are paying. I had no idea taxes were that high in Texas.

cedarchopper
6th April 2010, 03:43 PM
You have to buy land with the ag exemption already in place because they make it very difficult and it takes years. Next house I build I'm going to make it look like a used metal outbuilding, and hide it - use my stone and timber on the inside - fork em.

mick silver
6th April 2010, 06:36 PM
dam i thought texas was doing good ... hell it look like no state is safe . the game that just keeps giving

Grog
6th April 2010, 07:14 PM
bah... >:(

We are better poised than most.

We have oil, cows, crops, water, land, and a lot of guns! (oh and some cheap labor too...)

Property taxes suck but oh well. I hate taxes as much as the next guy but income tax is the worst of all taxes IMO.

11B debt ain't squat compared to Cali or some other states, or the Fed. We have a speed bump. Plenty of jobs and no worries here.

Texas was bankrupt from the start. That is one of the reasons we joined the US in the first place. 1:10 write off on our debts was a big consideration, no? ;) (In some ways we got more than a 1:10 but that is anecdotal and belongs in another thread. which I will discuss if you wish.)

Texas' debt doesn't worry me in the least. Texas isn't printing currency last time I checked. Look at that Fed debt then come talk to me.

Texas has always been able to, and in the foreseeable future will be able to, cover its obligations.

We could secede, get a 3.5% tax cut, and not experience any loss in services.

Grog

Grog
6th April 2010, 07:24 PM
Property taxes are set by the counties, not the state.

My taxes are fractional of what was posted above.

Ag exceptions provide lower still.

FiftySense
6th April 2010, 07:51 PM
If Rick Perry wasn't in bed with the Lottery Commission things would be sailing a lot smoother with the budget.