Grandmaster Bobby Fischer

[Nordmann]

I dedicate this thread to the memory of Bobby Fischer.

Here's an interview with him on 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xXEi3qncw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0O4GDF2D_k

Here's his final interview.

Part 1 of Bobby Fischer's last interview. Speaks about Iran and North Korea and how he is robbed by the USA and the Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty9F3yLjSmc

Part 2 of Bobby Fischer's last interview. Speaks about he was radiated and how the USA and Jews robbed him of millions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYcC6NfIaYk&feature=related

Part 3 Bobby Fischer, tells you how the USA and Jews have corrupted him. This interview took place on October 16 2006, in Iceland Reykjavik, where in 1972 he had won the World Championship. Enjoy. RIP BOBBY FISCHER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuSFZGTYdUo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epF65wcgeNA

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm0Ci_xeleo

[Gaillo]

The chess game of the century. I was AMAZED when I played this through:

[Event "New York Rosenwald"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "1956.10.07"]
[White "Byrne,Donald"]
[Black "Fischer,Robert James"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D97"]

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.d4 0-0 5.Bf4 d5 6.Qb3 dxc4 7.Qxc4 c6 8.e4 Nbd7
9.Rd1 Nb6 10.Qc5 Bg4 11.Bg5 Na4 12.Qa3 Nxc3 13.bxc3 Nxe4 14.Bxe7 Qb6 15.Bc4 Nxc3 16.Bc5 Rfe8+
17.Kf1 Be6 18.Bxb6 Bxc4+ 19.Kg1 Ne2+ 20.Kf1 Nxd4+ 21.Kg1 Ne2+ 22.Kf1 Nc3+ 23.Kg1 axb6 24.Qb4 Ra4
25.Qxb6 Nxd1 26.h3 Rxa2 27.Kh2 Nxf2 28.Re1 Rxe1 29.Qd8+ Bf8 30.Nxe1 Bd5 31.Nf3 Ne4 32.Qb8 b5
33.h4 h5 34.Ne5 Kg7 35.Kg1 Bc5+ 36.Kf1 Ng3+ 37.Ke1 Bb4+ 38.Kd1 Bb3+ 39.Kc1 Ne2+ 40.Kb1 Nc3+
41.Kc1 Rc2+ 0-1

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9GKCpwAtjM

[Horn]

Why didn't the white queen attack the knight when exposed to the black rook @ 1:07?

Nevermind I saw the black bishop.

[Libertarian_Guard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yN_MJMLMeA&feature=related

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpxih4sAokg

[MNeagle]

Court rules Bobby Fischer's body can be exhumed

Iceland's supreme court Thursday ruled in favor of a request by Jinky Young, the alleged daughter of Bobby Fischer, to exhume the chess master's remains, Young's lawyer told CNN.

This story is developing. We'll bring you the latest information as we get it.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/17/court-rules-bobby-fischers-body-can-be-exhumed/?hpt=T2

[Nordmann]

He claimed to have been radiated when imprisoned in in Japan.

[Grand Master Melon]

Fischer was a Rothschild.

[MNeagle]

More details on the paternity testing wanted:

Icelandic court allows exhumation of chess great Bobby Fischer in paternity suit

http://www.startribune.com/world/96554544.html?page=1&c=y

[Neuro]

Fischer was a Rothschild.
I was searching for a connection between Bobby Fischer and Rothschild, and stumbled on this thread at ynet... If someone thought this Forum was hateful think again...
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/App/TalkBack/CdaViewOpenTalkBack/0,11382,L-3496023,00.html

Btw I would appreciate some more info on Bobby Fischer and Rothschild, if you have...

[MNeagle]

Lawyers: DNA tests prove chess icon Bobby Fischer not biological father of 9-year-old girl

http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/179*260/2fischer0119.bb.jpg

LONDON - DNA tests have shown that chess genius Bobby Fischer was not the father of a 9-year-old girl from the Philippines, bringing a paternity claim against his estate to a close, two lawyers familiar with the case said Tuesday.

The test result was announced in Reykjavik District Court, said lawyer Gudjon Olafur Jonsson, who represents Fischer's two American nephews in their own claim on his estate.

Fischer's remains were exhumed in July so samples could be taken to determine if he had fathered Jinky Young, whose mother Marilyn said she had a relationship with the chess icon. Jinky, who lives in the Philippines with her mother, flew to Iceland last year to provide her own sample.

"I can confirm that the result of the DNA report excluded Bobby Fisher from being the father of Jinky Young, and therefore the case has come to a close," said lawyer Thordur Bogason, who represents Jinky.

Though the paternity case has ended, the wrangling over Fischer's estate continues. He died aged 64 in Iceland in January 2008, leaving no will.

Jonsson said the elimination of the paternity claim simplifies the case between Fischer's nephews and the woman who was his long-term partner. The case is scheduled to be heard in Reykjavik next month, Jonsson said, adding he hopes for a result by the end of the year.

Fischer was born in Chicago and raised in Brooklyn, New York. His 1972 defeat of Boris Spassky of the Soviet Union for the world chess championship � a tournament that was played in Reykjavik � made him world-famous and an American hero.

But later, Fischer would become an erratic figure, losing his world title in 1975 after refusing to defend it and then dropping out of competitive chess.

He spent time in the Philippines and Hungary, and was arrested in Japan in 2004. Fischer was threatened with extradition to the U.S. to face charges of breaking international sanctions against the former Yugoslavia by playing a chess match there in 1992.

Fischer renounced his American citizenship, and was then taken in by Iceland in 2005, a chess-loving nation, which gave him citizenship. Fischer is buried about 30 miles (50 kilometers) east of the capital, Reykjavik.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/100915439.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUi D3aPc:_Yyc:aUUr

[sirgonzo420]

Fischer was a Rothschild.


Yeah, but he was a good 'un.

[Still Barbaro]

Appreciate the OP. Fisher is brilliant, and eccentric.

But in many of his words I see it the way he does.

Where if Bobby Fisher now? I'm off to google.

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7APJ4dr78
Re-post since the first one got removed.

Bobby Fischer wasn't a Jew, it's just something the Jews say in order to make people disregard what he had to say.

[sirgonzo420]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7APJ4dr78
Re-post since the first one got removed.

Bobby Fischer wasn't a Jew, it's just something the Jews say in order to make people disregard what he had to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7APJ4dr78
Re-post since the first one got removed.

Bobby Fischer wasn't a Jew, it's just something the Jews say in order to make people disregard what he had to say.



No, he WAS a jew.

[Nordmann]

They're parasites. And They've been parasites for thousands of years.

..But Bobby. Execution is to much.. eh?

Well. No i wish it was more.. maybe i said too few, few hundred thousands. Maybe it should be in the millions should be executed. (hysterical laughter)

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7APJ4dr78
Re-post since the first one got removed.

Bobby Fischer wasn't a Jew, it's just something the Jews say in order to make people disregard what he had to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7APJ4dr78
Re-post since the first one got removed.

Bobby Fischer wasn't a Jew, it's just something the Jews say in order to make people disregard what he had to say.



No, he WAS a jew.




Nah, you know this is something which turns people away from the truth of his messages. "he was just a self-hating Jew so therefore it is alright"

It is to appease the jews, nothing else.

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QryuMf8qZ0g

More of this great man.

[sirgonzo420]

Nah, you know this is something which turns people away from the truth of his messages. "he was just a self-hating Jew so therefore it is alright"

It is to appease the jews, nothing else.


He really was jewish though. His mom was jewish and they even lived in a jewish neighborhood.

He is a jew by birth. However, once he wised up to what jewry was doing he rejected the jews of the world.

Sure, the jews call him a "self-loathing jew" but he WAS born jewish, and he DID disapprove very much of jewry.

It is what it is.

[Nordmann]

I don't believe it for a second. He doesn't act, talk or look Jewish.

I have very sharp racial instincts and they tell me that he is not Jewish. The only sources i have seen for this claim is a Lamestream media docu on youtube.

[uncletonoose]

I don't believe it for a second. He doesn't act, talk or look Jewish.

I have very sharp racial instincts and they tell me that he is not Jewish. The only sources i have seen for this claim is a Lamestream media docu on youtube.


This is from Wiki, for all that it's worth:

Early years

Bobby Fischer was born at Michael Reese Hospital in Chicago, Illinois on March 9, 1943.[10] His birth certificate listed his father as Hans-Gerhardt Fischer, a German biophysicist. His mother, Regina Wender Fischer, was an American citizen of Polish Jewish descent,[11] born in Switzerland and raised in St. Louis, Missouri.[10] She later became a teacher, a registered nurse, and a physician.[12] The couple married in 1933 in Moscow, USSR, where Regina was studying medicine at the First Moscow Medical Institute. They divorced in 1945 when Bobby was two years old, and he grew up with his mother and older sister, Joan. In 1948, the family moved to Mobile, Arizona, where Regina taught in an elementary school. The following year they moved to Brooklyn, New York, where she worked as an elementary school teacher and nurse.

[sirgonzo420]

I don't believe it for a second. He doesn't act, talk or look Jewish.

I have very sharp racial instincts and they tell me that he is not Jewish. The only sources i have seen for this claim is a Lamestream media docu on youtube.



His mother was a jew, which makes Bobby a jew in the eyes of jewry and jewish law.

Bobby always rejected that, and never saw himself as a jew.

But by birth according to halakha, he is jewish.

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

Here is one such source, just look at who is saying those words. Do you trust these faces? I don't. They are obviously all paid for.

[sirgonzo420]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

Here is one such source, just look at who is saying those words. Do you trust these faces? I don't. They are obviously all paid for.


He was jewish!

His mother was a jew.

He didn't like it either, but it's true.

[uncletonoose]

Also from Wikipedia

Anti-semitic statements

Fischer, whose mother was Jewish,[13][14][15][131] made numerous hateful anti-Jewish statements and professed a general hatred for Jews since at least the early 1960s.[131][274] In 1961, he "made his first public statements despising Jews."[275] Jan Hein Donner wrote that at the time of Bled 1961, "He idolized Hitler and read everything about him that he could lay his hands on. He also championed a brand of antisemitism that could only be thought up by a mind completely cut off from reality."[107] Donner writes that he took Fischer to a war museum, which "left a great impression, since he is not an evil person, and afterwards he was more restrained in his remarks—to me, at least".[107]

From the 1980s and thereafter, however, Fischer's comments about Jews were a major theme of his public and private remarks.[276] He openly denied the Holocaust and announced his desire to make "expos[ing] the Jews for the criminals they are [...] the murderers they are" his lifework, and argued that the United States is "a farce controlled by dirty, hook-nosed, circumcised Jew bastards."[277]

In 1984, Fischer denied being a Jew in a letter to the Encyclopedia Judaica, insisting that they remove his name and accusing them of "fraudulently misrepresenting me to be a Jew [...] to promote your religion".[278] Although it was reported that Fischer as a teenager acknowledged that his mother was Jewish,[131] Fischer was later reported to have denied his Jewish ancestry.[15]

In the last years of his life, Fischer's primary means of communicating with the public was via sometimes-outrageous radio interviews. He participated in at least 34 such broadcasts between 1999 and 2006, mostly with radio stations in the Philippines, but also with stations in Hungary, Iceland, Colombia, and Russia. In 1999, he gave a call-in interview to a radio station in Budapest, Hungary, during which he described himself as the "victim of an international Jewish conspiracy." In another radio interview, Fischer said that it became clear to him in 1977, after reading The Secret World Government by Count Cherep-Spiridovich, that Jewish agencies were targeting him.[279] Fischer's sudden re-emergence was apparently triggered when some of his belongings, which had been stored in a Pasadena, California storage unit, were sold by the landlord who claimed it was in response to nonpayment of rent.[280] In 2005, some of Fischer's belongings were auctioned on eBay. In 2006, Fischer claimed that his belongings in the storage unit were worth millions.[281][282]

Fischer's library contained anti-Semitic and white supremacist literature such as Mein Kampf, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and The White Man's Bible and Nature's Eternal Religion by Ben Klassen, founder of the Church of the Creator.[283][284] A notebook written by Fischer is filled with sentiments such as "8/24/99 Death to the Jews. Just kill the Motherfuckers!" and "12/13/99 It's time to start randomly killing Jews."[285]
[edit] Anti-American and anti-Israel statements

Anti-American and anti-Israel statements

A little after Midnight on September 12, Philippines local time (four hours after the September 11, 2001 attacks in the U.S.), Fischer was interviewed live by Pablo Mercado on the Baguio City station of the Bombo Radyo network. Fischer commented on U.S and Israeli foreign policy, saying "I applaud the act. Look nobody gets.. no one.. that the US and Israel have been slaughtering the Palestinians for years."[286][287][288] He also said "All the crimes the US is committing all over the world ... This just shows, what goes around, that comes around even to the United States."[286][287] After calling for U.S. President George W. Bush's death, Fischer then repeats this phrase, saying "I say death to President Bush! I say death to the United States! Fuck the United States! Fuck the Jews! [...] They are the worst liars and bastards. Now what goes around comes around. They're getting it back, finally. Praise God [...] This is a wonderful day. Fuck the United States. Cry, you crybabies! Whine, you bastards! Now your time is coming."[286] Fischer also recalls the movie Seven Days in May and said he hopes for a military coup d'état in the US, "hoping [...] the country will be taken over by the military, they'll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders, and you know, apologize to the Arabs, kill off all the Jews over there in the bandit state, you know, of Israel. I'm hoping for a totally new world."

In response, on October 28, 2001, Fischer's right to membership in the United States Chess Federation was permanently revoked by a unanimous 7–0 vote of the USCF's Policy Board.[289]

Fischer drafted a letter to Osama bin Laden, which began:[290][291]

Dear Mr. Osama bin Laden allow me to introduce myself. I am Bobby Fischer, the World Chess Champion. First of all you should know that I share your hatred of the murderous bandit state of "Israel" and its chief backer the Jew-controlled U.S.A. also know [sic] as the "Jewnited States" or "Israel West." We also have something else in common: We are both fugitives from the U.S. "justice" system.

After Fischer's death, chess columnist Shelby Lyman, who in 1972 had hosted the PBS broadcast of that year's Championship, said that "the anti-American stuff is explained by the fact that ... he spent the rest of his life [after the match in Yugoslavia] fleeing the US, because he was afraid of being extradited".[292] In Bobby Fischer: The Wandering King, authors IM Hans Böhm and Kees Jongkind write that Fischer's radio broadcasts show that he was "out of his mind ... a victim of his own mental illness".[293]

[Nordmann]

There is no evidence of a Jewish lifestyle, connection to any synagogue or nothing in what little information that is readily available, if this was a clear case I'd expect to see more than just circumstantial evidence.

[Nordmann]

This is however a real Jew.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ0qYBpIplY

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

Here is one such source, just look at who is saying those words. Do you trust these faces? I don't. They are obviously all paid for.


He was jewish!

His mother was a jew.

He didn't like it either, but it's true.


Did you take your time to see the video?
*edit* no, you didn't because you could not have seen it in the time it took you to reply.

[Panoptimist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

Here is one such source, just look at who is saying those words. Do you trust these faces? I don't. They are obviously all paid for.


He was jewish!

His mother was a jew.

He didn't like it either, but it's true.


Did you take your time to see the video?
*edit* no, you didn't because you could not have seen it in the time it took you to reply.


You just don't get it, do you?

[Nordmann]

No, i don't.

I just want others to see how the information is presented and their take on it.

[Nordmann]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdZTWnyqolk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdZTWnyqolk)

[SHTF2010]

born jewish or not

paraphrasing - " by his actions shall he be known "

[lapis]

Instead of starting a new thread, I'm piggybacking on this one in order to share some info. about the latest Fischer biography called Endgame.

I know virtually nothing about him or chess (in fact I don't even like the game), but the dustjacket looked good so I checked it out of the library. It's very engrossing so far, and I'm only up to page 92.

So far there's no mention of anti-semitism, but there's an interesting anecdote about an eccentric wealthy neo-nazi who showed interest in Fischer when he was young, and paid some of his expenses:
As Bobby was becoming more involved in the world of chess, he attracted the attention of a wealthy and unusual man named E. Forry Laucks. A chess player himself, Laucks liked to surround himself with other players, many of them offbeat and highly talented. He was always generous to Regina [Fischer's mother] with small amounts of money–$25 to $100–for tournament entry fees and other expenses. During the spring of 1956, Laucks gathered a group of chess players for a thirty-five-hundred mile motor trip through the southern United States and ultimately to Cuba, stopping off at towns and cities for a series of matches with local clubs.

So that twelve-year-old Bobby could participate in the barnstorming jaunt to Cuba, Regina allowed him to withdraw from school temporarily. Her thinking was the trip would be educational, exposing her son to new places and different people. However, she agreed to Bobby’s participation only if she could serve as his chaperone. Laucks didn’t know or care that Regina, and therefore Bobby, was Jewish, nor did Regina seem too concerned about Laucks’s neo-Nazi (someone called him “an old Nazi”) allegiance. The idea of travel, especially to the politically exploseive country of Cuba, stimulated Regina’s wanderlust. Permission from the Community Haywood School was forthcoming for Bobby’s three-week absence, and the boy was delighted to be on the road playing chess instead of being in the classroom.

Laucks frequently wore a small, black-enameled lapel pin bearing a gold Nazi swastika. Amazingly, it never seemed to attract much attention. He didn’t wear it all the time, but often enough, and it didn’t seem to inhibit him when he went to a Jewish delicatessen to get his favorite sandwich of pastrami on rye, or when he was talking to Jewish chess players. One player, William Schneider, said he was embarrassed when he and Laucks–sporting his swastika–were driving back from a tournament and they stopped at a Jewish restaurant. Now one said anything about the swastika, or even seemed to notice it. In addition to the pin, Laucks often wore–weather permitting–a small-brimmed Alpine fedora with a feather in the band, adorned with emblems from the countries to which he’d traveled. He ostentationsly dressed in lederhosen at times, and for a few years even sported a Hitlerian mustache. When he entered a tournament, dressed in khaki shirt and pants and dark tie and displaying that mustache, it was as if a doppelganger of Der Fueher had been incarnated. In his home he hung Nazi flags in prominent locations and displayed airplane models of Messerschmitts and Junkers as well as an oil painting of Adolf Hitler and other memorabilia from the Third Reich.

Laucks was inarguably one of the most eccentric people in the New York chess community, with conflicting values and erratic behavior. But despite his Nazi trappings, he rarely talked about his political beliefs. His financial patronage of teams and players could always be relied upon, and he was the sponsor of many chess events, some major. He’d also formed a fully functioning chess club–the Log Cabin Chess Club–that met in his finished basement (decorated to look like a log cabin) of his spacious house in West Orange, New Jersey. A number of players, some outcasts or close to homeless but with master-level playing ability, actually lived–on and off–in the house with him. Laucks’s wife and two children lived in another house, in Old Lyme, Connecticut, and Laucks rarely visited them, preferring to stay in New Jersey with his chess cronies.

Aside from her self-serving desire to travel, Regina insisted on being part of the tour because she didn’t trust one of its participants: the shifty-eyed Norman T. Whitaker. He was a disbarred lawyer who’d served years in Alcatraz and Leavenworth for a variety of crimes and confidence schemes, including the extortion of more than $100,000 by claiming (falsely) that he knew the whereabouts of the missing Lindbergh baby. Whitaker, known as “The Fox,” the name he was referred to in the Lindbergh duping, had also been imprisoned for car theft and raping a twelve-year-old girl. When he was in his sixties, he proposed marriage to a fourteen-year-old. Regina worried that his pedophiliac tendencies might apply to boys as well as girls, and she didn’t want him to be alone with Bobby on the trip. Why Whitaker was accepted as a part of the Log Cabin team or in the chess community at all is a difficult question to answer, beyond noting that at the time of Laucks’s journey Whitaker was still a powerful player at age sixty-six, and in his prime he had been one of the strongest players in the nation. He also had a charming way about him, as do most confidence men. His chess prowess and velvet tongue may have blinded some people to his despicable past, proving the adage that sometimes chess players make strange team fellows.
Can you imagine children today being allowed to miss school for three weeks and have these kinds of traveling companions? CPS would surely be called.

In an intervew (http://www.thevillager.com/villager_250/mentorhelpedyoung.html) with The Villager, the writer of the biography, Frank Brady, says of Laucks, “He had a good heart but he was a neo-Nazi,”

From what Brady describes, I'd say that Laucks was a neo-Nazi and had a good heart. It doesn't appear that he pushed his beliefs on Bobby or his Jewish mother, Regina.

It's intriguing that Laucks went into Jewish delis and talked to other Jewish chess players while wearing a gold swastika, but no one seemed bothered by it.

The Fifties were supposedly a time of deep conservatism and closed-mindedness, but if this anecdote, limited as it is is even remotely true, it was a time far more free and in which it was still possible to live in the spirit of a "live and let live" philosophy that is virtually impossible today.

[lapis]

Some other interesting things:

In a couple of places the author makes remarks like this:

(Regarding The $64,000 Question show, page 85)
"Regina Fischer was also atypically giddy about Bobby's prospects, and Bobby, for his part, was excited about using his immense knowledge of the game and the possibility of going all the way, emerging with $64,000 (equivalent to about a half million dollars in today's wealth)"
Page 116:

"Larsen was his second, he was being paid $700--equivalent to about $5,000 today"

:o:o:o

Are these sums equivalent? If so, talk about the collapse of the dollar's buying ability!

When I was in college back in the 80s, my English Lit professors used to tell us to put a zero or two after sums of money mentioned in novels in order to give us an idea of the prices in 80s dollars, but we were talking about the 19th or 18th century! Not compared to a mere 45 years ago.

[Dogman]

Some other interesting things:

In a couple of places the author makes remarks like this:

(Regarding The $64,000 Question show, page 85)
"Regina Fischer was also atypically giddy about Bobby's prospects, and Bobby, for his part, was excited about using his immense knowledge of the game and the possibility of going all the way, emerging with $64,000 (equivalent to about a half million dollars in today's wealth)"
Page 116:

"Larsen was his second, he was being paid $700--equivalent to about $5,000 today"

:o:o:o

Are these sums equivalent? If so, talk about the collapse of the dollar's buying ability!

When I was in college back in the 80s, my English Lit professors used to tell us to put a zero or two after sums of money mentioned in novels in order to give us an idea of the prices in 80s dollars, but we were talking about the 19th or 18th century! Not compared to a mere 45 years ago. Yep

The dollar did go a lot farther then as far as buying power. So the 700 = 5000 is close to the truth. In the 50-60's . Hell I bought gas at .15 during gas war's that usually sold for .25 cents a gallon.

[lapis]

In another interesting anecdote, Brady describes how Regina was approached by a couple of suits from the FBI:
Returning home one afternoon from her hospital shift, Regina was approached in front of her apartment house [...] by two sunglassed men, conservatively dressed. "Mrs Fischer? Regina Fischer?"

"Yes?" she said.

The men flashed their credentials: They were FBI agents.

"What's this about?"

"May we go inside? We don't like to talk on the street." [And why is this anyone's problem but their own? I hate it when people are asked this by The Law in movies or teevee, and people immediately let them in their home. Talk about conditioning the sheeple!]

"Before I do anything," said Regina, "tell me what you want."

"We just want to ask you some questions."

Regina demurred: "I don't want to answer anything unless I have my lawyer present."

"What are you afraid of? Do you have something to hide?"

"I'm not afraid of anything," Regina answered, "and I hae nothing to hide. I just don't want to talk to you unless I have my lawyers with me."

With that, she walked proudly away, entered the vestibule of her building, and trudged upstairs.
No tazing, no pepper spraying, no indefinite detention. Hard to imagine anyone walking away from that type of questioning unscathed these days, isn't it?

However, Regina was under surveillance, and had been so since 1942 when the Justice Dept. suspected her of being a Soviet spy. The Fischer home telephone was tapped, and Regina was being shadowed. Her work associates and neighbors were questioned.

The investigation went on for nearly fifty years and generated 750 pages of reports "costing the American taxpayers hundreds of thousands--if not millions--of dollars, all ending with a whimper, nary a bang, since nothing definitive was ever found about any espionage activity on Regina's part." In fact, Regina had been kicked out of the Communist Party!

These kinds of reports cost us plenty of money, but you can bet whoever is on the receiving end of the moolah is loathe for us to not have one enemy or another to continue this gravy train! Communists then, Muslims now. Cha-ching!

[D sciple]

Perhaps Fischer could say with a clear conscience he wasn't a Jew because he knows he was a khazar. Since 1/3rd of the SS were Jews themselves, and Nazi is likely taken from Ashkenazi, perhaps Laucks could wear a swastika amongst Jews because Jews know that was really their team. (assuming you had that Jewish, Italian, darkish look)

[lapis]

Perhaps Fischer could say with a clear conscience he wasn't a Jew because he knows he was a khazar.

I don't know; it hasn't been brought up yet. However, the book mentions that he may have had a Bar Mitzvah:
"Fischer, who much later in live would gain notoriety for his anti-Jewish rhetoric, always said that although his mother was Jewish, he had no religious training. It is not known whether Bobby, on or near his thirteenth birthday of March 9, 1956, participated in the formal Jewish ritual of Bar Mitzvah, reading Hebrew from the Torah at a synagogue. However, his chess friend Karl Burger said that when he played twelve-year-old Bobby in the park On Rochester Avenue in Brooklyn, the boy 'was studying for his Bar Mitzvah.' Also supporting the belief that Bobby had experienced the ritual was the fact that, many years later, he gave an old chess clock and chess set to his Hungarian friend Pal Benko, a grandmaster. Bobby had been keeping them among his belongs and told Benko that they were gifts he'd 'received for his Bar Mitzvah'" (page 53.)
The book goes on to say that it's likely he didn't have a formal Bar Mitzvah because his single mother wouldn't have had the money to pay for the year-long instructions to get him prepared for the ceremony. But I think it's possible his maternal grandfather could have paid for it.


Since 1/3rd of the SS were Jews themselves, and Nazi is likely taken from Ashkenazi, perhaps Laucks could wear a swastika amongst Jews because Jews know that was really their team. (assuming you had that Jewish, Italian, darkish look)Most Ashkenazi Jews today know that's what they are, but I don't know if they'd be as sanguine about someone appearing among them, say in their place of business wearing a swastika.

But the reason why I bring it up is that I think it's nice that in the world of chess, people sometimes could put aside their political beliefs and differences and just be human beings enjoying a game together.

Nowadays people are so identified with their beliefs and political parties that even the slightest opposition to these positions causes them to get to get bent out of shape.

Edited to add: Even a total Nazi like Laucks didn't let his anti-semitism get in the way of enjoying a pastrami on rye!

[lapis]

If what this book reveals about Jews is any indication, it's no wonder they're taking over the world. Bobby's mother, despite having to work really hard (sometimes taking two jobs) to support herself and her kids, still studied languages and developed her intellect. She was fluent in several languages, and pushed Bobby to learn some too.

The chess clubs at the time had mostly Jewish members who were doctors, lawyers, and professors. The Tribe sure values learning and intellectualism, things average Amurricans scorn to their detriment. They are born and bred to be dumbass slaves, and instead of seeing that, they relish their anti-intellectual boorishness. They'd rather be illiterate boobs than be seen as bookish.

[sirgonzo420]

If what this book reveals about Jews is any indication, it's no wonder they're taking over the world. Bobby's mother, despite having to work really hard (sometimes taking two jobs) to support herself and her kids, still studied languages and developed her intellect. She was fluent in several languages, and pushed Bobby to learn some too.

The chess clubs at the time had mostly Jewish members who were doctors, lawyers, and professors. The Tribe sure values learning and intellectualism, things average Amurricans scorn to their detriment. They are born and bred to be dumbass slaves, and instead of seeing that, they relish their anti-intellectual boorishness. They'd rather be illiterate boobs than be seen as bookish.

Hey, not all gentiles are idiots.

I am of modest means, but I still find time to study languages and "develop my intellect". Many people don't care to do such things. I get lambasted here because hebrew happens to be one of the languages I study.

[lapis]

Hey, not all gentiles are idiots.

I am of modest means, but I still find time to study languages and "develop my intellect". Many people don't care to do such things.

That's what I'm talking about! But good for you.


I get lambasted here because hebrew happens to be one of the languages I study.Wow, I have to hand it to you, those right-to-left languages are really daunting!

I wonder if you get lambasted because the ones who are doing the lambasting don't want to/can't put in the effort it takes to learn something intellectually new and demanding?

[lapis]

Hey, not all gentiles are idiots.

No, but more and more I'm starting to agree with H.L. Mencken about this country; it seems like what he described in the thirties is even worse now:

The U.S. is essentially a commonwealth of third rate men [...] The land was peopled, not by the hardy adventurers of legend but simply by incompetents who could not get on at home [...]The truth is that the majority of non-Anglo-Saxon immigrants since the Revolution, like the majority of Anglo-Saxon immigrants before the Revolution, have been, not the superior men of their native lands, but the botched and unfit: Irishmen starving to death in Ireland, Germans unable to weather the Sturm und Drang of the post-Napoleonic reorganization, Italians weed-grown on exhausted soil, Scandinavians run to all bone and no brain, Jews too incompetent to swindle even the barbarous peasants of Russia, Poland and Roumania. Here and there among the immigrants, of course, there may be a bravo, or even a superman--e.g., the ancestors of Volstead, Ponzi, Jack Dempsey, Schwab, Daugherty, Debs, Pershing--but the average newcomer is, and always has been, simply a poor fish...

Around every one of his principal delusions--of the sacredness of democracy, of the feasibility of sumptuary law, of the incurable sinfulness of all other peoples, of the menace of ideas, of the corruption lying in all the arts--there is thrown a barrier of taboos, and woe to the anarchist who seeks to break it down!

From "On Being an American."

[sirgonzo420]

That's what I'm talking about! But good for you.

Wow, I have to hand it to you, those right-to-left languages are really daunting!


It's a bit different, right-to-left, that's for sure! When typing is when it really messes with me, because the controls are reversed.


I wonder if you get lambasted because the ones who are doing the lambasting don't want to/can't put in the effort it takes to learn something intellectually new and hard?

I dunno, but it stands to reason. You'd have to ask Book. There are a few others here who were skittish because I do not let my distaste for zionism/jewry sully my opinion of hebrew (a language that didn't originally belong to "jews" anyway).

I don't catch hell for sanskrit though!

[sirgonzo420]

No, but more and more I'm starting to agree with H.L. Mencken about this country; it seems like what he described in the thirties is even worse now:
The U.S. is essentially a commonwealth of third rate men [...] The land was peopled, not by the hardy adventurers of legend but simply by incompetents who could not get on at home [...]The truth is that the majority of non-Anglo-Saxon immigrants since the Revolution, like the majority of Anglo-Saxon immigrants before the Revolution, have been, not the superior men of their native lands, but the botched and unfit: Irishmen starving to death in Ireland, Germans unable to weather the Sturm und Drang of the post-Napoleonic reorganization, Italians weed-grown on exhausted soil, Scandinavians run to all bone and no brain, Jews too incompetent to swindle even the barbarous peasants of Russia, Poland and Roumania. Here and there among the immigrants, of course, there may be a bravo, or even a superman--e.g., the ancestors of Volstead, Ponzi, Jack Dempsey, Schwab, Daugherty, Debs, Pershing--but the average newcomer is, and always has been, simply a poor fish...

Around every one of his principal delusions--of the sacredness of democracy, of the feasibility of sumptuary law, of the incurable sinfulness of all other peoples, of the menace of ideas, of the corruption lying in all the arts--there is thrown a barrier of taboos, and woe to the anarchist who seeks to break it down!

From "On Being an American."


The land of opportunity! (especially for the tribe)

[Neuro]

Hey, not all gentiles are idiots.

I am of modest means, but I still find time to study languages and "develop my intellect". Many people don't care to do such things. I get lambasted here because hebrew happens to be one of the languages I study.
Just out of curiosity, why do you want to learn hebrew? Any particular reason apart from the intellectual endeavour? Watching Knesset debates? Infiltrating the master race?

[sirgonzo420]

Just out of curiosity, why do you want to learn hebrew? Any particular reason apart from the intellectual endeavour? Watching Knesset debates? Infiltrating the master race?

It started when I was a child and wanted to "get to the bottom" of the Bible, in the original tongues.

My interest in hebrew now is still related to the bible; for example Genesis (bereshit) [בְּרֵאשִׁית‎] is fascinating in hebrew. There are many more planes of meaning than in the english KJV. When one word means FIVE different things at the same time, the english translators would simply pick the meaning they liked the most, and dumb the KJV down. One way to put it is that the english bibles are 2-D while the original is 3-D.

Since I was raised christian, I wanted to know what it *really* said.

Hebrew is interesting too because of it's interconnectedness, and gematria. Every letter has a numerical value and there are relationships between words with the same value. They can even be said to be interchangeable!

If you're a quasi-mystic-skeptic like me, hebrew would be more fun to learn than zulu.

Aussi, je parle français, mais je ne suis pas français. Pour quelque raison, c'est l'hébreu qui tourne les têtes ! ;D

Knowing hebrew might also help with home loans.... I don't know, I don't borrow.

[Neuro]

So I guess that would mean, that the hebrew bible could be interpreted in many more ways than the English bible...

[Dogman]

So I guess that would mean, that the hebrew bible could be interpreted in many more ways than the English bible... Think so, you can put 5 of them together and you will have 17 arguments because of the many meanings of the words used.

[sirgonzo420]

So I guess that would mean, that the hebrew bible could be interpreted in many more ways than the English bible...


Here's an example from the first sentence of the bible. In english, usually rendered:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. but in hebrew is:

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ. or
Bereshit bara Elohim et haShamayim ve'et ha'Eretz.

Bereshit (בְּרֵאשִׁית), instead of meaning simply "In the Beginning", also means "With the Beginning", "In Wisdom", "With Wisdom", "In the head", "With the head", "In the reish (point)" "With the reish (point)". All these are valid, concurrent meanings that are simply left out in the KJV.

And that's just the first *word* of the bible......

And we haven't even gotten into how Elohim (אֱלֹהִים), "God" in english is really a plural word in the original.




***Sorry for the off-topicness.... I should start a new thread....***

[Cebu_4_2]

All this time I just thought Gonzo was a pothead...

[lapis]

And we haven't even gotten into how Elohim (אֱלֹהִים), "God" in english is really a plural word in the original.

Oh yeah that's right, I vaguely remember reading something about that. Any idea who they're referring to? And where the other ones went?


***Sorry for the off-topicness.... I should start a new thread....***You should! Let me know when you do, because I find this fascinating and wouldn't want to miss it. :)

[MNeagle]

Oh yeah that's right, I vaguely remember reading something about that. Any idea who they're referring to? And where the other ones went?

You should! Let me know when you do, because I find this fascinating and wouldn't want to miss it. :)

The trinity of Father, Son & Holy Ghost?

[lapis]

Good guess. Hopefully Sirgonzo will enlighten us soon!

[sirgonzo420]

I started a new thread here: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57163-SirGonzo-s-metaphysical-theo-philo-sophical-Bible-study-mystery-school-thread&p=497928#post497928

Feel free to copy and paste your posts (or not) and we can continue this there.


I'll try to let this thread stay on track now. Lol.

[PatColo]

I haven't listened to this yet; it's a Texe Marrs radio show from '11. 1 hour. In this blog post, Mami's Shit again links to our own GSUS holohoax thread. :)


Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Texe Marrs on Bobby Fischer (1943-2008) (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/texe-marrs-on-bobby-fischer-1943-2008.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHCAaMmNZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHCAaMmNZc

Introduction to the Holocaust Hoax (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/introduction-to-holocaust-hoax.html) < points to GSUS :)

Vintage Scorpio: The strange life of chess grandmaster Bobby Fischer (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/10/vintage-scorpio-strange-life-of-chess.html)

Bobby Fischer Live Radio Interviews

(http://bobbyfischerpage.tripod.com/)

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[PatColo]

Good YT channel to keep an eye on,

Bobby Fischer - A King’s Gambit (Myth20c - Ep115)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoa303HDeiA

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Considered by many as the greatest chess player of all time, Robert James Fischer at an early age showed an aptitude for chess that few others would compare. His rise to dominance was rapid, as was his fall from the public eye and then into notoriety later in life. Bobby Fischer was outspoken, iconoclastic, and unquestionably a genius. -- Brought to you by -- Nick Mason, Adam Smith and Hans Lander - https://myth20c.wordpress.com/2019/04... ~~-- Donations: https://www.patreon.com/MYTH20 --~~ BTC: 16UQ6ukmTjz4Z7Ce4n23bN6tKGnU7XkPeQ - http://theamericansun.com - http://twitter.com/myth20c - myth20c@tutanota.com - http://gab.ai/myth20c -- References -- - The Russians Have Fixed World Chess, Fischer (1962) - https://chessheroes.blogspot.com/2010... - I Was Tortured in the Pasadena Jailhouse, Fischer (1982) - Search for Bobby Fischer, Zaillian (1993) - Miracle, O’Connor (2004) - Bobby Fischer Against the World, Garbus (2011) - Endgame: Bobby Fischer’s Remarkable Rise and Fall, Brady (2011)