Tracking the DOW PLUNGE!!!

[Horn]

They like to round the downs up, and the ups up.

Is better for everybody that way.

[Dogman]

They like to round the downs up, and the ups up.

Is better for everybody that way.Bullshit, they only can make money for so long
after that the house of cards will crash.

[MNeagle]

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634532547762187500

[JohnQPublic]

The Dow is a sow
And too bad the PIIGS
Did not build there house out of BRIC

[Neuro]

Looks like we are set for a plunge today. Hong Kong, Germany and London markets have plunged 3-4% so far today!

G'morning! ;D

[Spectrism]

The Dow is a sow
And too bad the PIIGS
Did not build there house out of BRIC

Nice double meaning turn of words. Did youcome up with that yourself? How dow do we tie Amerika into that poem?



Looks like we are set for a plunge today. Hong Kong, Germany and London markets have plunged 3-4% so far today!
G'morning! ;D

My guess is that this is (at least initially) still mostly a financial play... as the EURO crashes, the dollar looks strong. And the stocks will tank. But eventually the dollar will be sucked into the black hole of reality as they try to hyperinflate their way out of the death star gravity pull. I am expecting we might see soon (at least in part) what should have happened in 2008-2009.

[Neuro]

Dow down 218 now, could be a nice finale today by the look of the graph...

[Neuro]

Dow down 218 now, could be a nice finale today by the look of the graph...

Wtf happened?

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

http://www.finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?ym.png&rev=634533409630000000

BULLSHIT

http://www.finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=GChttp://www.finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=GChttp://www.finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?gc.png&rev=634533409630000000http://www.finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?si.png&rev=634533411532656250

[gunDriller]

Wtf happened?

the Dow is controlled by a monkey ... and the monkey took a bong hit ?

ridiculous, true, but then - so is the US stock market ... and the US gov. ... and Richard Perle ... and Eric Gun Control Holder.

[chad]

european bankers annouced for the 347th time that they are working on bank aid for the eu.

[Neuro]

european bankers annouced for the 347th time that they are working on bank aid for the eu.

Great! When is the concert at Wembley?

[Sparky]

the Dow is controlled by a monkey ... and the monkey took a bong hit ?

ridiculous, true, but then - so is the US stock market ... and the US gov. ... and Richard Perle ... and Eric Gun Control Holder.

Really it's controlled by fund managers with enough money to move the market. Everyone else is the monkey.

[Ares]

Morning plungers!!

DOW opened -280.48

[osoab]

Shouldn't this be considered, especially the today and yesterday, as "Tracking the Bucky's rocket"?

[Ponce]

Nothing is true till it happens......to me the stock market is like a ping pong table where every time the ball goes across the net the biggies make some money........and the loosing sheeps says to them........ THANK YOU.

[Horn]

Shouldn't this be considered, especially the today and yesterday, as "Tracking the Bucky's rocket"?

Waiting for the bonus round.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AejTlMylKMY&feature=related

[MNeagle]

Morning plungers, welcome to 11/9/11

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634564279910468750

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Commodities getting hammered as well. Looks like across the board liquidation. Everything is down but the dollar.

http://finviz.com/futures.ashx

[Neuro]

Morning plungers, welcome to 11/9/11

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634564279910468750

Good start!

[Cebu_4_2]

http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?relative_d1.png&rev=634564429085625000

[Dogman]

Shittttttt!

Tanking -405.98

And counting!

[madfranks]

But look at the USD, up 1.25! All the money that's fleeing Europe is coming to uncle sam!

[Ares]

But look at the USD, up 1.25! All the money that's fleeing Europe is coming to uncle sam!

Only a short sighted fool would think the USD is a "safe haven". We are much worse off, and it'll only be a matter of time before those moron paper traders see it.

[Dogman]

But look at the USD, up 1.25! All the money that's fleeing Europe is coming to uncle sam! True, they are trying to find a safe harbor.


Still , some could see chicken little. ;D

[Spectrism]

But look at the USD, up 1.25! All the money that's fleeing Europe is coming to uncle sam!

The whole market is broken. It is a bizarre financial play. Dollars compared to Euros goes up --->
dollar buys more stocks -----> stock prices drop.

BUT it is not that simple. I thought it was, but have been watching the Euro follow our stock prices (inversely). There is some underlying money transfer going on whereby the two are tied together, but not causative (necessarily) by the Euro. I think it is more of the risk being assessed on companies - and largely banking companies, which is preceding the drop of the Euro. It's like early warning circulates among the insiders (traders at the elite houses).

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUuo2CDY_BE

[gunny highway]

i know it's amateur hour but i couldn't resist.
DOW
11,569.60
-226.56 (-1.92%)

[Neuro]

Yeehaw! -289!

[Dogman]

-314

[Neuro]

-322

[MNeagle]

Come on guys, we need the visual here!!

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634574715704148750

[Horn]

The Bloomberg speech wasn't an effective replacement for Bernanke's usual.

[vacuum]

I go to check the markets, down 324 points...

[AndreaGail]

11483.62 -312.54‎ (-2.65%‎) Nov 21 2:09pm ET

[MNeagle]

while not as dramatic as last year's swings (yet); still worth a bump imo.

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634666348861250000


http://www.kitco.com/images/live/t24_au_en_usoz_home.gif?random=0.688232421875

http://www.kitconet.com/charts/metals/silver/t24_ag_en_usoz_6.gif

[Neuro]

A good plunge today, and the market hasn't had as low volume since December 2007. The bull'shit' is running out of steam. Meanwhile gold is up. Seems like run to safety to me!

http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=%5eDJI&t=5y&q=l&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-US&region=US

[osoab]

A good plunge today, and the market hasn't had as low volume since December 2007. The bull'shit' is running out of steam. Meanwhile gold is up. Seems like run to safety to me!



Do you think that India's gold retailers are the reason for the current spike. Meaning Monday and today.

[Spectrism]

I can only imagine what Obama will do next to keep up appearances:

nationalize all retirement accounts and force them into stock funds- and not let them sell.

federal reserve can keep buying up treasury bonds.

[Neuro]

Do you think that India's gold retailers are the reason for the current spike. Meaning Monday and today.

Anything particular that happened the last few days re Indian gold retailers? I knew that India is going to levy taxes on gold imports, but I doubt that would create 'spikes', a general increased demand yes, but not increased volatility!

Stock Market Volume is low and the prices are high. This means the bull market in Stocks is running out of steam. Smart Money Insiders move into gold now. They know that it is the only remaining safe haven... Bonds will probably be kept at low interest rates, but only through massive monetization, which means the value of the bonds will go down through currency devaluation...

[osoab]

Anything particular that happened the last few days re Indian gold retailers? I knew that India is going to levy taxes on gold imports, but I doubt that would create 'spikes', a general increased demand yes, but not increased volatility!

Stock Market Volume is low and the prices are high. This means the bull market in Stocks is running out of steam. Smart Money Insiders move into gold now. They know that it is the only remaining safe haven... Bonds will probably be kept at low interest rates, but only through massive monetization, which means the value of the bonds will go down through currency devaluation...


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
India's Jewellers End Gold Strike As Government Caves On Excise Duty: Pent Up Gold Demand To Be Unleashed (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/indias-jewellers-end-gold-strike-government-caves-excise-duty-pent-gold-demand-be-unleashed)



A month ago, after causing a spike in cotton prices following the imposition of an export ban, India promptly overturned (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/india-revokes-cotton-export-ban-after-china-complains-limit-down-open-widowmaker-trade)said surprising move following a surge in protest from not only various trade local groups, but more importantly China, whose already razor thin margins would become negative if input costs soared even further. The whole process lasted about 72 hours from beginning to end. Days after, desperate to fund ongoing budget shortfalls, the government shifted its attention to price controls in a market it knew China would absolutely not mind to having the price kept artificially low - gold. What happened then was an announcement by the government to impose to levy an excise duty on unbranded jewelry. The response was swift - a countrywide strike among India's jewellers who all went dark, crippling demand from one of the traditionally strongest gold markets in the world. And all this happening at a time when the wedding season is at its peak, with Akshaya Tritiya, one of the biggest gold buying festivals later in the month, making the period crucial for jewellers. As of hours ago, the Indian finance ministry has caved, and while it took three days to end the cotton export ban, it took three weeks to end the excise duty proposal, India's Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee said that the government would consider scrapping a budget proposal to levy an excise duty on unbranded jewellery. The result will be three weeks of pent up demand for precious metals being unleashed suddenly, likely pushing spot gold far higher, to where it would be had this latest artificial price control never been established.

[Neuro]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
India's Jewellers End Gold Strike As Government Caves On Excise Duty: Pent Up Gold Demand To Be Unleashed (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/indias-jewellers-end-gold-strike-government-caves-excise-duty-pent-gold-demand-be-unleashed)

Yes, that could be it too! Thanks!

[MNeagle]

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634741409483775407

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634741409483775407


need help inserting plunge pic! Just turned the year dow negative...

[osoab]

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634741409483775407

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634741409483775407


need help inserting plunge pic! Just turned the year dow negative...

When you link the pic from the url, uncheck the box.

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=YM&cot=124601,124603&p=m5

[MNeagle]

:mad: When I uncheck the box, the o.k. option disappears... so nothing inserts. aarrghh!!

[osoab]

:mad: When I uncheck the box, the o.k. option disappears... so nothing inserts. aarrghh!!

That bites.

I was having some issues with all the board linking and smilies yesterday. Maybe shutdown your browser and restart?

[MNeagle]

I clicked the 'compatibility' button. Logged me out, but seems to have fixed my issues atm.



http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634741405627147580

[Neuro]

Facebook just got under $28 (27.87 atm)... Was there ever a market crash in June?

[MNeagle]

A little nod to the anniversary of Black Monday 25 years ago:

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634862537017992500


http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?gc.png&rev=634862537392680000 http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?si.png&rev=634862537392680000 http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?cl.png&rev=634862537392680000 http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?dx.png&rev=634862537392680000


Buy the dips gentleman!

[MNeagle]

Just queing up for tomorrow's action, futures' looking bleak:

http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?ym.png&rev=634916402056273750http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?es.png&rev=634916402056273750http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?nq.png&rev=634916402056273750http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?nkd.png&rev=634916403409242500

[BarnkleBob]

EOY tax avoidance profit taking... big tax increase after 12\31\2012.... gold has been hedging bonds, as profit is taken the hedges are closed & POG falls... I anticipate weakness until after the 1st....

[slvrbugjim]

EOY tax avoidance profit taking... big tax increase after 12\31\2012.... gold has been hedging bonds, as profit is taken the hedges are closed & POG falls... I anticipate weakness until after the 1st....

OHhhhh if it were only true

[MNeagle]

http://finviz.com/image.ashx?dow&rev=634862537017992500


http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?gc.png&rev=634862537392680000 http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?si.png&rev=634862537392680000 http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?cl.png&rev=634862537392680000 http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?dx.png&rev=634862537392680000


Hard to believe this thread hasn't been used in 9 months! Does the PPT still work?

[EE_]

Hard to believe this thread hasn't been used in 9 months! Does the PPT still work?

I think Wall Street is playing the volitility game over the budget and debt ceiling. They can't get the market to move higher, so create fear and play the swings to take all they can get their hands on.
In case you haven't heard it in the last 5 minutes, the government might shut down tonight...oooh my!
How many times can they play this game?

[MNeagle]

FEDERAL SHUTDOWN LOOMS!!!







booga booga

[Horn]

Government shutdown is almost certain


The US federal government is barrelling towards its first shutdown in 17 years after congressional Republicans demanded a one-year delay of President Barack Obama's health care law and the repeal of a tax to pay for the law before approving any funds to keep the government running.

House of Representatives Republicans emerged from a secret meeting on Saturday unified and confident that they had the votes to delay the health care law and eliminate a tax on medical devices that partly pays for it.

But before the House had even voted, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, declared the House bill dead. Senate Democrats are planning to table it when they convene on Monday, leaving it up to the House to pass a stand-alone spending bill free of any measures that undermine the health care law.


The House's action all but ensured that large parts of the government would be shuttered as of 12.01am Tuesday, US eastern time. More than 800,000 federal workers deemed nonessential faced leave of absence; millions more could be working without pay.

A separate House Republican bill would also ensure that military personnel continued to be paid in the event of a government shutdown, an acknowledgement that a shutdown was likely. The health law delay and the troop funding bill were set for House passage.

''The American people don't want a government shutdown, and they don't want Obamacare,'' House Republican leaders said in a statement. ''We will do our job and send this bill over, and then it's up to the Senate to pass it and stop a government shutdown.''

Darrell Issa, a powerful Republican committee chairman who is close to the leadership but has sided with those who want to gut the health care law, flashed anger when asked what would happen when the Senate rejected the House's offer.
''How dare you presume a failure?'' he snapped. ''We continue to believe there's an opportunity for sensible compromise, and I will not accept from anybody the assumption of failure.''

Senator Reid made it clear that failure was inevitable. ''After weeks of futile political games from Republicans, we are still at square one,'' he said. ''We continue to be willing to debate these issues in a calm and rational atmosphere, but the American people will not be extorted by Tea Party anarchists.''


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/government-shutdown-is-almost-certain-20130929-2umbr.html#ixzz2gOaSZuuN

[Neuro]

the American people will not be extorted by Tea Party anarchists.''
It seems some representatives are more worth than others. Democrats=American people, Republicans=Tea party anarchists. I just think the bunch of them are just scum, with no interest in the well being of anyone apart from themselves. If some of them would be anarchists I would apologize for the generalization...

[Neuro]

I think we are likely to see a black October day plunge...

[Horn]

It seems some representatives are more worth than others.

It depends on how many times your district can send the same Representative that yours gets earmarked for larger Fed. fund projects.

Royalty in action.

[madfranks]

The American people don't want a government shutdown

Actually, a lot of us do. :)

[Ares]

Actually, a lot of us do. :)

I know I do, most of my family does, and so do a lot of my friends. Shut it down, throw away the key and never reopen.

[Sparky]

I thought this morning's move down might show some signs of panic (leading to a more meaningful plunge), but so far the volume is not very unusual.

It looks like this is what's going on: Market participants have been trained that each one of these fearful events is followed by a major surge in the market as soon as a short term resolution emerges. As such, there seem to be sufficient buyers stepping in at every weakness to prevent a meaningful plunge.

I've learned over the years that as soon as a trend in behavior like this becomes recognizable, it reverses. This is likely due to the big fund managers exploiting the sentiment of the retail players. So the contrarian outcome this time around would be that a resolution be met with huge selling by the fund managers during the next would-be post-resolution surge.

This would be consistent with my anticipation of our upcoming "Winter of Discontent". Expect most of the market pain to occur AFTER the budget and debt ceiling issues are resolved, i.e. from late October through March time frame. Normally, this is the market's strongest period.

[Son-of-Liberty]

I don't know if you can predict anything in this market.

Normal traders aren't the only ones that can read charts.

Banker and government manipulators can push the market it one direction to change the "trend" then the software of programed traders and HFT trading accentuate the move.

This is why the PM's can't gain any traction. Any time the charts start to trend upwards the bankers break the trend.

When you think about it the fundamentals for PM's have never been better. China and Russia are buying huge quantities of gold. Hong Kong imported the equivalent of 80% of the yearly supply in the last year. Germany wanted it's gold back and was told it would have to wait 7 years. Several bullion banks have defaulted in the last few months. Panama is having a bank holiday. COMEX inventories are extremely low. The US government is shutdown because they can't agree on a budget and future spending and the debt ceiling needs to be raised in the next week or so.

Despite all this PM's are languishing in mediocrity. It is because everyone is trading on technical analysis and that makes it easier for the bankers to manipulate the price of anything they want. The whole game is rigged.

Of course it will all break down at some point but when?

[Jewboo]

http://www.forexlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Santa-Ben.jpg
Trust in Jesus

[Horn]

I thought this morning's move down might show some signs of panic (leading to a more meaningful plunge), but so far the volume is not very unusual.

Who knows if volume is not spread out over weeks by Leo Wanta also?

[Sparky]

I don't know if you can predict anything in this market.

Normal traders aren't the only ones that can read charts.

Banker and government manipulators can push the market it one direction to change the "trend" then the software of programed traders and HFT trading accentuate the move.

This is why the PM's can't gain any traction. Any time the charts start to trend upwards the bankers break the trend.
...

It takes capital to manipulate the trend. The banks were nearly out of capital, but it was restored with QE1, QE2, QE3. Yes, you can do this for a while, and so markets are unpredictable from the short to medium term (weeks, months, a year or two). But all those fundamentals have to play out in the long run. When is that? One hint is your mention of Germany, who seemed willing to wait 7 years to get their gold back. There's some tipping point between now and then that the rats will all start jumping ship in anticipation.

[Son-of-Liberty]

It takes capital to manipulate the trend. The banks were nearly out of capital, but it was restored with QE1, QE2, QE3. Yes, you can do this for a while, and so markets are unpredictable from the short to medium term (weeks, months, a year or two). But all those fundamentals have to play out in the long run. When is that? One hint is your mention of Germany, who seemed willing to wait 7 years to get their gold back. There's some tipping point between now and then that the rats will all start jumping ship in anticipation.

I am in agreement.

[mick silver]

Of course it will all break down at some point but when? ... not till they want it to break down not a second before they have suck all they can out of everything in this country

[Horn]

Sparky, you ought to start your own blog like the Silver Bullet bandit did.

You could probably sell a million copies with your Confidence Regularly Manipulative Market Greenshoots Breeders Report. lol! :)

[Neuro]

It takes capital to manipulate the trend. The banks were nearly out of capital, but it was restored with QE1, QE2, QE3. Yes, you can do this for a while, and so markets are unpredictable from the short to medium term (weeks, months, a year or two). But all those fundamentals have to play out in the long run. When is that? One hint is your mention of Germany, who seemed willing to wait 7 years to get their gold back. There's some tipping point between now and then that the rats will all start jumping ship in anticipation.
I don't think Germany wants to wait 7 years to get 20% of their gold held abroad back. They hope for the best, which is within 7 years they at least will get a portion of that back. Their leaders understand it is a Pandora's box! That is why they don't press the issue...

[Sparky]

Still not much volume on today's drop. No market panic yet.

[mick silver]

Still not much volume on today's drop. No market panic yet.
there will be no panic as long as they control what people see ...

[osoab]

Do we need Dow 15,000 hats now?

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=YM&cot=124601,124603&p=h1

[Dogman]

HeHe.

Bloodbath!

[EE_]

Turned on CNBC and this is what I saw...
It's a pleasant change from the last 5 years of gloating and ha ha'ing the goyim

http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/six-million-never-forget.jpg
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/79/1385790068603.png

[JohnQPublic]

Grey Black Wednesday

Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI)

-DJI Watchlist

15,929.17 http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/fi/03rd/down_r.gif 386.02(2.37%) 1:56PM EDT
15,901.01 -414.18(-2.54%) - 2:01PM EDT
15,891.70 -423.49(-2.60%) - 2:02pm EDT
15,893.56 -421.63(-2.58%) -2:03PM EDT

CALLING THE PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6877&stc=1

15,902.68 -412.51(-2.53%) - 2:05PM EDT
15,887.33 -427.86(-2.62%) - 2:07PM EDT
15,909.49 -405.70(-2.49%) - 2:09PM EDT
15,926.41 -388.78(-2.38%) - 2:10PM EDT

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6878&stc=1

15,932.86 -382.33(-2.34%) - 2:12PM EDT

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6879&stc=1

15,950.33 -364.86(-2.24%) - 2:15PM EDT

[StreetsOfGold]

Anyone, including the DOW

http://www.davesstrawhatinn.com/uploads/Dive%20With%20Dave's%20Affiliated%20Dive%20Shop%20 and%20Save.jpg

[Ponce]

As long as the printing presses are working everything will be just fine.....

V

[Neuro]

Do we need Dow 15,000 hats now?

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=YM&cot=124601,124603&p=h1
Amazing it's been more than a year since this thread was posted on before your post. It's been missed, I realize now!

[Cebu_4_2]

I don't miss charts like that, I threw away the key.

[Serpo]

“There is no way on Earth that the S&P is going to stay near 2,000 without the Fed printing money -- there’s no way. They tried to exit from QE1 and QE2 and it failed and the market tanked. Does anybody really think

that they can print $1.5 trillion over the space of a year and a half, and then stop and not have the

markets go down? That’s the only reason the stock market went up.”

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/10/15_Fleckenstein_-_Expect_The_Stock_Market_Collapse_To_Accelerate.ht ml

[mick silver]

its just a few rich dickheads buying a new home under ground

[Spectrism]

Might be time to dust off this old thread. DEFLATION is the ever-present monster eating up the cookie crumb trail of excessive government pumping of the money system. Its time will soon be here. When companies are going out of business, the plunge protection team have to stop pumping their stocks. Can you imagine a bankrupt company with a million shares of $50 stock? Let's see if this happens.


Greg Hunter interviews Harry Dent. Excellent discussion. He is presenting the deflation argument and looking for many bubbles to pop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9gnBe37k34

[mick silver]

Thanks

[mick silver]

what a great day to be in the markets if your a bank ... Thursday’s Close:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) +421.28

17,778.15
+2.43%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) +104.09

4,748.40
+2.24%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) +48.34

2,061.23
+2.40%

[BrewTech]

what a great day to be in the markets if your a bank ... Thursday’s Close:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) +421.28

17,778.15
+2.43%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) +104.09

4,748.40
+2.24%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) +48.34

2,061.23
+2.40%



What a joke... people still believe this reflects the real health of the the stock market.

[Cebu_4_2]

What a joke... people still believe this reflects the real health of the the stock market.

Stock market is a joke. 20 years ago with 50K and a smart head you could retire (and still play) for another 20 years. After this you could be rich beyond dreams unless blatantly stoopid. I got stuck in the 2009 shit.

[Sparky]

What a joke... people still believe this reflects the real health of the the stock market.
Actually, I don't think people really even believe that any more. With alternating swings of 200-400 points per day, I think even the Average Joe is now suspicious.

[Spectrism]

As I understand it, the federal reserve now has its own trading desk.... to buy stocks with its unlimited fake money! I guess the plunge protection team doesn't need shill shells like Goldman Sux anymore.

They can pump up values of stocks.... until the companies fold and instantly become zero.

[mick silver]

Friday’s Close:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) +26.65

17,804.80
+0.15%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) +16.98

4,765.38
+0.36%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) +9.42

2,070.65
+0.46% Stock Shock Surge – Is It Real?

[mick silver]

Stock Shock Surge – Is It Real?By Staff News & Analysis - December 19, 2014

US stocks leap after Fed signals patience on rates ... U.S. stocks surged on Thursday, extending Wall Street's best day of the year, after the Federal Reserve said it would be patient in increasing interest rates. Equities came off session highs, however, as oil turned lower. – CNBC
Dominant Social Theme: Things are looking really good for the dollar and US stocks. Who expected this, eh?
Free-Market Analysis: The Fed has signaled that it has moved to a slightly tougher position regarding eventual rate hikes and the reverberations are felt around the world. The dollar has benefited so far and so have US stocks.
But are the reasons being offered in the mainstream media actually the correct ones? Reading through the analysis it becomes clear that the interpretations being offered are just that.
Articles begin with what's taking place and then offer justifications for it. The whole process seems a kind of "directed history." In the US it has resulted in a higher dollar and two days of upward movements in US marts. In this case, the argument is that investors believe that the Fed's stance indicates confidence in an expanding US economy.



Here's more:
Thursday data had jobless claims falling by 6,000 to 289,000 last week, the lowest since early November. And, the Conference Board's index of leading indicators advanced in November for a third consecutive month, signalling the U.S. economy is picking up steam heading into the new year.
After a 268-point jump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was lately up 228.69 points, or 1.3 percent, at 17,585.56, with Microsoft leading blue-chip gains that included 29 of 30 components.
... For every share falling, more than three rose on the New York Stock Exchange, were 264 million shares traded as of 11 a.m. Eastern. Composite volume neared 1.4 billion.
The U.S. dollar gained against the currencies of major U.S. trading partners and the yield on the 10-year note used to figure mortgage rates and other consumer loans gained 7 basis points to 2.2104 percent.
... U.S. stocks surged on Wednesday, with the Dow marking its best session of the year, as investors celebrated a rally in the energy sector and the Federal Reserve's (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1855/) pledge to be patient in raising interest rates.
In fact, on Thursday the Dow would eventually go on to realize a gain of 420 points, a high-water mark for the year. The S&P 500 rose 2.4% while the Nasdaq added 2.2%. The key to explaining recent market rallies is that the Fed is now pledging "patience" in raising rates. But other news commentary offers differing interpretations of what the Fed has indicated.
Reuters recently posted an alternative explanation in, "Dollar edges higher in wake of Fed statement, Swiss rate move."
The U.S. dollar rose against major currencies for a second straight session on Thursday in the wake of the Federal Reserve's signals that it could hike rates soon and looser monetary policy overseas.
... The contrast between approaching tighter monetary policy in the U.S. and looser policies in Europe, Japan, and Switzerland "could not be starker" and continued to push the dollar higher, said Shaun Osborne, chief currency strategist at TD Securities in Toronto.
Rate increases are expected to boost the greenback by driving investment flows into the United States. The Fed's upbeat assessment of the U.S. economy also helped the dollar extend gains against the safe-haven yen.
We can see clearly that this Reuters article does not support CNBC's conclusion that the US stock surge was the result of a Fed pledge "to be patient in raising interest rates."
For Reuters, the stock surge was the result of an interpretation that potentially higher rates constituted an endorsement of a growing US economy.
The UK Telegraph seems to support this view as well, posting an article entitled, "Fed calls time on $5.7 trillion of emerging market dollar debt."
The thrust of this article, like the Reuters article, is that the Fed´s position indicates the potential for higher rates – and this is going to benefit the US at the expense of overseas assets.
Here's an excerpt:
World finance is rotating on its axis. The stronger the US boom, the worse it will be for those countries on the wrong side of the dollar ... The US Federal Reserve has pulled the trigger. Emerging markets must now brace for their ordeal by fire.
They have collectively borrowed $5.7 trillion in US dollars, a currency they cannot print and do not control. This hard-currency debt has tripled in a decade, split between $3.1 trillion in bank loans and $2.6 trillion in bonds. It is comparable in scale and ratio-terms to any of the biggest cross-border lending sprees of the past two centuries.
Much of the debt was taken out at real interest rates of 1pc on the implicit assumption that the Fed would continue to flood the world with liquidity for years to come. The borrowers are "short dollars", in trading parlance. They now face the margin call from Hell as the global monetary hegemon pivots.
The Fed dashed all lingering hopes for leniency on Wednesday. The pledge to keep uber-stimulus for a "considerable time" has gone, and so has the market's security blanket, or the Fed Put as it is called. Such tweaks of language have multiplied potency in a world of zero rates.
Officials from the Bank for International Settlements say privately that developing countries may be just as vulnerable to a dollar shock as they were in the Fed tightening cycle of the late 1990s, which culminated in Russia's default and the East Asia Crisis.
We can see this article is considerably grimmer about the world's economy, though upbeat about how the US and its equities and currency are positioned.
For us, the alarmism is perhaps overdone. Recall, please, that the Fed has not done anything yet. Not a single thing.
And in its conclusion, the article backs off the alarmism just a little. "In the end, the Fed may not be able to raise rates, or at least not by much... Both of the G2 monetary superpowers may have to pull the stimulus lever yet again. First markets must endure a rare few months of chilly discipline."
This is a more sensible perspective. We're at a point now where the market is high enough for additional volatility to occur – perhaps regularly. Marts are beginning to make higher highs, not just to recover previous highs.
But let's take a step back and survey the economic and investment scene from a wider perspective. From our point of view, anyway, these markets are not in the least bit sensible, nor are reactions to the kinds of non-statements that the Fed is issuing.
Remember, please, that the data the Fed is studying is probably "cooked." It's government data with an optimistic bias that minimizes price inflation and boosts employment. We're asked to believe that the Fed can come to proper conclusions using such questionable date points.
So to summarize, the Fed issues a statement that indicates it MIGHT at some point do something to hike rates in the future – and it generates this conclusion via inaccurate government data. Nonetheless, torrents of newsprint treat proffered conclusions as a series of commandments from on high.
Our term is "directed history (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28330/)." Conclusions proffered are ones that the Western elites (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/610/) broadcast to justify what's taking place. Really, one ought to look at underlying trends, not at "reasons" provided by the mainstream media (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1861/).
We return to our VESTS (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28547/) system. Our analysis seeks to determine what the leaders of the Western central banking (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2958/) community are trying to do – and then seeks to figure out whether these plans can be implemented.
We've already determined the meme (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/654/) at play – the Wall Street Party – and thus we believe marts may be going higher, certainly US markets. The top men have shifted around regulations and dropped interest rates to nearly zero.
What ought to be the conclusion to all of this? In the shorter term, for however long that happens to be, stocks will retain some zip. In the longer term, we foresee a terrible asset deflation on the heels of the current inflation.
The trick is getting from here to there. And pulling profits in the process. Try to determine underlying motivations and keep in mind these are manipulated markets in terms of many key parameters. Even central banking itself is a manipulation.
So ... try to figure out what the monetary manipulators have in mind. And then determine as best you can whether or not their policies will "stick."
This is probably a better way of evaluating markets than using the oracular non-statements offered to the general public by central bankers as "analyzed" by the mainstream media.


ConclusionTrust in your own analyses. And maybe pay attention to VESTS.

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[Dogman]

Down by almost 500 points and combined with losses in the last few days can = Something nasty.

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[Cebu_4_2]

Time to put your shorts on!

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Possible black monday coming up as there won't be any buyers.

[EE_]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xMCsVOXfV_k/T3k2sbydrJI/AAAAAAAAAVY/B59Jl5ce7Og/s1600/sabbatical-cycle.jpg

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/newspaper-with-financial-collapse.jpg

[madfranks]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xMCsVOXfV_k/T3k2sbydrJI/AAAAAAAAAVY/B59Jl5ce7Og/s1600/sabbatical-cycle.jpg

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/newspaper-with-financial-collapse.jpg

Hmm, nope we're a little early for this. Give it two more weeks and we'll see what's cooking.

[Serpo]

Bill Holter: We Are Witnessing a Credit Collapse: Monday Could Be a DISASTER! Posted on August 21, 2015 (http://www.silverdoctors.com/bill-holter-we-are-witnessing-a-credit-collapse-monday-could-be-a-disaster/) by The Doc (http://www.silverdoctors.com/author/the-doc/)

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http://www.silverdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/collapse-300x205.jpg (http://www.silverdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/collapse.jpg)The credit BUST is here! Markets all over the world are crashing and the U.S. is now losing control. After breaking down yesterday, today looks to be another bad day. If the PPT cannot get any traction today, Monday could be a disaster.
The failure will be spectacular.
In as few words as possible, we are witnessing a credit collapse.

Submitted by Bill Holter, JSMineset (http://jsmineset.com):
Here we are six years after the “Great Financial Crisis”. Since then, every acronym in the book has been thrown at the economy and financial markets but to what end? The economy has gone nowhere over these six years, “recovery” has been the meme …but never “expansion”. Hasn’t anyone wondered about this? In the good old days we used to hear the word “expansion” for two or three years before the natural recession would roll through. This time we’ve heard nothing but recovery …year after year. “Hope” (which is the vestige of fools), year after year.

I wrote in 2008, “this is a crisis of ‘solvency’, more liquidity cannot turn bad loans into good ones”. Now, six years later it turns out this thought process was 100% correct. Other than financial assets being “saved”, all of the QE, all of the additional debt taken on by various sovereign treasuries has done nothing to the real economy of Main St.. The plan was to inflate asset values and this would spill onto Main St.. Even mainstream media when interviewing the talking heads of Wall St. and the liars out of Washington are questioning this. Heck, Peter Fisher (past chief of the plunge protection team Martin) this morning brought this up on his own. He said the policy of inflating assets has not worked and cannot work. The five plus year experiment has failed. One does not have to look far or even “into” the bogus reporting of unemployment to see what is happening. All you need to do is look at oil and Dr. copper. They are both crashing and now threating to break trend lines going back to the 1980’s.

In as few words as possible, we are witnessing a credit collapse. These two commodities (along with many others) are crashing NOT because currencies are so well foundationed or strong and “going up”. No, we are watching them crash because of shrinking demand. This is also confirmed by trade numbers (or lack of). We also see freight rates imploding all over the world due to the same lack of demand and trade. This should tell you something in very loud and very clear terms, the “reflation” efforts have failed miserably!
You don’t need to take my word, your own gut feel or even your very own eyes to know this. “They” have admitted it and we now even see stories going mainstream with titles such as “is the Fed out of bullets? and Fed loses its grip on debt” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-20/credit-traders-gird-for-the-worst-as-fed-loses-its-grip-on-debt. Just this week we have seen Alan Greenspan warn the “credit markets are in a bubble” http://www.marketwatch.com/story/greenspan-warns-about-bond-market-bubble-2015-08-19 . If that were not enough, the St. Louis Fed http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/after-6-years-qe-and-45-trillion-balance-sheet-st-louis-fed-admits-qe-was-mistake admits QE was a mistake and did nothing to help the economy.

In the case of Mr. Greenspan, he is simply trying to get on the record far enough to hopefully make historians forget he was the one driving the bus on the road to perdition. He is now on the record gold “is money” and a safe haven versus his precious product the dollar. Has he had some sort of come to Jesus moment? I believe no, not even possible as he’s known all along how money works and where he was driving the bus. His days with Ayn Rand were filled with quotes and writings which sounded much like today’s tin foil hat society! He knew then, he knows now and will know until his last breath, the end of the credit road is in sight. His own “legacy” and nothing else is his concern.

The St. Louis Fed is known as the “teaching” district. Their recent admission QE was a mistake is a little different than Alan Greenspan trying to get on the record. I’m not really sure what their motive is for telling the truth? It certainly does not aid their cause because they are admitting failure.
We stand on the cusp of a credit meltdown. Never mind the stock markets or the commodity markets, they are simply “symptoms” of a credit bubble going bust. The talk of “will the Fed tighten” in Sept. (or EVER again) is hilarious! The Fed will be forced to implement another round of QE no matter what the acronym or name. More QE will do what more QE has already done, simply pile more debt on top of already TOO MUCH DEBT! There are no possible fixes left, the CREDIT CRISIS has arrived. No way to reflate and no way to actually “pay” (settle) on the debt. Central banks all over the world are now beginning to act in their own best interests, it’s like the sharks are eating the sharks.

The credit BUST is here! Markets all over the world are crashing and the U.S. is now losing control. After breaking down yesterday, today looks to be another bad day. If the PPT cannot get any traction today, Monday could be a disaster. I even question whether markets remain open at some point because closure will be the ONLY way to stop the selling which will be forced (by margin calls) in nearly all markets. This is not fear mongering, it is now math. We live in a make believe world created by the illusion that “credit” is a strong foundation, it cannot be. Bad credits cannot be made good by those with too much debt. This is exactly what has been attempted by the largest debtor on the planet. The failure will be spectacular. All money today is nothing more than credit … credit IS the problem!

It is imperative you understand how this will go down. You must have exactly what you think you’ll need and what you want to own going into this. You will have no opportunity to change horses when the markets close. Bluntly, it’s not the closure of markets that will kill you …it will be the reopening!
Standing watch,
Bill Holter
Holter-Sinclair collaboration
Comments welcome! bholter@hotmail.com

http://www.silverdoctors.com/bill-holter-we-are-witnessing-a-credit-collapse-monday-could-be-a-disaster/

[JohnQPublic]

Considering these three top headlines on Marketwatch... You can be sure for a rally upwards Monday:

Dow 5,000? Yes, it could happen, says Brett Arends (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-5000-yes-it-could-happen-2015-08-21)
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/MWimages/MW-DS794_dow_50_ME_20150821151649.jpg (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-5000-yes-it-could-happen-2015-08-21)
Dow enters correction (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-eye-a-reprieve-despite-mortal-blow-from-chinese-data-2015-08-21)
Last Great Bubble may be popping: Gayed (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-last-great-bubble-may-finally-be-starting-to-pop-2015-08-21)

[Shami-Amourae]

The News Unit did a long-winded technical analysis on whats going on yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ-Jf2Kku4

[Twisted Titan]

they have the entire weekend to stop the bleeding. I want to see how the Shanghai market open up Sunday night. that will be the greatest indicator of what takes place Monday morning.

[Dogman]

Get the popcorn ready, Monday could be fun, maybe lots of fireworks. Mainly because nothing can change, oil prices will not suddenly rise, china suddenly will not start growing again, the middle east conflict are not going away.

And then there is N. korea that as of this minuet they are cussing and discussing trying to prevent that stack of dry hay from combustion.

Interesting times !

[Neuro]

Both Hang Seng and Nikkei index lost 5% today! European markets down around 2-3%, so far!

[Glass]

How long before NY opens today, Tuesday?

its 24 past some o'clock, 6 pm here so I'm figuring it's 6 am some where in the US now.

my post says 10:24 AM. so markets open already.

no 6 am NY

[Glass]

how would you trade today? too late to start short but that would be the place to be. Indexes? What about bond holders. What stocks are worthy of an equity conversion? Does apple still have it? Very high ratio and are there any bond holders, given how much cash it has? What sectors are good and what are the needles in those hay stacks. Mutuals maybe. Hedge Funds, retirements. might take a while for them to react. If the devaluation is too extreme they might be forced to cannibalize to meet outgoings. Retirements not so much because drawings is demographic and time based and you can manage that. I'm thinking of the funds adding to the selling momentum at some point when they start liquidating.

I posted above and went to the latest at ZH: Carnage continues in Europe (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/carnage-continues-across-european-stocks-eurusd-surges-above-11500-wti-crude-tumbles)

And finally do not forget this is not money that will rotate from 'stocks' to 'bonds' this is credit-created positions via carry/repo that when liquidated simply disappear - there is no cash to move to another asset. That's the whole point - the asset inflation has been created by leveraged carry - and as is obvious now, the market emperor is wearing no clothese beneath the thin veneer of centrally planned smoke and mirrors.

[expat4ever]

Put options?

[Dogman]

Blood bath any one ?

[Spectrism]

You know how doom is always 6 months away?

Not any more.

[Neuro]

My prediction is Dow starts down, maybe 2-3%. Then we get a rebound and Dow will end at least neutral but probably up 2-3%. Courtesy of PPT! Doom is 1-2 months away! :)

[Ares]

NASDAQ hits circuit breaker, halts trading.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/nasdaq-futures-halted-after-hitting-circuit-breaker-down-5

NASDAQ 100 SEPTEMBER FUTURES HIT CIRCUIT BREAKER, HALTED - RTRS

Nasdaq Futures below 4,000!

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/08-overflow/20150824_nas_0.jpg

[Dogman]

-1100 and change up and down.

[Ares]

Panic!! All Major US Equity Indices Halted

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/08-overflow/20150824_halt_0.jpg


Nasdaq was the first to be halted at 0758ET.

The Dow is now down 850 points from Friday's close and halted...

The S&P 500 Futures is halted for the first time in history.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/panic-all-major-us-equity-indices-halted

[General of Darkness]

Dang the dead cat bounce of 500 and now the talking heads are telling people to buy buy buy and EVERYONE is blaming China and saying the U.S. is in the best position. I think they see the writing on the wall and people are going all in to stop it and reverse it.

My current position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfeXqHFmPI

[EE_]

Dang the dead cat bounce of 500 and now the talking heads are telling people to buy buy buy and EVERYONE is blaming China and saying the U.S. is in the best position. I think they see the writing on the wall and people are going all in to stop it and reverse it.

My current position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfeXqHFmPI

Fuck You, Blow Me!

[Plastic]

Looks like the PPT has gone to work.

[BrewTech]

Don't the big guys just short the market, crash it, then buy back and reap profits? Is that what we're seeing here? Or is that the old school way of doing things, and doesn't apply anymore?

[Ares]

Don't the big guys just short the market, crash it, then buy back and reap profits? Is that what we're seeing here? Or is that the old school way of doing things, and doesn't apply anymore?

Probably doesn't apply anymore as the Algo's are little unpredictable. So would make planning something like that to also be unpredictable as the Algo's would most likely beat them to the punch of buying the dips.

[Spectrism]

What we are seeing is a disconnect for traders while the banks pump up the bubble again. They must have figured out how to keep the market open while stopping trades.

[Horn]

Maybe the truth finally hit it and it'll just blowup every day they try to start it back up again.

[Dogman]

Maybe the truth finally hit it and it'll just blowup every day they try to start it back up again.

Financial recycling of the extreme kind ?

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7

[ImaCannin]

Awaken oh great EBT Army for thou hast stopped thy payments and you must rally your forces against the good and prepared for you are not

[Jewboo]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyzbn3sZmJ1qc2pw4o1_500.gif

End Of The World and gold and silver prices not going up.

:rolleyes:

[Plastic]

Silver is acting like its usual hammered shit self.

Oh, look, the DOW is only down 186 now, it'll prob close up 100 for the day.

[Neuro]

Amazing recovery from -1000+ to now around -200 for DOW!

[Spectrism]

Amazing recovery from -1000+ to now around -200 for DOW!


Just put blocks between traders and only allow the PPT / banksters to pump up the prices.... and all is well.

[PatColo]

August 24, 2015 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/24/todays-flash-crash-caught-on-tape-vix-explodes-highest-since-09/)
Today’s FLASH CRASH, Caught On Tape / VIX Explodes – Highest Since ’09 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/24/todays-flash-crash-caught-on-tape-vix-explodes-highest-since-09/) 2 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/24/todays-flash-crash-caught-on-tape-vix-explodes-highest-since-09/#comments) by James Tracy (http://memoryholeblog.com/author/truthgulag/) • Documents (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/documents/), Home (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/home/) • Tags: economy (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/economy/)
Zero Hedge (http://www.zerohedge.com)
During the flash crash of May 6, 2010, the 1000 plunge in the Dow Jones seems historic, unprecedented and surely unrepeatable – after all the regulators had “learned their lesson” and would never allow a move like this ever again, right? Wrong.
https://scoopfeeddotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/pzrzh.gif?w=462&h=266 (https://scoopfeeddotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/pzrzh.gif)
This biggest single day surge in VIX ever…
https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/20150824_vix1_0.jpg?w=462&h=273

(https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/20150824_vix1_0.jpg)

More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/24/todays-flash-crash-caught-on-tape-vix-explodes-highest-since-09/#more-19092)

[Neuro]

Dow is down -621 right now! Will it recover or PLUNGE!

[Neuro]

-682 now!

[Neuro]

-698, 25 minutes left!

[Neuro]

-480 , 19 minutes to go!

[Neuro]

--521 18 minutes

[Serpo]

why worry , sit back while the fed prints more money and saves the world again.............

[Neuro]

-325 15 min

[Neuro]

-400 10 minutes to go!

[ximmy]

-400 10 minutes to go!


what are you looking at?

[Neuro]

-530 2 minutes to go!

[Dogman]

- 530 or so!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Neuro]

what are you looking at?
Dow tanking!

[ximmy]

what chart?

I see 16083.20 -376.55 (-2.29%)

fed manipulating it back up

[Dogman]

-575

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Neuro]

Finished at -586! What a journey!

[Serpo]

http://www.stockmaster.in/dow.html

good ticker on the right of screen......................which shows dow jumping around like a jack in the box

it says minus 658 or -4%

literally minutes ago it said minus 2.5%



US 30
15,871.28
15,370.33
-588.47
-3.58%

[Neuro]

what chart?

I see 16083.20 -376.55 (-2.29%)

fed manipulating it back up
You probably have a 10-15 minute delay, in your info!

[Serpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=O1_TSp7wcFI

[ximmy]

You probably have a 10-15 minute delay, in your info!


your right. Thanks for the link

[Neuro]

Maybe we should dust off this old classic. -588 today. -530 on Friday...

[Neuro]

Madfranks, can you merge this thread with the classic Tracking the Dow plunge?

[Horn]

Does this mean all the people will be made 10% shorter in height?

Thinking i might invest in stepping stools.

[Horn]

Madfranks, can you merge this thread with the classic Tracking the Dow plunge?

Fanks was laid off due to the down trend.

[Neuro]

Does this mean all the people will be made 10% shorter in height?

Thinking i might invest in stepping stools.
Made me think about the Dutch famine during 2nd world war. Those babies who were born during or right after the famine, where significantly shorter than their siblings. Interesting thing was so where their children. Proves that you inherit not just the genetics from your parents, but also their environment...

[Horn]

Tend to eat and grow more when you're workin. I'm down from 3 square meals a day to 2.

And a snack.

[Neuro]

Tend to eat and grow more when you're workin. I'm down from 3 square meals a day to 2.

And a snack.
Hungry wolves...

[madfranks]

Madfranks, can you merge this thread with the classic Tracking the Dow plunge?

Done!

[Cebu_4_2]

1 meal and a snack here and a bunch of beer.

[madfranks]

Fanks was laid off due to the down trend.

Nah, it's easy to endure a 10% pay cut when your base is zero.

[Neuro]

Nah, it's easy to endure a 10% pay cut when your base is zero.
You're f(i)reed!

[Spectrism]

Maybe we should dust off this old classic. -588 today. -530 on Friday...


And -381 on last Thursday. These are some respectable numbers for a plunge. And we saw the mandatory PPT tampering- interfering with trades while pumping the numbers back up across the board. It was not just one sector. Commodities moved with stocks. Very unnatural. The controllers are still playing the game but they let the numbers slip just enough that people will not expect an interest rate rise. This might even make the prices go up for a while.

Smackdown might be further down the road.

[Neuro]

And -381 on last Thursday. These are some respectable numbers for a plunge. And we saw the mandatory PPT tampering- interfering with trades while pumping the numbers back up across the board. It was not just one sector. Commodities moved with stocks. Very unnatural. The controllers are still playing the game but they let the numbers slip just enough that people will not expect an interest rate rise. This might even make the prices go up for a while.

Smackdown might be further down the road.
I think 1-2 months is the timeframe until we see blood in the street. Gold should go opposite to stocks and bonds, until then there is no real fear...

[Serpo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/24/19/2B9EBC3300000578-3209036-image-a-20_1440442096081.jpghttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3209036/Black-Monday-sees-billions-wiped-world-markets-fears-grow-crisis-China-start-serious.html

[mick silver]

dam guys it's the just rich ass hats taking their cut from the 99%

[mick silver]

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19,75020,00020,25020,50020,75021,00021,25021,50009 :0012:00
Monday, Aug 24, 14:55-14:59Hong Kong Hang SengOpen: 20793.5High: 20805Low: 20673Close: 20696.5


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[Neuro]

Hong Kong Hang Seng

20696.5 -912.5 (-4.22%)
14:58:59 (GMT)

Bid20673.0
Ask 20720.0

Open 21609.0
High 21654.0
Low 19935.0





































































































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19,75020,00020,25020,50020,75021,00021,25021,50009 :0012:00
Monday, Aug 24, 14:55-14:59Hong Kong Hang SengOpen: 20793.5High: 20805Low: 20673Close: 20696.5


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Weird I have not seen any numbers that low on the Hang Seng today...

[Horn]

U.S. and China two big thugs that will shakedown all the minors on the street.

[Glass]

I sometimes wish I could zen up some lottery numbers


how would you trade today? too late to start short but that would be the place to be. Indexes? What about bond holders. What stocks are worthy of an equity conversion? Does apple still have it? Very high ratio and are there any bond holders, given how much cash it has? What sectors are good and what are the needles in those hay stacks. Mutuals maybe. Hedge Funds, retirements. might take a while for them to react. If the devaluation is too extreme they might be forced to cannibalize to meet outgoings. Retirements not so much because drawings is demographic and time based and you can manage that. I'm thinking of the funds adding to the selling momentum at some point when they start liquidating.

I posted above and went to the latest at ZH: Carnage continues in Europe (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/carnage-continues-across-european-stocks-eurusd-surges-above-11500-wti-crude-tumbles)


Did Tim Cook Violate Regulation "Fair Disclosure" By Emailing Jim Cramer To Save AAPL Stock This Morning

Earlier today, as AAPL stock was plummeting and had lost a whopping $75 billion in market cap, dropping as low as $92/share, CNBC's Jim Cramer pulled a rabit out of a hat, or in this case a previously undisclosed email out of his inbox. An email (https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/635799629947404288)from AAPL CEO Tim Cook which said the following (as subsequently conveyed by Cramer to CNBC viewers (https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/635799629947404288)):




Jim,

As you know, we don't give mid-quarter updates and we rarely comment on moves in Apple stock. But I know your question is on the minds of many investors.

I get updates on our performance in China every day, including this morning, and I can tell you that we have continued to experience strong growth for our business in China through July and August. Growth in iPhone activations has actually accelerated over the past few weeks, and we have had the best performance of the year for the App Store in China during the last 2 weeks.

Obviously I can't predict the future, but our performance so far this quarter is reassuring. Additionally, I continue to believe that China represents an unprecedented opportunity over the long term as LTE penetration is very low and most importantly the growth of the middle class over the next several years will be huge.

Tim

While we are delighted by Tim Cook's subjective take of AAPL's Chinese prospects, we have a different question: where is the public filing that accompanies this letter which constitutes nothing short of a private business update with an outside, and unregulated by Apple, market cheerleader?
Because as the AAPL reaction to Tim's letter, which was clearly in Cramer's private possession for at least 1 millisecond before it was made public (and thus we don't know who else may have had access to it before its public dissemination), just how is this not a Regulation Fair Disclosure violation?
Needless to say, the fate of AAPL, which is the most important stock in the world, held by a record 181 hedge funds, determines the intraday (and not only) fate of the entire market.



Remember: the fate of AAPL determines the fate of the US stock market pic.twitter.com/04NAbgVR2k (http://t.co/04NAbgVR2k)
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) August 24, 2015 (https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/635819986410471426)






link to ZH (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/did-tim-cook-violate-regulation-fair-disclosure-emailing-jim-cramer-save-aapl-stock-)

[Neuro]

European markets seem to be up 2-4% (London, Frankfurt and Stockholm). Hang Seng was up 1/2% and Nikkei was down 4%...

Nikkei is less than half its all-time high of 1989! And it isn't like the printing presses for Yen has been cold the last 26 years!

[BrewTech]

Crisis averted. All hail our benevolent overlords!


Dow Jones Industrial Average 2 Minute

Dow Jones Indices: .DJI - Aug 25 9:44 AM ET
16,169.46 ^^298.11 (1.88%)

[Dogman]

Humm?

Bouncing back into the green!

OK !

Never mind the reasons that triggered this current meltdown are still in place, nothing has change one iota, and if anything china, oil prices and manufacturing are down and its highly probably things will get worse because they sure in the hell has not gotten any better.

OK !

The military has a saying that fits here !

S.N.A.F.U !

Got popcorn ?

[Ares]

2008 all over again, only worse this time as the central banks used up all of their ammo last time.

Dead cat bounce. Use the time to prep, and buy the dips in metals.

[madfranks]

2008 all over again, only worse this time as the central banks used up all of their ammo last time.

Dead cat bounce. Use the time to prep, and buy the dips in metals. My thoughts too. Plus we all know the real fun doesn't begin until September or October. The timing is just right for one more bounce up before things fall to shit in the next couple months.

[Spectrism]

My thoughts too. Plus we all know the real fun doesn't begin until September or October. The timing is just right for one more bounce up before things fall to shit in the next couple months.


I think this is right. We are seeing the human-sort-of (banker) controls on the markets to keep things artificially animated. The money system is zombified.

But I suspect there will be a major "natural" calamity that will shake the system beyond their controls.

[PatColo]

2nd hour, discuss markets,

Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2015.08.24 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/jeff-rense-radio-show-20150824.html) Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=https://archive.org/download/Rense.20150824/Rense.20150824.1of3.mp3) Download (https://archive.org/download/Rense.20150824/Rense.20150824.1of3.mp3) Hour 1 - Hesham Tillawi PhD (http://www.currentissues.tv/) - Mideast Analysis

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=https://archive.org/download/Rense.20150824/Rense.20150824.2of3.mp3) Download (https://archive.org/download/Rense.20150824/Rense.20150824.2of3.mp3) Hour 2 - Joe Cobb - Ron Paul's Former Economic Advisor

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=https://archive.org/download/Rense.20150824/Rense.20150824.3of3.mp3) Download (https://archive.org/download/Rense.20150824/Rense.20150824.3of3.mp3) Hour 3 - Yoichi Shimatsu & Dana Durnford (http://www.thenuclearproctologist.org/) - Purple rain is fucking up all the none smokers MAN!!!!




also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4RUlBHkSsE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4RUlBHkSsE

[Neuro]

Up some 350 points right now! I wonder if it will hold until the end of day... If it ends in red I think we'll see panic tomorrow...

[Dogman]

Up some 350 points right now! I wonder if it will hold until the end of day... If it ends in red I think we'll see panic tomorrow...

You think ?

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Neuro]

You think ?

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7
they probably keep it up today... ;)

[Dogman]

they probably keep it up today... ;)

But I thought you had a working crystal ball!

Lmfao!

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Neuro]

But I thought you had a working crystal ball!

Lmfao!

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7
Today?

Yesterday I predicted an initial drop 2-3%, to end up 2-3%. Instead it dropped 7% initially and ended down 4%.

[Dogman]

Today?

Yesterday I predicted an initial drop 2-3%, to end up 2-3%. Instead it dropped 7% initially and ended down 4%.


Hummm?


;)

[Horn]

They are just positioning all bad eggs in those baskets that they will trash at a later date.

[mick silver]

over lords made money now back to fishing for more

[mick silver]

Approaching Asteroid Threatens Banks
http://www.thedailybell.com/images/library/asteroid.jpghttp://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36493/Approaching-Asteroid-Threatens-Banks/ This is a remarkable admission by Dimon. He knows his species of banker is inferior. He thinks hard work will let JPMorgan Chase stay competitive. We should wish him well, but the traits he needs to survive are not in his bank's DNA. This being the case, the only way traditional banks can survive is with political protection, and that can't last forever. Consumers will ultimately decide. Maybe, as a last gasp, the government can establish a financial endangered species refuge. Think of it as Yellowstone for bankers. They can graze there peacefully and remind us of a world gone by

[Neuro]

they probably keep it up today... ;)
See, see! I am totally in the dark!

[Dogman]

See, see! I am totally in the dark! Here don't say I never gave you anything....!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7805&stc=1

You can thank me someday...


;)

[Plastic]

Do we panic or laugh?

-204.91 as of 4:30pm

[Neuro]

Do we panic or laugh?

-204.91 as of 4:30pm
Both is apropriate! The plunge is on!

[Neuro]

Up some 350 points right now! I wonder if it will hold until the end of day... If it ends in red I think we'll see panic tomorrow...
Probably tomorrow, we'll see one of the biggest up days! Expect anything!

[Dogman]

Do we panic or laugh?

-204.91 as of 4:30pm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waZSvFbIOGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waZSvFbIOGk


Grin !

[BrewTech]

Closed at 15,666.44

[ximmy]

Closed at 15,666.44

What does this mean?

[Dogman]

What does this mean?That the microscopically thin thread holding the 40 ton very sharp knife over your head/body has not broke yet !

;)

[Horn]

What does this mean?

The Goose Drank Wine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPquvsacG5M

[Glass]

Put options?



Betting On "The End Of The World" Just Returned 2400% In One Day

On Friday afternoon, while the VIX was jumping as stocks were sliding, and well ahead of Monday's brief but systemic ETF failure which led to a VIX explosion, marketwide halts and a 1000 point Dow Jones collapse, we pointed out a disturbing event (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-21/vix-sept-50-calls-play-someone-bidding-market-collapse-insurance): someone was aggressively buying insurance against a market catastrophe by loading up on all the VIX September 50 calls they could get their hands on. In fact as of lunch time, some 625 calls had been purchased at a price of about a dime.

This is what we said (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-21/vix-sept-50-calls-play-someone-bidding-market-collapse-insurance) last Friday:



"what would be far scarier is if whoever is suddenly offering a nickel for the VIX Sept 50 calls actually knows something. Because if he "does", that would suggest a market move 'Straight out of Lehmam""


Fast forward to Monday, when we had a market move that was, drumroll, Straight out of Lehman indeed, and shockingly, the VIX 50 calls, which were bought when the VIX was trading at half that value, were briefly in the money!
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/08-overflow/20150824_vix1_0.jpg

And, as the chart below shows, in this case betting on the end of the world was perhaps the most profitable trade of the year: purchased on the offer at 10 cents, the calls traded as high as $2.50 one trading day later, a 2,400% return in one day. We tried to do an XIRR analysis what that return would look like annualized but Excel simply Reffed out.


ZH link (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-26/betting-end-world-just-returned-2400-one-day)

[mick silver]

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[madfranks]

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We have to wait and see; yesterday it was green all day and then at the end of the day it tanked to end on a loss.

[Horn]

We have to wait and see; yesterday it was green all day and then at the end of the day it tanked to end on a loss.

You make it sound as though its some sort of pyramid scheme.

[Plastic]

Gregory Mannarino showing the DOW 50 day moving average is about to death cross through the 300 day moving average with chart porn.

*The yellow 50 day moving average appears to be closing in on the purple 300 day moving average.

It is my contention that when this event occurs, and it appears to be just weeks away, a MAJOR stock market event will occur. We can expect a massive loss in the value of stocks, one which has the potential to be the financial event of our lifetime.*

http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/29482055-gregory-mannarino/4318726-the-stock-market-crash-of-15-has-already-begun-and-its-about-to-get-much-worse

[Neuro]

What does this mean?
It means the next two days the Dow will rally 990 points! ;D

[mick silver]

are buy more beans an rice

[expat4ever]

are buy more beans an rice
I did that yesterday. Mostly beans but I also added another years worth of TP. Tomorrow I am headed to the international market. One, for more rice, they have much better prices on large quantities and 2 to feed my addiction. They have durian and I cant get enough of them. Fuckers got me hooked and at 15 bucks a whack its not a cheap addiction. Hopefully will get some cheap noodles as well.

[mick silver]

Dominant Social Theme: Things are getting better and better.
Free-Market Analysis: The Baltic Dry Index has received a lot of coverage because it tracks shipping activity worldwide – and it has never been lower. Nobody is shipping much of anything, it seems.

For this reason, Tavares's analysis of US rail transportation may have received more attention than it would have otherwise. It was posted at ZeroHedge, for instance, and reposted at other websites as well.
He concluded that rail transport volumes were showing considerable weakness (see excerpt above). However, the weakness was relatively recent so he declines to draw any firm conclusions.
More:
The rail intermodal traffic category registers the long-haul movement of shipping containers and truck trailers by rail whenever combined with (a much shorter) truck movement at one or both ends ... The weaknesses leading up to the 2008 financial crisis is pretty noticeable ...
The analysis covers commodity groups within the context of rail traffic. According to the article, rail shipping shows a continued glut of oil and gas. Forest products, a good indicator of construction, have also fallen off significantly. However, motor vehicle shipping has been setting a new high.
His conclusion:
Our analysis of rail volumes provides a mixed picture of the US economy at this point: oil & gas and mining-related sectors are taking a real beating, some consumer sectors seem to be holding up and there are signs of weakness in the housing sector. 2016 should witness some type of a resolution here.
Tavares, as we can see, declines to make any firm predictions. However, over at the CFA Institute, Ron Rimkus writes that "2016 is a turning point for markets," and that while the world's outlook is grim, the US may benefit considerably from Federal Reserve (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1855/) rate hikes.
The Fed ... signaled four .25% increases in interest rates are in store for 2016 ... Although the Fed has proceeded ever so gingerly, the world is nevertheless at a turning point punctuated by the Fed's historic rate hike.
... With these modest expectations, weak economies around the globe, and a rising dollar, maybe – just maybe — all that global capital sloshing around will find a home here in the US stock market? Think about it . . .
Could Yellen's rate hikes set off the next leg of a US securities boom? We recently reviewed an article (http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36720/Preparing-for-the-Great-Unwind/) by David Stockman that was relentlessly negative about central bank (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2958/) currency debasement (already in play) and the effect it was going to have on indebted governments and large quasi-public entities generally.
According to Stockman – and his analysis is shared by numerous hard-money analysts and economists – as the era of easy money gives way to tighter monetary volumes and higher rates, the world's economy will show considerable stress.
In fact, there are those like Euro Pacific's Peter Schiff (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2005/) who believe that one way or another Yellen and company will be forced to continue easy-money policies because wringing out the leverage of US$175 trillion (Stockman's estimate, printed since 2008) is an impossibility.
We would tend to agree with the hard-money crowd – and have written such – but the suggestion that US markets should benefit from higher rates (not too high, of course) is an intriguing one.
It doesn't mean anything in the longer term, given the mess of US finances. But in the short term, a continued securities rally might benefit large corporations and also enhance the prospects of smaller enterprises and companies that have not yet gone public.
Conclusion: Certainly a sustained rally, even with considerable volatility, would enhance the prospects of emerging sectors. One such sector – cannabis – has yet to fully debut on the world's stage, but if US markets continue favorable, that process might be considerably eased.
- See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36723/Whither-the-Market-in-an-Era-of-Rate-Hikes/#sthash.g4diSZLQ.dpuf

[mick silver]

I have started a few thread about this , the charts show this dropping off like a rock in water all one needs to do is go back t 2007 an 2008 and you see the same thing but this time there more ships parked .................The Baltic Dry Index has received a lot of coverage because it tracks shipping activity worldwide – and it has never been lower. Nobody is shipping much of anything, it seems.

[mick silver]

U.S. StocksData as of 12:31:07pm ET
Wednesday’s Trading:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -221.44

16,937.22
-1.29%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -49.47

4,841.96
-1.01%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -22.75

1,993.96

[mick silver]

http://cdn4.img.sputniknews.com/images/103250/86/1032508600.jpg

[mick silver]

U.S. StocksSee Pre-Market Trading (http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket) Data as of Jan 6
Wednesday’s Close:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -252.15

16,906.51
-1.47%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -55.665

4,835.77
-1.14%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -26.45

1,990.26
-1.31%

[mick silver]

World MarketsNorth and South American markets finished broadly lower on Wednesday with shares in Brazil leading the region. The Bovespa is down 1.52% while U.S.'s S&P 500 is off 1.31% and Mexico's IPC is lower by 0.83%.
North and South American Indexes


Index
Country
Change
% Change
Level
Last Update


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Dow Jones Industrial Average (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
United States
-252.15
-1.47%
16,906.51
Jan 6


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
S&P 500 INDEX (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)
United States
-26.45
-1.31%
1,990.26
Jan 6


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Brazil Bovespa Stock Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/bovespa)
Brazil
-646.18
-1.52%
41,773.14
Jan 6


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Canada S&P/TSX 60 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/tsx60)
Canada
-11.69
-1.54%
746.31
Jan 6


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Santiago Index IPSA (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ipsa)
Chile
-8.92
-0.31%
2,890.78
Jan 6


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
IPC (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ipc)
Mexico
-350.49
-0.83%
41,691.19
Jan 6

[mick silver]

Asian Indexes


Index
Country
Change
% Change
Level
Last Update


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Australia ASX All Ordinaries (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/asx100)
Australia
-109.20
-2.11%
5,068.80
12:11am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Shanghai SE Composite Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/se_composite)
China
-236.84
-7.04%
3,125.00
2:29am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Hang Seng (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/hang_seng)
Hong Kong
-647.47
-3.09%
20,333.34
3:01am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Mumbai Sensex (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/sensex)
India
-1,265.71
-4.85%
24,851.83
6:22am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Nikkei 225 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/nikkei225)
Japan
-423.98
-2.33%
17,767.34
1:15am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketClosed.png
Taiwan TSEC 50 Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/tsec50)
Taiwan
-138.33
-1.73%
7,852.06
12:33am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpenClosedKey.gif

[mick silver]

European Indexes




Index
Country
Change
% Change
Level
Last Update


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpen.png
FTSE 100 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ftse100)
England
-167.10
-2.75%
5,906.28
6:22am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpen.png
Euronext 100 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/euronext)
Europe
-24.07
-2.74%
855.20
6:07am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpen.png
CAC 40 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/cac40)
France
-121.38
-2.71%
4,359.09
6:07am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpen.png
DAX (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/dax)
Germany
-363.71
-3.56%
9,850.31
6:22am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpen.png
Swiss Market Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/swiss)
Switzerland
-248.09
-2.88%
8,365.33
6:22am ET


http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/.element/img/3.0/data/marketOpenClosedKey.gifAsian markets finished sharply lower today with shares in China leading the region. The Shanghai Composite is down 7.04% while Hong Kong's Hang Seng is off 3.09% and Japan's Nikkei 225 is lower by 2.33%.

[mick silver]

China stock trading abruptly halted after 7% plunge by Charles Riley and Rich Barbieri @CNNMoneyInvest (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=CNNMoneyInvest) January 7, 2016: 5:21 AM ET









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Richard Quest explains China's circuit breakers







Trading in Chinese stocks was suspended Thursday for a second day this week after a dramatic plunge that sent shocks through global markets. Dealing was briefly halted after the CSI 300 stock index fell 5%. When markets re-opened, losses reached 7% within seconds, triggering a complete suspension for the day. The shortened trading session lasted just 30 minutes.





The abrupt decline triggered so-called circuit breakers, which Chinese authorities recently implemented in a bid to tame the country's volatile markets. The new circuit breakers were also used to halt trading early on Monday.
While circuit breakers initially limit losses, they may encourage investors to sell more. Why? Observers say the first breaker is reached too quickly, and investors use the cool-down period to line up additional sell orders.
The CSI 300, which tracks stocks in Shanghai and Shenzhen, has already fallen 12% in 2016.
China's central bank responded Thursday by announcing it would pump $10.6 billion into the financial system. That follows an injection of $20 billion on Tuesday.
The moves are designed to juice stocks and calm mainland markets, which are dominated by small savers who put more faith in speculative investing newsletters than company fundamentals. But observers say they also signal that China's leaders are concerned about the economy.
"Investors recognize that the [central bank's] actions serve as confirmation that China's economy is slowing in a meaningful fashion, which has real repercussions on global ... growth," Mike O'Rourke, chief market strategist at JonesTrading, wrote in a note.
Related: Check world market data (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/asia/?iid=EL)
Two separate reports this week fanned fears of slower growth in the world's second-largest economy. One showed that China's services sector grew at the weakest pace in 17 months in December -- another revealed that activity had slowed in the country's key factory sector.
Another concern is China's weakening currency: Before trading began Thursday, China's central bank set the yuan's value at its weakest level since March 2011. A weaker currency can help Chinese exporters and support growth, but it can also push money out of the country and hurt asset values.
Worries over the currency have intensified since a surprise devaluation in August. At the time, Beijing said it was hoping to allow market forces more control over the yuan -- but the central bank has spent billions in recent months to prop up the currency. On Thursday, regulators set the yuan's daily trading limit sharply lower, the largest such decline since August.
The yuan has lost nearly 6% against the U.S. dollar since August.
Related: Investors should focus on China's economy, not stocks (http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/investing/china-stock-market-economy/?iid=EL)
Chinese markets had stabilized in the final months of 2015 after a summer crash caused trillions of dollars in losses.
Beijing reacted forcefully, spending at least $236 billion to stop the slide. The central bank cut interest rates, while regulators suspended new share listings and threatened to jail short sellers. In an effort to prop up the market, regulators organized the purchase of shares using cash supplied by the central bank.
Markets are now dealing with the hangover from Beijing's intervention. In particular, investors had been worried that brokers would unload huge amounts of stock on Friday, when a ban on selling by major shareholders expired.
On Thursday, regulators announced new rules that will sharply limit stock sales. Major shareholders will be able to unload only 1% of their holdings in any three month period, and they must disclose their plans 15 days in advance.
Some analysts argue that Beijing would be best served by resisting the temptation to intervene in markets. Mainland stocks are still expensive when compared to corporate profits, and while a sharp decline in equity prices would be painful, Beijing's efforts to prop up the market are only delaying the inevitable.
"People think this is a manipulated, distorted market," said Peter Lewis, the director of Peter Lewis Consulting. "It's a market that's not open ... there are all sorts of restrictions on selling, and foreign institutions will be very alarmed by this."
The pain extended beyond mainland China on Thursday. Hong Kong's Hang Seng dropped 3.1%, while Japan's Nikkei shed 2.3%. U.S. stock futures were sharply lower.
Concerns about China have also helped ravage oil prices -- a trend that in turn hurts global economies and further unsettles stocks. Oil is now trading below $33 a barrel.
Most investing professionals recently surveyed by CNNMoney listed China as the biggest risk to U.S. stocks (http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/21/investing/stocks-markets-2016-china/?iid=EL). When Chinese markets were halted Monday, the move triggered a global selloff, including losses of roughly 2% in the U.S.
-- Jessie Jiang, Pamela Boykoff, Jonathan Stayton, Lex Haris and Matt Egan contributed to this report.


CNNMoney (New York) First published January 6, 2016: 9:22 PM ET

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Macy's to cut over 4,000 jobs after poor holiday sales by Matt Egan (http://money.cnn.com/author/matt-egan/index.html) @mattmegan5 (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=mattmegan5) January 6, 2016: 5:06 PM ET





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The pink slips are flying at Macy's following a holiday season clouded by warm weather. The iconic department store announced plans on Wednesday to lay off about 4,350 employees across the country.





Macy's (M (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=M&source=story_quote_link)) said about 3,000 sales associates will be impacted, or about three to four per Macy's and Bloomingdale's location. The company expects that about half of the affected store associates will be "placed in other positions."
Another 1,350 employees in back office and service center positions will be impacted by the cost-cutting moves. Some of those workers too are expected to be reassigned to other jobs, Macy's said.
Upper management is also being impacted, with Macy's implementing a "voluntary separation opportunity" for about 165 senior executives.
All told, Macy's hopes to save about $400 million to help offset its "disappointing" 2015 results.
It was fresh evidence of the struggles at Macy's. The company said sales in the critical November and December period slumped by a worse-than-expected 5%. Profits are also expected to miss the company's own targets.
Like other retailers (http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/16/investing/warm-december-bad-for-retail/?iid=EL), Macy's blamed the "historically warm weather" in northern climates. Macy's said about 80% of its sales declines can be attributed to shortfalls in cold-weather goods like coats, sweaters, hats, gloves and scarves.
Macy's also pointed to the impact of the strong U.S. dollar (http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/dollar-strong-start-to-2016/index.html?iid=EL), which has caused international tourists to spend less.
The struggles are forcing Macy's to close stores. On Wednesday the company listed 36 stores slated to close (http://investors.macysinc.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=84477&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2126953) early this spring, including ones in Los Angeles, Buffalo and Fort Worth.
Macy's expects the cost-cutting moves to hurt fourth-quarter profits by $200 million.
Still, Wall Street cheered the belt tightening, bidding Macy's shares up nearly 6% in after-hours trading on Wednesday. The stock lost nearly half its value in 2015, making it one of the worst performers in the S&P 500 (http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/22/investing/worst-stocks-2015-oil-energy/index.html?iid=EL).


CNNMoney (New York) First published January 6, 2016: 4:58 PM ET

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giant miner Freeport-McMoRan down 89% over last 5 years

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U.S. StocksData as of 9:38:49am ET
Thursday’s Trading:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -268.15

16,638.36
-1.59%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -84.18

4,751.59
-1.74%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -28.73

1,961.53

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Will the blood stop, or is this just the beginning?

[mick silver]

beginning U.S. StocksData as of 1:27:09pm ET
Thursday’s Trading:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -327.01

16,579.50
-1.93%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -118.55

4,717.22
-2.45%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -38.50

1,951.76

[mick silver]

Is this another 2008 for the stock market?

[madfranks]

-379 bitches!!

[mick silver]

Thursday’s Close:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -392.41

16,514.10
-2.32%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -146.34

4,689.43
-3.03%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -47.17

1,943.09 take that bitch

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1,943.09
4:14:32pm ET


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-4.07%
40,694.72
3:19pm ET


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-2.11%
730.54
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Chile
-55.79
-1.92%
2,843.91
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Stock Market Crash 2016: This Is The Worst Start To A Year For Stocks Ever
Published: January 8, 2016
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Source: Michael Snyder, Guest Post (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/stock-market-crash-2016-this-is-the-worst-start-to-a-year-for-stocks-ever)


We have never had a year start the way that 2016 has started. In the U.S., the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 have both posted their worst four-day starts to a year ever. Canadian stocks are now down 21 percent (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-07/bloodbath) since September, and it has been an absolute bloodbath in Europe over the past four days. Of course the primary catalyst for all of this is what has been going on in China. There has been an emergency suspension of trading in China two times within the past four days (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/7-percent-crash-causes-emergency-shutdown-of-stock-markets-in-china-for-the-2nd-time-in-4-days), and nobody is quite certain what is going to happen next. Eventually this wave of panic selling will settle down, but that won’t mean that this crisis will be over. In fact, what is coming is going to be much worse than what we have already seen. On Thursday I was doing a show with some friends, and we were amazed that stocks just seemed to keep falling and falling and falling. The Dow closed down 392 points, and the NASDAQ got absolutely slammed. At this point, the Dow and the NASDAQ are both officially in “correction territory”, and some of the talking heads on television are warning that this could be the beginning of a “bear market”. But of course some of the other “experts” are insisting that this is just a temporary bump in the road.
But what everyone can agree on is that we have never seen a start to a year like this one. The following comes from CNN (http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/07/investing/stocks-markets-dow-china/index.html)…

The global market freakout of 2016 just got worse.
The latest scare came on Thursday as China’s stock market crashed 7% overnight and crude oil plummeted to the lowest level in more than 12 years.
The Dow dropped 392 points on Thursday. The S&P 500 fell 2.4%, while the Nasdaq tumbled 3%.
The wave of selling has knocked the Dow down 911 points, or more than 5% so far this year. That’s the worst four-day percentage loss to start a year on record, according to FactSet stats that go back to 1897.
When CNN starts sounding like The Economic Collapse Blog, you know that things are really bad. I particularly like their use of the phrase “global market freakout”. I might have to borrow that one.
Even some of the biggest and most trusted stocks are plummeting. For instance, Apple dropped to $96.45 on Thursday. It is now down a total of 28 percent since hitting a record high of more than 134 dollars a share back in April.
So that means that if someone put all of their retirement money into Apple stock last April (which may have seemed like a really good idea at that time), by now more than one-fourth of that money is gone.
For months, I have been warning that the exact same patterns that we witnessed just prior to the great stock market crash of 2008 were happening again. To me, the parallels between 2008 and 2015/2016 were just uncanny. And now other very prominent names are making similar comparisons. According to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-stocks-plunge-7-percent-triggering-another-market-closure/2016/01/07/d6a83bf5-10b2-4289-8aab-98e485a3fe6e_story.html), George Soros says that the way this new crisis is unfolding “reminds me of the crisis we had in 2008″…

Influential investor George Soros said that China had a “major adjustment problem” on its hands. “I would say it amounts to a crisis,” he told an economic forum in Sri Lanka, according to Bloomberg News. “When I look at the financial markets, there is a serious challenge which reminds me of the crisis we had in 2008.”
Don’t get me wrong – I am certainly not a supporter of George Soros. My point is that we are starting to hear a lot of really ominous talk from a lot of different directions. All over the world, people are starting to understand that the next great financial crisis is already here.
As I write this tonight, I just feel quite a bit of sadness. A lot of hard working people are going to lose a lot of money this year, and that includes people that I know personally. I wish that my voice had been clearer and louder. I wish that I could have done more to get people to understand what was coming. I wish that my warnings could have made more of a difference.
I just think about how I would feel if everything that I had worked for all my life was suddenly wiped out. And that is what is going to end up happening to some of these people. When you lose everything, it can be absolutely debilitating.
You only make money in the markets if you get out in time. And unfortunately, most of the general population will be like deer in the headlights and won’t know which way to move.
There will be up days for the markets in our near future. But don’t be fooled by them. It is important to remember that some of the greatest up days in U.S. stock market history were right in the middle of the stock market crash of 2008. So don’t let a rally fool you into thinking that the crisis is over.
The financial crisis that began in the second half of 2015 is now accelerating, and everything that we have witnessed over the past few days is just a natural extension of what has already been happening.
Personally, I am just really looking forward to this weekend when I will hopefully get caught up on some rest. Plus, my Washington Redskins will be hosting a playoff game on Sunday, and if they find a way to win that game that will put me in a particularly positive mood.
It is good to enjoy these simple pleasures while we still can. Unprecedented chaos is coming this year, and we are all going to need strength and courage for what is ahead.


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U.S. StocksData as of 3:38:23pm ET
Friday’s Trading:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -104.75

16,409.35
-0.63%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -21.06

4,668.37
-0.45%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -12.52

1,930.57

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U.S. StocksData as of 3:55:24pm ET
Friday’s Trading:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -158.23

16,355.87
-0.96%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -43.97

4,645.46
-0.94%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -21.52

1,921.57
-1.11%

[mick silver]

U.S. StocksSee After-Hours Trading (http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours) Data as of 4:58:39pm ET
Friday’s Close:


Dow (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow) -167.65

16,346.45
-1.02%
Nasdaq (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq) -45.80

4,643.63
-0.98%
S&P (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp) -21.06

1,922.03
-1.08%

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Hedge-fund billionaire Steve Cohen avoids lifetime SEC ban by Matt Egan (http://money.cnn.com/author/matt-egan/index.html) @mattmegan5 (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=mattmegan5) January 8, 2016: 3:39 PM ET





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So much for that lifetime ban of hedge-fund billionaire Steve Cohen. The Securities and Exchange Commission reached a settlement (http://www.sec.gov/news/pressrelease/2016-3.html) with Cohen on Friday that allows the star investor to return to managing client money in 2018.





It's a big win for Cohen, who had been facing a lifetime ban under the original charges filed by the SEC.
Not only that, but Cohen -- whose personal net worth is estimated at $12 billion (http://www.forbes.com/profile/steve-cohen/) -- also avoided a financial penalty.
The SEC found that Cohen failed to supervise former portfolio manager Mathew Martoma, who the agency says engaged in insider trading in 2008 while working at Cohen's hedge fund SAC Capital. The firm pled guilty in 2013. Regulators also say Cohen ignored red flags that should have caused him to take action.
Under the terms of the deal, Cohen is banned from serving in a supervisory role at any broker, dealer or investment adviser until 2018 and must retain an independent consultant.
Related: Martin Shkreli used $45M in E*Trade account to secure bail (http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/08/news/martin-shkreli-bond-e-trade/index.html?iid=EL)
Andrew Ceresney, director of the SEC's enforcement division, said the punishment achieves "significant and immediate investor protection and deterrence."
Still, it's a dramatic scaling back by the SEC, which was hampered by the loss of a key court ruling.
In a memo to employees at his investment firm Point72 that was obtained by CNNMoney, Cohen said the decision to settle gives his firm certainty and opens the possibility of raising outside capital in the future.
"The longer the pending litigation lingered, the more it distracted from the world-class firm that we are building," Cohen wrote.
Cohen said the settlement doesn't mean it's a time to be "complacent" and promised his firm would continue to do business at the "highest ethical and professional levels."


CNNMoney (New York) First published January 8, 2016: 3:39 PM ET

[Neuro]

Another Jew above the Law^^^

[mick silver]

Markets
Updated: 1:16:59pm ET


Dow -0.30%
16,296.97 / -49.48 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
Nasdaq -0.91%
4,601.33 / -42.30 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq)
S&P -0.59%
1,910.77 / -11.26 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)

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Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
BDIY:IND






429.00
16.00
3.60%


As of 08:05:16 ET on 01/08/2016.

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Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
BDIY:IND






429.00
16.00
3.60%


As of 08:05:16 ET on 01/08/2016.
I don't think I have ever seen it so low, and it still went up 16 points...

[mick silver]

Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
BDIY:IND






402.00
13.00
3.13%

[mick silver]

DOW JONES INDU AVERAGE INDEX (Dow Jones Global Indexes:INDU)
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Quote Details

[mick silver]

The Global Economy Has Just Come To A Screeching Halt, The Collapse Is Inevitable


Published on Jan 11, 2016
1 in 3 people are saying that because of Obamacare they cannot afford the basics of life. Auto loan bubble is about to pop. Rail shipment is now signalling that the economy has come to a screeching halt and it is collapsing. Baltic Dry Index has completely crashed, ships are not sailing they are just sitting in port. Central banks and the wealthy are quietly purchasing gold and silver.

end https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/the-global-economy-has-just-come-to-a-screeching-halt-the-collapse-is-inevitable/

[mick silver]

Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
BDIY:IND






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Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
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402.00
13.00
3.13%


As of 08:07:12 ET on 01/12/2016.
Previous Close
415.00

52Wk Range
402.00 - 1,222.00

1 Yr Return
-47.24%

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Before it's here, it's on the Bloomberg Terminal. (http://bloom.bg/dg-ws-core-bcom-m1)

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[mick silver]

Markets
Updated: 4:24:16pm ET


Dow -2.21%
16,151.41 / -364.81 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
Nasdaq -3.41%
4,526.07 / -159.85 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq)
S&P -2.50%
1,890.28 / -48.40 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)

[mick silver]

looks like they cant plug the dam ... North and South American Indexes


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Dow Jones Industrial Average (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
United States
-364.81
-2.21%
16,151.41
Jan 13


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S&P 500 INDEX (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)
United States
-48.40
-2.50%
1,890.28
Jan 13


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Brazil Bovespa Stock Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/bovespa)
Brazil
-569.39
-1.44%
38,944.44
Jan 13


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Canada S&P/TSX 60 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/tsx60)
Canada
-12.96
-1.78%
715.21
Jan 13


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Santiago Index IPSA (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ipsa)
Chile
+2.67
+0.09%
2,820.56
Jan 13


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IPC (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ipc)
Mexico
-13.96
-0.03%
41,008.78
Jan 13


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Asian Indexes


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Australia ASX All Ordinaries (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/asx100)
Australia
-77.50
-1.54%
4,964.10
12:10am ET


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Shanghai SE Composite Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/se_composite)
China
+58.05
+1.97%
3,007.65
2:29am ET


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Hang Seng (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/hang_seng)
Hong Kong
-117.47
-0.59%
19,817.41
3:01am ET


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Mumbai Sensex (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/sensex)
India
-81.14
-0.33%
24,772.97
6:34am ET


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Nikkei 225 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/nikkei225)
Japan
-474.68
-2.68%
17,240.95
1:15am ET


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Taiwan TSEC 50 Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/tsec50)
Taiwan
-81.73
-1.04%
7,742.88
12:33am ET


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[mick silver]

European Indexes


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FTSE 100 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ftse100)
England
-119.55
-2.01%
5,841.42
6:34am ET


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Euronext 100 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/euronext)
Europe
-27.98
-3.25%
832.61
6:19am ET


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CAC 40 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/cac40)
France
-149.88
-3.41%
4,242.06
6:19am ET


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DAX (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/dax)
Germany
-306.05
-3.07%
9,654.91
6:34am ET


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Swiss Market Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/swiss)
Switzerland
-223.00
-2.65%
8,191.83
6:34am ET


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[mick silver]

Markets
Updated: 5:16pm ET


Dow -2.39%
15,988.08 / -390.97 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
Nasdaq -2.74%
4,488.42 / -126.58 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq)
S&P -2.16%
1,880.33 / -41.51 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)

[Neuro]

Are we set up for a BLACK MONDAY?

[mick silver]

Financial Collapse Will Leads To War , looking back history show this

[Neuro]

Financial Collapse Will Leads To War , looking back history show this

No doubt. Just got back to Sweden today, heard on the radio, that Saudi Arabia needs an oil price of $100 an barrel just to balance their budget... Probably the main reason they murdered that Shiite cleric. Get a war going with Iran and oil will easily climb to it and BEYOND... Interesting though that Iran's sanctions probably will be lifted today.

[mick silver]

once Iran's sanctions are drop the price of oil will also drop

[mick silver]

he one funny mf ... Cramer: Real China worries not with its stock markethttps://s.yimg.com/dh/ap/default/141024/cnbc-logo-3.png (http://www.cnbc.com/) by CNBC Videos (http://www.cnbc.com/) 7:44 mins Mad Money host Jim Cramer discusses China's economy versus its stock market, and the impact around the world. Cramer says this week, we realized the Communist Party doesn't know what it's doing, and is just making it up as they go along.

[Neuro]

once Iran's sanctions are drop the price of oil will also drop

So about now then. And Saudi will get even more desperate! They need war with Iran now more than ever

[mick silver]

Markets
Updated: Jan 15


Dow -2.39%
15,988.08 / -390.97 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
Nasdaq -2.74%
4,488.42 / -126.59 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq)
S&P -2.16%
1,880.33 / -41.51 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)

[mick silver]

Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
BDIY:IND






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[Neuro]

Baltic Dry Index + Watchlist
BDIY:IND






373.00
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Death of world trade!

[cheka.]

once Iran's sanctions are drop the price of oil will also drop

insiders likely already trading on this--so just as likely priced in

[mick silver]

Markets
Updated: 5:16pm ET


Dow +0.17%
16,016.02 / +27.94 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
Nasdaq -0.26%
4,476.95 / -11.47 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq)
S&P +0.05%
1,881.33 / +1.00 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)












Most Popular Stocks (http://money.cnn.com/data/hotstocks/index.html)

Chesapeake Energy 3.08 -13.48% http://money.cnn.com/.element/ssi/data/8.0/mostpop_images/74836.png (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CHK)
Freeport-McMoRan Inc 3.96 -8.97% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=FCX)
Netflix 107.89 +3.70% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=NFLX)
Delta Air Lines 45.96 +3.28% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=DAL)
Alcoa 6.74 -2.32% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=AA)
Updated: 4:00pm ET


World Markets (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/americas)Japan Nikkei 225-1.23% 16,839.35 -206.46 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/nikkei225)
Hong Kong Hang Seng+2.03% 19,635.81 +398.36 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/hang_seng)

London FTSE 100+1.65% 5,876.80 +96.88 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ftse100)
Germany DAX+1.50% 9,664.21 +144.49 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/dax)

Updated: 8:04pm ET



Key Stats (http://money.cnn.com/data/dow30/)

10-year yield 2.04% +0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/data/bonds/index.html)
Oil $28.05 -1.44% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html)
Yen ¥117.30 -0.34 (http://money.cnn.com/data/currencies/index.html)
Euro $1.09 +0.18 (http://money.cnn.com/data/currencies/index.html)
Gold $1,090.30 +0.11% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html) Updated: 8:24pm ET


Gainers (http://money.cnn.com/data/hotstocks/)

Viacom Inc +4.69% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=VIAB)
Tenet Healthcare Corp +4.03% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=THC)
Netflix Inc +3.70% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=NFLX)
Delta Air Lines Inc +3.28% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=DAL)
CONSOL Energy Inc +3.21% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CNX) Updated: 4:00pm ET


Losers (http://money.cnn.com/data/hotstocks/)

Chesapeake Energy Corp -13.48% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CHK)
Freeport-McMoRan Inc -8.97% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=FCX)
Ensco PLC -8.54% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=ESV)
Newmont Mining Corp -7.85% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=NEM)
ConocoPhillips -7.52% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=COP) Updated:

[mick silver]

Oil $28.20 -0.91% Gas $2.09 -0.24% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html)
Gold $1,089.00 -0.01% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html)
Silver $14.03 -0.64% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html)
Corn $367.50 -0.07% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html)
Updated

[midnight rambler]

I talked to someone today who's been in the oil biz for over 30 years and therefore he's seen a lot, experienced a lot. He advised me that oil will likely be coming back up to above $40 in about four months.

[mick silver]

Markets
Updated: Jan 19


Dow +0.17%
16,016.02 / +27.94 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow)
Nasdaq -0.26%
4,476.95 / -11.47 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/nasdaq)
S&P +0.05%
1,881.33 / +1.00 (http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp)












Most Popular Stocks (http://money.cnn.com/data/hotstocks/index.html)

Chesapeake Energy 3.08 -13.48% http://money.cnn.com/.element/ssi/data/8.0/mostpop_images/74836.png (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CHK)
Freeport-McMoRan Inc 3.96 -8.97% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=FCX)
ConocoPhillips 36.40 -7.52% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=COP)
Netflix 107.89 +3.70% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=NFLX)
Chevron 81.51 -2.58% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CVX)
Updated: 01/19/2016


World Markets (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/americas)Japan Nikkei 225-3.71% 16,416.19 -608.74 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/nikkei225)
Hong Kong Hang Seng-3.82% 18,886.30 -720.90 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/hang_seng)

London FTSE 100-3.02% 5,699.12 -172.31 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/ftse100)
Germany DAX-2.96% 9,377.99 -277.74 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/dax)

Updated: 6:06am ET



Key Stats (http://money.cnn.com/data/dow30/)

10-year yield 2.04% +0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/data/bonds/index.html)
Oil $27.57 -3.13% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html)
Yen ¥116.50 -1.13 (http://money.cnn.com/data/currencies/index.html)
Euro $1.09 +0.05 (http://money.cnn.com/data/currencies/index.html)
Gold $1,094.80 +0.52% (http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/index.html) Updated: 6:21am ET


Gainers (http://money.cnn.com/data/hotstocks/)

Viacom Inc +4.69% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=VIAB)
Tenet Healthcare Corp +4.12% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=THC)
Netflix Inc +3.70% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=NFLX)
Delta Air Lines Inc +3.26% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=DAL)
CONSOL Energy Inc +3.21% 0.00 (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CNX) Update

[mick silver]

Oil $27.80 -4.78

[mick silver]

Asian Indexes


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Australia ASX All Ordinaries (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/asx100)
Australia
-58.20
-1.17%
4,896.90
12:11am ET


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Shanghai SE Composite Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/se_composite)
China
-31.05
-1.03%
2,976.69
2:29am ET


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Hang Seng (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/hang_seng)
Hong Kong
-749.51
-3.82%
18,886.30
3:01am ET


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Mumbai Sensex (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/sensex)
India
-417.80
-1.71%
24,062.04
6:26am ET


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Nikkei 225 (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/nikkei225)
Japan
-632.18
-3.71%
16,416.19
1:15am ET


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Taiwan TSEC 50 Index (http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/tsec50)
Taiwan
-155.76
-1.98%
7,699.12
12:33am ET


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