Union of Freedom Loving Posters

[Josey]

As an active participating member of this forum and since this is the ground floor sort of. The mods have made a set of rules they feel we should obey. I say okay fine surely I can follow just rules and just rulings, but too many times Mods take liberties with the stretching of them. Therefore I suggest the members express what we expect out of management. WE are what makes up the community, if it’s a matter of money to start a forum, Well there is plenty of us willing pay for the freedom of all. But we are here now and should make the best of it.

But from this date on instead of turning into a bunch of egg shell walking, fully censored group of ass kissers, we should show we are the strength of any forum, and if the Mods are going to hold us accountable for our actions we should hold them accountable too.
I offer other members to add 3A and so on, If we don’t act now. You’ll be in the same boat once you create an super active forum where losing a few members a month to bans is acceptable normal operating procedure. By adding reasonable by-laws or you express youre in agreement with the union of freedom loving posters to this thread, you agree as a member to support the rebellion or revolution of any tyranny of your brother/sister members. Even the creation of new communities that develop from GSUS admins abuse.


Statutes and By-Laws of the International Union of Freedom Loving Posters
as Adopted by the First General Assembly Members and by unanimous posters agreement of the Adhering GSUS Administration Bodies of 2010
FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES UPHOLD AND ADVANCE THE INTEGRITY,
HONOR AND DIGNITY OF THE GSUS BY;

1A. Using their knowledge and skill for the enhancement of world wide truths
Being honest, impartial, and serving with fidelity the members and guest
Striving to increase the competence and prestige of International message forums.

2A. Using patience’s and tact by never posting the tyrant comment of “This forum is someone’s house, If you don’t like it leave, Start your own site. Or any variation there of.







I HAVE SPOKEN!!

[Gaillo]

Using patience’s and tact by never posting the tyrant comment of “This forum is someone’s house, If you don’t like it leave, Start your own site. Or any variation there of.

Interesting post, up to that point. I have no problem being as impartial and non-tyrannical as humanly possible - and respecting all of you and your desires. If I do not live up to this ideal, I would expect the forum to call for my resignation, and I would gladly offer it under such circumstances. HOWEVER...

This forum is someone else's house, if you don't like it please feel free to leave, or start your own site. ;D

Seriously though... this belongs to JQP, and HE is the one who dictates how it is used, not me - not the other mods - not the users. True, a forum is made up of individual members and THEY make the community - but I feel the need to remind some of the socialist bitches on this forum of one fact:

Freedom of the Press is limited to those who own one.

JQP has been VERY generous to set this up for you all, to use freely, and to post pretty much whatever you want so long as you follow some VERY reasonable and loose rules. There is nothing nazi about the rules here, it's all common sense and being civil to each other.

Is there anyone here who can't live with that?

[dysgenic]

I'd like to be member of this club. I'm going to add my 2 cents in an informal way-

My main issue is that certain rules are prone to be used as a pretense for agendas that have nothing to do with the stated rules (ie- personal vendettas, winning an argument, etc). That's why I always talk about selective enforcement. With selective enforcement, it becomes very simple to carry out one's agenda based upon the pretense of the rules. It's the same thing GIM1 did... hell, it's the same thing our government does. You have to either-

1. apply the rules uniformly across the board,
or
2. only act when egregious and repeated violations occur.

Personally, I prefer #1, but it doesn't look like that will happen here. If it's going to be #2, it become uber-important to hold the mods accountable by having their actions out in the open for everyone to see.

[SeekYeFirst]

While the gunless outlaw is leery of censorship, I am not a fan of unions ;). This board is getting some quality posts and good numbers and more good members will show up. However, I do encourage the MODS to be the ones walking on eggshells while the membership is forming.

[dysgenic]

Here is the thing about "this is someone's house and if you don't like it, leave."
It's usually said as a last ditch justification for unjustifiable actions. I, for one, can live with the stated rules as long as they are either:

a- administered uniformly,
or
b- only administered when violations are egregious and/or repeated.

Along with A or B I believe the actions of the mods have to be transparent to a certain degree. Secret bannings for secret rules violations doesn't cut it. When a mod explains what they did and why they did it, it alleviates suspicion and is good for everyone.

So in a sense, you are correct about the 'house' analogy, as I fully admit I would not choose the rules of this forum if I had my druthers (but if I want to stay, I think it's fair for mods to expect me to obey them).
But once members agree to live by them AND THEY ACTUALLY DO LIVE BY THEM, is it not reasonable to assume that the rules won't be changed in the middle of the game GIM1 style? Is it not reasaonable to assume that rule abiding members won't be censored and/or banned? You tell me.

[Grand Master Melon]

I used to belong to a group on Myspace called "Myspace Left Vs. Right". The mod never commented on anything as far as I can recall. He or she felt that as moderator their only job was to make sure the posted rules were followed and that was it. No opinion, no nothing.

I quite like the idea of someone that truly sits back to moderate a debate or board instead of interloping as a poster and moderator. Sure it is possible that he or she posted under another account but I got the feeling that they took their job as moderator very seriously and would never have done such a thing as it would have breeched any trust he or she had with the members of the group.

Just a thought.

[Libertytree]

MHO is that I think and believe that the mods here are reasonable gentlemen and will be fair and impartial, likewise I believe that if an error were made they would acquiesce on the weight of evidence and forum input. This baby's still in her infancy, give her some time. The posters that are mods have my trust......until they break it, I'll cross that bridge then.

[Book]

Seriously though... this belongs to JQP, and HE is the one who dictates how it is used, not me - not the other mods - not the users. True, a forum is made up of individual members and THEY make the community - but I feel the need to remind some of the socialist bitches on this forum of one fact:

Freedom of the Press is limited to those who own one.


Agreed. That's the bottom line. Anyone here who does not understand this reality is naive or a fool.

JSP has a motive to make this work. Sincere members have a motive to make this work. Look around...over 400 members now with 40% of GIM2's logged-on active user count. The center is holding. Repeat. The center is holding. The handful here who have been desperately trying to destabilize this forum have FAILED and just can't get critical mass of real dissent going.

Gold-Silver.US lives. Deal with it...lol.

[Book]

Seriously though... this belongs to JQP, and HE is the one who dictates how it is used, not me - not the other mods - not the users. True, a forum is made up of individual members and THEY make the community - but I feel the need to remind some of the socialist bitches on this forum of one fact:

Freedom of the Press is limited to those who own one.


Agreed. That's the bottom line. Anyone here who does not understand this reality is naive or a fool.

JQP has a motive to make this work. Sincere members have a motive to make this work. Look around...over 400 members now with 40% of GIM2's logged-on active user count. The center is holding. Repeat. The center is holding. The handful here who have been desperately trying to destabilize this forum have FAILED and just can't get critical mass of real dissent going.

Gold-Silver.US lives. Deal with it...lol.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQLlUBLCqRs

[Ponce]

I don't know what is going on..........all I har is buzzzzzz buzzzz buzzzzzzzzz, but you all know me, I say what I want to say and to hell with everything else......

"Anyone has over you only the control that you let them have over you".

And if you get kicked out or banned, as they call it, so friking what... "Id rather talk freely for ten minutes than to be shut up for life"

That's why many of you lurk in the shadows while I shine like the sun...

Where the lies takes many words the truth takes very few.

Tell you this much, Gaillo has his gun out and is in the war path.......be ready.

[Horn]

That's why many of you lurk in the shadows while I shine like the sun...



Ohly chit man, Ponce went double Platinum ovenight...

382 posts!!!

[Ponce]

What are you talking about ???

[Horn]

What are you talking about ???


You've been elected Union Mob Boss by default.

[Ponce]

I really don't kow what you are talking about, but is ok........I guess.

[FiftySense]

This place has been up for what, a week? And we are already starting unions to counterbalance the power of the mods? I think i've seen enough of this garbage and hope the forum starts getting productive threads about topics other than the administration and that other forum that i've already forgotten about.

An inch is given and a mile is taken. You should be thankful that someone is willing to take the time to moderate here. If you don't understand the purpose of moderation, go to a place where one doesn't exist. Post about something that the hive doesn't agree to and have your "online persona" ripped to shreds. Boundaries exist to form definition. May the Union of Freedom Loving Posters go proclaim their freedom on some other doorstep. I'm tired of hearing it. So are others.

[dysgenic]

It's really not that tough to ignore threads that you aren't interested in. If you feel as you claim to, why not go post a compelling thread that will draw people's attention away from threads like these? BTW there are some good threads in the main forum and there are more coming.




This place has been up for what, a week? And we are already starting unions to counterbalance the power of the mods? I think i've seen enough of this garbage and hope the forum starts getting productive threads about topics other than the administration and that other forum that i've already forgotten about.

An inch is given and a mile is taken. You should be thankful that someone is willing to take the time to moderate here. If you don't understand the purpose of moderation, go to a place where one doesn't exist. Post about something that the hive doesn't agree to and have your "online persona" ripped to shreds. Boundaries exist to form definition. May the Union of Freedom Loving Posters go proclaim their freedom on some other doorstep. I'm tired of hearing it. So are others.

[Horn]

Just gonna contribute to my fellow union members with a helpful link.

Non-union members will not be allowed to use this, or bookmark it. ::)

http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=recent

[Ponce]

Carefull Mr. Sense, a "Union Mob Boss" is looking at you........

What the he means by that? betas

[Horn]

hehehehehe


Josey, is this some sort of a joke?

I know, I know everything is serious with you, no need to explain...

[FiftySense]

Isn't there a Sub Forum called "Board Communications" which the Freedom loving posters of America keep forgetting about? Not sure why I should have to filter through these types of threads here. Of course I could create a new one, but it would be sandwiched by more "I want my candy bar right now" threads which keep spawning faster than zombies in a George Romero movie.

[dysgenic]

It must be tough to be you, esse.




Isn't there a Sub Forum called "Board Communications" which the Freedom loving posters of America keep forgetting about? Not sure why I should have to filter through these types of threads here. Of course I could create a new one, but it would be sandwiched by more "I want my candy bar right now" threads which keep spawning faster than zombies in a George Romero movie.

[Gaillo]

Isn't there a Sub Forum called "Board Communications" which the Freedom loving posters of America keep forgetting about? Not sure why I should have to filter through these types of threads here. Of course I could create a new one, but it would be sandwiched by more "I want my candy bar right now" threads which keep spawning faster than zombies in a George Romero movie.


My first thought when seeing this thread was to move it to "Board Communications", but I'm leaving it here for now because of 2 reasons:

(1) Everyone on the forum should have a chance to see this, and most people on the forum spend time in General Discussion.

(2) Moving the thread would give some members here cause to cry "censorship", despite the notable lack of such a thing that this forum has experienced so far!

No... I'm leaving it here, for now, and letting the community weigh in on this issue.

[FiftySense]

See, now you're disappointing me Gaillo. ;D And I may just have to join the Union now that you have taken a decision which does not mirror my sentiments to my exact qualifications :'( Now if you'll excuse me.. I need to go pout.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZHveWFvqM

[FiftySense]

Carefull Mr. Sense, a "Union Mob Boss" is looking at you........



I won't say anything if you won't Ponce.

[Horn]

See, now you're disappointing me Gaillo. ;D And I may just have to join the Union now that you have taken a decision which does not mirror my sentiments to my exact qualifications :'( Now if you'll excuse me.. I need to go pout.


Shhhh, you cain't talk direct ta mangement like dat, fifty.

Ju gotsta go thru da Ponce man foist...

[Gaillo]

See, now you're disappointing me Gaillo. ;D And I may just have to join the Union now that you have taken a decision which does not mirror my sentiments to my exact qualifications :'( Now if you'll excuse me.. I need to go pout.


Shhhh, you cain't talk direct ta mangement like dat, fifty.

Ju gotsta go thru da Ponce man foist...


Why not? It's not like this is GIM2 or anything! Ve do tings a bit diverently avound here, ya? ;D

[Saul Mine]

I am a union of one member. If something offends me I leave the area and don't return. FWIW, I have left a lot more forums because of the members than because of the mods or the owner.

Right now I'm just waiting for the members to settle down so I can see if this forum will be socially acceptable. If we go on carping about GIM and accusing the mods of stuff, I'll find a new place to hang out.

[Book]

This place has been up for what, a week? And we are already starting unions to counterbalance the power of the mods? I think i've seen enough of this garbage and hope the forum starts getting productive threads about topics other than the administration and that other forum that i've already forgotten about.

An inch is given and a mile is taken. You should be thankful that someone is willing to take the time to moderate here. If you don't understand the purpose of moderation, go to a place where one doesn't exist. Post about something that the hive doesn't agree to and have your "online persona" ripped to shreds. Boundaries exist to form definition. May the Union of Freedom Loving Posters go proclaim their freedom on some other doorstep. I'm tired of hearing it. So are others.

http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/electionvote.gif

Agreed. Looks like Josey is prepping to run for President of the Student Government Council where naive kids think this is a "democracy" when in reality this is a private forum owned and administered by JQP. These silly kids soon learn that they have absolutely no power but can "vote" on the Varsity Team uniform colors and stage ceremonial Student Government Council Meetings and Elections. They were a joke in High School and they are a joke here...lol.

:D

[dysgenic]

I'm bowing out of this thread. Important message to follow later today.

[Ponce]

GAILLO = This forum is someone Else's house, if you don't like it please feel free to leave, or start your own site.
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Answers like this one is the one that pisses me off........instead of throwing water into the fire to put it out Gaillo is throwing gasoline into the fire.

He could have used a more tactfully way of saying that.

He forgets that this is neither his house and he is only the cleaning lady....when we become a member then this site ALSO BECOMES OUT HOUSE.

Think about it..........

[Ash_Williams]

An inch is given and a mile is taken. You should be thankful that someone is willing to take the time to moderate here. If you don't understand the purpose of moderation, go to a place where one doesn't exist. Post about something that the hive doesn't agree to and have your "online persona" ripped to shreds. Boundaries exist to form definition. May the Union of Freedom Loving Posters go proclaim their freedom on some other doorstep. I'm tired of hearing it. So are others.

Actually I belong to a forum where the only thing the mod does is delete spammers and other advertisers and those who post personal info about others. No other rules. It still works. It's a different environment though, you have to be on your toes to defend you position and also quick with comebacks to the personal insults since the members will jump on any weak poster like a pack of hyenas no matter what their position.

That being said, if this turns into a banning free-for-all, many of us will just leave and start a new forum. The real GIM was started that way, this place was started that way, and the next place will be started that way.

It's just a shame there's no more continents out in the real world where we can do a similar move and start a new nation.

[Ponce]

Mr. Williams........about your signature.

I for one would........ "Rather be banned than silenced"

[Ash_Williams]

Ponce it used to be (for many years on GIM) "I'd rather be rich than stupid" which was a Jack Handy quote I found funny but I thought in light of recent events this would be more appropriate.

[Ponce]

Well Mr. Williams.........because I only went to the 10 th grade and I did pretty good in life I did this one.......

"I'd rather be dumn and rich than educated and poor"... Ponce

[Josey]

Actually I belong to a forum where the only thing the mod does is delete spammers and other advertisers and those who post personal info about others. No other rules. It still works. It's a different environment though, you have to be on your toes to defend you position and also quick with comebacks to the personal insults since the members will jump on any weak poster like a pack of hyenas no matter what their position.

That being said, if this turns into a banning free-for-all, many of us will just leave and start a new forum. The real GIM was started that way, this place was started that way, and the next place will be started that way.

It's just a shame there's no more continents out in the real world where we can do a similar move and start a new nation.


Smite me/ Karma me according to my next post.

[Josey]

This is just another Mile Stone Marker, along with a few others. Not too many as to confuse the Freedom lovers with the haters. But from the start of this community, I have only posted positive toward GSUS and in my own small way tried to help guide the Mods into the direction I feel most posters including myself are looking for in a forum and have yet to find.

It was clear the members wanted to vote for the government of the forum…DENIED!
The Members also made it clear they were interested in the 3 golden rules…DENIED!
The members wanted open Government here (no bans, deletions or editing)…. ?…Some would say this also has been DENIED!

My post were in favor of something great, want this to be the owners home only. That’s perfectly fine by me, My post were nothing more than what our forefathers laid out for this country. I am a freedom lover as they were, Don’t want that sort of system here. Again fine by me.

But a year from now, I will bump these post up. Maybe then most will see themselves in a different light. As for me I know I posted the truth and wisdom that is hundreds of years old. Hopefully my postings came off as faithful and sincere, rather than a hater of GSUS. Because that isn’t the truth!

The foundation has about hardened here, you people have made your choice. So don’t complain later, The Mods and owner are clear in the direction of appointed leadership. I suggest we all enjoy it as much as one can, and if the tyranny gets to be too much and you find yourself tired of begging Management for a member to be unbanned or for your post to remain and not be closed/deleted. Remember my posting, Remember the foundation of truth and justice & go make it happen, for the Union of Freedom Loving people will always be faithful even if it had to start off with 8 people and 4 of them were bought with an once of silver LOL….Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gun powder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the gun powder treason should ever be forgot.

Community Members should not be afraid of their Moderators. Moderators should be afraid of their Members….This is what I tried to install, Nothing more.



I HAVE SPOKEN!

[Book]

But a year from now, I will bump these post up.


I always admire a guy who has plans in the future Gold-Silver.US and expresses that kind of commitment.

:)

[Horn]

I would like to remind all Union Members the main reason for posting on a Gold & Silver forum.

No matter how much disrespect may be shown, one must remember that you are speaking with a "like" minded person on the other end.I too am guilty of forgetting this many a time, and wonder why certain people would make particular statements with their association to this forum.

It takes a certain type of mental mind set to appreciate the core values of precious metals and the use of them (in standard) to temper a society with vapid appetites.

And then, we have those who are only involved for personal gain...

If we apply this analogy in approach to Non-Union members there are only two sides to this "coin", and one which can be manipulated to land Heads Up. ;D

Thank you for letting me mysteriously ramble at you the main sales jargon used for manipulating the converts into the Union's Assembly.

[Book]

I yield my five minutes to Brother Horn pursuant to Article 51 chapter 7 subsection 29 paragraph 714b of our Statutes and By-Laws of the International Union of Freedom Loving Posters so that he may continue.

:)

[mamboni]

A Union implies member obligations and loyalty. Obligations and loyalty are soft tyrannies on personal liberty.