Holy Crap, Check out these eruptions on the sun

[General of Darkness]

Wow.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/ojfbpncm.jpeg

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/eiisdrqt.jpeg

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/mibsbtst.jpeg

[Ares]

Get ready for an Earthquake.

[Awoke]

It is truely amazing.

[uranian]

there have been quite a number of comets hitting the sun of late. there's a vid of the latest pics from SOHO here (http://soho.esac.esa.int/data/LATEST/current_c2.mpg). the magnetosphere looks kinda messy (http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html) too, so i tend to agree with ares, some likelihood of yet another big quake within the next 2 or 3 days.

[ruprick]

This is great for night time AM radio long distance listening as well as shortwave listening/broadcasting. We are at the 11 year solar cycle sun spot activity low - and this will greatly inprove conditions - these solar flares and sun spots energize the our ionosphere - causing radio signals to bounce long distances.

[uranian]

interesting that NASA have just launched (February) a new spacecraft to observe the Sun, the Solar Dynamics Observatory (http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/mission/spacecraft.php), with particular reference to studying Sol's magnetic field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a1qjxYN2v0

[iOWNme]

Very cool pics..

The great Orb of day, a massive hydrogen fireball, is as beautiful as it is sinister.

[old steel]

Hope it's not aimed in our direction but one of these days ...

[Gaillo]

One of the most interesting conspiracy theories I've ever read on the internet was discussed recently on GIM1. It concerns a NASA communications-room guy who set up tele-conferences between the NASA bigwigs and other .gov agencies, or something similar to that (I don't remember all the details of his job). He posted that he was leaving NASA based on information he learned about the sun, and some kind of particle cloud or gas cloud that the solar system was moving into. He said it would cause solar erruptions that would pretty much destroy most of the electronics on Earth that were not heavily shielded, and he was concerned enough to buy a ranch place and move there with his family to prep and wait it out. It was over on godlikeproductions.com, but I've lost the link since I read it.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and maybe have a link? These sun photos fit that theory pretty well... he said it would happen in the early part of this year if I remember correctly.

[Book]

http://reliableanswers.com/img/raking_leaves_sm.jpg

Nevermind about raking those leaves Timmy!

:)

[Ares]

One of the most interesting conspiracy theories I've ever read on the internet was discussed recently on GIM1. It concerns a NASA communications-room guy who set up tele-conferences between the NASA bigwigs and other .gov agencies, or something similar to that (I don't remember all the details of his job). He posted that he was leaving NASA based on information he learned about the sun, and some kind of particle cloud or gas cloud that the solar system was moving into. He said it would cause solar erruptions that would pretty much destroy most of the electronics on Earth that were not heavily shielded, and he was concerned enough to buy a ranch place and move there with his family to prep and wait it out. It was over on godlikeproductions.com, but I've lost the link since I read it.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and maybe have a link? These sun photos fit that theory pretty well... he said it would happen in the early part of this year if I remember correctly.


Yeah I remember that discussion. I believe this is the link you are looking for.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message970474/pg1

[Gaillo]

One of the most interesting conspiracy theories I've ever read on the internet was discussed recently on GIM1. It concerns a NASA communications-room guy who set up tele-conferences between the NASA bigwigs and other .gov agencies, or something similar to that (I don't remember all the details of his job). He posted that he was leaving NASA based on information he learned about the sun, and some kind of particle cloud or gas cloud that the solar system was moving into. He said it would cause solar erruptions that would pretty much destroy most of the electronics on Earth that were not heavily shielded, and he was concerned enough to buy a ranch place and move there with his family to prep and wait it out. It was over on godlikeproductions.com, but I've lost the link since I read it.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and maybe have a link? These sun photos fit that theory pretty well... he said it would happen in the early part of this year if I remember correctly.


Yeah I remember that discussion. I believe this is the link you are looking for.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message970474/pg1


Ares,
The discussion on GIM was STARTED about the "spheres" (the link you posted above) - but then someone posted a thread over on godlikeproductions.com to a DIFFERENT thread (or was it a different page in THAT thread? I just don't remember...) about the NASA guy.

Any help? This is really starting to jog my memory now... the theory was absolutely FASCINATING, and it all seemed VERY plausible to me! :imskerd:

[oldmansmith]

Gaillo, I don't have a link but I read a book last year (lent by a friend) by a Russian scientist who says that we are passing through a highly charged part of the milky way Galaxy, and that solar flares should rise to a great peak around (you guessed it) 2012. Expect all kinds of EMP shit and the grid going down.

It does explain "global warming" since we are passing through a highly charged area and this in turn will increase the sun's output. That would also help explain why Mars and some of the moons of Jupiter/Saturn are warming (due to carbon dioxide tailpipe emissions I'm sure).

Not saying I take it as gospel but it did make sense. An increase in CO2 by ten or even 100 parts per million never did.

[Horn]

One of the biggest prominences in years erupted from the sun's northwestern limb today. The massive plasma-filled structure rose up and burst during a ~2 hour period around 0900 UT.

http://www.spaceweather.com/

My theory, the Sun's output as low as it has been recently, the corona is being stripped away.

0 to nill sunspots again.

[Horn]

Aurora voices...? :imskerd:

http://www.solarcycle24.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRNqMWhoacM


Geomagnetic Storm / Aurora Opening - A decent aurora opening took place Sunday evening on 6 meters. This was due to a southward tilting Bz that was in negative territory all day long and a small CME impact. The K-Index did reach Geomagnetic Storm levels, but has quickly subsided.

Click on the link below to view a video of myself working Michel VE2XK in grid FN07. Note the heavy Aurora distortion in Michels voice. Also in the video is Greg N8CJK who is located in northern Michigan.

[keehah]

No earth bound space weather alerts yet: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SWN/index.html

I guess the eruption is not headed our way.

Gailo, this reminds me of our GIM1 Solar UFO thread: http://www.oneplanetonelife.com/thecoming.htm
The GLP thread you are asking about is: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1005905/pg1
Here is a newer thread on the topic: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1023724/pg1

Reading the original thread, IMO the sun may have always behaved like this (earth bound effects peaking at 11 year solar max) and recent concerns are more of the 'holy sh*t now we can really see what has always been happening, and the fact that our communications systems are much more vunerable to what has always been happening (other than the recent quite period).

However, while the long recent low does suggest that the next cycle will be quieter than normal, it could be more active than normal. That is the recent lack of sunspots means the energy of the sun has been constant, in terms of the 11 year cycle, does this mean it 'wound up' or 'wound down'?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/arch09/090909polarity.htm

The secondary current [causing sunspots -keehah] will only exist when the magnitude of the linking magnetic field is growing or shrinking...

Regardless of the direction of the main driving current coming into the Sun, the eleven-year reversal of the magnetic loops can be explained by transformer action. If the main magnetic field that induces the surface currents is growing in strength, the surface current will point in one direction. If the main magnetic field starts to weaken in intensity, the secondary (surface) current will reverse direction. Consequently the magnetic polarity of the loops will also reverse. Notice that this mechanism does not require the main solar driving current itself to reverse direction, only to vary in amplitude. It also does not depend on the direction of the primary current.

Perhaps only time will tell.

[uranian]

"summary" (http://www.oneplanetonelife.com/thecoming.htm)of at least one glper's thread on the local fluff (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/23dec_voyager/) plasma cloud incoming and its impacts. basic idea as i understand is that given the thunderbolts background, an electromagnetic star, the sun, is being affected by a localised cloud of EM, the fluff (plasma cloud), and the impact could be to make the sun much more active...plasma skies, electric phenomenon in the skies (norway spiral?, keehah knows more about z pinches i think than i do), the constant old rock carvings of spirals in the skies.

[Gaillo]

...
The GLP thread you are asking about is: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1005905/pg1
Here is a newer thread on the topic: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1023724/pg1
...


Yes... that's the one. Especially the 2nd thread you posted, it has a synopsis of the posts from the first thread, in post #2. Chilling stuff, if it's real! :o

Thanks for remembering and posting that!

[Golden]

I've been waiting for this thread to shine! :sun: Thanks to all for sharing.

[AndreaGail]

i think i know what you are talking about gaillo

iirc this was discussed in my polar shift thread and someone (i believe keehah) had linked to a 90+ page thread on god like productions revolving around similar conspiracy theories about the sun

i've always had an eerie feeling regarding the monumental push for everything to go digital whether it be medical records, books, smart grids, onstar, etc. not only can they monitor us, but an emp, the sun, or something else they can do a present day burning of alexandria

or then again maybe im just a luddite :sun:



One of the most interesting conspiracy theories I've ever read on the internet was discussed recently on GIM1. It concerns a NASA communications-room guy who set up tele-conferences between the NASA bigwigs and other .gov agencies, or something similar to that (I don't remember all the details of his job). He posted that he was leaving NASA based on information he learned about the sun, and some kind of particle cloud or gas cloud that the solar system was moving into. He said it would cause solar erruptions that would pretty much destroy most of the electronics on Earth that were not heavily shielded, and he was concerned enough to buy a ranch place and move there with his family to prep and wait it out. It was over on godlikeproductions.com, but I've lost the link since I read it.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and maybe have a link? These sun photos fit that theory pretty well... he said it would happen in the early part of this year if I remember correctly.

[uranian]

there's evidence (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/10/MNGFIBN6PO1.DTL)for a 62 million year cycle of mass extinctions. national geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/070420-extinctions_2.html)article linking that with the solar system's passage through the galaxy, goes round like a sine wave so at time is less protected by the denser, central portions of the milky way from EM from the centre of this galaxy, and from EM clouds/electric currents running through intergalactic space. there's speculation that cosmic rays (more EM) change DNA, as the mass extinction events occur simultaneously with explosions of genetic change...lots of species appear suddenly, in not agreeable ways to darwinian theory, immediately after these extinction events. lends weight to the idea that sudden change in evolutionary progress is the norm, rather than gradual change.

(note that i'm not suggesting that we're on the edge of a mass extinction, more that there's evidence that EM fields affect life on Earth quite profoundly sometimes, and further afield no doubt ;)

[EE_]

Imagine the horror if a series of major coronal mass ejections hurled directly at earth.
No more video surveillance, no more drones, no more google, or "I"pads, pods, phones. No more digital fiat, no more banks, or tracking of every dollar you spend. Wars would cease. No more Jewish controlled media.
No more FOX news. No more big government, no more Wall Street.
The earth would be a much less populated place.
Survivors would have to do things the old fashioned way.
Life would have to start over and go through a new industrial age.
Streets and roads would be free to travel again.
Might even have another muscle car era?
People would have to get together with friends and neighbors for entertainment and to trade goods and services.

It would be devastating!

[General of Darkness]

Imagine the horror if a series of major coronal mass ejections hurled directly at earth.
No more video surveillance, no more drones, no more google, or "I"pads, pods, phones. No more digital fiat, no more banks, or tracking of every dollar you spend. Wars would cease. No more Jewish controlled media.
No more FOX news. No more big government, no more Wall Street.
The earth would be a much less populated place.
Survivors would have to do things the old fashioned way.
Life would have to start over and go through a new industrial age.
Streets and roads would be free to travel again.
Might even have another muscle car era?
People would have to get together with friends and neighbors for entertainment and to trade goods and services.

It would be devastating!


And minorities would be just awesome. LMAO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2pRnBgeBU

[Horn]

Astro Bob blog: A Z-lightful evening

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/164938/group/homepage/


The zodiacal light extends upward Saturday night to touch the Pleiades cluster and beyond. Orion is at left. Details: 16mm lens at f/2.8, ISO 1600 and 30-second time exposure. Photo: Bob King

I looked up this past Saturday night at the end of twilight and faced one of the best zodiacal light cones I've ever had the pleasure to see. The next week and a half will be the last time this spring for a good look at this expanse of glowing comet dust visible in the west 1 1/2 - 2 hours after sunset.

The zodiacal light is centered on the path the sun, moon and planets take through the zodiac constellations. The zodiac basically defines the flat plane of the solar system where all the planets revolve and many comets as well. Comets shed dust from their tails when they swing through the inner solar system. The dust motes are suspended in space and illuminated by sunlight creating a delicate cone-shaped glow visible in a dark, rural sky towards the end of evening twilight. Because the zodiac is still steeply inclined to the horizon in April, the zodiacal light stands high enough about the horizon haze for good visibility. By May the path is lower, and while the zodiacal light is still present, much of it is lost to atmospheric extinction. June, July and August are even worse. Not until fall mornings will the light be seen with relative ease again.

I just happened to be on a hill at a dark location Saturday and was totally taken with the scene. I imagine that flat, wide-open spaces like North Dakota, the light must be even more remarkable. To find the zodiacal light, get to the darkest sky you can. As dusk gives way to night, look for a large, wedge-shaped glow about as bright as the Milky Way standing at an angle to the western horizon with the Seven Sisters Cluster near its top. You might at first think it's a "light dome" from a distant town but its shape and direction of tilt distinguish it from manmade glows.

[keehah]

http://spaceweather.com/ April 14, 2010

NORTHERN LIGHTS IN THE USA: On Saturday, April 11th, a coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth's magnetic field. The impact caused a G2-class geomagnetic storm and, for the first time this year, ignited auroras over the continental United States. "The lights were bright enough to produce a reflection from the surface of Lake Superior," says photographer Shawn Malone, who recorded the scene from a beach in Marquette, Michigan: http://spaceweather.com/aurora/images2010/12apr10/Shawn-Malone2_strip.jpg

Northern Lights were also spotted in Maine, Vermont, Wisonsin and Minnesota. Mostly the lights were dim and required a photographic exposure of some tens of seconds for full effect. Nevertheless, they were there.

"Lower 48" sightings of auroras are a sign: The deep solar minimum of 2008-2009 has come to an end and a new solar cycle is gaining strength.

[Horn]

"Lower 48" sightings of auroras are a sign: The deep solar minimum of 2008-2009 has come to an end and a new solar cycle is gaining strength.



Expect dim year for aurora



FAIRBANKS - Aurora watchers likely will be disappointed in 2010.

The Geophysical Institute at the University of Alaska Fairbanks predicts that this year's aurora activity will be minimal, and much the same as it has been for more than a year.

Aurora forecaster Charles Deehr said this is the least-active period ever experienced. The decrease in activity is attributed to slow sunspot activity.


http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/010410/sta_542689575.shtml

[SeekYeFirst]

Good find of the zodiacal light, Horn. Nice picture the guy got.
Have any of you looked at the old newspaper reports of the 1859 solar storm. Northern lights so bright that people were reporting houses on fire in the next town. IIRC, the recently placed telegraph wires did cause some fires and they had enough charge for telegraphers to signal from east to west coast for about six hours without using outside electricity. The next big peak is supposed to be 2013, right? Strangely close to the end of 2012.

[Neuro]

Get ready for an Earthquake.
Good call today we had a 7.1 earthquake in western China killing at least 400!

[Osaka]

http://www.youtube.com/v/voAR07ezBts&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0

<br><br>
http://www.youtube.com/v/NaCCG7QkM_c&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0

[uranian]

reference to snakes and reptiles, ya say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zka8vqp66w

[Brent]

Imagine the horror if a series of major coronal mass ejections hurled directly at earth.
No more video surveillance, no more drones, no more google, or "I"pads, pods, phones. No more digital fiat, no more banks, or tracking of every dollar you spend. Wars would cease. No more Jewish controlled media.
No more FOX news. No more big government, no more Wall Street.
The earth would be a much less populated place.
Survivors would have to do things the old fashioned way.
Life would have to start over and go through a new industrial age.
Streets and roads would be free to travel again.
Might even have another muscle car era?
People would have to get together with friends and neighbors for entertainment and to trade goods and services.

It would be devastating!


Maybe I'm nuts but that sounds great to me. ;D

[Horn]

Good find of the zodiacal light, Horn. Nice picture the guy got.
Have any of you looked at the old newspaper reports of the 1859 solar storm. Northern lights so bright that people were reporting houses on fire in the next town. IIRC, the recently placed telegraph wires did cause some fires and they had enough charge for telegraphers to signal from east to west coast for about six hours without using outside electricity. The next big peak is supposed to be 2013, right? Strangely close to the end of 2012.


Prepare to freeze and burn. :imskerd: :morph: :sun:




The lingering cool temperatures being experience by much of North America has weather forecasters wondering if we are entering a new Little Ice Age�a reference to the prolonged period of cold weather that afflicted the world for centuries and didn't end until just prior to the American Civil War. From historical records, scientists have found a strong correlation between low sunspot activity and a cooling climate. At the end of May, an international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA released a new prediction for the next solar cycle: Solar Cycle 24 will be one of the weakest in recent memory. Are we about to start a new Little Ice Age?

According to the report, Solar Cycle 24 will peak in May 2013 with a sunspot count well below average. “If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78,� says panel chairman Doug Biesecker of the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center. This does not mean that we won't feel the results of renewed solar storm activity here on Earth.

“Even a below-average cycle is capable of producing severe space weather,� points out Biesecker. “The great geomagnetic storm of 1859, for instance, occurred during a solar cycle of about the same size we’re predicting for 2013.� A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a storm similar to the 1859 disturbance�known as the “Carrington Event� after astronomer Richard Carrington who observed the associated solar flare�occurred today, it could cause $1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to ten years for complete recovery. Reportedly, the 1859 storm electrified transmission cables, set fires in telegraph offices, and produced Northern Lights so bright that people could read newspapers by their glow.

http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/little-ice-age-ii-sequel

[MNeagle]

So if we survive 2012, we get to look forward to this?

[goldfingerer]

Of all the conspiracy theories i've ever read, this is the most troubling.

The reason being is that there is literally rock solid science going back all the way to the early 1980's that backs this up.

the solar system is entering an area of the milky way that NOBODY really understands. All NASA knows is that it IS going to affect the earth in many dramatic and damaging ways. Combine that with the natural rise in Solar activity and you have a recipe for planet changing effects. We are already experiencing an uptick in powerful earthquakes and other natural forces. This energy cloud affects us in ways we don't understand. Science is being rewritten as we speak. All behind closed doors.

Our world is going to change very soon.

It will happen before the end of the year.

I would tell anyone that is interested. Be prepared to live without electricity for extended periods of time, very soon. And by that I mean at least a year, possibly many years. Once we have a solar flare that destroys telecommunications and other power grid hardware, it is a cascading effect. Research the solar flare of 1859 and then mulitply that many times over and think about how much futher our electronics infrastructure had advanced since then.

you get the picture.

[Horn]

I guess, I'll rebuild that old thread on GIM a little bit here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L9kQjKSPhE

[Vendico]

wow check out today's activity

Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation

http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie/2010/test_6.20100414.avi

They have daily archives here: http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie.html

[keehah]

http://www.solarstorms.org/SRefStorms.html

This is a growing collection of major space weather events in history. This page contains a brief paragraph of the main effects of each solar storm, and a link to an archive of articles written about each storm that you can find in a variety of newspapers and magazines during the time of the storm. These accounts are a rich source of information about how each storm affected various technologies, and captivated the general public. Currently [August 15 , 2005], the archive includes 306 articles.
And don't forget about what comets may do.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060206chicagofire.htm

In 1883, twelve years after the Chicago fire, Ignatius Donnelly published a widely read book, Ragnarok: the Rain of Fire and Gravel. Though the book dealt primarily with the evidence for cometary disasters in ancient times, Donnelly suggested that the Chicago fire provided a small glimpse of the terror experienced by our earlier ancestors. “There is reason to believe that the present generation has passed through the gaseous prolongation of a comet's tail, and that hundreds of human beings lost their lives�.

Reflecting on the simultaneous events around Lake Michigan on the evening of October 8, 1871, Donnelly posed the underlying mystery: “At that hour, half past nine o'clock in the evening, at apparently the same moment, at points hundreds of kilometers apart, in three different states, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Illinois, fires of the most peculiar and devastating kind broke out...
More: GLP (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message230469/pg1)

[uranian]

sun's just had another wee burp in the past few hours. not as big as the first.

[Awoke]

This thread has morphed into something quite interesting. I will have to check out this theory that you guys keep talking about.

Not that there is anything we can do to control the forces of nature, the cosmos or Gods will, but it sounds interesting to read about!

[Vendico]

wow check out today's activity

Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation

http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie/2010/test_6.20100414.avi

They have daily archives here: http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie.html


Interesting how this is on the 14th of April, the same day Iceland's volcano erupted again.

[keehah]

Some great recent images/movies from the SDO!
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/21apr_firstlight/

At a press conference today in Washington DC, researchers unveiled "First Light" images from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, a space telescope designed to study the sun.
http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2010/04/21/fulldiskmulticolor_pixels764.jpg/image_756

A full-disk multiwavelength extreme ultraviolet image of the sun taken by SDO on March 30, 2010. False colors trace different gas temperatures. Reds are relatively cool (~60,000 K); blues and greens are hotter (> 1,000,000 K).
Credit: SDO/AIA
The gods were angry the day the GIM announcement was made. 8)

[Vendico]

How relatively difficult would it be to have shielded sensors, orbiting the sun in snyc with the earth's orbit of the sun, that detect incoming the electromagnetic waves? Sort of like an early warning detection system.

[Horn]

wow check out today's activity

Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation

http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie/2010/test_6.20100414.avi

They have daily archives here: http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie.html


Interesting how this is on the 14th of April, the same day Iceland's volcano erupted again.



That was some heavy rift.

[keehah]

How relatively difficult would it be to have shielded sensors, orbiting the sun in snyc with the earth's orbit of the sun, that detect incoming the electromagnetic waves? Sort of like an early warning detection system.



They do. 2/03/98 ACE Satellite Now In Place Between Earth and Sun (http://media.caltech.edu/press_releases/11853)
And they do have early warning solar weather predictions,
However the rotation of the sun brings the incoming heavier weather in from an angle.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SWN/index.html
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/alerts/alerts_timeline.html

[Vendico]

How relatively difficult would it be to have shielded sensors, orbiting the sun in snyc with the earth's orbit of the sun, that detect incoming the electromagnetic waves? Sort of like an early warning detection system.



They do. 2/03/98 ACE Satellite Now In Place Between Earth and Sun (http://media.caltech.edu/press_releases/11853)
And they do have early warning solar weather predictions,
However the rotation of the sun brings the incoming heavier weather in from an angle.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SWN/index.html
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/alerts/alerts_timeline.html



Check out their last alert: Latest Alert: Apr 14 2335 UTC ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 4

[Spectrism]

Some great recent images/movies from the SDO!
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/21apr_firstlight/

At a press conference today in Washington DC, researchers unveiled "First Light" images from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, a space telescope designed to study the sun.
http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2010/04/21/fulldiskmulticolor_pixels764.jpg/image_756

A full-disk multiwavelength extreme ultraviolet image of the sun taken by SDO on March 30, 2010. False colors trace different gas temperatures. Reds are relatively cool (~60,000 K); blues and greens are hotter (> 1,000,000 K).
Credit: SDO/AIA
The gods were angry the day the GIM announcement was made. 8)


Thanks for the pic.... beautiful shot.

[keehah]

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/27apr10_plasmarain/

April 27, 2010: Just last week, scientists working with NASA's new Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) released the most astonishing movies of the sun anyone had ever seen. Now, they're doing it again.

"SDO has just observed a massive eruption on the sun�one of the biggest in years," says Lika Guhathakurta of NASA headquarters in Washington DC. "The footage is not only dramatic, but also could solve a longstanding mystery of solar physics."

Karel Schrijver of Lockheed Martin's Solar and Astrophysics Lab is leading the analysis. "We can see a billion tons of magnetized plasma blasting into space while debris from the explosion falls back onto the sun surface. These may be our best data yet."...

The movie, recorded on April 19th, spans four hours of actual time and more than 100,000 km of linear space. "It's huge," says Schrijver. Indeed, the entire planet Earth could fit between the plasma streamers with room to spare.

Astronomers have seen eruptions like this before, but rarely so large and never in such fluid detail. As science team member Alan Title of Lockheed Martin pointed out at last week's press conference, "no other telescope comes close to the combined spatial, temporal and spectral resolution of SDO."

Schrijver says his favorite part of the movie is the coronal rain. "Blobs of plasma are falling back to the surface of the sun, making bright splashes where they hit," he explains.

[Horn]

I wonder how many years it's going to take for mainstream science to get back on it's feet again whenst it finally figures how the Sun actually functions. :D

[keehah]

http://www.articlesbase.com/nature-articles/plasma-rain-or-purple-rain-2251818.html
_________
Wishin' on a falling star
Waitin' for the early train.
Sorry boy, but I've been hit by purple rain.
Aw, come on, joe, you can always
Change your name.
Thanks a lot, son, just the same.
_________
Honey, I know, I know, I know times are changin'
It's time we all reach out for something new, that means you too
You say you want a leader, but you can't seem to make up your mind
And I think you better close it and let me guide you to the purple rain

[uranian]

http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2010/05/03/ahead/cor2/512/20100503_085424_d7c2A.jpg

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/c3/512/latest.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2010/03may10/cme_c2_big.gif?PHPSESSID=p17rkq82f64ggop4pj8eo5p80 4

[Neuro]

Will it trigger an earthquake or perhaps Katla in a couple of days?

[uranian]

Will it trigger an earthquake or perhaps Katla in a couple of days?


my thoughts too. i've not been paying attention to katla, but there've been a few GLP threads suggesting that the action is gradually building up around eyja again, lava visible from the webcams again apparently. given that last time we had a big CME, we had a quake within a couple of days (despite the CME being directed away from Earth), you've got to wonder if we're in for another. at the rate things are going, let's just hope it doesn't make the situation in the gulf of mexico any worse by setting off something around there.

[uranian]

and again:

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2010/05may10/cme_c2_big.gif

[MNeagle]

Don't know what it means, but sure looks scary of its implications! Wowzer!

[osoab]

[quote=uranian ]
and again:

Do you know where is Earth located in the video?

[uranian]

seems to translate to decent-sized shaking within 48 hours. we had a 6.5 quake in indonesia (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010vxbk.php) a couple of days after the last CME, so probably similar again within the next 36 hours.

[osoab]

seems to translate to decent-sized shaking within 48 hours. we had a 6.5 quake in indonesia (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010vxbk.php) a couple of days after the last CME, so probably similar again within the next 36 hours.


Magnitude 7.2
Date-Time Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 05:59:42 UTC
Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 12:59:42 PM at epicenter

Time Stamp on video starts 5/5/09 @ 21:30

So from the time stamp on the video we had almost an 80 hour delay.
If the video is UTC time.


Magnitude 6.1
Date-Time Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 03:22:11 UTC
Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 11:22:11 AM at epicenter

This one was in Indonesia too. About 55 Hours or so after the CME.

Didn't that volcano you can't pronounce start erupting a little more fervently too?

[keehah]

Sun's constant size surprises scientists (http://www.physorg.com/news192988158.html)
May 13, 2010
(PhysOrg.com) -- A group of astronomers led by the University of Hawaii's Dr. Jeff Kuhn has found that in recent times the sun's size has been remarkably constant. Its diameter has changed by less than one part in a million over the last 12 years.

“This constancy is baffling, given the violence of the changes we see every day on the sun's surface and the fluctuations that take place over an 11-year solar cycle,� commented Kuhn, the associate director of the University of Hawaii Institute for Astronomy (IfA) who is responsible for Haleakala Observatories.

Kuhn's work is part of worldwide efforts to understand the influence of the sun on Earth's climate. “We can't predict the climate on Earth until we understand these changes on the sun,� he said.

Kuhn and his colleagues used NASA's long-lived Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) satellite to monitor the sun's diameter, and they will soon repeat the experiment with much greater accuracy using NASA's new Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), which was launched on February 11.

According to Kuhn, the ultimate solution to this puzzle will depend on probing the smallest observable scales of the solar surface using the Advanced Technology Solar Telescope (ATST), which is scheduled for completion on Haleakala in 2017.

“To be able to predict what the sun will do, we need both the big picture and the details,� said Kuhn. “Just as powerful hurricanes on Earth start as a gentle breeze, the analogs of terrestrial storms on the sun start as small kinks in the sun's magnetic field.�

More information: Scientific article: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010IAUS..264...21E

[Horn]

The Sun remains Blank - The visible solar disk has been void of sunspots for the 6th day in a row. The solar flux which is looking like an ongoing did slide below 70 earlier in the week.

[Horn]

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/02/livingston-and-penn-paper-sunspots-may-vanish-by-2015/



From the “I hope to God they are flat wrong department�, here is the abstract of a short paper on recent solar trends by William Livingston and Matthew Penn of the National Solar Observatory in Tucson. It was sent to me by reader Mike Ward.

http://solarcycle24com.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=855&page=15


Assuming that any set of observations made by Dr. Livingston can be described by a Normal or Gaussian distribution, as the distribution of observations approaches the 1500 Gauss threshold, below which sunspots can no longer be observed, the unobservable sunspots within the lower tail of the distribution can no longer be used to used to calculate the mean of the distribution. Depending on now the mean was calculated, this could create the impression that the onset of the L&P Event was slowing down when it fact it is not.

[Libertarian_Guard]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2evffxg.jpg

[Horn]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2evffxg.jpg





Perhaps I didn't introduce my statement well enough.

It appears as though the southern hemisphere of the Sun has entered a new phase that was not previously recorded in this manner. The records dating back some 100yrs. or more. Not nearly as magnetically charged in sunspots.

[General of Darkness]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2evffxg.jpg





Perhaps I didn't introduce my statement well enough.

It appears as though the southern hemisphere of the Sun has entered a new phase that was not previously recorded in this manner. The records dating back some 100yrs. or more. Not nearly as magnetically charged in sunspots.


So it's going to get colder? I wonder if additional taxes would help?

[Horn]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2evffxg.jpg



Perhaps I didn't introduce my statement well enough.

It appears as though the southern hemisphere of the Sun has entered a new phase that was not previously recorded in this manner. The records dating back some 100yrs. or more. Not nearly as magnetically charged in sunspots.


So it's going to get colder? I wonder if additional taxes would help?


May want to get started now building a huge demagnetize r encompassing the entire Earth.

For if & when it reflexes to normal level the Earth may be attached to the Sun.. :o 8)

[Libertarian_Guard]

Nothing is more free than the imagination of man; and though it
cannot exceed that original stock of ideas furnished by the internal and
external senses, it has unlimited power of mixing, compounding,
separating, and dividing these ideas, in all the varieties of fiction
and vision. It can feign a train of events, with all the appearance of
reality, ascribe to them a particular time and place, conceive them as
existent, and paint them out to itself with every circumstance, that
belongs to any historical fact, which it believes with the greatest
certainty. Wherein, therefore, consists the difference between such a
fiction and belief? It lies not merely in any peculiar idea, which is
annexed to such a conception as commands our assent, and which is
wanting to every known fiction. For as the mind has authority over all
its ideas, it could voluntarily annex this particular idea to any
fiction, and consequently be able to believe whatever it pleases;
contrary to what we find by daily experience. We can, in our conception,
join the head of a man to the body of a horse; but it is not in our
power to believe that such an animal has ever really existed.

It follows, therefore, that the difference between _fiction_ and
_belief_ lies in some sentiment or feeling, which is annexed to the
latter, not to the former, and which depends not on the will, nor can be
commanded at pleasure. It must be excited by nature, like all other
sentiments; and must arise from the particular situation, in which the
mind is placed at any particular juncture. Whenever any object is
presented to the memory or senses, it immediately, by the force of
custom, carries the imagination to conceive that object, which is
usually conjoined to it; and this conception is attended with a feeling
or sentiment, different from the loose reveries of the fancy. In this
consists the whole nature of belief. For as there is no matter of fact
which we believe so firmly that we cannot conceive the contrary, there
would be no difference between the conception assented to and that which
is rejected, were it not for some sentiment which distinguishes the one
from the other.

Were we to attempt a _definition_ of this sentiment, we should,
perhaps, find it a very difficult, if not an impossible task; in the
same manner as if we should endeavour to define the feeling of cold or
passion of anger, to a creature who never had any experience of these
sentiments. Belief is the true and proper name of this feeling; and no
one is ever at a loss to know the meaning of that term; because every
man is every moment conscious of the sentiment represented by it. It may
not, however, be improper to attempt a _description_ of this sentiment;
in hopes we may, by that means, arrive at some analogies, which may
afford a more perfect explication of it. I say, then, that belief is
nothing but a more vivid, lively, forcible, firm, steady conception of
an object, than what the imagination alone is ever able to attain. This
variety of terms, which may seem so unphilosophical, is intended only to
express that act of the mind, which renders realities, or what is taken
for such, more present to us than fictions, causes them to weigh more in
the thought, and gives them a superior influence on the passions and
imagination. Provided we agree about the thing, it is needless to
dispute about the terms. The imagination has the command over all its
ideas, and can join and mix and vary them, in all the ways possible. It
may conceive fictitious objects with all the circumstances of place and
time.

http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/world/readfile?fk_files=30637&pageno=24

[Horn]

Don't Let Sunspots or Headlines Make You Panic


Oct. 13 2008 (Bloomberg) -- With the world's attention turned to the financial crisis, a strange celestial occurrence went virtually unnoticed. For more than 200 days this year, the sun was devoid of sunspots. That historic run, the longest since 1954, ended last week when a small spot appeared and then disappeared.

That financial events and freakish sunspot behavior are coinciding will doubtlessly encourage nonsensical speculation by astrologers.

For the thoughtful, the coincidence provides an interesting parallel to circumstances in the late-1800s that ignited an economic theory based on sunspots. While the early work ended up being a dead end, it led to frontier theoretical work a century later that provides exactly the right framework for thinking about the philosophical implications of the current crisis.

The fact is, we are not, as a piece in the Washington Post recently suggested, at ``The End of American Capitalism.'' Rather, we are in the middle of what economic theorists refer to as ``sunspot equilibrium,'' or a state in which a completely random variable is driving the economy. Such a situation was long thought to be a rare possibility in a free market.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=a5KUGp59X7og

[Horn]

MAGNETIC MEGA-FILAMENT: For the fourth day in a row, a dark magnetic filament is bisecting the sun's northeastern quadrant. Measuring more than 100,000 km from end to end, it is literally the biggest thing on the face of our star. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory has a good view of the structure; click on the image to set the scene in motion:


The 2-hour time lapse movie recorded around 0600 UT on May 20th shows relatively cool plasma flowing through the filament's magnetic walls. Long, active filaments like this have been known to grow unstable and erupt, producing a type of spotless flare called a "Hyder flare." If that happens now, Earth would likely feel some effects from the blast because the filament is turning to face our planet. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Movie link

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2010/20may10/filament_aia193_0600ut.mpg?PHPSESSID=q7vkek2brdcpk el6pm3obdvfu3

[Horn]

:whistle

[Neuro]

The sun is cracking! :boom

[EE_]

Now would be a good time for a giantic Hyder flare ejection directed directly at our planet!
It would put a serious crimp in their plans for WWIII, the police state, space wars, digital fiat debasement and the one world order.
I'm ready to go back in time.

[Neuro]

Now would be a good time for a giantic Hyder flare ejection directed directly at our planet!
It would put a serious crimp in their plans for WWIII, the police state, space wars, digital fiat debasement and the one world order.
I'm ready to go back in time.


I haven't thought about it like that, but I agree, it couldn't happen at a better time, plus I have more PM's than I ever had before...

[keehah]

Holy Crap , Check out the Hyder flare ejection thread eruption on the sun.

Nothing here (5/23/2010 3:59 PM):
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/alerts/index.html

More here:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1074444/pg1
Some comment:

Massive Solar Event Headed for Earth! (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1074444/pg24)

May 23 1AM EDT
Reuters
Stocks|Bonds|Global Markets

Goddard Space Center Wash D.C.-In a hastily called press conference the head of the Goddard Space Center announced that a massive solar event was headed for Earth. It started he said, from the collapse of a major solar filament. The size of this thing is unprecedented since we have been keeping records. We have been in touch with the White House and are keeping them informed of the severity of the situation. We had hoped that the collapse would happen when it was facing away from Earth. It was always speculated that our luck would run out one day, now it seems it has. As far as damage to our planet he said that they were running computer simulations to obtain more data. At the very least it will knock out our orbiting satellites and bring down the power grid. Until they had more data he was not advising anyone to take any precautions as the event was still two days away.

When we contacted the White House for a statement, a spokesman said they had hoped to keep this quiet a little longer to prevent panic. But a conspiracy website called Godlike Productions released the information early. We are glad that they did, it will give us more time to prepare. We owe a lot of f*cking thanks to all the f*cking Rocket Surgeons on that f*cking website.

Copyright-Reuters
_____________________________

Just sharing some quotes from a nicely updated web page, much better than a few short years ago when magnet was treated like magic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection

Impact of a CME

When the ejection reaches the Earth as an ICME (Interplanetary CME), it may disrupt the Earth's magnetosphere, compressing it on the day side and extending the night-side magnetic tail. When the magnetosphere reconnects on the nightside, it creates trillions of watts of power which is directed back toward the Earth's upper atmosphere. This process can cause particularly strong aurora also known as the Northern Lights, or aurora borealis (in the Northern Hemisphere), and the Southern Lights, or aurora australis (in the Southern Hemisphere). CME events, along with solar flares, can disrupt radio transmissions, cause power outages (blackouts), and cause damage to satellites and electrical transmission lines....

Physical properties

A typical CME has a three part structure consisting of a cavity of low electron density, a dense core (the prominence, which appears as a bright region on coronagraph images) embedded in this cavity, and a bright leading edge. It should be noted, however, that many CMEs are missing one of these elements, or even all three.

Most CMEs originate from active regions (groupings of sunspots associated with frequent flares). These regions have closed magnetic field lines, where the magnetic field strength is large enough to allow the containment of the plasma; the CME must open these field lines at least partially to escape from the sun....

Because the energy of CMEs is so high, it is unlikely that their energy could be directly driven by emerging magnetic fields in the photosphere (although this is still a possibility). Therefore, most models of CMEs assume that the energy is stored up in the coronal magnetic field over a long period of time and then suddenly released by some instability or a loss of equilibrium in the field. There is still no consensus on which of these release mechanisms is correct, and observations are not currently able to constrain these models very well....

Interplanetary CMEs

CMEs typically reach Earth one to five days after the eruption from the Sun. During their propagation, CMEs interact with the solar wind and the Interplanetary Magnetic Field (IMF). As a consequence, slow CMEs are accelerated toward the speed of the solar wind and fast CMEs are decelerated toward the speed of the solar wind. Fast CMEs (faster than about 500 km s−1) eventually drive a shock. This happens when the speed of the CME in the frame moving with the solar wind is faster than the local fast magnetosonic speed. Such shocks have been observed directly by coronagraphs in the corona and are related to type II radio bursts. They are thought to form sometimes as low as 2 Rs (solar radii). They are also closely linked with the acceleration of Solar Energetic Particles.

[Neuro]

Now would be a good time for a giantic Hyder flare ejection directed directly at our planet!
It would put a serious crimp in their plans for WWIII, the police state, space wars, digital fiat debasement and the one world order.
I'm ready to go back in time.


Seems like your wish may come true, in the next couple of days! :boom :rocket_hor :sun:

[Neuro]

http://<object width="400" height="400"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=11980631&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;sh ow_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fu llscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=11980631&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;sh ow_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fu llscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="400"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11980631">SDO AIA 19.3 nm May 23rd, Filament coronal mass ejection</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1991924">superkuh superkuh</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[Horn]

Wow cool shot, Nero.

Or would that be a hot shot?

Nothing showing as threatening?


Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA,
Space Weather Prediction Center and the U.S. Air Force.
Updated 2010 May 23 2201 UTC

Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity
SDF Number 143 Issued at 2200Z on 23 May 2010

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 22/2100Z
to 23/2100Z: Solar activity was very low. The STEREO COR2 imagery
observed a CME around 23/1809Z. This CME was correlated with GOES
x-ray images originating from an area along a filament channel
located between N24W05 to N01W23. Associated with the CME was a
long duration B1 x-ray flare at 23/1801Z. Region 1072 (S15W09)
continues to grow in white light areal coverage and sunspot count
and has produced two low-level B-class flares during the period.
The region maintained a beta magnetic configuration.

IB. Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be very
low. There is a chance for a C-class flare, and a slight chance for
a M-class event, from Region 1072.

IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 22/2100Z to 23/2100Z:
The geomagnetic field was quiet. The solar wind speed continued to
average around 370 km/s through the period.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be at quiet levels for the next three days (24-26 May).

[keehah]

http://spaceweather.com/

WEAK IMPACT: A coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth's magnetic field during the early hours of May 28th, but the impact was weak and did not trigger strong geomagnetic activity. The chances for auroras tonight are subsiding.

Evening of the 28th the map shows right now aurora activity down below the 49th.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/gif/pmapN.gif

[keehah]

http://spaceweather.com/

[COMPLEX ERUPTION ON THE SUN: On August 1st around 0855 UT, Earth orbiting satellites detected a C3-class solar flare. The origin of the blast was sunspot 1092. At about the same time, an enormous magnetic filament stretching across the sun's northern hemisphere erupted. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the action:

http://spaceweather.com/swpod2010/01aug10/c3events_strip.jpg
Click to launch a movie (EUV 304 Ã…) (http://sdowww.lmsal.com/sdomedia/ssw/ssw_client/data/ssw_service_100801_043733_25581681/www/ssw_cutout_20100801_070003_aia_304__20100801_07000 2_m.mpg)

The timing of these events suggest they are connected, and a review of SDO movies strengthens that conclusion. Despite the ~400,000 km distance between them, the sunspot and filament seem to erupt together; they are probably connected by long-range magnetic fields. In this movie (171 Ã…), a shadowy shock wave (a "solar tsunami") can be seen emerging from the flare site and rippling across the northern hemisphere into the filament's eruption zone. That may have helped propel the filament into space.

In short, we have just witnessed a complex global eruption involving almost the entire Earth-facing side of the sun.

A coronal mass ejection (CME) produced by the event is heading directly for Earth: SOHO movie. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras when it arrives on or about August 3rd.

I checked and it appears the space weather warning site has not yet been updated to predict August 3 (last update line stops just before the end of August 2. http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/alerts/warnings_timeline.html

'C-class flares are small with few noticeable consequences here on Earth.'

[Horn]

The timing of these events suggest they are connected,

Hmmm, could it be telekinesis...:whistle

Yeah this could be the start of a whole new intermittent cycle here, sounds positively electrifying...!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4n0la_k-DU

[keehah]

Bump!

Astronauts forced to shut down part of International Space Station after cooling system fails (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1299580/Astronauts-forced-shut-Space-Station-cooling-fails.html#ixzz0vUNDihqq)

The crew members, who were asleep at the time, were roused by alarms about 8 pm on Saturday night and immediately set to work powering down equipment to prevent the sole remaining cooling loop from overloading.

The three Russian cosmonauts and three NASA astronauts aboard the station are not in any danger, NASA's flight controllers said.

But the shutdown means that many systems aboard the station are now without working backups.

Without the cooling system in place, temperatures on the ISS's Sun-facing side can soar to 121C and as low as minus 157C on the dark side.

‘It's pretty clear that we're going to want to have a course of action to take as quickly as possible. This is not something we want to linger over,’ said NASA spokesman Rob Navias at the Johnson Space Center in Houston.

After an attempt to revive the cooling loop failed, NASA scrambled teams to begin choreographing a pair of spacewalks later this week to make repairs.

[EE_]

Imagine a solar storm so strong it wipes out Wall Street, banking, surveillance satellites and all digital fiats!
What a disaster it would be...for the elite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_TzIUlaQok&feature=player_embedded

[MNeagle]

O.K., I've read Aug. 3rd. any time frame offered??

[Steal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30TGJP7hrQ&annotation_id=annotation_586188&feature=iv#t=5m27s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVluo-u_xQk&feature=related

[Horn]

Without the cooling system in place, temperatures on the ISS's Sun-facing side can soar to 121C and as low as minus 157C on the dark side.

Hard to imagine why we haven't been able to tap into that energy yet with such differentials.

Where's Ben Franklin with his extra long kite string?

[keehah]

http://spaceweather.com/

INCOMING CME: The solar eruption of August 7th [2010] might affect Earth after all. Newly-arriving data from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) show a CME heading our way with a significant Earth-directed component.

The impact of this lopsided CME probably won't trigger a major geomagnetic storm---but the SOHO data show it could be bigger than expected. High latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras when the cloud arrives probably on August 10th.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/spacewalk-fails-to-replace-pump-that-keeps-space-station-cooled-2047313.html

Monday, 9 August 2010

Faced with a rare and potentially critical maintenance crisis aboard the International Space Station, directors at Nasa's mission control are expected to wait until Wednesday before allowing two astronauts to resume efforts to replace a cooling unit that stopped working more than a week ago.

The delay leaves the station in an unusually vulnerable position with only one of its two cooling loops working.

[Horn]

Where's that nicto-whatever linky again that gave you "realtime" projections of the Earth's mag silhouette?

Wasn't it out of Japan? :sun:

[keehah]

Are you talking about this (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/minister-louis-farrakhan-explains-the-star-of-david/msg90226/#msg90226)? As linked it was another's post.

These are the only automatically updated models I could find: http://ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime.php

[Horn]

Are you talking about this (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/minister-louis-farrakhan-explains-the-star-of-david/msg90226/#msg90226)? As linked it was another's post.

These are the only automatically updated models I could find: http://ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime.php


What happened? I saw something on the news while stopping on a long voyage, but then had to pull away...

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/home.html

[keehah]

Judging by the spike in bow pressure at 04:30UT Aug 11 we are hitting some turbulence.

But no auroras low enough for well populated areas

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html

[keehah]

http://www.spaceweather.com/

The annual Perseid meteor shower is underway. According to the International Meteor Organization, dark-sky observers are now counting more than 35 Perseids per hour, including many fireballs. Be alert for Perseids from 10 pm on Thursday, Aug. 12th, until sunrise on Friday, Aug. 13th. The darkest hours before dawn are usually best.

[keehah]

http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm

SPACE WEATHER ADVISORY BULLETIN #10- 2
(2010 August 14 1704 UTC)

**** FIRST SOLAR RADIATION STORM OF SOLAR CYCLE 24 ****

On Saturday, August 14, 2010 a small solar flare erupted on the Sun at about 6am EDT. Associated with this flare was a coronal mass ejection (CME) that was partially directed towards the Earth. Also associated with this event was a S1 or minor solar radiation storm on the NOAA Space Weather Scales http: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales/. The only impacts expected for a solar radiation storm of this magnitude are minor impacts to HF radio communications in the polar regions. However, this is the first solar radiation storm of Solar Cycle 24 and the first solar radiation storm since December of 2006.

At this time, the solar radiation storm has subsided below threshold levels. However, oscillation around this threshold is possible for the next several hours. Subsequent significant activity is not expected but there may be some level of geomagnetic storming on or around August 17th and 18th from the coronal mass ejection associated with this event. Initial observations of the coronal mass ejection direction and velocity do not indicate a high likelihood of significant geomagnetic storming but the Space Weather Prediction Center will continue to monitor this event as it unfolds

Solar Radiation Storm background (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast14jul_2m/):

"Energetic protons from the flare arrived at Earth about 15 minutes after the eruption," says Gary Heckman, a space weather forecaster at the NOAA Space Environment Center. "This triggered a category S3 radiation storm."...

According to NOAA space weather prediction scales, an S3 storm can cause the following effects on satellites: single-event upsets, noise in imaging systems, permanent damage to exposed components/detectors, and decrease of solar panel currents. It can also expose air travelers at high latitudes to low levels of radiation, the equivalent of a brief chest x-ray.

[Horn]

Take a look @ the JuSa cycle charts.


Re: Theory on solar cycle - close to finish?
« Reply #88 on Aug 23, 2010, 3:59am »

a look at where we are...

The JuSa-cycle does not favor strong sunspot activity from here. Similar cycles are SC6 and SC13. So SC24 is a cycle out of phase with JuSa, which produces weak SCs.

http://solarcycle24com.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=324&page=6

[Horn]

Is the Sun Running Out of Juice?

http://news.discovery.com/space/is-the-sun-running-out-of-juice.html

[keehah]

As above so above above it seems. Thanks to thunderbolts forum for these links.

This is what happens when 'junk dust' (usually from the sun) bow shocks earth's magnetosheath:
http://cse.taylor.edu/~physics/seps-1/papera/fig-1.gif

This is what happens when 'junk' dust hits the sun's heliosheath:

http://unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2010/sep/ds30sun.jpg
http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2010/sep/ds30sun.cfm
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/download/id/63918/thumbnail/x_large/name/rc_ribbon.jpg
Animation:
http://vimeo.com/15436595

PhysOrg: Knot in the ribbon at the edge of the solar system 'unties' (Update) (http://www.physorg.com/news205069123.html)
September 30, 2010 by J. Kelly Beatty

When NASA launched the Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) on October 19, 2008, space physicists held their collective breath for never-before-seen views of a collision zone far beyond the planets, roughly 10 billion miles away. That’s where the solar wind, an outward rush of charged particles and magnetic fields continuously spewed by the Sun, runs into the flow of particles and fields that permeates interstellar space in our neighborhood of the Milky Way galaxy.

No spacecraft had ever imaged the collision zone, which occurs in a region known as the heliosheath, because it emits no light. But the two detectors on IBEX are designed to “see” what the human eye cannot. The interaction of the solar wind and interstellar medium creates energetic neutral atoms of hydrogen, called ENAs, that zip away from the heliosheath in all directions. Some of these atoms pass near Earth, where IBEX records their arrival direction and energy. As the spacecraft slowly spins, the detectors gradually build up pictures of the ENAs as they arrive from all over the sky.

Mission scientists got their first surprise six months after launch, once the spacecraft had scanned enough overlapping strips of sky to create a complete 360° map. Instead of recording a relatively even distribution all the way around, as expected, IBEX found that the counts of ENAs — and thus the strength of the interaction in the heliosheath — varied dramatically from place to place. The detectors even discovered a long, enhanced “ribbon,” accentuated by an especially intense hotspot or “knot,” arcing across the sky.

Now scientists have finished assembling a second complete sweep around the sky, and IBEX has again delivered an unexpected result: the map has changed significantly. Overall, the intensity of ENAs has dropped 10% to 15%, and the hotspot has diminished and spread out along the ribbon. Details of these findings appear in the September 27th issue of Journal of Geophysical Research (Space Physics).

One of the clear features visible in the IBEX maps is an apparent knot in the ribbon. Scientists were anxious to see how this structure would change with time. The second map showed that the knot in the ribbon somehow spread out. It is as if the knot in the ribbon was literally untangled over only 6 months! This visualization shows a close-up of the ribbon (green and red) superimposed on the stars and constellations in the nighttime sky. The animation begins by looking toward the nose of the heliosphere and then pans up and left to reveal the knot. The twisted structure superimposed on the map is an artist's conception of the tangled up ribbon. The animation then shows this structure untangling as we fade into the second map of the heliosphere. Credit: IBEX Science Team/Goddard Scientific Visualization Studio/ESA

“We thought we might detect small changes occurring gradually throughout the Sun’s 11-year-long activity cycle, but not over just 6 months,” notes David McComas (Southwest Research Institute), principal investigator for the IBEX mission and the paper’s lead author. “These observations show that the interaction of the Sun with the interstellar medium is far more dynamic and variable than anyone envisioned.”

In the past, space physicists had little notion of what to expect along the boundary where the Sun’s own magnetic bubble, the heliosphere, meets interstellar space. Even though the solar wind travels outward at roughly a million miles per hour, it still takes about a year to reach the heliosphere’s edge. Also, the encounter zone within the heliosheath is believed to be several billion miles thick (roughly Pluto’s distance from the Sun). Finally, the ENAs take another six months to many years to complete the return trip back to Earth, depending on their direction and energy.

With ENAs starting out from such a wide range of distances and traveling back toward Earth at different speeds, IBEX mission scientists had expected that any highs and lows in intensity arising within the heliosheath would be hopelessly smeared out in the spacecraft’s all-sky maps. So they’re elated by the variations and changes seen so far by IBEX. These early results hint that the solar wind and the interstellar flow might be interacting in a thinner layer than many researchers had imagined possible...

If IBEX remains healthy, and if the team gets approval to continue well past its planned two-year mission, then the changes it’s seeing in the distant heliosheath should become more dramatic as solar activity ramps up later in this decade.

[Horn]

How weird, Stevie was right. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO2-kIqsGL4

[keehah]

How long has this solar minimum gone on for now? Three years.

Tie a yellow ribbon 'round the old oak tree
It's been three long years
Do you still want me?
If I don't see a ribbon round the old oak tree
I'll stay on the bus
Forget about us
Put the blame on me
If I don't see a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree

Bus driver, please look for me
'Cause I couldn't bear to see what I might see
I'm really still in prison, and my love she holds the key
A simple yellow ribbon's what I need to set me free

Now the whole damn bus is cheering
And I can't believe I see
A hundred yellow ribbons 'round the old oak tree
I'm comin' home

A New 3-D Map of the Interstellar Gas Within 300 Parsecs from the Sun (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100209152225.htm)

http://httphttp://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2010/02/100209152225.jpg http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2010/02/100209152225.jpg

The white area surrounding the Sun (i.e., at the center of the map) corresponds to a very low-density area of neutral gas, known as the Local Cavity. It is about 80 parsecs in radius in most directions and is surrounded by a highly fragmented "wall" of dense neutral gas. The various gaps in the wall are termed "interstellar tunnels" and represent rarefied pathways into other surrounding interstellar cavities. Maps of the distribution of CaII have never been made before, and they reveal that the Local Cavity contains numerous filamentary structures of partially ionized gas that appear to form in a honeycomb-like pattern of small interstellar cells.

[Horn]

How long has this solar minimum gone on for now? Three years.


Well lets see, the minimum started somewhere around the same time as the financial crisis & recession mid 2008.

So, I'm thinking the maximum should be somewhere around 2016.

If my calculations are correct, my computer should be a popsicle by then.

The good news is many scientific charts are starting look as hopeful as the government's.

[keehah]

Sun spots confirm that 'double dip' recession talk (2009 recovery) was BS. 8)

http://www.financialcyclesweekly.com/public/530.cfm?sd=2

The fact that the last big solar minimum occurred in 1913 is significant because 1913 was a watershed year in financial history-it marked the beginning of the Income Tax in the U.S., and it was also the year in which the Federal Reserve Bank was founded. It's thus quite appropriate that taxes and extreme actions by the Fed are both areas of focus in the current financial news.

What's even more interesting, however, is the fact that Dr. Tony Phillips, the NASA scientist who published a report on the current solar minimum on April 1, 2009, used language that specifically invoked comparisons between the sunspot cycle and the stock market. "The sunspot cycle is behaving a little like the stock market," he wrote. "Just when you think it has hit bottom, it goes even lower."

[Horn]

I'm doing a little random statistics, and finding some correlations to dollar spot of silver.

[Neuro]

I'm doing a little random statistics, and finding some correlations to dollar spot of silver.





Yeah?

[keehah]

I thought this was cute:

http://ranprieur.com/index.html

Sunspots could soon disappear for decades. (http://www.physorg.com/news203746768.html) I will repeat what I've said before. If the sun just happens to cool off at the right time, and to the right degree, to counteract human-caused climate change, I will just go ahead and assume that we are all living in a simulation.

[Dogman]

http://www.spaceweather.com/

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2010/16oct10/euvfilament.jpg?PHPSESSID=k7g60d3kt7ce6rqraqr77v11 f6


GREAT FILAMENT: A vast filament of magnetism is cutting across the sun's southern hemisphere today. Run a finger along the golden-brown line in this extreme UV image from the Solar Dynamics Observatory and your digit will have traveled more than 400,000 km:

A bright 'hot spot' just north of the filament's midpoint is UV radiation from sunspot 1112. The proximity is no coincidence; the filament appears to be rooted in the sunspot below. If the sunspot flares, it could cause the entire structure to erupt.

This active region merits watching and, indeed, it is big enough to see through backyard solar telescopes. If you have one, take a look!

[Horn]

Looks just like a plasma ball that's been dialed down a notch, cool stuff.

When that thing snaps the earth may get back into its proper axial rotation?

Jesus that thing is looking crazy big, and centered at us.... :imskerd:

[Dogman]

Here is a closer view.

[Horn]

In that first picture, it seems to even loop up towards the northern hemisphere in horseshoe fashion...

See the big U pattern?

[Dogman]

In that first picture, it seems to even loop up towards the northern hemisphere in horseshoe fashion...

See the big U pattern?


Go to the web site and click on the picture=new window, click on small picture=big one, click on any edge and a blow up picture of that edge will appear= Cool.

[Horn]

In that first picture, it seems to even loop up towards the northern hemisphere in horseshoe fashion...

See the big U pattern?


Go to the web site and click on the picture=new window, click on small picture=big one, click on any edge and a blow up picture of that edge will appear= Cool.


That dark spot in the center is a huge hole in the cortex, earth facing.

Or solar wind speed should be up in our direction.

That one there looks like it should be at the north & south poles of the Sun, & preferably not facing us...

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2010/16oct10/coronalhole_sdo_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=k2vsb46aip6bdn kb6m3309hn46

[madfranks]

Here is a closer view.




For reference, the earth is about yea big compared to the sun:

[Dogman]

In that first picture, it seems to even loop up towards the northern hemisphere in horseshoe fashion...

See the big U pattern?


Go to the web site and click on the picture=new window, click on small picture=big one, click on any edge and a blow up picture of that edge will appear= Cool.


That dark spot in the center is a huge hole in the cortex, earth facing.

Or solar wind speed should be up in our direction.

That one there looks like it should be at the north & south poles of the Sun, & preferably not facing us...

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2010/16oct10/coronalhole_sdo_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=k2vsb46aip6bdn kb6m3309hn46


If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.

[Dogman]

Here is a closer view.




For reference, the earth is about yea big compared to the sun:


Yea the dot at the end of the horizontal bar.

I think the old rule of thumb is you can fit 1.3 million earths into the volume of the sun.

[EE_]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?

[Horn]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?


EE_, the latest in sun worshipper's,, joins the group... ;D

[Dogman]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?


Depends on points of view and if given a choice I would try to take the one with the less loss of life and chaos.
And ending life as we know it for myself if given the choice , is a road not taken.

[EE_]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?


Depends on points of view and if given a choice I would try to take the one with the less loss of life and chaos.
And ending life as we know it for myself if given the choice , is a road not taken.

I would prefer the solar scenario to the alternative, a slow collapse of society and world war...which is where we are ultimately heading.
I do understand how so many want to get out of this world simi-intact, leaving the demise of this nation to the next generation. It's human nature, I guess?

[Horn]

OOLAH TECH, OOLAH TECH, give me the sacred lochnar...

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/heavymetal13.jpg

[kregener]

Godlikeproductions....LMAO!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt3zdoLO-pM

[Dogman]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?


Depends on points of view and if given a choice I would try to take the one with the less loss of life and chaos.
And ending life as we know it for myself if given the choice , is a road not taken.

I would prefer the solar scenario to the alternative, a slow collapse of society and world war...which is where we are ultimately heading.
I do understand how so many want to get out of this world simi-intact, leaving the demise of this nation to the next generation. It's human nature, I guess?
Bingo. In some ways. Part of me wants to bear witness, I am getting old enough and know my years left are not that many now. I would hate to pass along all of this crap to other gens.

I have seen war coming for years now all of the tells are in place and it is not "if" but when. Some reading this may survive if things went full blown nuke instead of using emp's alone. If you are away from major targets and up wind.

I live in the middle of the e-tex oil field which is a target + Shreveport and barksdale AFB is 75 or so miles from me to the east and that for dam sure is a target. The the Dallas fort worth metro 117 miles .

I feel I'm sitting in the 10-x ring of a target so when it happens it will happen! In a morbid way before I die to see the shtf big and witness it would be kinda cool something to add to my lifetime experience folder.
Just hate to see the kids go through this (less than 40) now or in the future, because depending on the how when and what! There maybe no future for anybody other than the new stone age. (sorta)

[Horn]

Bingo. In some ways. Part of me wants to bear witness, I am getting old enough and know my years left are not that many now. I would hate to pass along all of this crap to other gens.


Great, I'm 41 & will be held responsible... if there truly is a god, may he let his light shine down from heaven.

I would hate the human race to live in shame, as I'm sure it could not bear the strain & would take the gun to its own head...

[Neuro]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?

Go sun GO! Loss of human life 90%? Small long term price to pay IMO... We all will die anyway! Blast the wickedness off the planet. Certainly I would like my offspring to survive, thus I prep, but there could also be fates worse than being killed in the aftereffects of a solar storm, wiping out life as we know it...

[Horn]

If that sucker did break facing us, things here WOULD probably get very interesting and I think not in a good way, but if not maybe northern and southern lights seen at the equator?.


Yes very interesting indeed... it could cause the Zionist wars to cease, shut down digital fiat printing, could wipe out all digital currency, shut down all government surveillance/tracking of citizens, the Zio-media could go silent, and people may even have to depend on each other to grow food and live like a community to survive. Gold and silver may be the only money?
Not in a good way?

Go sun GO! Loss of human life 90%? Small long term price to pay IMO... We all will die anyway! Blast the wickedness off the planet. Certainly I would like my offspring to survive, thus I prep, but there could also be fates worse than being killed in the aftereffects of a solar storm, wiping out life as we know it...


I thought there was evidence also that the ice ages had become shorter in duration as they progressed, and that the change was more rapid? Like 400yrs.

I dunno, just remember from some discovery channel show or something that was geared towards the global warming campaign.

They were saying that the CO2 was bad & we should stop breathing basically.

oops wrong thread, it was the maximum/minimum thread. :-X

[Neuro]

Your Horneyness (or was it your Hornets Nest). I think this may be the thread you were looking for:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/farewell-solar-minimum/

[Ares]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html

[Neuro]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html
Most probably not 'good' for anything electronic if that genormous filament ring collapses while facing earth...

[Ares]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html
Most probably not 'good' for anything electronic if that genormous filament ring collapses while facing earth...


Most definitely not, almost wonder if the ring is on the other side of the sun as well. Probably not, but would be interesting to know.

[Neuro]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html
Most probably not 'good' for anything electronic if that genormous filament ring collapses while facing earth...


Most definitely not, almost wonder if the ring is on the other side of the sun as well. Probably not, but would be interesting to know.
Who knows what is going on on the dark side of the sun... ;)

[Dogman]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html
Most probably not 'good' for anything electronic if that genormous filament ring collapses while facing earth...


Most definitely not, almost wonder if the ring is on the other side of the sun as well. Probably not, but would be interesting to know.
Who knows what is going on on the dark side of the sun... ;)


The What??:sun:



:ROFL: :ROFL:

[Neuro]

The What what?

[Horn]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html


Luckily she seems to be rotating out of view before snafu Capt'n.

Hopefully the Sun doesn't set off on a different course when she goes...

Again, she does look like something that should be at the poles, so maybe she has an inverted twin...

This is a behind capture, and the bro appears more as a V, if you can see.

And another angle of the Big Orange.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/santo3.jpg

[Dogman]

Well this is certainly interesting. Not sure what the sun is doing, but I don't think a filament ring is going to be a "good" thing.

<img src="http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/strange-filament-ring-on-the-sun-16-oct-2010.jpg"/>

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/218/366/Enormous_Ring_is_Developing_on_the_Sun.html


Luckily she seems to be rotating out of view before snafu Capt'n.

Hopefully the Sun doesn't set off on a different course when she goes...

Again, she does look like something that should be at the poles, so maybe she has an inverted twin...

This is a behind capture, and the bro appears more as a V, if you can see.

And another angle of the Big Orange.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/pictures/santo3.jpg


http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2007/15aug_mira/

A Star with a Comet's Tail

Snip/

August 15, 2007: Astronomers using a NASA space telescope, the Galaxy Evolution Explorer, have spotted an amazingly long comet-like tail behind a star streaking through space. The star, named Mira after the Latin word for "wonderful," has been a favorite of astronomers for about 400 years, yet this is the first time the tail has been seen.

Galaxy Evolution Explorer--"GALEX" for short--scanned the popular star during its ongoing survey of the entire sky in ultraviolet light. Astronomers then noticed what looked like a comet with a gargantuan tail. In fact, material blowing off Mira is forming a wake 13 light-years long, or about 20,000 times the average distance of Pluto from the sun. Nothing like this has ever been seen before around a star.


Below: Mira's comet-like tail stretches more than 13 light years. snip/

"I was shocked when I first saw this completely unexpected, humongous tail trailing behind a well-known star," says Christopher Martin of the California Institute of Technology. "It was amazing how Mira's tail echoed on vast, interstellar scales the familiar phenomena of a jet's contrail or a speedboat's turbulent wake." Martin is the principal investigator for the Galaxy Evolution Explorer, and lead author of a Nature paper appearing today to announce the discovery.


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Astronomers say Mira's tail offers a unique opportunity to study how stars like our sun die and ultimately seed new solar systems. Mira is an older star called a red giant that is losing massive amounts of surface material. As Mira hurtles along, its tail sheds carbon, oxygen and other important elements needed for new stars, planets and possibly even life to form. This tail material, visible now for the first time, has been released over the past 30,000 years.

"This is an utterly new phenomenon to us, and we are still in the process of understanding the physics involved," says co-author Mark Seibert of the Observatories of the Carnegie Institution of Washington in Pasadena. "We hope to be able to read Mira's tail like a ticker tape to learn about the star's life."

Billions of years ago, Mira was similar to our sun. Over time, it began to swell into what's called a variable red giant - a pulsating, puffed-up star that periodically grows bright enough to see with the naked eye. Mira will eventually eject all of its remaining gas into space, forming a colorful shell called a planetary nebula. The nebula will fade with time, leaving only the burnt-out core of the original star, which will then be called a white dwarf.

http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2007/08/15/15aug_mira_resources/mira1_strip.jpg

[keehah]

Billions of years ago, Mira was similar to our sun. Over time, it began to swell into what's called a variable red giant...

"This is an utterly new phenomenon to us, and we are still in the process of understanding the physics involved,"

... The nebula will fade with time, leaving only the burnt-out core of the original star, which will then be called a white dwarf.

They don't know what they are observing, but they know how it came to be and what its fate will be. ;D

[Horn]

Billions of years ago, Mira was similar to our sun. Over time, it began to swell into what's called a variable red giant...

"This is an utterly new phenomenon to us, and we are still in the process of understanding the physics involved,"

... The nebula will fade with time, leaving only the burnt-out core of the original star, which will then be called a white dwarf.

They don't know what they are observing, but they know how it came to be and what its fate will be. ;D




Like Tim Geithner, alls you have to do is know how you'd like it to be, and the numbers will just follow the sum. 8)

[Neuro]

Billions of years ago, Mira was similar to our sun. Over time, it began to swell into what's called a variable red giant...

"This is an utterly new phenomenon to us, and we are still in the process of understanding the physics involved,"

... The nebula will fade with time, leaving only the burnt-out core of the original star, which will then be called a white dwarf.

They don't know what they are observing, but they know how it came to be and what its fate will be. ;D




Like Tim Geithner, alls you have to do is know how you'd like it to be, and the numbers will just follow the
sum. 8)
Reverse science at it's best!

[keehah]

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/23oct_superstorm/

Once in a while--exactly when scientists still cannot predict--an event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass that of Mount Everest.
PysOrg:1859 solar flare, ozone depletion studied March 22, 2007 (http://www.physorg.com/news93781896.html)

Researchers led by Brian Charles Thomas of Washburn University used data on nitrate enhancements from Greenland ice cores to determine the September 1859 solar proton event released 6.5 times more energy than did the 1989 event.

Models using that energy release showed 3.5 times more ozone was destroyed during the 1859 episode than in 1989. And since ozone regulates the amount of harmful ultraviolet radiation reaching Earth, the researchers said understanding intense solar proton events will be important in predicting potential damage to the biosphere.

Canada.com: Ozone depleted by record amount over Arctic: UN (http://www.canada.com/Ozone+depleted+record+amount+over+Arctic/4562173/story.html#ixzz1IgFV9Gyj)

POSTMEDIA NEWS APRIL 5, 2011 9:38 AM

The World Meteorological Organization said Tuesday that the Arctic experienced an "ozone column loss" of about 40 per cent from the beginning of the winter to late March.

The highest ozone loss previously on record was about 30 per cent over the entire winter.

Ozone forms an atmospheric shield that protects the Earth from ultraviolet rays.

"The Arctic stratosphere continues to be vulnerable to ozone destruction caused by ozone-depleting substances linked to human activities," said Michel Jarraud, Secretary General of the UN agency, in a statement.

"The 2011 ozone loss shows that we have to remain vigilant and keep a close eye on the situation in the Arctic in the coming years."

The depletion comes despite what the UN weather organization calls "very successful" international efforts to reduce the amount of chemicals in the air that can destroy the ozone layer — following a high-profile campaign by environmental activists in the 1980s...

Even though this past Arctic winter was warmer than average at ground level, it was colder in the stratosphere than for a normal Arctic winter.

The stratosphere is the second major layer of the atmosphere, above the troposphere and below the mesosphere. It starts at about 10 kilometres in altitude and reaches up to an altitude of about 50 kilometres.

About 90 per cent of the ozone in the atmosphere is found in the stratosphere. That ozone is commonly referred to as the ozone layer. It absorbs ultraviolet light and protects life on Earth from harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun.

The Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer was signed in 1987, in a bid to reduce [ ;D ] ozone levels to pre-1980 levels. It has since been revised several times, and has been ratified by nearly 200 countries.

The accord helped phase out ozone-depleting substances — such as chlorofluorocarbons and halons.

The World Meteorological Organization said that, thanks to the accord, the ozone layer in the Arctic is expected to recover around 2025-2035.

© Copyright (c) Postmedia News

[Awoke]

POSTMEDIA NEWS APRIL 5, 2011 9:38 AM
"The Arctic stratosphere continues to be vulnerable to ozone destruction caused by ozone-depleting substances linked to human activities," said Michel Jarraud, Secretary General of the UN agency, in a statement.



Knowing that Made-made global warming is a lie and a tax grab, and knowing the origin of the UN, I have a hard time believing anything they say anymore.

[Horn]

This photo is deserving of a sunspot # 81

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/hmi_igr/512/latest.jpg

Would you like to know more?

http://www.leif.org/research/Predicting%20the%20Solar%20Cycle%20(SORCE%202010). pdf

[vacuum]

Keeping track of the sun:
http://solarimg.org/artis/

[keehah]

A very good resource page here about earth's relationship with the sun.

Earth’s Magnetic Field and Climate Variability
http://www.megakastro.gr/weather_agro/solar_modulation.htm

Good site with a long list of collected good information. The site is strong on correlation graphs including the following:

How the Earth's magnetic field is changing.

Earth's magnetic field is decreasing, norther high point over Canada is decreasing while increasing over Siberia and while temperatures increase in Canadian arctic they are decreasing in Siberia.

And also how looking at better solar measures of total output such as solar flux (rather than just sunspots for example) show solar output correlated with recent 'global warming.'

[Horn]

We could always look at weather in the late 1700's if you would like to keehah.

I mean, since that's where we're headed in Cycle 14 24, with your flux capacitor theory as displayed. :)

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/f10.gif

[Horn]

What they really needed was a measuring outpost on Jupiter.

http://www.graystonelabs.com/SolarCycle.html

[Horn]

How the Earth's magnetic field is changing.


Relationship Ionosphere & Earthquakes

http://solarimg.org/shows/SolarIMG_JPL_210411.mp3

[platinumdude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJN0hWMrugE&feature=youtu.be

This morning around 0641 UT, magnetic fields above sunspot complex 1226-1227 became unstable and erupted. The blast produced an M2-class solar flare, an S1-class radiation storm, and a massive CME. A recording of the blast from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory ranks as one of the most beautiful and dramatic movies of the SDO era.



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Satellite flybys

A METEOR SHOWER IN BROAD DAYLIGHT: The annual Arietid meteor shower peaks this week on June 7th and 8th. The Arietids are unusual because they are daytime meteors; the shower is most intense after sunrise. People who wake up early might notice a small number of Arietids during the dark hours before dawn. The real action, however, occurs in broad daylight. Tune into the meteor radar for echoes.

M-FLARE AND RADIATION STORM: This morning around 0641 UT, magnetic fields above sunspot complex 1226-1227 became unstable and erupted. The blast produced an M2-class solar flare, an S1-class radiation storm, and a massive CME. A recording of the blast from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory ranks as one of the most beautiful and dramatic movies of the SDO era:


more movies: YouTube; 5 MB mpeg; 2 MB Quicktime

A video with commentary from solar physicist C. Alex Young of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center shows material splashing back to the stellar surface. "I've never seen material released this way before," he says in the video. "It looks like someone kicked a clod of dirt in the air--an amazing, amazing event."

Coronagraphs onboard the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) are still monitoring the CME as it billows away from the sun. Watch the cloud expand. The speckles are caused by energetic charged particles hitting the camera's CCD array. This is what we mean by a "radiation storm"; the particles were accelerated by the explosion and are now peppering Earth-orbiting satellites and spacecraft like SOHO.

Although the blast was not squarely Earth-directed, it will affect our planet. The CME should deliver a glancing blow to Earth's magnetic field during the late hours of June 8th or June 9th. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras when the CME arrives.

[Horn]

Now that was truly something else. Even greater than what started this thread...Wow.

[osoab]

Looks like we a big one incoming.



http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261http://solarimg.org/artis/

[platinumdude]

It's only a C class flare.

[General of Darkness]

It's only a C class flare.

Hey most C students are the top producers. :)

[osoab]

It's only a C class flare.

So it's only a flesh wound?

[Horn]

Couple Quick vids of the Sun giving birth.

Maybe this is what made EE's sun rise north...?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14vlh_537V8&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKOMajibOIg&feature=related

[keehah]

Another flare hitting Friday morning, and a 'once every 6 years' Near Earth Object Monday!

http://www.spaceweather.com/
STORM WARNING: A fast-moving stream of solar wind is buffeting Earth's magnetic field. The combined effect of this stream [from the coronal hole] plus a CME expected to arrive on June 24th has prompted NOAA forecasters to declare a 30% to 35% chance of geomagnetic storms during the next 24 hours. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras.

ASTEROID FLYBY: Newly-discovered asteroid 2011 MD will pass only 12,000 kilometers (7,500 miles) above Earth's surface on Monday June 27 at about 9:30 a.m. EDT. NASA analysts say there is no chance the space rock will strike Earth. Nevertheless, the encounter is so close that Earth's gravity will sharply alter the asteroid's trajectory: [image]

At closest approach, 2011 MD will pass in broad daylight over the southern Atlantic Ocean near the coast of Antarctica. As the asteroid recedes from Earth, it will pass through the zone of geosynchronous satellites. The chances of a collision with a satellite or manmade space junk are extremely small, albeit not zero.

Judging from the brightness of the asteroid, it measures only 5 to 20 meters in diameter. According to JPL's Near Earth Object Program office, one would expect an object of this size to come this close to Earth about every 6 years on average. For a brief time, it will be bright enough to be seen even with a medium-sized backyard telescope.

[Serpo]

And this............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qRdT1rFi0&feature=player_embedded

story...........

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/741/724/Elenin_-_7-7_Warning.html

[keehah]

Lots of links at the OP.
I've posted the most speculative part, the end, here:

Alignment Checks SEISMIC / TECTONIC TRIGGERS:-
check forthcoming alignments of Sun, Earth & Moon - usually with Venus or Mars, but with Jupiter and maybe Saturn also.
http://www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/checkalign.html

BTW - Yes I _have_ looked a bit further ahead to 2012, as there's a transit of Venus expected then ( a closer alignment of Earth - Venus - Sun). As you might also see, there's a fairly spectacular multiple alignment later in that year, with the Sun being "pulled" (or rather having its structure changed - see below) from several directions at once.
Ray

PS - after re-reading gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2007/TM-2007-214817.pdf am beginning to realize those NASA guys have tried to make a model using "tidal gravity" on the Sun, caused by planets. So they're looking for planets which are "overhead" at the time of the flare/storm/activity. That's why their model doesn't quite match major Solar events.

Like I've said in reply on (this) List before - it can't be "gravitational" or even "tidal" (a secondary gravity effect):- a) because the values are too low- see this quote -
"'gravity' effect falls off with SQUARE (2nd power) of distance - so at 4 x distance: "gravity" effect is only 1/16th
the 'tidal' effect falls off with CUBE (3rd power) of distance - so at 4 x distance: "tidal" effect is only 1/64th
gas (repulsion) effect falls off with 5th power of distance - so at 4 x distance: "gas repulsion" effect is only 1/1024th
molecular (attraction) effect falls off with 6th power of distance - so at 4 x distance: "molecular" effect is only 1/4096th"

and
b) my own workings-out (from '94 onwards) say that the effects, both in Sun activity and the seismic ones on Earth, are caused by temporary changes in structural integrity (ie. molecular / electron-atom binding), and that these (primary) effects are probably instantaneous over arbitrary distance, solely dependent on the masses involved, and (slightly) their rotation rates.

and
c) the effects are _not_ limited (by gravity / distance) to alignments of Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Jupiter, as the NASA guys think, calling them "the major tide-producing planets".

As b) above implies, the primary effects are probably instantaneous over arbitrary distance -
i.e. that solar "super-storm" shown at checkalign.html#storm was caused by an alignment involving Saturn, not Jupiter, and happening a week before - not when the `chosen-four' planets were "overhead". That is, it took about a week for the Sun to `boil-up' in response, and for the results to get to us.
RD

[Horn]

1176

[SLV^GLD]

The What what?

You said it, not me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

[keehah]

MotherJones: Image-of-the-Week: Scary Arctic Ozone Hole (http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/10/image-week-scary-arctic-ozone-hole)

Fri Oct. 7, 2011
https://motherjones.com/files/images/arctic_ozone_hole_2011.preview.png
An unexpected ozone hole—the first of its kind—opened above the Arctic this past spring, with a whopping ozone loss of more than 80 percent 11 to 12 miles/18 to 20 kilometers above Earth. That thinning rivals the worst of Antarctica's ozone woes. We've become used to a persistent hole above Antarctica, which, despite our phase-out of CFCs, refuses to heal...

[keehah]

http://spaceweather.com/
[November 4, 2011]

POLAR BLAST: A magnetic filament curling around the sun's north pole erupted during the early hours of Nov. 5th. Material propelled by the blast is heading out of the plane of the solar system and will not impact any planet. [SDO movie]

CHANCE OF FLARES: NOAA forecasters have upgraded the chance of X-class solar flares today to 20%. The source would be AR1339, one of the biggest sunspots in many years. The active region rotated over the sun's eastern limb two days ago and now it is turning toward Earth.

The sunspot has already unleashed one X-flare on Nov. 3rd around 2027 UT. [movie]

The flare created waves of ionization in Earth's upper atmosphere, altering the normal propagation of radio waves over Europe and the Americas. In Ireland, the flare's effect was felt even after dark.

A cloud of plasma or "CME" raced away from the blast site at 1100 km/s. The CME is not heading for Earth. It is, however, heading for Mercury and Venus...

http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20111104_010000_anim.tim-den.gif

[Horn]

http://spaceweather.com/
[November 4, 2011]POLAR BLAST: A

Question, what are the little black & white dashed lines (3d IMF) a symbol of in those attachments?

[Horn]

Looks ominous, especially with the relatively cool surroundings.:-\

2nd revolution?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rpBBLS8G-fA

http://www.solarham.com/pictures/archive/nov4_2011_1339.jpg

[Neuro]

You said it, not me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
Maybe I am a bit oldfashioned but that video seemed to me to be somewhat Ghey... I could only bear to watch 2 minutes of it until I was totally disgusted, and I think my threshold is rather high...

[keehah]

Question, what are the little black & white dashed lines (3d IMF) a symbol of in those attachments?
Probably represents the modeled path of a magnetic flux tube wave guide.
A modeled path that could include those reported near light speed energy pulses between the sun and earth.

NASA (2008 )-Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/)

Several speakers at the Workshop have outlined how FTEs form: On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun), Earth's magnetic field presses against the sun's magnetic field. Approximately every eight minutes, the two fields briefly merge or "reconnect," forming a portal through which particles can flow. The portal takes the form of a magnetic cylinder about as wide as Earth. The European Space Agency's fleet of four Cluster spacecraft and NASA's five THEMIS probes have flown through and surrounded these cylinders, measuring their dimensions and sensing the particles that shoot through. "They're real," says Sibeck.
International Astronomical Union. Symposium, Eric Ronald Priest, Vinod Krishan - 1990 (http://books.google.ca/books?id=gHEUmF7Hz_oC&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=flux+tubes+between+planets+and+sun&source=bl&ots=MGg0wywtBw&sig=Fsxj2GEDN038o89uPNk5K19MGzc&hl=en&ei=3-S1TojPGsigiQKp4-HsCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Firstly, we note that a tube is a wave guide. It permits waves to propagate without spatial attenuation. Thus a tube is likely to be a good communication channel between one region of a plasma and another, perhaps providing a connection between an evergy source and an energy sink.
Also seen between planet and moon? Cassini probe sees electric link between Saturn and Enceladus (http://www.astronomy.com/~/link.aspx?_id=92bd8d9d-7937-4c3b-bf18-a9cf5ea715f8)

[Horn]

Like the Jupiter/Io connection, but it shows them spiraling away in the plane view?

1508

I need a new job, Newage world druid research scientist?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smcYYNx_OY0

[keehah]

Like the Jupiter/Io connection, but it shows them spiraling away in the plane view?

1508

I did include a question mark!

But it could be that it is the same phenomena, but that the earth is further away from our centre of orbit, outside the 'moon' zone of closed magnetic field lines?
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/IMF_2.jpg
The solar magnetic field and IMF seen along the solar equatorial plane
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/IMF.jpg
The spiral nature of the interplanetary magnetic field, seen from above, is shown by the blue arcs. Image credit: NASA
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/I/IMF.html

[Horn]

The IMF originates in regions on the Sun where the magnetic field is open – where field lines emerging from one region do not return to a conjugate region but extend virtually indefinitely into space. The polarity, or direction, of the field in the Sun's northern hemisphere is opposite that of the field in the southern hemisphere. (The polarities reverse with each solar cycle (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/solar_cycle.html).) Made it even more interesting now, with the current Sun status (weak bottom).

North/South made even more absolute with the connection...