Anyone here into Cryptoarcheology?

[Gaillo]

Anyone here into Cryptoarcheology? Mysteries of the past that mainstream academia refuses to address or downright dismisses?

You know... stuff like the REAL age of the sphinx, the curious mathematical placement of great temple complexes over the face of the globe, Great Pyramid construction and geometry, Tihuanaco and other curious sites in South America, 2,000 ton granite blocks being moved at Baalbek, perfectly machined rock artifacts from ancient Egypt, and the curious astronomical alignments of megalithic stone circles in Europe and other places? Renne-le-Chateau and the Cathars? Pole-shift and cometary impact catacalysmic theory as applied to ancient civilizations? Ancient maps that show things the creators COULD NOT have known unless they inherited the information from earlier sources? Nan Madol? China's Pyramids?
Just wondering if there are other enthusiasts here.. I LOVE that stuff! :sun:

[Saul Mine]

I like that topic, but only when actual knowledge is available. There is a flood of stories at http://www.science-frontiers.com/sfonline.htm reporting things that shouldn't be but are.

Re moving big stones: A long time ago I saw pictures of a crew moving big stones. They used tripods made of timbers with ropes and stuff and it took a lot of man power to carry the tripods from the back to the front as the stone moved along. They were moving a stone of a hundred tons or so at the speed of a slow walk. I haven't been able to find anything on that subject again. Do you have anything?

[uranian]

about stuff (http://www.sprword.com/videos/mysteriousorigins/) like the piri reis map.

[Ponce]

You got it Uranian.........or like Aztec stones that shows Dino and man together.....

I say, when the poles ice melts some more, many wonder of millions of years will be found........as to how much the government will tell us? only God knows.

[Unobtainium]

I am TOTALLY into that stuff. In fact, I visited Egypt in 1995 to see up close the marvels of ancient building science. I consider myself an expert on the Great Pyramid of Giza (if I might be allowed to suspend modesty for a moment), and have read near every book about the structure ever written. Nothing compares to an up close evaluation, however. Hence the need to see and study it in person. Even with the assistance of modern stone cutting techniques, the accuracy of the workmanship of the Great Pyramids' casing stones and pavement cannot be equaled let alone surpassed. These stones weighing 20 tones were joined along a surface area of some 60 square feet to a precision of 5 ten thousands of an inch. And we are to believe that they achieved this mind boggling accuracy using primitive copper hammers? Yea right!

[StreetsOfGold]

Anyone been to http://pyramidcode.com/ ?

[ximmy]

Fun stuff too look at and ponder indeed. The Great Pyramid has been a fav... as well as the Nazca Lines

[chad]

http://www.the-rabbits-hole.com/presentation/ancient/ancient_artifacts.htm

[Saul Mine]

http://www.the-rabbits-hole.com/presentation/ancient/ancient_artifacts.htm


The Badlands Guardian - with an MP3 player in his ear!

[hoarder]

I thought this thread was going to be about Kennewick Man.
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/Kennewic.htm
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-kennewick-man.html

[Ponce]

Well, at lest it waesn't about me, I am old but not thatttttttt old hahaahahaah.

Ponce <------------never ran around with Dino.

[Gypsybiker45]

I cant recall the name ,but the stories of Ancient India always fascinated me, along with other lost civilizations.

[Gaillo]

I cant recall the name ,but the stories of Ancient India always fascinated me, along with other lost civilizations.


Yes... the nuclear war stories in their Vedic texts are FASCINATING! :o

[rurounikitsune]

I love this stuff.

I believe there was a time when man was numerous - in the billions - and more technologically advanced than we are today (in some ways - maybe not in information technology). Almost certainly creating airplanes; perhaps even flying into space. The artifacts from that time are sparse but the few that have been allowed to enter the public consciousness (before being "lost" in the back of some museum or otherwise covered up because they conflict with the current evolutionary paradigm) are absolutely fascinating.

s8int.com has a nice big collection of these things. The ancient nuclear reactor built into a stone cave is pretty cool.

[chad]

I love this stuff.

I believe there was a time when man was numerous - in the billions - and more technologically advanced than we are today (in some ways - maybe not in information technology). Almost certainly creating airplanes; perhaps even flying into space. The artifacts from that time are sparse but the few that have been allowed to enter the public consciousness (before being "lost" in the back of some museum or otherwise covered up because they conflict with the current evolutionary paradigm) are absolutely fascinating.

s8int.com has a nice big collection of these things. The ancient nuclear reactor built into a stone cave is pretty cool.


you have a direct link to the nuclear reactor? that website is un-navigatable. looks like awesome info, but shitty design.

[sirgonzo420]

"the truth is stranger than fiction"



If I've learned anything from my years on this planet, it's that I don't know shit.

[k-os]

Fun stuff too look at and ponder indeed. The Great Pyramid has been a fav... as well as the Nazca Lines


I was going to mention the Nazca Lines, but wasn't sure if it was on topic. They're fascinating!

[Gaillo]

Some fun! Ancient atomic warfare:


Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana hurled a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour... a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds...the cloud of smoke rising after its first explosion formed into expanding round circles like the opening of giant parasols...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white. After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected...to escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment.

Ancient verses from the Mahabharata: (Approx. 6500 B.C.)

[AndreaGail]

yes definitely!!!

like how the sphinx would have lined up perfectly with the leo constallation in the sky if construction occured roughly 11,000 years ago

[Ponce]

You got it Gail, and remember the water marks that were there from before the pyramids were build.

[Jenna]

Crypto-archeology is a HUGE passion of mine. Lost civilizations, ancient ruins, sacred symbolism, geometry and texts, hidden codes, and astro-theology completely enamor me. Other slight oddities -- Georgia Guidestones, Hellfire Clubs, Oaks Island Money Pit, etc. -- will keep me engrossed in material for months. Please don't even get me started on Rennes-le-Château and the Cathars :o

I'm rarely able to venture into these subjects with others since most view them as a tad eccentric. But in answer your question; colossal enthusiast here!

[BullionVince]

Does watching Stargate Atlantis count?

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3135/mirko301600x12001.jpg

[Gaillo]

Does watching Stargate Atlantis count?

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3135/mirko301600x12001.jpg


Nope... unless you think it's a documentary! ;D

[Ponce]

From dreams the truth comes out.......a dreamworld where those dead become alive and those alive become dead.......where the two mingle in the corners of your mind and the reality of the world comes out into the light.

If you can think of it......it can become true.

[woodman]

Many varied and interesting things to investigate. I especially love to research mega-fauna. Also much literature may be found on artifacts that should never have existed in North America if one is to believe the official story of the discovery of America. One finds that there is much dishonesty and political correctness in science, so much so that some mainstream science is often just a form of propaganda.

[SeekYeFirst]

OOPARTS, Out Of Place ARTifactS, are all over the world. So much stuff is put out of sight. Most modern education reminds me of this, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
RunForTheHills (HS) appears to be knowledgeable of cryptoarcheology.

[Saul Mine]

I don't usually discuss the topic with anybody because it's so easy to drift into topics that are not at all grounded in fact. But I really like to follow borderline topics that are grounded in facts that are not well understood.

The mention of India jogged my brain so I dug out this old link: http://viewzone.com/ which has changed to http://mondovista.com/indexx.html and now has a much better appearance. Viewzone was a flood of wacky stuff nearly all of which found some connection to ancient India. It seemed like every hero, every language, and every tradition was traceable to ancient India. The new site looks like it might have a broader perspective, but I haven't looked through it yet.

[rurounikitsune]

you have a direct link to the nuclear reactor? that website is un-navigatable. looks like awesome info, but sh*tty design.


http://www.s8int.com/atomic2.html

[DMac]

A ton of information on this stuff is available via the Graham Hancock website:
http://www.grahamhancock.com/news/index.php

[Ponce]

Mr. First........that's very true, the answer is always there and all that you have to do is to learn how to read it.......those college experts try to make an easy answer into a hard answer because of what they think that they know and not because of what it is.

[Rossonero]

Love this stuff too. I first got exposed to it by reading Dead Men's Secrets by Jonathan Gray. Even if 20% of what he says is true, it's enough to make you really think about what was. There is nothing new under the sun. The s8int.com site is awesome too.

[Ponce]

Thank you Mr. kitsumi.........read page 2 and the rest in my favorites.

[MAGNES]

There is always new discoveries that show that
civilization was far more advanced than originally
thought, I always enjoy reading new finds.
Especially on Europeans, Indo Europeans.

And man built everything, this alien talk is nonsense, sorry.
Give credit where credit is due.

And look at where we are now, most living in cities lost
very important low technology vital to survival.
We can all learn many great things form the ancients.

This looks very interesting too, recent.
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Ancient+treaty+resembles+part+Bible/2781976/story.html
http://www.archaeologydaily.com/news/201004143809/Source-of-Bible-Covenant-with-God-discovered.html

[Saul Mine]

There is always new discoveries that show that
civilization was far more advanced than originally
thought, I always enjoy reading new finds.
Especially on Europeans, Indo Europeans.

And man built everything, this alien talk is nonsense, sorry.
Give credit where credit is due.

And look at where we are now, most living in cities lost
very important low technology vital to survival.
We can all learn many great things form the ancients.

This looks very interesting too, recent.
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Ancient+treaty+resembles+part+Bible/2781976/story.html
http://www.archaeologydaily.com/news/201004143809/Source-of-Bible-Covenant-with-God-discovered.html


That is something you run into over and over. Almost nothing was invented just once. Everybody knows that the steam engine was invented in ancient Egypt by a fellow we call Hero, or Heron, but the Egyptians couldn't think of any use for such an ambiguous toy other than to open the doors to a shrine. We have heard of the Baghdad Battery, which apparently was discovered by some metal workers and kept as a guild secret. The Antikythera Mechanism plainly shows that mechanical cleverness has been rampant for thousands of years. We think the flush toilet is the hallmark of civilization, but there is a city in SE Asia that had indoor plumbing and flush toilets 4,000 years ago.

Some people think the tv and the transistor are unique to present times. The first television was demonstrated in 1923, the field effect transistor was patented in 1928. When you say transistor, most people think of the junction transistor invented by Bell Laboratories in 1947. It took another 25 or so years to reinvent the superior field effect transistor.

Just three things distinguish modern civilization from our predecessors:
1. Mass production, credited to Sam Colt.
2. Gonzo marketing, credited to Diamond Jim Brady, Isaac Singer, and others.
3. Interest bearing savings accounts, invented by Noah Webster and contemporaries.

Interest is usually assumed to be the same as usury, which has always been condemned. It was Noah Webster, the dictionary guy, who formulated and championed the new idea in the USA. He reasoned that it was quite acceptable for a person to own a portion of a business and have a right to share in the profits. So it was equally acceptable for several people to deposit money with a steward (financial managers were called stewards then) who had a talent for investing in profitable businesses. The depositor would not own the businesses and would have no right to a share, but he would have an interest in the businesses and a right to be paid for his interest. That made it possible for an average wage earner to save money for retirement, living off his interest payments. Prior to that time it was impossible for a person to save enough money to retire. Millions of people saw the wisdom of this plan and hurried to deposit their savings in interest bearing accounts. That created a huge amount of investment at exactly the right time to finance the industrial revolution. It was not Fulton's invention of the steam boat that started the industrial revolution, it was Webster's invention of interest bearing savings accounts.

[Shami-Amourae]

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/v/CfA1Da8R2pU&hl

[JDRock]

Re moving big stones: A long time ago I saw pictures of a crew moving big stones. They used tripods made of timbers with ropes and stuff and it took a lot of man power to carry the tripods from the back to the front as the stone moved along. They were moving a stone of a hundred tons or so at the speed of a slow walk. I haven't been able to find anything on that subject again. Do you have anything?


research the coral castle in florida! A 110 lb man EASILY moved and STACKED several TON
blocks of coral by HIMSELF. Always in the dark of night...locals say they saw him just " lay hands" on them and move them like styrofoam.... when he died, the gov swept in IMMEDIATLY and pillaged and stole all they could involving the science of what he did.

[jedemdasseine]

I think Ammut will find the heart of Dr. Zahi Hawass very heavy against the feather of Ma'at.
;)

[Gaillo]

I think Ammut will find the heart of Dr. Zahi Hawass very heavy against the feather of Ma'at.
;)



;D ;D ;D

VERY nice! I like it! ;D

[sirgonzo420]

hahah ok I'm missing something...

[sirgonzo420]

hahah ok I'm missing something...


It relates to ancient Egyptian religious beliefs. Ammut would weigh the heart of the soul of the dead against the feather of Ma'at, if the heart was heavier then the soul could not pass on to their version of paradise. Kind of a "judgment" at the gates of Egyptian heaven.

He's saying that Dr. Zahi Hawass (the administrator of egyptian antiquities, including the Giza plateau and pyramids) has committed so many crimes against science by keeping certain "inconvenient" archeological facts hidden and obscuring the truth, that he won't pass the judgment when HIS heart gets weighed.



Ok... I got the reference to Egyptian beliefs, but I didn't know who Dr. Hawass was.

I figured if you all knew who he was, then I should too. LOL.... and I was too lazy to google. :P

[uranian]

new series of ancient aliens from the history channel is, remarkably, really interesting. given that the stuff put out by the MSM is normally an attempt to debunk the out of place artefacts, that i've actually learnt a couple of things from this documentary is a pretty remarkable turn around.

interesting points, among others; the stones of puma punku are made from diorite, which can only be carved with a harder stone (http://www.bestcrystals.com/hardness.html), which means that they had to be using diamond-tipped instruments. example of the degree of accuracy of the work:

http://www.laue-verlagshaus.com/deutsch/wp-content/myfotos/tiahuanaco-2007/Puma%20Punku011%20(Small).jpg

the electric light bulbs visible on the walls of denderah; standard archeology has it that torches were used in these underground crypts, yet there isn't enough oxygen to actually burn torches.

http://doernenburg.alien.de/alternativ/dendera/foto/sued1_big.jpg

(that's a representation of a flower, according to the standard archaeology :D)

i've been to stonehenge a few times, and i never knew that the concentric rings of its layout accurately represent the orbits of the planets (as does the layout of teotihuacan).

anyway, the documentary (first of a 5 part series running on tuesday on HC, for those of you with TVs!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z5r_YHepIc

edited to add, tikal fairly accurately reflects the constellation of the pleiades, which contains a star called maia. rather remarkable set of coincidences, not including the fact that there's another site on mars which is very similar!

http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/images/TIKAL3.jpg