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YukonCornelius
14th April 2010, 05:08 PM
'Birther' Lt. Col. Terry Lakin to be court-martialed for refusing order to deploy to Afghanistan

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/04/14/201...

By Michael Sheridan
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

An Army doc who refuses to go to Afghanistan until President Obama produces a birth certificate will face court-martial.

Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a decorated military man who has become a part of the fringe "birther" movement - which believes President Obama was not born in the United States - could face a dishonorable discharge for failing to obey orders, MSNBC reported on Tuesday.

The 18-year veteran came out in support of the largely discredited conspiracy theorists at the end of March, proclaiming he would "disobey" his "illegal" orders to deploy.

Ponce
14th April 2010, 05:12 PM
When you know that you are right then anything is fair and right.

"To know and not to do, is like doing nothing"...

nunaem
14th April 2010, 05:18 PM
...But as long as an american(Dubya) sends him to fight in an unconstitutional undeclared war, he has no problem?

YukonCornelius
14th April 2010, 05:22 PM
...But as long as an american(Dubya) sends him to fight in an unconstitutional undeclared war, he has no problem?


Agreed and applauded. That is one criticism of tea party goers. But...

Freedom fighting today is better than tomorrow.

mamboni
14th April 2010, 05:22 PM
fringe "birther" movement? largely discredited conspiracy theorists?

Where is the damn birth certificate, you G-d damn lying yellow-journalist bastards?

If you are going to court martial a decorated 18 year veteran, at least have the decency to produce the damn document that justifies the verdict!

How anyone can read these screed newspapers is beyond me.

JohnQPublic
14th April 2010, 05:28 PM
...The 18-year veteran came out in support of the largely discredited conspiracy theorists at the end of March, proclaiming he would "disobey" his "illegal" orders to deploy.



It is the smally part of the whole [conspiracy] theory that counts.

nunaem
14th April 2010, 05:43 PM
...But as long as an american(Dubya) sends him to fight in an unconstitutional undeclared war, he has no problem?


Agreed and applauded. That is one criticism of tea party goers. But...

Freedom fighting today is better than tomorrow.

I think the 'birther's' questions are valid but inconsequential.

It's hard to feel sorry for someone who's only objection to participating in an immoral aggressive war is that the person sending him to war might not be a citizen.

YukonCornelius
14th April 2010, 05:47 PM
...But as long as an american(Dubya) sends him to fight in an unconstitutional undeclared war, he has no problem?


Agreed and applauded. That is one criticism of tea party goers. But...

Freedom fighting today is better than tomorrow.

I think the 'birther's' questions are valid but inconsequential.

It's hard to feel sorry for someone who's only objection to participating in an immoral aggressive war is that the person sending him to war might not be a citizen.


Very much agreed, nothing to dispute there.

madfranks
14th April 2010, 05:57 PM
I'm going to take a different stance and say that this might be a good thing for the "birther" movement. The burden of proof is not on the Lt. to prove that Obama is not a natural born citizen, the burden will be on the prosecution to prove that he is. Let's see the birth certificate already!

osoab
14th May 2011, 07:12 PM
Terry Lakin is free. (http://www.terrylakinactionfund.com/terryisfree.html)


He spent his last 24 hours in a special housing unit set aside for pre-release processing. He enjoyed his last visit with Jim, a local supporter who has visited Terry many times over the last few months. Then after a final night's sleep Terry was awakened at 5am.

They brought in his breakfast at 5:30. He had his regulation 20 minutes to eat. Then he waited for the final paperwork to be processed. He turned in all his prison clothes. They gave him his duffel bag and took him to gate for a final strip search. He changed into his own clothes from the package sent to him by Pili. Then into the van and to the bank to cash out his $40 prison account.

And then the final ride in the prison van to the park-and-ride in eastern Leavenworth.

Greg Lakin waits for Terry. Across the street Jim and Peggy wait in the parking lot. Any non-registered greeters could cause them to drive by and run Terry back to the prison.

We wait. The van drives by on the way to the bank. It passes us and turn right into town. Then about 20 minutes later it returns. It is a white panel van with no markings. The only hint that it is Terry's van is the uniformed MP in the front seat. He pulls up next to our car and steps out. Pulling a small card from his shoulder pocket he checks our Ids.

As he puts the card back he walks to the back of the van and unlocks the door. Terry is seated in the van without travel shackles for the first time in 5 months. He steps out and embraces Greg in tears. The MP shakes Terry's hand and wishes him well. He drives the van away.

Jim and Peggy rush across the street and jump out to embrace Terry. They began visiting Terry in prison shortly after his sentencing. They have provided a room in their house for visitors and visited him two to three times a week since then. They are fast friends.

More tears and hugs. We hand Terry a netbook running Skype so he can talk to his family. The children are home waiting for his call. Pili appears on the screen with a huge smile. "Come hear kids, your dad is on the phone!" Holly, Jack, and Andrew rush over. Jack, the three year old takes over the screen making faces and laughing. Lot's of "We love you, dad," and "See you tomorrow!" Then a call with Terry's parents. "Hey mom, this is your son, Terry." "Wait, let me get your dad on the extension." Lots of how are doings and we love you's.

Then off to Terry's first real meal. A local steakhouse where is savors crab-filled mushrooms, onion rings, steak soup, and of course, a steak. He is loving it. He is free.

Still Barbaro
15th May 2011, 03:01 AM
^ I think the man is a fool, as is the rest of the birther movement.

osoab
15th May 2011, 04:30 AM
^ I think the man is a fool, as is the rest of the birther movement.




Glad to see you input added. :oo-->

keehah
15th May 2011, 12:19 PM
^ I think the man is a fool, as is the rest of the birther movement.



The man is a surgen.
Talking about the 'birther movement' a strawman used to shut down discussion and keep sheep asleep as if it is an actual thing, a movement, would seem to only come from a perspective of a mundane or deceiver.