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big country
19th April 2010, 06:33 AM
http://www.fbi.gov/page2/april10/sovereigncitizens_041310.html

DOMESTIC TERRORISM
The Sovereign Citizen Movement
04/13/10

Some examples of illegal license plates used by so-called sovereign citizens.


Domestic terrorism—Americans attacking Americans because of U.S.-based extremist ideologies—comes in many forms in our post 9/11 world.

To help educate the public, we’ve previously outlined two separate domestic terror threats—eco-terrorists/animal rights extremists and lone offenders.


Today, we look at a third threat—the “sovereign citizen” extremist movement. Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or “sovereign” from the United States. As a result, they believe they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement.

This causes all kinds of problems—and crimes. For example, many sovereign citizens don’t pay their taxes. They hold illegal courts that issue warrants for judges and police officers. They clog up the court system with frivolous lawsuits and liens against public officials to harass them. And they use fake money orders, personal checks, and the like at government agencies, banks, and businesses.

That’s just the beginning. Not every action taken in the name of the sovereign citizen ideology is a crime, but the list of illegal actions committed by these groups, cells, and individuals is extensive (and puts them squarely on our radar). In addition to the above, sovereign citizens:

Commit murder and physical assault; Regular citizens don't do this!
Threaten judges, law enforcement professionals, and government personnel; or this
Impersonate police officers and diplomats;or this
Use fake currency, passports, license plates, and driver’s licenses; and or this
Engineer various white-collar scams, including mortgage fraud and so-called “redemption” schemes.
Sovereign citizens are often confused with extremists from the militia movement. But while sovereign citizens sometimes use or buy illegal weapons, guns are secondary to their anti-government, anti-tax beliefs. On the other hand, guns and paramilitary training are paramount to militia groups.

During the past year, we’ve had a number of investigative successes involving sovereign citizens. A few recent cases:

In Sacramento, two sovereign citizens were convicted of running a fraudulent insurance scheme. Operating outside state insurance regulatory guidelines, the men set up their own company and sold “lifetime memberships” to customers, promising to pay any accident claims against their “members.” The company collected millions of dollars, but paid out very few claims. More
In Kansas City, three sovereign citizens were convicted of taking part in a conspiracy using phony diplomatic credentials. They charged customers between $450 and $2,000 for a diplomatic identification card, which would bestow upon the holder “sovereign” status—meaning they would enjoy diplomatic immunity from paying taxes and from being stopped or arrested by law enforcement. More
In Las Vegas, four men affiliated with the sovereign citizen movement were arrested by the Nevada Joint Terrorism Task Force on federal money laundering, tax evasion, and weapons charges. The investigation involved an undercover operation, with two of the suspects allegedly laundering more than a million dollars from what they believed was a bank fraud scheme. More
You can help. First, “be crime smart”—don’t fall for the bogus claims and scams of sovereign citizens. And second, if you have information on any suspicious activities or crimes, please contact us.

Resources:
- Lone Offenders
- Eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists


Quality reporting/press release here...
If you're involved in the Sovereign Citizen movement just be careful

goldmonkey
19th April 2010, 06:46 AM
This is straight from the Jew SPLC:
http://bit.ly/cV1NqU

Book
19th April 2010, 07:09 AM
This is straight from the Jew SPLC:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2008/winter/house-of-ill-repute/what-is-a-soverei



http://www.blogcdn.com/www.switched.com/media/2007/09/dhs_chertoff.jpg

Chertoff is the co-author, along with Viet Dinh, of the USA PATRIOT ACT, signed into law October 26, 2001

:oo--> Chertoff and his ZOG Mossad buddies had the Patriot Act already written before 9-11. This was never about scary mooslims...

mick silver
19th April 2010, 10:46 AM
this morning i went to have atire repair and was ask for my phone number . i ask the guy why he needed my number and he said it was because of the Patriot Act and i said you got to be kidding me . what a f joke ... have any of you seen this

Libertytree
19th April 2010, 10:55 AM
There are times I get asked this question too Mick, I don't know exactly who's number they got but they got a number. ;D

big country
19th April 2010, 11:23 AM
the only phone number questions I get are at Cabela's, but yesterdays interaction took the cake.

The cashier asked for my phone number (always does...no suprise) and I said I'd like to decline giving it, she said OK and asked for my zipcode instead. I said I'd prefer not to give it. She insisted by saying, "really? Its just a zipcode" and I said "Am I required to give it?" She told me that I was not required to give it, but she could get fired for not getting it from people. I told her that it wasn't my problem and said again I'd prefer not to give it out. She was obviously pissed, but I went on my way with my new Titanium cookpot for my backpacking stove :)

drafter
19th April 2010, 11:37 AM
Phone number is always 867-5309. Jenny can take a message if I'm not there.

Ponce
19th April 2010, 11:41 AM
Longggggggg ago, about 1978, went to a new dentist........from the beginning I told him that I was going to pay cash as I go......but.......he wanted anyway my Social Security, phone, address, who I work for, how much I was earning, closes relative, who would pay if I could not, name and phone number of my closes friend, my hobbies (three pages)..........and on, and on........worse than when I was getting my Crypto Security Clearance in the army.

Anyway, I told the secretary that I wanted to see him and when he came I tore the blank forms in front of him and walked away.........oh yes, it was and official printed form.

I would hate to see his new forms after 32 years.

gunDriller
19th April 2010, 11:52 AM
i think this definition applies to a lot of us.

i know the US gov. does not work for me, even though i have made it a point to vote. it is not a functioning democracy. the US government is a combination of Sovietization, corporate fascism, with a heavy dose of war machine.

it is my obligation to support none of these things.

the US government left me - i didn't leave the US government.

9-11 being one teeny example.

because i know these things, maybe i have something in common with the people who label themselves "Sovereign Citizens". we agree on most things - such as, neither of us has the obligation to pay for the salaries, healthcare, or pensions of people like Nancy Pelosi.

i.e., we don't have an obligation to pay for those costs at the federal, state, or local level, when we find ourselves confronted with elected & appointed officials who work for wealthy special interests, who most of the time are Zionist and/or Jewish.

it's called no taxation without representation.

in this context, the FBI is not working for the citizens of the United States, because one of the primary allegiances of most Citizens, whether they are GIMers or Sovereign Citizens, is two-fold -
* loyalty to the Constitution.
* incorporating the Ten Commandments and other forms of Christian and Muslim (and possibly Rastafarian - but not Talmudic) values into our lives.

i have a feeling that the "English king" that we hear so much about in grade school, you know, the story of the 13 colonies and the tea party and Paul Revere ... that English king was actually Talmudic Jewish English bankers. the king was just a figure head, like Bush 43 & Obama.

so the conflict is similar now, except instead of the English king as a figure head, we have Obama. and instead of English bankers, we are dealing with New York Bankers and other traitors who are working inside the US government to ratify the coup d'etat constituted by the attacks of 9-11.

obviously they are continuing to have their usual delusions, that it is the duty of American Men & Women to go to Iraq & Afghanistan to die for the Whims of Israel & the Oil Industry.

JJ.G0ldD0t
19th April 2010, 11:54 AM
Kill the link in the OP...

I clicked on it without thinking ( that was boneheaded on my part)

eff bee eye picks up on linkage from this site- unwanted attention.

Good post though - thanks

mick silver
19th April 2010, 12:54 PM
oh ... when in the hell did it cost 25 to fix a flat on a truck ... sorry if i hijack the tread

Ponce
19th April 2010, 01:14 PM
Last time I had someone fix a flat it was $2.50..........that's how long ago it was.

banjo
19th April 2010, 01:42 PM
Phone number is always 867-5309. Jenny can take a message if I'm not there.


Thanks a lot, now I've got that damn thing in my head! :ROFL:

I am me, I am free
19th April 2010, 02:08 PM
From the FiBbIe site:


Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country

That's a legal determination, and I have not consented to anyone making a legal determination regarding my status as to whether or not I'm a 'resident'.

Ponce
19th April 2010, 02:15 PM
Drafter? that's the number for the White House........a direct number to President Obama desk, I hope it wasn't THE RED PHONE.

Ares
19th April 2010, 04:05 PM
From the FiBbIe site:


Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country

That's a legal determination, and I have not consented to anyone making a legal determination regarding my status as to whether or not I'm a 'resident'.


That is true, there is a very large difference between a "residence" and a Domicile. :)