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sirgonzo420
19th April 2010, 10:54 AM
http://goldennumber.net/images/obama-signature1.gifhttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:JhoS3z9fzcXHXM:http://www.bigplastichead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/obama-signature.jpghttp://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:FZqjQ-5U0dKIXM:http://thesamerowdycrowd.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/barack-obama-signature.jpghttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:PaQ28dPJcx-qgM:http://cagle.com/images/Purcell/obama.jpg

Why does he go out of his way to make a Φ (phi) out of the "O" and "b" in his last name? Perhaps he harbors a secret love for math/geometry?

:conf:

Here are some other examples of the 'golden ratio' (aka 'divine proportion', etc) in everyday life - uppercase phi = Φ
lowercase phi= φ:

http://goldennumber.net/images/aniccard.gif

http://goldennumber.net/images/DLogo.jpg

http://goldennumber.net/images/logo-pep.gifhttp://goldennumber.net/images/logo-toy.gifhttp://goldennumber.net/images/logo-nis.gif


What say you?

chad
19th April 2010, 11:27 AM
because he's an asshole?

k-os
19th April 2010, 11:28 AM
I'd like to think of it as the international "no" sign. A circle with a line through it. Like he signs his name "Barak Nobama" :plll

Neuro
19th April 2010, 11:35 AM
Also it is the sign for diameter...

I guess it could be a symbol for fuvking the world too..

ximmy
19th April 2010, 11:42 AM
He had to do it because of his pact with the devil... it is an anti-spirit sign

Ponce
19th April 2010, 11:47 AM
I seen this a lot in the US army where they place a slash across the number 0 so that it wont get confused with the letter O ( I used it as a radio operator).

Many times some numbers are not used so they wont get confused with another number like 3 and 8, there are a couple of more numbers but I forgot which one they are.

Horn
19th April 2010, 11:49 AM
If you look closely you'll notice that there is an intersection or cross formed in the center in most cases.

Awoke
19th April 2010, 11:57 AM
Because the Phi symbol is a close resemblance to the eye of a reptile-lizard-man.

;D

ruprick
19th April 2010, 12:06 PM
Because eveh he thinks he is a ZERO......he is using the 0 with the line trough it to make sure you don't confuse it with the letter O....

I think it is call a "null set"

gunny highway
19th April 2010, 01:19 PM
Phi is the 21st letter in the Greek alphabet (thank you college ;D)
not sure what the significance might be. maybe one of you can come up with something.

gunDriller
19th April 2010, 03:34 PM
http://goldennumber.net/images/obama-signature1.gif

that's what i get for living in California.

it's the Oreo symbol. please don't ask me what that means.
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just kidding ! i have no idea what it means.

i think that's just Obama's flashy way of making an O.

Olmstein
19th April 2010, 05:07 PM
If Saoirse were here, I bet he would know.

jedemdasseine
19th April 2010, 05:23 PM
This is very interesting. I studied graphology a lot when I was younger, and though I can't say I take it very seriously, I'll give you what my analysis would have been years ago when I believed in it.

A strike through the first letter of one's name (or through one's entire given name or surname) is said to be indicative of inner conflict with identity. The strike is a subconscious mark of denial, hatred, or confusion. For example, before a woman finalizes a divorce and again uses her maiden name, she may start to put a strike through part of her married name, because she may feel it doesn't represent her anymore, or that it represents conflict with her husband. In short, it's an identity crisis in signature form. Perhaps his name really isn't Obama, or perhaps he isn't who he claims to be? What's interesting is that the strike is vertical and not horizontal, which suggests Obama is putting up a "wall" or is very wary about sharing this identity crisis with others, like he has something to hide. Denial, hatred, or confusion are the roots of such conflict.

jedemdasseine
19th April 2010, 05:29 PM
The B in Barack is even more interesting, as it has the classic features of one who is very popular and seemingly powerful, but behind the scenes struggles immensely with personal demons, addiction, risk taking, and self-destructive behavior.

Compare to the M in Mickey Mantle's signature:
http://www.fadedgiant.net/assets/images/mantle_mickey_signature_2.jpg

Many gamblers and drug addicts write like this.

gunDriller
19th April 2010, 05:31 PM
Denial, hatred, or confusion are the roots of such conflict.

that sounds like what Yoda said about the Dark Side of the Force in "The Empire Strikes Back." 8)

jedemdasseine
19th April 2010, 05:33 PM
Pete Rose has similar features, too.
http://cookandsonbats.mlblogs.com/pete%20rose%20autograph.jpg

jedemdasseine
19th April 2010, 05:39 PM
Don't take this stuff too seriously.

It's fun, but so is your daily horoscope in USA Today.

Saul Mine
19th April 2010, 06:07 PM
Every high school kid experiments with dozens of decorations to his signature. They eventually select one which they might continue to use for their entire lives. It doesn't have to make sense.

StackerKen
19th April 2010, 06:24 PM
I wanna know how the op typed that Phi symbol

I don't see one on my keyboard.

sirgonzo420
19th April 2010, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the input, all.

Whilst the handwriting analysis is quite interesting (and likely on point), I posted this because I was wondering if the Φ shape specifically in Obama's signature is meant to be a reference to phi, the golden ratio, which is said to embody beauty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

Take Disney for example:

http://goldennumber.net/images/DLogo.jpg

Notice that phi appears three times!

Here are multiple examples of phi in a violin:

http://goldennumber.net/images/violin2.gif


(in hindsight, perhaps this thread is mis-titled - it was intended to be a thread more about sacred geometry (and perhaps Obama's connection therewith) than handwriting analysis per se, but threads here are typically interesting no matter where they go 8) )

chad
19th April 2010, 06:28 PM
i hope no one ever dissects my signature. it's literally a big C with a line behind it. ;D

General of Darkness
19th April 2010, 06:32 PM
because he's an asshole?


Damn thing said I have to wait an hour to rep you.

StackerKen
19th April 2010, 06:39 PM
Φ Φ
0

SeekYeFirst
19th April 2010, 08:10 PM
I'd like to think of it as the international "no" sign. A circle with a line through it. Like he signs his name "Barak Nobama" :plll

Thanks. LOL ;D

jedemdasseine
19th April 2010, 08:54 PM
He probably signs his name like that because he thinks it looks cool. 8)

Saul Mine
19th April 2010, 11:34 PM
I wanna know how the op typed that Phi symbol

I don't see one on my keyboard.


http://www-atm.physics.ox.ac.uk/user/iwi/charmap.html

Neuro
19th April 2010, 11:48 PM
Maybe it is a D as in Davies, who might have been his real father, at least he was the father figure in O's formative years...

singular_me
20th April 2010, 06:53 AM
Thanks for the input, all.

Whilst the handwriting analysis is quite interesting (and likely on point), I posted this because I was wondering if the Φ shape specifically in Obama's signature is meant to be a reference to phi, the golden ratio, which is said to embody beauty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

Take Disney for example:

http://goldennumber.net/images/DLogo.jpg

Notice that phi appears three times!

Here are multiple examples of phi in a violin:

http://goldennumber.net/images/violin2.gif


(in hindsight, perhaps this thread is mis-titled - it was intended to be a thread more about sacred geometry (and perhaps Obama's connection therewith) than handwriting analysis per se, but threads here are typically interesting no matter where they go 8) )


I agree with golden ratio' s meaning - the elites use all kinds of symbolism between themeselves, especially that referring to sacred geometry... again it is the power of the intent that counts.

It merely shows that they have mastered/studied the secrets of the Universe.

007
20th April 2010, 01:30 PM
Ouroboros

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