I need help finding scrap base metals for a side-project

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Hi Everyone,

I've been having a hell of a time finding base metals for a side project of mine. I'm looking for aluminum, brass, bronze, titanium, copper, steel, or any other metal except lead in either shaving or powder form.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1408/604483740_435ecd07bd.jpg

I called every machine shop in the phone book, and they all think I'm a refiner trying to sell their shavings, so they say no. I did have some luck with one GunDriller who is going to sell me some neat alloys. I am offering to buy these metal shavings at market price and I always specify that they are for an art project/personal use, but nobody is selling to me. I don't blame them - it's not worth their time.

Does anybody here have any ideas for resources or avenues that I can explore? I need metals and I need them shaving or powder form. The more surface area, the better.

All the metal retailer sites on the web have "Minimum order: 2 tons" etc on their sites. I'm looking for 50-100 lbs. max. Does anybody know of a site like this? How do I talk my way into a recycling plant and get them to sell these metals to me?

I did have some luck going to several key-cutting places. I was simply given the brass shavings from the keys, even though I offered to pay. The problem is that the quantity is nowhere near enough.

http://www.woodturningvideosplus.com/images/brass_shavings.jpg


I know you folks are the metal experts. Thanks for your time.

[Nomen luni]

What is the project, out of interest?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Metal cast in resin which also contains a piezo-electric mineral such as quartz has been repeatedly proven to lessen/alter fields of Electro Magnetic Frequency. These devices chew up and dissipate Wifi and microwave radiation signals, by acting as lossy resonators.

Since I've started making them, I feel very different. But I've run out of metal. This is something I want to continue exploring but I simply cannot find the bulk metal.

http://photos.tradeholding.com/attach/hash55/118327/wimg_4038.jpg

[Nomen luni]

Hey that looks really cool. Aside from its electromagnetic effect, it's a lovely piece of art!

My only suggestion is to look for a local model engineering club. Just make sure I don't get there first. I think I found a new hobby!

[edit]Aha! Just looked at your profile... orgonite! I actually own a full size orgone accumulator, and whilst I haven't done any experiments with a valid control on it, I have quite a few anecdotals that are fully enough to convince me that the phenomena is real. I haven't made up my mind on orgonite yet. To my knowledge, Reich didn't do any research along that line.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Reich made Orgone Accumulators, which were incredibly effective but stored much of the collected energy. After they ran for a long time, they had sucked in so much energy that several assistants got sick just from touching the Orgone Accumulators directly. In my mind this is a testament to how much energy they can pull. Dr. Reich usually grounded his largest constructs to bodies of running water.

The addition of the Piezo-electric material somehow innervates the metal-resin matrix, and this accumulation of energy is no longer a problem. This action is not completely understood, despite there being a dozen forums organized around figuring it out.

The addition of a piezo-electric driver is the difference between an "orgone accumulator" and what we call "orgonite". Orgonite is easy because it is for the everyman, but actually your Orgone accumulator is the real deal, and very cool. If you would like to post about what it looks like I would be thrilled. As I understand it, they *all* utilize the principle of alternating layers of organic/inorganic material. Hence, my metal/resin.

I want to construct several more devices and gift them around, so I can try to scientifically explain what is going on. I'm going to try the recycling plant next.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Here is one made with nano-iron, clear resin, and quartz crystal ground to nano size. The incredible surface area of the nanometal is almost 15x that of fine powder - the nanometal actually offers incredible resistance here. Because of this the quartz must be ground to receive a uniform piezoelectric effect.

Blue Kyanite and Lapis Lazuli have been added for jewerly value.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/3962892471_4e6a5fede8.jpg

Sensei made these, not me.

[Nomen luni]

People repeatedly got sick just from touching the Orgone Accumulators, even while they were in passive mode.I haven't read anything of that in Reich's work or experienced it when using an accumulator over the years. People were noted to get sick when low-level nuclear material was placed in a charged environment.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

There are definitely safe ways to use an accumulator, but most of the time they involve somehow grounding the accumulator during use, or cleansing it of the accumulated energy between uses. Basically it's drawing EMF energy towards it all the time - running water is the most common way of cleansing these devices of their electrical energy.

[Saul Mine]

Check the yellow pages for Recycling Services or Junk Dealers. Ask the machine shops who they sell their shavings to. Ask at hardware stores if they know an art foundry where you can get some drawer pulls duplicated. Then ask the foundry about metal sources. Also ask the foundry about making small particles so you don't have to pay a machinist to do it.

[Saul Mine]

I just thought about copper. You can usually get copper from a junk yard, in small pieces of electrical wire. Dissolve those in hydrochloric acid, then hang an iron nail in the solution. Copper flakes will pile up in the bottom of the bottle.

[ghost]

You had pictures on the old site of a couple of orgonite pieces. How large were they and did you help with their construction? Those were very impressive and good looking too.

I'm just starting to gather the material to make some pieces. I have found powered aluminum on the internet,usually used for fire works, I haven't determined if that would be good in orgonite.

I would be interested in any information or observations you might share.

Thanks, ghost

[still afloat]

Check with the metal shop at a vocational school .

What state are you in ?
If it's Ky I've got 10 + or - lbs of brass shavings from a lathe thats going to end up sold for scrap by my daughter.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Thank you all for the suggestions, I think there is some good information here regarding the acquisition of base metals. Still Afloat, I am in California but I appreciate the offer. I imagine there are thousands of people across the country in your situation (access to metals) and I just need to build a network. Saul, your suggetsions are especially good regarding the basic footwork I need to do, thank you.

Regarding the reconstitution of copper with hydrochloric acid, how do I dispose the the acid once this process is complete? Will evaporation allow me to recover the flakes, or do I need to strain it out? This is just out of curiosity, since for my purposes, I can use the cut up wire just fine. I know gold dissolves in hydrochloric acid as well - can I use the iron nail trick to recover gold in the same way, I wonder?

Ghost, I have found several extremely large pieces of Organite on the internet. The largest device I have personally contructed is the size of a large beer stein. I like to use glass molds but I am looking to move into something more durable, either silicon molds or metal with teflon coating. Either way I need to use a release agent but it's better than breaking my mold if/when I can't get the piece out.

I'll post a few more custom pieces in the next post.

[Ash_Williams]

If it were me I'd take some chunks of metal and a big disk sander and just go at it. A powerful one with real low-grit sandpaper disk can knock off a lot of material in a short time. Go to a higher grit if you want even smaller shavings. Just capture the shavings in a metal bin. Make sure you wear a dust mask and the goggles.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

http://www.orgonix23.com/Images/6skywalker/DSC011651.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3GcJ3lwfb5A/SD_u8QYxD9I/AAAAAAAAAW0/pts5GxE_rYQ/s400/420181704_f47afe58ea.jpg

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[Ash_Williams]

One thing I'm curious about is where you get the resin for that kind of project. I'd like some cheap good clear stuff for coating clocks.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

If bondo from home depot isn't nice enough, then I suggest this following clear resin. It comes with catalyst/hardener:

http://www.uscomposites.com/polyesters.html

The Silmar41 is an excellent clear resin. It is resistant to cracking and forgiving towards measuring mistakes when adding the hardener. Also this is a cheap price for clear resin, compared to auto/surf/marine shops, where the clear stuff is notoriously marked up.

UScomposites is the best supplier I've found on the internet for resins.

Also, for 20 bucks they sell a "color 4-pack" which contains Blue, Yellow, Green, Red (I believe). From here you can make almost any color you want via mixing. Pretty useful to have around if you are buying bulk resin.

[Saul Mine]

Regarding the reconstitution of copper with hydrochloric acid, how do I dispose the the acid once this process is complete? Will evaporation allow me to recover the flakes, or do I need to strain it out? This is just out of curiosity, since for my purposes, I can use the cut up wire just fine. I know gold dissolves in hydrochloric acid as well - can I use the iron nail trick to recover gold in the same way, I wonder?

Use a coffee filter to separate the flakes. Rinse well. The acid is neutralized by dissolving the copper provided you don't use any more than necessary. Neutralize the excess with baking soda or lye. It will foam a lot. When the foaming stops it's neutral and you can dump it.

Gold does not dissolve in HCl. There are some tricks but you don't really want to use them. Talk to a jeweler about bench sweepings (sawdust and dirt). Or buy a coin and file it to death.

You can get gold flakes at Ebay, but it's actually zinc and copper.

[Dave Thomas]

Nocturnal, of course you could build a faraday cage of sorts.

The criteria of shielding is two fold.

1) Making sure said cage is adequately contiguous (electrically), and earth grounded.

2) Making sure said cage has openings no bigger than the fundamental frequency you want to stop.

I'm sort of thinking of a Mylar/Aluminum house wrap, and then screens on the windows. Metal bug screens for instance will stop or bounce frequencies up to 10+GHz.

You don't even need to go that hardcore, you could paint said room you wanted to be isolated in a conductive paint.

http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html

You'll also notice they have provisions for connecting said painted surface to ground.

They even have copper particulate paints but geeze look at the cost. 2000 bucks for 5 gallons!

You could of course take very fine copper/brass/aluminium powder and mix it with an enamel. Just like your doing, but less viscous for painting.

And you don't even have to worry about frequencies above 5GHz really anyways, because the higher the frequency, the more energy is needed to do harm, and those waves are so small that they generally tend to glance off in very specific directions.

It's the long wave ones below 80MHz that can bathe full rooms in RF.

Of course such a solution wouldn't look as pretty as the stuff you've posted!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Dave, I concur wholeheartedly. The enamel/metal idea is very similar to the RADAR-defeating paint applied to spy planes (propriety nano-metal recipe, but same concept) What a great idea with enamel. Anecdotal reports indicate that even ultralow frequencies ambient in the atmosphere are processed by these devices. To copy the concept into a paint is a phenominal idea. This would greatly increase the usefulness of the objects in society, as burying something the size of a hockeypuck is not always sightly or practical.

If we had things my way, buildings would have organite built into them structurally, and the weight of the building would contribute to the piezo-electric effect.

[Awoke]

Egyptian, I am not very knowledgeable in this field, but I have a close personal friend who is. I have sent him a link to this thread and invited him to either join and contribute, or send me a block of text and I will post it on his behalf.

If he is interested in contributing.

I know that he has built a number of these type of tablets, but the ones he built were essentially the size of a hockey puck. He then installed them at the base of towers that he thought were suspect (http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?topic=2716.msg24298#msg24298).

He felt like there were people taking notice of his project, because he took the time to istall these at every tower in our city that was suspect, and then something or someone scared him away from continuing...

I can't remember the details, so I hope he chooses to take part in this discussion. We'll see.

[jedemdasseine]

Don't know if they're still good, but you can try
http://www.rotometals.com/default.asp

http://www.thomasnet.com sometimes has good buys, but not always.

[I am me, I am free]

What you're calling 'tower busters' were originally called holy hand grenades.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMTQEtdSuBE/0.jpg

[chad]

i wish i had one of these. i sometimes service a data reader on a cell tower here. i'd totally bury one of these to see what happens. where can you get one of these?

[I am me, I am free]

i wish i had one of these. i sometimes service a data reader on a cell tower here. i'd totally bury one of these to see what happens. where can you get one of these?


If you do a search you're likely to find someone selling them (usually overpriced), otherwise it's strictly a DIY project.

[Awoke]

DMac, thanks for the compliment (http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?topic=2716.msg24909#msg24909).

I really hope my friend that I mentioned chooses to get involved in this discussion. He is quite knowledgeable on these TB's, and he explained it to me over beers one night so that I could understand it.

Unfortunately, long-term memory capacity is not one of my strong suits.

I'll harass him until I have some useful information to share here.

[Awoke]

They are not difficult to make, IAFIAM

Epoxy and metal shavings. Some Crystals. Nothing too it.

[chad]

i wish i had one of these. i sometimes service a data reader on a cell tower here. i'd totally bury one of these to see what happens. where can you get one of these?


If you do a search you're likely to find someone selling them (usually overpriced), otherwise it's strictly a DIY project.


do you have any links on how to make them? i can get scrap easy, my friend ons a cnc shop.

[DMac]

What you're calling 'tower busters' were originally called holy hand grenades.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMTQEtdSuBE/0.jpg


Quick search on HHg returned this:

Holy, Holy, Holy Handgrenades (http://educate-yourself.org/dc/HHGconstruction10jan02.shtml[/url)

[I am me, I am free]

No links handy, do a search for holy hand grenade (or tower buster) plans. Pretty simple.

Best source for your quartz crystal needs (you want the double terminated crystals) -

http://www.arcrystalmine.com/index.php

Some examples of DTs suitable for this use (about $1.75 each) -

http://www.arcrystalmine.com/Dt/AA%20DTs.JPG

[DMac]

Some more info:

How to Make Orgonite "TowerBusters" (TB's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPNCV1WATso

How to Make Orgonite "Holy Handgrenades" (HHg's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOic3MuVLQ

How to Make "Cloudbusters" (CB's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCn1DO2Rj6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGcSYCZAHVE

[chad]

thanks for the links, :D

[Awoke]

I wasn't going to mention this, but after my buddy had gotten through most of the towers in our city, he actually noticed that he was being tailed by a man in a suit, and he convincingly told me that he suspected that he was the focal point of multiple black helicopter sightings directly over his house.

I wasn't going to mention it because it sounds too hokey with the "Black suit" and teh "Black 'copter", but I believe him, he was genuinely scared, and it made him stop his project when there were only 2 or 3 towers left for him to bust.

Don't shoot the messenger.

The reason I decided to share that portion of the story is, whatever these things do to their systems they have in place with these towers, they can detect it. They notice it, and they investigate it.

If you're going to pursue it, keep that in mind.
And remain safe.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I am Me, I am Free: You are correct as per your usual. I posted a picture of an HHG originally - usually shaped like a martini glass. The things that look like Hockey Pucks - those are TBs. They are identical in every regard, except for size and shape. Also, sometimes the HHGs get a few extra quartz points added in. Both can be used as field pieces or personal pieces. Size matters - more mass is better. Also, the more surface area of the metal inside, the better.




Here's what they do to when exposed to water during freezing:

http://orgone-art.quebecorgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/glace/Mvc-516f.jpg

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/181207046kzc2yep.jpg

http://nauka.adsoglasi.com/energijamaterija/orgone_ice2.jpg

http://orgone-art.quebecorgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/glace/Ice%20Spike.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Visible effect of orgone generator on garden
Part two, Summer 2005

One year ago, we carry out a test to see objectively, if orgone generators had any effect on the vegetable kingdom. The results were very conclusive, we noted that the orgonized garden was at least double the size and that all elements of it seemed considerably improved compared to the other identical garden.

For the full report of last year: http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/anglais/visibleeffectgarden.htm (http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/anglais/visibleeffectgarden.htm)

Now, this year we carried out the same test

The two gardens are identical, the same weight of seed was planted in each plot at the same places in each garden. Throughout the experiment, the plants were left with themselves; no fertilizer or pesticide where added just as at any time the gardens were not sprinkled artificially.

The difference with last year, it is that only one variety of vegetables was planted in the two gardens: The marrows waltham Butternut.

Description of the plant:

These very vigorous plants produce from 4 to 7 fruits which have the shape of bottle. They weigh from 1,5 to 3 kg. The cylindrical part is completely full and there is a small seed cavity in the reinflated part. The skin is of color ochre with maturity. The flesh, of color yellow-orange, is very fine and of excellent savour to the hazel nut taste. The fruits are characterized by a very good capacity of conservation sometimes more than one year. Growth: 83-115 days. This variety of Butternut was introduced commercially in 1970 by Bob Young de Waltham into Massachusset.

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_18.jpg


June 24, 2005; Organised Garden:

Notice the 4 TBs and 1 HHG laid in the garden!

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_1.jpg

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_2.jpg

June 24, 2005; Regular Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_3.jpg


July 13, 3005; Overall View:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_6.jpg

Organised Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_4.jpg

Normal Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_5.jpg


August 3rd, 2005; Overall View:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_7.jpg

Organised Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_9.jpg

Normal Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_8.jpg


August 17th, 2005; Overall View:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_13.jpg

Organised Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_11.jpg

Normal Garden:

[]http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_10.jpg[/img]


August 27th, 2005:

Organised Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_14.jpg

Normal Garden:

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/image/effetsvisibles/vegetation/jardin2005_15.jpg





I counted 16 big marrows in the organized garden and 5 small marrows in the normal garden on August 27

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

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Gardening Trials: Growing Giant Vegetables in Brighton

Local gardeners are needed for 2009 trials of 'wonder resin', Orgonite

March 26, 2009 - Press Dispensary - Last year, a solid, resin-based material called Orgonite was used in East Sussex to grow giant vegetables in a small but significant trial run by freelance journalist, Mark Bennett. Now, he is teaming up with EcoLogicCool of Sydney Street, Brighton, to conduct a much larger trial starting in early April, 2009, and is seeking gardeners to participate and document the growing harvest and resulting crops.

To date, a dozen participants have signed up from the Sussex area and gardeners will be added to the trial until supplies of Orgonite run out. Participants can have any level of gardening experience and will receive free Orgonite 'pucks', a questionnaire and a disposable camera to photograph their results during the trial.

A simple mixture of resin, aluminium shavings and a crystal, the Orgonite technology is derived from Freud's contemporary, Wilhelm Reich*, who developed the idea of orgone energy and how it affects the human body and nature. Orgone is known in different cultures as chi, prana, ki, or mana and Reich developed a range of technologies to harness and focus this energy. Kate Bush sang about it in her song, 'Cloudbusting'. William Burroughs was known to be a regular user of an Orgone Accumulator which is claimed to focus life energy and attributed it to his vitality in later life.

Orgonite can be moulded into any shape for purposes ranging from beautiful indoor artefacts to outdoor soil-enhancers.

Following an unexpected arrival of a large box of Orgonite from a friend in February 2008, Mark Bennett - a respected investigative journalist and photographer - spent time researching the resin and its effect on plants. He found several websites that documented the growing of vegetable gardens. The resulting crops were large; in stark contrast to the control crops grown without Orgonite.

Mark needed his own proof. He started with simple seed germination tests of alfalfa sprouts using a control sample minus Orgonite. The tests were repeated with strict measurements to rule out errors. The results in both cases were a threefold increase in the alfalfa sprouts' volume. Mark then supplied Orgonite to friends who had allotments and gardens.

M. Rogers from Shoreham used Orgonite to aid a variety of failing, non-indigenous plants in his greenhouse - including grapes and gojo berries. He says: "The crops are now flourishing and I was amazed at their size compared to previous crops. At the end of the season, when other plants were dying out, they were still going strong."

P. Barker from Brighton used Orgonite to aid his beetroots, which were fast to germinate and grew strongly. He was rigorous in his methodology, planting two identical patches in his allotment - one with Orgonite and one without - and growing organically ( see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpGALwotqc ).

He says: "At first, I was mildly surprised by the different crops. The area was mostly root crops - parsnips and different types of beetroot and some early carrots. The plot with Orgonite at each corner produced a whole lot more than adjacent plots. I ended up giving a lot of my produce away. A major surprise was a crop of self-sown tomatoes in between the beets. Normally I can't get tomatoes to grow outside so this was an unexpected bonus."

Orgonite has also been reported effective at helping ailing plants and trees. In a recent development, Orgonite has been theorised to convert negative energy into positive life-giving energy.

The imminent Orgonite trial builds upon the growing evidence that Orgonite has a real effect on plants, bringing about a massive growth increase. To join the trial, enquire at EcoLogicCool, 46 Sydney Street, Brighton.


- ends -

Notes for editors
About Mark Bennett
Mark Bennett is a respected investigative journalist and photographer covering the fringes of culture and science and contributing features to many publications including 'Fortean Times', 'Skin Two Magazine' and 'i-D', as well as editing his own avant-garde, cyber culture magazine, 'Black Ice'. He has piloted series for both BBC and Channel 4 along with acting as a consultant and camera expert for multiple programmes. He is also an absinthe connoisseur.

* Dr Wilhelm Reich was the subject of 'It Can Be Done' (1999), a short dramatic motion picture by former BBC documentary filmmaker, Jon East, which was nominated for the Silver Lion at the Venice Film Festival.

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[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

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See the mini pyramid hiding in the pot on the right? Those two plants were sprouted at the same time! Which one is doing better, in your opinion?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I sleep very deeply:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4539324722_af8030e5ea_b.jpg

[Awoke]

This has turned out to be one of the most amazing threads to me. I am blown away by the gardening experiment.

Thanks for posting.

[chad]

this is super cool stuff. i'm totally trying all of it.

[Cebu_4_2]

saw/read most of this in places, I think it's great to have a bunch in a one stop thread. I was going to make some cloudbusters but the copper pipes involved were a bit pricey. I liked the idea of being able to point them. (always wondered how to ground them though).

Nocturnal, I'm very interested in testing this organite stuff. Was reading ingredients and to go with the original 'complete' and 'true' recipe I could not find for sale so I stopped the idea.

No clue what my point here is, mind is not working right at the moment....

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

The ingredients are resin, metal, and crystal. The crystal must be piezo-electric. All quartz crystals work, but be aware rock-quartz does not achieve a piezoelectric effect. This means that amythyst, citrine, clear and smokey quartz will all work for you.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4459940754_fdc7e1c584_o.jpg

above: ultra high quality quartz


The Resin and Metal are organic and inorganic. That's 'organic' as in chemistry, not as in food. The organic (carbon-based) is the resin, and the inorganic is the metal. This combination was central to Reich's body of work. These alternating layers, he claimed, drew energy towards them.

I will offer to send out some devices, if somebody wants to try, maybe in a few weeks. I am planning several large pours soon. Maybe you can do some experiments and post them in a thread on the board. It's technically a "Technological Use for Metal" and we have a subforum for that ; )




Something else: do not build a CB (stands for Cloud Buster or Cloud Booster) until you have read about Orgone energy quite fully.


http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/reich%20cloud%20buster.jpghttp://orgonise.com/images/cloud-buster.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

1) Make TBs or HHGs
2) Gift them near sources of microwave, wifi, cellular amplification or broadcast.
3) Grid your home and property. The internet has discovered that the layout/shape of your gridding makes a pretty big difference. However there is no 'wrong' way - just more chaotic and less chaotic ways. . I don't know how to explain it, but you will probably feel what i am talking about. Move them around to get a feel for how they change a room.


I put one on top of my fridge and another inside my fridge. I'm not kidding you, food has been saying fresh a little more than twice as long. I am only left to conclude that orgone/prana/chi/ki/energy is real. Either that, or science has an energetic category it has not yet defined and named.

It is possible to make devices which move clouds around, but it is indeed considered work for someone seasoned.

Just being around things can change your life.

a)orgonite can order the structure of water (observe frozen water demonstrations)
b)we are mostly water
c)orgonite can order our bodies.

[chad]

if you need field testers, i am in!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

(this is a post LordZoma made on the 'Orgonite Experiments: Results! thread; it is 273 pages long so far. I thought I'd share:)


I think that the 50/50 ratio is an example of how to get mid-density orgonite.

The resin is the matrix within which energy can move within the orgonite and passes from metal to the crystal. The metal picks up the ambient electromagnetic energy that reaches it through the open resin which leads to the push pull effect from metal <--> resin that raises the energy in frequency. It's the crystals that help transmute the energy into the ether and further filter and charge the energy with its own energetic signature and emit the energy back into the environment.

When you increase the amount of surface area it means you have a higher metal:resin ratio and so the density of the orgonite increases.

Higher surface area means you will pick up more electromagnetic energy with the metal, and thus have the capability to transmute more DOR into POR but it also has its disadvantages.

Higher density means that it is more difficult for the emf fields / energy to push its way into the orgonite even though it has the capability to draw in more energy.

How can this be useful?

If you are using a powered piece, such as a power wand, you are pumping energy directly into the matrix so there is more than enough to be absorbed. If the higher density piece is sitting next to a powerful antenna, or a power plant or tower, there is much more energy so the energy will push into the orgonite and be transmuted more fully than a mid density piece.

If a high density piece is just sitting in the middle of a suburban house, since the ambient energy is less, it is harder for the energy to push into the piece, and thus less of the energy is going to be picked up than in a mid density piece where it pushes into the matrix and saturates it.


If someone were to use JUST super small pieces of metal, you'd make a higher density, so it would be more powerful to be used for certain applications.

OVERALL I think that balance is important, so I think that the best pieces of orgonite you can make, are ones that have a gradient of clear resin to low density to medium density to high density within the matrix. That way the orgone energy enters the pieces and spirals down into the higher density material where it can be properly transformed.

Imagine a cone. Clear at the top with the density increasing as it gets lower. Throw in a couple spirals of copper or other metal to help spiral the energy into the high density material and you'll really amp up the power of the piece.

Think about it naturally. it's about energy flow. Look at the energy like water. If water smashes against a wall (high density) it is going to splash away and only the outside of the wall gets wet.

If the water is powerful enough it will smash through the wall and get the other side wet (strong energy source + high density).

But if the water is syphoned from large openings down into smaller and smaller chambers, then the water can be completely 100% diverted, turn the pistons and make electricity, then get safely funneled out the other side of the dam. By having a mix of low to high density the energy would be funneled down into the strongest matrix.



I hope this makes sense! and I don't profess to be a super expert, but I have done as much research as I can and to me and reflective of my general understanding of the way energy works, this makes the most sense to me.

INSOFAR as sensei dennis's nano orgonite from orgonecrystals.com, he smashes up crystals and reduces them to nano size and mixes them along with the nano metal. When you're dealing with metal that is so absolutely compressed, the energy would have trouble even making it to the primary crystal and that causes jumpy orgonite. Since nano would most commonly be used for pendants (since the bodies emf field in contact with the material is DEFINITELY strong enough to activate all of it) it is important that the crystals be mixed in with the material.

When I make pieces that use iron oxide, I like to take quartz and crush it up into a fine powder and mix it directly into the resin. I probably don't use enough but I'm sure every little bit helps.

[Awoke]

I will offer to send out some devices, if somebody wants to try, maybe in a few weeks. I am planning several large pours soon. Maybe you can do some experiments and post them in a thread on the board. It's technically a "Technological Use for Metal" and we have a subforum for that ; )


Please count me in. I have 3 raised garden beds and 3 grounded garden beds. I will document the progress and post pictures, etc.

[Neuro]

This has turned out to be one of the most amazing threads to me. I am blown away by the gardening experiment.

Thanks for posting.
I agree. This is just amazing stuff! Does it work on fruit trees as well? Where would you place the device in the tree. At the ground next to the stem or several in the crown?

[Awoke]

I got a response from my buddy I mentioned earlier in this thread.

He said that the information posted here is true, and that you guys are doing a good job revealing the information in this thread, so he will not bother joining GSus and posting. (He's just a forum-kinda-guy)

[uranian]

bumperoo...planning on planting some seeds soon, if you're interested in selling some of the HHGs, nocturnal, drop me a PM as i'd be happier to buy them from you than fleabay. be interesting to see if there's an effect on the 2 huge TV/radio/mobile towers i can see from my window, too.

[striped_bear]

I've just finished making my first HHGs (holy hand grenades). This is my first attempt at making orgonite.

They contain copper plated zinc BBs, copper wire spirals, one has a brass coil, cast iron turnings, amethyst shards, polished hematite stones, and each contains a single terminated lemurian seed quartz crystal in the center.

They work. I can literally feel the energy coming out of them with my hands. My hands get very tingly and hot when passed over them. The same effects I felt from the first HHG I encountered, over 5 years ago.

[uranian]

nice, striped, they remind me of honeycombs. i'm particularly curious to try sprouting some seeds with orgonite, given that the results are so quick. any idea if the stuff loses quality with time? i've got a few HHGs that are around 4 years old, tend to just chuck them under beds and forget about them, but i think i'll have a go at sprouting some seeds with an HHG present and one without.

[striped_bear]

Thanks uranian. As far as I know orgonite does not "expire". I might ask my friend if he still has his HHG that I played with years ago. I bet it still works fine.

[uranian]

will give it a go with mine tomorrow and post results. we eat a fair few sprouts anyway, don't need much of an excuse to make some more :)

[InsurgentWolf]

Thanks uranian. As far as I know orgonite does not "expire". I might ask my friend if he still has his HHG that I played with years ago. I bet it still works fine.


I remember reading about how quartz crystals wear out over time, but if you add kyanite (also a crystal), then it should stay fresh for longer. Could be a myth, since it's not something that is easy to measure, but a lot of gifters really like adding kyanite. Maybe one of the more active gifters here has more info.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Wolf you are correct in your report, Kyanite and Selenite are known for constantly clearing the crystal

It's not that the piezoelectric effect is wearing off from the crystal, you are good in that regard

It is that quartz has an uncanny ability to pick up vibrations and hold them, and when near selenite or kyanite it is forced to constantly be "fresh" and neutral. Otherwise your orgonite will get funky over time, not in a bad way, it will just take on the characteristics of the vibrations around you


Those are really great pieces posted above. I'm getting a good feeling from them, even just from the pics....Striped Bear, is there anyway we could get you to do two tests - freeze a glass of water, take a picture of it, then add orgonite to your freezer, freeze another glass of water with the orgonite right under the water, take a picture of it?

Great work!

[striped_bear]

Wolf you are correct in your report, Kyanite and Selenite are known for constantly clearing the crystal

It's not that the piezoelectric effect is wearing off from the crystal, you are good in that regard

It is that quartz has an uncanny ability to pick up vibrations and hold them, and when near selenite or kyanite it is forced to constantly be "fresh" and neutral. Otherwise your orgonite will get funky over time, not in a bad way, it will just take on the characteristics of the vibrations around you


Those are really great pieces posted above. I'm getting a good feeling from them, even just from the pics....Striped Bear, is there anyway we could get you to do two tests - freeze a glass of water, take a picture of it, then add orgonite to your freezer, freeze another glass of water with the orgonite right under the water, take a picture of it?

Great work!


Excellent idea, I was actually thinking of doing that as well. I will do it some time during the next week (or maybe today) and post my results.

I've never tried an experiment with freezing water.

I would like to mention though that the phenomenon of ice spikes on ice cubes is not by any means rare, and can easily be explained by science. It happens in my freezer all the time sans the presence of orgonite.

[uranian]

well, we're now scoffing the sprouts, and there was a noticeable difference. those with the orgonite sprouted earlier and ended a little bigger. rather unscientific test, so i'm going to try again in a couple of days with a weighed amount of seed, then compare the biomass at the end. given that only 48 hours passed, i'm surprised that there was the difference that there was; surprised too that this actually appeared to work, if it holds up under more rigorous testing, i'm going to start making this stuff and spreading it around locally.

[Cebu_4_2]

I want some of these things! PM me.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Even seeing something like this would excite me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG_ZMoiDzmY&feature=related


Near the end of june, or thereabouts (I have to go out of town before that, for a family emergency) I'll offer to send all board members 6 TBs, or 2TBs and a HHG. I'll make a post about it and there won't be a limit, as long as you ask you'll get some. Free.

Although if you have connections to scrap metal, I seriously need some!


Then once we have our orgonite spread out, we can start discussing the much stronger devices, like powered devices, and proper use of a cloudbooster....

[jaybone]

I made a few at work yesterday, which is in a barren industrial wasteland.

I go to check on them curing in the sun this morning, and what do I see?

A peregrine falcon on the ground about 50' away from me with wings outstretched.
As I walked back into the building, he flew right over my head, it is the best look I have ever had of a bird of prey outside of captivity.

There is something to this.
I mean if spinning a magnet inside some copper can make the lights go on, then how far-fetched is orgonite?

[INDIGO]

This thread is really exciting!!! Thanks Nocturnal Egyptian!

[uranian]

agreed, indigo. i bought some HHGs a few years back after having read about reich's work, and have just had them collecting dust under beds ever since, on the basis that it couldn't hurt, at least. silly of me not to have thought about this sprouting way of testing them, specially as i'd seen those pics of plants going "yaaaay!" when next to the stuff before.

[jaybone]

Found some shavings on fleabay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/80-20-Inc-Aluminum-SHAVINGS-Sold-Per-Pound_W0QQitemZ370383968019QQcategoryZ42905QQcmdZV iewItemQQ_trksidZp3286.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26 itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3 D8258934509711360902

he has fine powder ones too.

I've been drilling some scrap aluminum and copper, but after burning through a few drill bits, ebay is more economical.
I'm going to try some locksmiths for key shavings.
I also put doubled up aluminum foil through a crosscut paper shredder, lots of surface area but not much mass.

Seems consensus is that 50/50 resin/metal mix is good, but I'm not clear if that is volume or weight, which would make a huge difference.

I also learned that you can thin out bondo body filler with the more liquid-y fiberglass resin so it will pour, I just used the bondo cream hardener on it alone.
My pieces have a creepy flesh color to them, LOL
But I wanted to try a few with some bondo I had around before putting any more $ into it.

[uranian]

tried again with 30.0g of dry mung beans. after approx. 60 hours, the seed without orgonite weighed 79.7g, while that with orgonite weighed 95.8g, approx. 20% more. you can see the difference in the volume in the pics below. conclusion, this stuff does actually work, so i'm going to start making it now for use with growing plants, and to spread around mobile towers locally. thanks nocturnal for re-igniting my interest in the good dr. reich.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Bump cuz this thread is too damn cool. 8)

[Libertytree]

Appreciate the bump! Somehow I missed this thread....more research!

Stupid question? Is this in any way related to the Power Core bracelets I see people wearing?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Those power-balance bracelets people wear, I haven't done any testing on them, zip, nada, zero, but I know the theory behind them.

The theory is that holograms can hold a vibration, much like a crystal. So they input an allegedly beneficial frequency into the little hologram on the bracelet, and then by being in close contact with it all the time, your body slowly "normalizes" to that frequency.

I see people wearing them, and I always make it a point to ask if they help at all. Most people say "kinda" and I haven't gotten any negative responses about them yet, but I also haven't heard any RAVE reviews about it changing lives...I also haven't seen any meditators or yoga practitioners wearing them.


What I like about orgonite is you can get the same results but you can make it yourself.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Another Orgonite Sprout Experiment:
by
http://subtleenergyresearch.blogspot.com/

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The experiment to test this basically consists of two glass bowls filled with porous stones that can absorb and hold water. As plants I used ordinary garden cress seeds. Each bowl contains approximately 100 of them. I sprayed them with ordinary tab water to start the germination.

Now to the Orgonite. The left bowl contains a block of ordinary Orgonite (resin, aluminium and brass) while the other does not. In order to prevent the fields from the Orgonite to influence the seeds in the right bowl I kept a security distance of 1 meter during the growing process. (I only brought them close to each other to take the pictures.)


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4926773136_02264a562c.jpg

Assembly of the experiment: orgonite block, two glass bowls filled with water holding stones and cress seeds.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4926177013_06a3f6d388.jpg

The Orgonite block: Weight: 250grams, height: 5cm, width: 7,5cm

Used materials: (aluminium, brass, resin, quartz, rose quartz, some other minerals). The block is a solid compound and does not contain any nutrients that could be utilized by the sprouts.

2 Days From Start:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4683367676_9af4bb8e2b.jpg

The seeds in the Orgonite bowl have already begun to sprout.

5 Days From Start:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4926830562_e02c600163_z.jpg

The difference is quite drastic. Keep in mind that the Orgonite block is made from resin and metal. It does not contain any substance that could have acted as a chemical fertilizer of some sort.

Sprouts w/o Orgonite, 5 days:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4683439216_a395873a77.jpg

The bowl without the Orgonite only produced poor looking sprouts and only a small percentage of the seeds grew at all.

Sprouts with Orgonite, 5 days:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1266/4682821861_a05143300e.jpg

The Orgonite sprouts look better, taste better and have grown taller as well as quicker than the sprouts in the control group.





Conclusion

The effect is obvious and drastic. The question that remains is how is it possible. My personal theory is that plants do not only live from sunlight, water and minerals but that there are other forms of energy as well which can be utilized by them. Orgonite might be a source of such a form of energy. Consequently plants that grow in proximity to Orgonite will grow faster and have increased vitality.

Orgonite might also be beneficial for the human bio-system, but that demands more experiments to be done.

[MNeagle]

Power Balance Wristband Claims Not Backed by Science, Company Admits


Power Balance bracelets, touted by sports luminaries such as Shaquille O’Neal for how they improve strength and flexibility, have been exposed as being nothing more than a rubber bracelet, writes The Associated Press (AP).

According to Australian officials, Power Balance, which is located in California, should not be advertising the bracelets as being able to offer increased power, and other claims, said the AP. The firm agreed, saying, “We admit that there is no credible scientific evidence that supports our claims,” said Power Balance, quoted the AP. Power Balance has also agreed to refund its customers.
The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) prompted Power Balance to admit its claims are false and to offer refunds to customers who feel they have been cheated, said the Herald Sun. Known customers include Benji Marshall, Cristiano Ronaldo, Brendan Fevola, and Shaquille O’Neal, said the Herald Sun and Lamar Odom, David Beckham, Robert De Niro, Russell Crowe, and Gerard Butler, according to the AP.

In response to the global outcry, the company has issued statements that the AP notes swirl around the word “admit,” such as, “Power Balance Admits products have been worn during the last world series, NBA finals, and super bowl champions!”

Power Balance had previously made claims that the product improved balance, strength, and flexibility via its “holographic technology” that would disperse energy throughout the body, said the Herald Sun. Many agreed. “Our trainers swear by it,” Phoenix Suns forward Jared Dudley wrote on his Twitter page, quoted the AP.

The bracelets were introduced in 2007 and sell for $29.95 each, said the AP, which noted that Power Balance sold $8,000 its first year and believes that figure will exceed $35 million in for 2010.

Power Balance says it relies on testimonials, not science, according to spokesman Adam Selwyn, said the AP. Power Balance pays athletes to use their images wearing the bracelets, it said, wrote the AP. Josh Rodarmel, a Power Balance co-founder, said in a statement “We’re not trying to win over every person in the world,” quoted the AP.

“Consumers should be wary of other similar products on the market that make unsubstantiated claims, when they may be no more beneficial than a rubber band,” ACCC head Graeme Samuel said, quoted the Herald Sun.

On its web site, Power Balance runs a video footage of athletes who are showing the benefits of the bands by standing with their arms extended while resisting pressure both with and without the bands, said the AP.

A Wisconsin professor ran similar tests with 42 athletes wearing the Power Balance wristbands and silicon versions purchased at Wal-Mart; said the AP. The tests revealed no difference between the two products.

“I think it is a scam,” said John Porcari, professor of exercise and sport science at University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. “It has absolutely nothing to do with the bracelets. It is all in people’s heads,” quoted the AP.

http://www.newsinferno.com/consumer-fraud/power-balance-wristband-claims-not-backed-by-science-company-admits/

[Libertytree]

Here's the reason I bring this up...A couple months ago two guys came into the store wearing these bracelets and began a conversation about them, I had never seen them before and then they start their sales pitch, now I'm skeptical as all hell. They ask me if I wanted to take a "test" with them about their virtue, I said ok. I put my arms out horizontally to the sides and he pushed down on them, quite easily and then I put a bracelet on and he did it again, but with much more resistance. The second test involved me putting my arms behind me finger locked together and forced down enough to make me lose my balance drastically. I did it with the bracelet and I couldn't be budged!

I'm still skeptical as hell but then again I haven't explored argonite either.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Are you still looking for metal shavings, and, which metals are you looking for? I might have regular access to some in the next week or two.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Are you still looking for metal shavings, and, which metals are you looking for? I might have regular access to some in the next week or two.


Yes I am, Copper, Titanium, Brass, are my most sought after metals. Steel and aluminum work great too. Turnings or shavings work the best. If you have these, please PM me, and we will work out purchase or barter. I can send some orgonite back to you when I am done, as well.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Sensei constructs a Kirlian Photography Unit and tests Orgonite on it


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Having made a number of orgonite samples with different compositions, we set about taking Kirilian pictures of each.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5055814908_5c075473dc.jpg

Aluminum, regular sized shavings.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5055199037_4883dec845.jpg

Aluminum, fine , small shavings
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5055815788_1dd9feee98.jpg

Brass, large shavings
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5055241493_d8597fbb1d.jpg

Brass, Shavings Fine
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5055197549_0549752ebb.jpg

Copper , Large shavings
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5055277031_d7f5f4a2a1.jpg

Copper, Fine particles (A very strong player )
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/5055241723_9f6a1dafab.jpg

Gold.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5055827908_c8c20db996.jpg

Titanium.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5055198299_2d4d1660bb.jpg

Bismuth. (A pleasant surprise !)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5055816384_e55d872a10.jpg

Nano Iron and Nano Crystals.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5055276923_466b8a9263.jpg



"Plasterite" Using plaster of paris with crystals - no metals
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5055828390_09dd1f998a.jpg

NO out put of life force detected from the plasterite...so I put my finger on the plate next to the sample to make sure the Kirilian unit was working.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5055816650_f9b87d1202.jpg
Yup , working fine.


Sєηѕєι

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Kirlian photography of a normal towerbuster, much like what I send to the board members a few months ago:

http://lenarocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/resize_img4cb0800e61139.jpg

And some inspirational pieces, for no other reason than I like them. These were made by a gifter in puerto rico. Nice coil work with the copper wire, and good use of pigments in the resin.

http://api.ning.com/files/6z8IzjTweEYdYdR5L3e1*dkqZVBJLvhamCrmLO--GKSFkf3V0IuuWl374oUxDrdZ-4PXWM0QTsHgitMMHK3mKddLEaYERd8L/hhgtbb.jpg


http://api.ning.com/files/CVCdl*UbdTL84zyuE0UP6YacxTuH1XLDmkYd6H-ShU7wWV2s9qq9TseaiJixM7g*1moi363ZIKjtvhR3FPs7mDFb3 6*nQ-S0/orgonitasgg.jpg


http://api.ning.com/files/JcL1zwupe9Xg8ecybSCbGyTQqvk5UzjXir2uPgfVsZAw79sPyu yGmnkRoKL8ccX-kS2sZ75deILlWnUqyHtebkiIpjW3mUGD/orgonhhg.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/FyJow1OZVnIl2G2*Ne5zmS0cRJZEGO3CmRqA4srTkpEv8xDLbW 7ZC0LD0eaxU8ZuYTnQfan5FGb3K95NQjKSfD-fWxOg9WIl/hhgtop.jpg

[Libertytree]

Couple of questions....How does one go about buying these? Are there small personal versions?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Yeah check out it out...It relaly makes a huge difference when entering an area with a lot of electrosmog...
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s42/XIxZer0xIX/1-3.jpg

Gold, Lapis Lazuli, Iron, Watermelon Tourmaline, Quartz

(That picture is six months old, it looks totally different now...)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/4054199200_e9ede8e02e.jpg

Iron, Lapis Lazuli, Blue Kyanite, Quartz


Or as a nice pocket piece...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/3962892471_4e6a5fede8.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/3039792784_0de6a5af2d.jpg

Copper : )

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Or if you want the really strong stuff...


How about....

Get this...

Quartz crystal, wrap it with insulated copper wire, this will be your broadcaster:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4665570611_27de897cd7.jpg

Purloin an OtterBox, Make a mixture of nano-iron, quartz crystals ground special in a lab to nano size, submerge the crystal in it, then add gold foil generously. Iron/Gold == Strong energy

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4665570599_f24395c4d4.jpg

Gold is an very unique and unparalleled metal for orgonite, and the extreme surface area of the nano sized iron particles, with nano quartz in it, you can achieve a VERY strong orgonite field. (nano ground quartz is to a achieve a uniform piezoelectric effect, as the nanoiron is very very dense...nano metal also requires 4x more chemical catalyst than normal orgonite.)


Take the leads from your coilwork on the crystal, add in line a frequency generator, then a 9v battery. Here you see a crystal that is being pulsed at 15Hz.

This device is strong. I think I have a testimony from a master yogi somewhere - he was sent a different but similar device and his payment was to describe his insights on how the device acted on the human body in meditation.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4665592629_af2ef7ce75.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Btw I have to apologize to the guys to whom I sent orgonite

Those aren't even full strength

They work, but I found a few which I didn't send out and the resin didn't soak through all the way on some parts. I should have poured in layers since that metal was pretty fine. This might of resulted in not nearly enough mass of the TB being "true orgonite"

Hey we're all students...

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Let's take a break...

http://all4women.co.za/files.php?file=photos/gemstones_916825317.jpg

http://ny-image1.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.82493925.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/h2tn50c3M6wDcwNPDWxM4O-PU6GXar8xBm0EgYEKl3IFl3FWKCUl5q1Vs8Kt*0Q5gt6ZPU-rZSd431CHj7AEwRBbwX3ybitUWVzs32reHR0_/SelenitePeak4inch002.JPG

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Let's get back to it : )

This particular device, you use by holding the copper leads.


http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3351&dateline=1308161065
Shredded metal is inside the coilwork, the whole thing is regular resin, and clearly you can see the big quartz crystal pointing out of it.
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'LITTLE SECRET DEVICE' OBSERVATIONS

http://www.seaorgonite.com/images/lsdeviceimage.jpg


In December 2008 I was contacted by a man named Stefan Cunnington who presented himself as a Yoga Teacher,
focusing on development of the internal energy centres (chakras).

Mr. Cunnington was interested in using orgonite for this practice and he asked if I knew of any specific devices for this purpose.
I first sent him one complimentary Little Secret Device asking in return for his observations.
A week after having received it, he dutily responded with a list of detailed observations of its effect.
The feedback was surprisingly positive but he questioned if two devices would be more effective than one.
I sent a second device to him in time for Christmas and he again dutily responded a few weeks later,
again with detailed observations, all of positive nature.

I am including his observations here for those who are interested in learning more of The Little Secret Device´s effect on the human energy body,
and also to get a glimpse of how you can use it effectively on your self.

Stefan has his own webpage which you can visit here:

www.esotericyoga.co.uk

It is with much appreciation I share the following information:



Part 1, (using one device):



Dear Cesco,

Once again, thank you for the little secret device. It's been a real pleasure using it over the last few days.
I've put down some of the benefits I felt from the use of the device.
Until now, I have found that there are a series of benefits from the simple fact of holding the device(passive), but also the fact that the benefits are more spectacular if I actively use one yoga technique or another (dynamic) while holding the device.

1. I found that the little secret device has an intense effect, but without being overwhelming.

2. The device seems to have an amplifying effect. I can feel how from the first seconds of use how my chakras and some of the main channels of energy start to increase their flow of energy. After a period of time, the tendency of the amplifying effect tends to reach a plateau.

3. Throughout its use the device generates a purification process. As the energies are purifying I can feel how the specific vibrations become
more and more refined. I gave the device to one of my students, and I could feel how the energy of that person in front of me was changing its vibration.
She was quite impressed and mentioned that she would like a device like this!
On that occasion, a cat came by and we couldn't convince the cat to leave- she was magnetized by the person who had the device;
when I took the device back I became the target of her interest!
Lovely to see how the animal was instinctively attracted by the energy of the device!

4. It also produces an effect of harmonizing- on more than one level- energetic, emotional and mental level.
I feel more balanced and more centred and grounded after the use of the device.

5. Maybe as a result of this harmonizing effect, I found that it seems to create an improved connection between different parts of the aura.
After a period of using the device in a passive mode, I started using the device during pranayama (the yoga practice aiming to enhance and control
prana/orgone using various breathing exercises). I had a couple of surprises. One of them was the fact that, as I worked (on the third eye),
the changes that I was producing on that chakra seemed to reflect automatically as changes on the other chakras. Usually, the changes that occur on
other levels are not as apparent, only after a period of time. It is something I would like to study in order to discover how this works.
With the experience I have until now, it feels as if it creates a better link or connection between parts of the energy body.

6. While the energy is amplifying and purifying I found that there is an increased control over the energy. There are techniques to move energy from
inferior chakras to superior ones (utkshepana) and from superior ones to inferior ones (apakshepana), and also general transfer of energy from
one area to another. Using the device, I found that these techniques were not only easier to perform but performed with greater precision
(I feel it is easier - when I use the device- to move the energy upwards as opposed to downwards- for some reason).

7. I found that it helps create an easy access to subtle energies, particularly energies that are above the head (above the crown chakra/Sahashrara)
and under the body (under Muladhara/the base chakra).
I can feel the energies spiralling and creating a more dense yet refined energy body.
The energy body seems to keep its integrity and level of vibration very well for quite some time after the meditation is over.

8. What I found surprising is the fact that the changes that occur while using the device seem to happen effortlessly.
Meditation feels like a natural process of sliding into a state of deep relaxation, like I am drawn into it. I hope this makes sense.
It becomes very easy to access states of meditation; particularly spaces of consciousness on deep blue (with a smoky note) or a very beautiful violet.

9. It helps to give greater clarity of perception. It makes it very easy to feel the energies around the body and aspects that sometimes I tend
not to pay much attention to such as the energies emanating from and to the toes.
I presume this is due to the fact that the energy is purifying and increasing in intensity.

10. I think that for the user of this device, it has a therapeutic effect.
The first time I used it, I experienced a process of purification on the level of the solar plexus chakra, which in my case seems to be comparatively weaker
than the other ones. It was as though a knot was preventing the free flow of energy at that level compared with the other chakras.
It was making me feel a bit nauseous and sensitive to the smell of the device. After the third use, the solar plexus chakra felt great.
There is no reaction or restriction of the energy flowing through.As a result of the movement of energy, I also felt a purifying process along the
Stomach Meridian, on the lateral sides of the legs, below the knees, and a couple of points along the Gall Bladder Meridian.
It would be fascinating to see its effects on somebody who suffers from the so-called Kundalini Syndrome.
From what I can feel until now, it could provide a solution (in this form or an adapted form) for situations like that.

When we spoke about the device, I expected a tool that will have some benefits regarding the meditation, but the experience I had with the device
was a lot more than what I expected. I think that it is a great tool to use for meditation. I am quite happy with the device because as the meditation and the practice was focused on one specific aspect, the device was also doing its work of energizing and purifying and harmonizing and connecting things in
the aura on many levels. I think that is great. Very efficient!

I remember the first time when the device arrived at home I kept the device in my left hand (my breathing was predominately active on the left nostril at the time, and the energy is more intense and moves easier on the side of the body where the breathing is predominant); but as the process of energizing was going on, I considered that I don't really want to activate the left/sensitive, Yin side of the aura too much and I moved the device to the right palm; but after a while, I could feel that the device tends to increase the side of the aura where it is held; there is a clear tendency to activate predominantly that side of the aura.
This is why I used the device by holding it with both hands. I think that for the people who use the device for meditation purposes,
it wouldn't be recommended to only keep the device in one hand all the time but in both, or at least to alternate.
What is your perception about this aspect?
I imagine it would be better to work with 2 of the devices- one in each hand.
This would not only balance the energy but would probably be a lot stronger in its effect.

I am starting to use the ray of energy coming from the tip of the crystal when working with chakras. I will let you know what I feel.
If I project the energy in the column of energy above the head, it activates the energy in the column not just above the head but also linking
deep into the ground. This is indeed a beautiful tool! After only a few days its vibration feels so familiar!

I love it!

Thank you Cesco.

Stefan



Part 2 (using two devices):



Dear Cesco,


A few months back when I held the first piece of orgonite in my hand - I found out later that its called a Tower Buster-
I was intrigued by its effects on my energy. It was a very simple piece that looked like a stone.

However, when I received the first Little Secret Device from you, I was really surprised with the benefits that came from simply holding it while
relaxing or, even better, while meditating, doing Pranayama or other energy work.

When I received the second device from you, I could feel that the energy of the devices is noticeably different. The first one that I received is strong but very subtle; the second one feels a bit more robust. It seems to have a slightly increased strength compared with the first one. Maybe it is because of the crystals inside them.

Using two devices, one in each hand, seems to have a much more intense effect on the energy.
There is an even more pronounced ability to access energy without any effort. What used to take quite a bit of time is now taking noticeably less time.
There is a much more pronounced harmonizing effect. There is no tendency of the energy to activate too much on one side of the aura was the case when
using one device in one hand only. That aspect was easily resolved by holding the single device with both hands. Now, because I can point one device
(the tip of the crystal) upwards and one downwards, in a slight angle towards the column of energy connecting high above and deep below,
the harmonizing effect is excellent.

The clarity of perceptions has increased as well as the ability to control the energy. I am using the devices for some time now and I can say that when I
do my practice using the devices, the perceptions are much clearer and a lot sharper. When I use them, I can spend a lot more time in deep states of
meditation and a lot less time getting there.

Because the devices have a very particular vibration, even hours after I have finished my work on a chakra, that chakra still carries that quality. The other chakras would have my type of energy but the one that I have worked on will feel slightly different.

I can feel the burning energy radiating from the tip of the crystals inside the aura. During the meditation, as the awareness of the physical body is altering
and becoming more and more diffuse, on two occasions I could feel a burning, uncomfortable sensation in one of the legs- when I opened my eyes I
noticed that the crystal of the device I was holding and using for the grounding energy had moved and was pointing through the leg towards the energy
column. I now make sure that the hands are arranged in such a manner that they won't move as I relax. I find it very useful to point the devices towards
the level I am operating on, but not close to the body, and usually in an angle. This seems to help with the energy work without any inconvenience.

The aspects regarding the connection between various parts of the energy system are still very clear.
I don't just work on a chakra- everything in the aura is changing. I don't just work on the grounding effect - the rest of my energy reacts immediately.
One of the most important benefits of the devices is the ease with which I can work with energy.
There is no effort. Up to a point, the Little Secret Devices seem to take me there effortlessly.

From a personal point of view, I think that these devices are excellent tools. I believe that some of the effects will vary for different people,
depending on the condition of their energy. I introduced orgonite to a few people and I found that it reacts almost immediately, even when the perceptions
are not existent or less developed for the person holding the device. Many times when more people were present and some of the people there had energy
perceptions they could feel how the energy is changing in its vibration and quality and the expansion of the energy, even if the person who was
holding the device couldn't feel more that the fact that it *feels good*.

Dear Cesco, I would like to take this possibility and say thank you for these two devices.
I am very happy to use them and they are now an integrated part of my practice.

All the best

Stefan

http://www.materiaetherica.com/device.html

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Did I post this yet?

THE OBELISK

http://www.orgonix23.com/Images/4Skywalker/DSCN6369.JPGhttp://www.orgonix23.com/Images/6skywalker/DSC011651.jpghttp://www.orgonix23.com/Images/DSC042621.jpg



http://www.orgonix23.com/Images/5Mirror/DSC01462.JPG

Internet says: Food and drink left near orgonite tastes better. Try it!

http://www.orgonix23.com/Images/lgwine.JPG

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Is there a noticeable difference between using the various metals within the orgonite devices?

I'm interested in orgonite with silver as the metal given its unique properties.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Yes, each metal has a "personality" so to speak, just as a copper bracelet makes you feel differently than a silver bracelet, and both are different from a gold bracelet, these "personalities" are amplified in orgonite.

Copper and Gold, Brass, Aluminum, Steel, Titanium, Chromium, Bismuth - I've used all these.

I haven't tried silver yet.

One of my friends on another board says he tried silver, and got extremely negative results. However, I believe that a positive piece of orgonite containing silver can be constructed. I do have some ideas that I want to test in the future.

I'm thinking of including some Silver as well as some Tektites (Glass from outer space, fallen to earth as a meteor)

I will definitely post to this thread when I accomplish that.


Later this month, I will also have a new necklace to show you - Bismuth as the metal, with orange sapphires and Danburite from Africa. It's going to, excuse my language, kick major ass.


As I move away from aluminum as my main metal, and more into the "rare earth" metals and stones, I am noticing a difference in the energy

The base metals, aluminum, steel, these activate my lower chakras, mostly 1-4, they're really good at grounding and protection

The rare earth metals are better at the upper 3 chakras, throat, pineal, and crown, they're a lot better at expansion, freedom, exploration


I have found only ONE metal which does not accomplish the job of protection from EMF...It's lead...Do not use lead. Everything else...works so far.

I will always share information as I become aware of it

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

DMarion's work and results:



http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/MetaFUNCTIONAL%202010/DSC02153.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/MetaFUNCTIONAL%202010/DSC02248.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/MetaFUNCTIONAL%202010/DSC02236.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/MetaFUNCTIONAL%202010/DSC02215.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/MetaFUNCTIONAL%202010/DSC02188.jpg


http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/Ice%20tests/DSC02335.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/Ice%20tests/DSC02338.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/Ice%20tests/DSC02336.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/Ice%20tests/DSC02337.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/Ice%20tests/DSC02365.jpg

[Bullion_Bob]

So the theory is all the stray EM waves created by cell phone towers, wi-fi etc is detrimentally affecting plants, and people, etc..

White noise contains all these frequencies, is naturally occurring in the universe, and has been around long before any technology, or plants, and mankind for that matter. Plants and man developed under these white noise conditions.

I would like to see if seeds grown in a faraday cage would show any variations.

[gunDriller]

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/metaFunctional/MetaFUNCTIONAL%202010/DSC02153.jpg

well, they're pretty.

that alone can have a calming effect on the mind.

where does the blue come from - is that from the copper ?

[optionT]

What kind of energy does gold emit?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

He's using gold foil, copper, aluminum, and iron powder - four metals.

The blue/green/purple tints are resin tints, probably purchased from www.uscomposites.com along with the simlar 41 waterclear resin he is using. Since the resin is clear, it takes on the color of the metal around it, but many of those pieces have tints included in the resin as well.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

What kind of energy does gold emit?


Gold is hard to explain. It's one of the best, if not the best, metal to use for personal pieces. It's almost wasted in the field, since aluminum, brass, and other base metals resonate better with the tech such as towers, etc. But for human companion pieces, it's an excellent metal.

It's a strong, fierce but gentle energy that is just a bit sweet and smooth unlike any other metal. I really don't know how to explain it. Try holding a steel penny in your hand, then switch to holding a gold coin, then imagine that feeling amplified. So far, I have been very impressed with gold's performance as an "Accent Metal", I don't have enough to make it a "Main Metal" in any pieces.

I have a picture around here somewhere that will help explain this a little bit. brb.

Edit:

There are generally three methods used to evaluate orgonite visually. They are not related to eachother. The third is an ice test, which has been discussed in previous posts.

One is Kirlian photography, which measures voltages in objects. The other is aura photography. Kirlian Photography is legit. "Aura Photography" is less so and while I don't lend a ton of credence to its validity, it is still a useful barometer for broad measurements. The reason I say that Aura Photography is not legit is that it is very easy to influence - breathing exercises as well as mental exercises can drastically change the output. Kirlian photography simply measures voltages of whichever object is being photographed (involves a sensor plate) so that is obviously a more solid barometer of activity.

Below I provide examples of both methods, with and without orgonite.

Here is Sensei Dennis, with no Orgonite around - AURA:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/3261522420_854e617632.jpg

Sensei Dennis 10 minutes later with Orgonite containing gold in his lap - AURA:
Holding this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3260652593_25d5361451.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3261523186_2ef5e33097.jpg


Now Holding this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3260652597_e80cfe28d2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3260695623_78d861228e.jpg


Here is Dennis, no orgonite - KIRLIAN:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4894470356_e90c38e87f.jpg

Dennis, with Orgonite - KIRLIAN:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4894470440_16545168ba.jpg

[milehi]

NE, the resin pigments can be purchased at most surfshops that carry resin and glass for board repairs.

[Bullion_Bob]

A simple way to test the effectiveness of this is to put one of these things within a few feet of a portable radio antenna. If it doesn't scramble the signal, and knock out reception, it's not really doing anything.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

There is an army of people doing just that - leaving orgonite near towers, and any source of wifi, infrared. Also near any power infrastructure in general.

There are websites the size of this one where all they talk about is going out and doing this.

I don't really know how to condense their experiences for everyone here, but there have been many many confirmations. Site visits by crewmembers within minutes or hours of orgonite placement at gifting sites, as well as fly overs, many reports of helicopters, and more recently, several people on the Internet have reported planes with large antenna like drums on them - portable EMF generator planes - harassing them if they place too much orgonite too obviously! The strongest confirmations have been experienced and logged (and posted with pictures at other forums) when gifters would penetrate deep into EMF infrastructure, tower sites and cell arrays, and leave many pieces of orgonite gridding the entire site. Sometimes rain will start to fall within 20 minutes of gifting, and other times the sky will go from cloudy to cleared up, very quickly. Crews come within 24 hours if you gift thoroughly on a high value broadcaster/relay tower or site. Anecdotally reported by MANY at www.warriormatrix.com try running a search there on 'confirmation pics' or 'TPTB harassment fly over'

[Awoke]

I have a friend that gifted all the towers in our city (at least all the ones he could find and access) and he had some harrassment flyovers with black choppers.
No shit.

He stopped.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Some of those orgonite pyramids are huge. Where does one find a pyramid mold that large?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

The bigger molds, people just make them out of sheet metal or wood. Also folks get them from candle making supply stores and baking stores, these places have most everything affordably. The best molds are silicon, because they take heat up to ~550 and are easy to remove the orgonite after it is set. Then glass and metal are both decent but tough to work with. Teflon coated muffin pans work great for the small 3oz. pucks. A lot of people use party hats as a mold for the cone shape. There is a hard type of plastic cup on the market which is very cheap and one can pour many many 'Towerbusters' in an afternoon by filling these cups, say about halfway. One person made a huge blaster by filling a traffic cone. Also, there is a type of 'pour your own' mold-making silicon which will set up in any shape physically achievable.

For my first molds, I went to the .99 cent store and purchased glass wine glasses. They made decent orgonite, and I broke several of the glasses finishing the project. Next, I tried teflon muffin pans, and my catelyst measurement was better that time, and 80% of the TB's shrank enough to pop out of the muffin pan. Hint, making the pan cold for 20 min (I used ice) lets them loose.

I suggest getting a durable, easy to work with mold the first time, although disposable molds are really cool too. You might need wax paper or lubricant spray to get your orgonite out of the disposable mold, depending. Silicon spray works so does WD-40 although it tends to leave little pockmarks on the finished product, still decent stuff.

Yes I honestly feel an output from these devices in 'passive' mode.

But they are something else entirely if you go out and put well made orgonite next to a cell phone tower. A glib explanation of what happens is that the natural order returns locally in the gifted area, and the evil empire takes notice.

An area is not gifted unless you have placed orgonite near all the towers in an area.

What are they broadcasting?

You, too, can melt fake clouds

http://911mockingbird.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/strange_clouds1.jpg

[Bullion_Bob]

There is an army of people doing just that - leaving orgonite near towers, and any source of wifi, infrared. Also near any power infrastructure in general.

There are websites the size of this one where all they talk about is going out and doing this.

I don't really know how to condense their experiences for everyone here, but there have been many many confirmations. Site visits by crewmembers within minutes or hours of orgonite placement at gifting sites, as well as fly overs, many reports of helicopters, and more recently, several people on the Internet have reported planes with large antenna like drums on them - portable EMF generator planes - harassing them if they place too much orgonite too obviously! The strongest confirmations have been experienced and logged (and posted with pictures at other forums) when gifters would penetrate deep into EMF infrastructure, tower sites and cell arrays, and leave many pieces of orgonite gridding the entire site. Sometimes rain will start to fall within 20 minutes of gifting, and other times the sky will go from cloudy to cleared up, very quickly. Crews come within 24 hours if you gift thoroughly on a high value broadcaster/relay tower or site. Anecdotally reported by MANY at www.warriormatrix.com try running a search there on 'confirmation pics' or 'TPTB harassment fly over'




I mean a small portable hand held radio. If it can't knock out that signal, it's not doing anything.

Putting anything passive on the ground near a radio tower for sure won't do anything at all.

I know a bit about electronics, and have made my own AM and FM transmitters, and various amplifiers, from the component level up. Suffice to say I understand how waves are propagated through the air, and in what amplitidues.

If you tell me when one of these things is put near a small telescopic antenna on your radio, in your house, the radio signal is knocked out, I would be extremely surprised, especially FM.

[chad]

nocturnal egyptian actually sent me a box of these he made. we put them all over the house. i can say for a fact they cause the bars on both my wife + i's iphone to go down when they are in the house. if i put them all in a box and move them outside, i have 5 bars on the phone. if i scatter them all around the house, i have 3 bars. i have no idea what is at work, but i have tried this experiment 3 times with the same results. :dunno

[sirgonzo420]

I just now read through this thread and although I tend to be skeptical, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested!


I'd like to try some experiments myself....

Nocturnal, if you have any you want to get rid of, I'd buy some just to play with.

[Bullion_Bob]

nocturnal egyptian actually sent me a box of these he made. we put them all over the house. i can say for a fact they cause the bars on both my wife + i's iphone to go down when they are in the house. if i put them all in a box and move them outside, i have 5 bars on the phone. if i scatter them all around the house, i have 3 bars. i have no idea what is at work, but i have tried this experiment 3 times with the same results. :dunno


I would have to see this to believe it. Going on that premise, you should be able to put one, or a few right next to the phone, and have the bars disappear, and it would be consistent.

Ironically the resin reduces the electrical conductivity of the metal inside of it, which would lessen the effect of the metal to have an association with the surrounding air, and any electromagnetic particles/waves flowing through it.

[chad]

nocturnal egyptian actually sent me a box of these he made. we put them all over the house. i can say for a fact they cause the bars on both my wife + i's iphone to go down when they are in the house. if i put them all in a box and move them outside, i have 5 bars on the phone. if i scatter them all around the house, i have 3 bars. i have no idea what is at work, but i have tried this experiment 3 times with the same results. :dunno


I would have to see this to believe it. Going on that premise, you should be able to put one, or a few right next to the phone, and have the bars disappear, and it would be consistent.

Ironically the resin reduces the electrical conductivity of the metal inside of it, which would lessen the effect of the metal to have an association with the surrounding air, and any electromagnetic particles/waves flowing through it.




i've tried putting a bunch of them right next to the phone, doesn't do anything. i also tried the radio thing, doesn't do anything either. but the bars definitely do go down if i scatter all of them throughout the house. weird, eh?

[Bullion_Bob]

nocturnal egyptian actually sent me a box of these he made. we put them all over the house. i can say for a fact they cause the bars on both my wife + i's iphone to go down when they are in the house. if i put them all in a box and move them outside, i have 5 bars on the phone. if i scatter them all around the house, i have 3 bars. i have no idea what is at work, but i have tried this experiment 3 times with the same results. :dunno


I would have to see this to believe it. Going on that premise, you should be able to put one, or a few right next to the phone, and have the bars disappear, and it would be consistent.

Ironically the resin reduces the electrical conductivity of the metal inside of it, which would lessen the effect of the metal to have an association with the surrounding air, and any electromagnetic particles/waves flowing through it.




i've tried putting a hunch of them right next to th phone, doesn't do anything. i also tried the radio thing, doesn't do anything either. but the bars definitely do go down if i scatter all of them throughout the house. weird, eh?


Very. I'll have to look into how this works. I have one of those zap checkers http://www.zapchecker.com/zc270.html maybe I'll play around with this theory at some point.

[gunDriller]

nocturnal egyptian actually sent me a box of these he made. we put them all over the house. i can say for a fact they cause the bars on both my wife + i's iphone to go down when they are in the house. if i put them all in a box and move them outside, i have 5 bars on the phone. if i scatter them all around the house, i have 3 bars. i have no idea what is at work, but i have tried this experiment 3 times with the same results. :dunno


once i worked at a company that made microwave instruments, including "loads" - devices that absorb microwave energy.

the energy-absorbing part was iron powder mixed into epoxy, shaped in a mold.

actually, the plastic things with the metal in them might have similar physics - they absorb radio wave energy ... and as a by-product, they heat up.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

nocturnal egyptian actually sent me a box of these he made. we put them all over the house. i can say for a fact they cause the bars on both my wife + i's iphone to go down when they are in the house. if i put them all in a box and move them outside, i have 5 bars on the phone. if i scatter them all around the house, i have 3 bars. i have no idea what is at work, but i have tried this experiment 3 times with the same results. :dunno


once i worked at a company that made microwave instruments, including "loads" - devices that absorb microwave energy.

the energy-absorbing part was iron powder mixed into epoxy, shaped in a mold.

actually, the plastic things with the metal in them might have similar physics - they absorb radio wave energy ... and as a by-product, they heat up.


Cool verification, thank you!

Iron Powder and Epoxy is basically orgonite. Epoxy = Organic and Iron = Inorganic. The quartz crystal is added because it makes the device more efficient (has a higher turn over) but the orgonite would work without the crystal.

Also the Air Force's RADAR-Defeating paint is nano-metal mixed into a proprietary ceramic. Same concept.

You can make orgonite from almost anything as long as it is alternating layers of organic/inorganic material. Organic like chemistry, not like food. Organic == Carbon-based. Inorganic == Non-Carbon-based.

Quartz Crystals are piezoelectric and resin shrinks when it cures, the shrinking creates mechanical stress on the crystal which generates a voltage potential which innervates or clears the energy from the device.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Wilhelm Reich stumped Einstein when he showed him his early prototypes.

By the way, Reich did not make orgonite as we do - he made boxes that an individual sits inside as a therapy, and he also made the original, and by far the most powerful cloudbuster. He also wrote a cohesive theory of life energy, which revolved around what he called "Dead Orgone Energy" and "Positive Orgone Energy". He found that both types were manipulable and that both had an effect on both weather and plants.

This may be of interest.



from http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Wilhelm_Reich_-_Orgone_experiment_ with_Einstein/id/597010

Wilhelm Reich - Orgone experiment with Einstein

In 1940, Reich wrote to Albert Einstein saying he had a scientific discovery he wanted to discuss, and on January 13, 1941, he went to visit Einstein in Princeton. They talked for five hours, and Einstein agreed to test an orgone accumulator, which Reich had made out of a Faraday cage made of galvanized steel and insulated by wood and paper on the outside. Einstein agreed with Reich that if, as Reich suggested, an object's temperature could be raised without an apparent heating source, it would be "a bomb" in physics.

Reich supplied the device during their second meeting, and Einstein performed the experiment in his basement, which involved taking the temperature atop, inside, and near the device. He also stripped the device down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. Over the course of a week, in both cases, Einstein observed a rise in temperature, and confirmed Reich's finding in a published letter. Since Einstein could offer no explanation for the finding, Reich concluded that the heat was the result of a novel form of energy ”orgone energy” that had accumulated inside the Faraday cage. However, one of Einstein's colleagues at Princeton, the Polish physicist Leopold Infeld, interpreted the phenomenon as resulting from thermal convection currents, though he failed to provide an experimental demonstration of his contention. Einstein concurred that the experiment could be explained by convection.

Over the next three years of correspondence, Reich and Einstein disagreed on the interpretation of the experiment. The entire correspondence between Reich and Einstein was published by Reich's press as The Einstein Affair in 1953. In 2001, the Canadian researchers Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa reproduced the experiment and introduced controls that they say rule out the possibility of convection as an explanation. A similar experiment was independently carried out by the alternative energy activist and journalist Eugene Mallove.



Orgonite proposes two things - Draw in Electrosmog, transmute it to POR. (Positive Orgone Energy)

POR is what is making the plants grow [Plant experiments in posts #37, 63, and 67 of this thread] and what is making the ice take amazing formations in all the ice tests. Image Search "Orgonite Ice Test"


http://www.paranormal-investigation.com/research/reich/reich003.jpghttp://www.paranormal-investigation.com/research/reich/reich002.jpghttp://www.paranormal-investigation.com/research/reich/reich004.jpg

On June 6th, 1953 Reich was paid by a group of farmers in Maine to save their blueberry crop. Within 48 hours of arrival, he created a gentle, steady rain when none was predicted for several weeks. It amounted to 2 inches overall before it stopped. In the newspapers, all the farmers credited Reich and his cloudbuster as the cause of the rain. He collected his fee for creating rain. It's a quick search to verify this story is true.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Bullion_Bob for verifiable results, use the zapchecker on a tower before and after gifting. We have had a member run this test with his own zapchecker and we got good results. I know you take science seriously so I try to approach it as such as well. It is really quite a huge topic with a lot of aspects to consider. Orgonite as we know it is a new invention, a lot was added to this body of work before orgonite was even a thing.

[ShortJohnSilver]

i've tried putting a bunch of them right next to the phone, doesn't do anything. i also tried the radio thing, doesn't do anything either. but the bars definitely do go down if i scatter all of them throughout the house. weird, eh?


Remember that radio waves have both frequency and amplitude.

Think of a series of waves, there is both the space between the peaks (the timing of this is the frequency), and the height of the wave, (which is amplitude).

Perhaps the busters interfere at a distance but up close, they only block the signal. Since the antenna is omnidirectional the strength of the signal is unaffected as the cell phone just gets the signal from the "other side". If you were to create a buster that was in the shape of a cone, and place the phone inside the cone, it would probably be different.

[Low Pan]

just finished reading the entire thread, very interesting. The Garden (Organized and Normal) pics are very interesting. Notice how the "normal" garden appears to be reaching out to the organized garden on the right side (side closer to the organized garden) and the left side had barely grown! Definetly want to make or buy some of these for myself. Quick question Noc, why the warning to "
Something else: do not build a CB (stands for Cloud Buster or Cloud Booster) until you have read about Orgone energy quite fully."? Just curious. Thanks Noc and everyone else for the info and links ;D

[Winston Smith]

Hey Noc, i am excited about making my own orgonite. am now accumulating stuff that i will need. have a friend that owns a foundry in tn, said he will save me scraps. what about hematite? would it work also? thanks in advance.

WS

[Bullion_Bob]

Bullion_Bob for verifiable results, use the zapchecker on a tower before and after gifting. We have had a member run this test with his own zapchecker and we got good results. I know you take science seriously so I try to approach it as such as well. It is really quite a huge topic with a lot of aspects to consider. Orgonite as we know it is a new invention, a lot was added to this body of work before orgonite was even a thing.


Very interesting. Thanks. The whole thing is kind of melting my brain bit.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Quick question Noc, why the warning to "
Something else: do not build a CB (stands for Cloud Buster or Cloud Booster) until you have read about Orgone energy quite fully."? Just curious. Thanks Noc and everyone else for the info and links ;D


This warning is because the Cloud Buster 'does what it says on the tin', so to speak. CBs work. Once an area has been gifted, one or more cloudbusters can be deployed. With a properly made cloudbuster, an individual can achieve visible push/pull on the atmosphere. CBs are hollow pipes which can be hooked up to a very large mass of orgonite. This shoots the orgone energy out. 6-11 foot 1" pipes embedded in orgonite achieves push/pull on the upper atmosphere. The more gifted an area is, the more powerful your CB becomes at moving clouds. It's not control at all, but these devices can move parts of the atmosphere around. I don't have my own CB but there are a LOT of journals out there, with pics, written by people who do. They have a huge radius, after several days in straight operation they chase away most clouds, but can also draw them in.

Classic and Modern Cloudbusters:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5UQvfhjTbxI/SxS_HZ1mkbI/AAAAAAAAAMs/8ntYpDjyf30/s1600/cloudbuster-1.jpg
http://www.whale.to/b/Finished-Cloudbuster.gifhttp://orgonise.com/images/cloud-buster.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3580/3353200327_1b8dd1498b.jpg

http://freeenergy2000.tripod.com/cloudbuster5.jpg

Simple, metal/resin mixture with room for the hollow copper pipes. Quartz points go in the pipes.
http://www.orgoneenergybalancing.org/uploads/2/7/5/8/2758073/1222056_orig.jpg

This one is a single guage, grounding pipes going directly into the ocean:
http://www.rainengineering.com/images/galleryimages/bob.JPG

Cloudbusters that use orgonite ground themselves. Cloudbusters that do not use orgonite are orgone accumulators, and need to be Earthed or they will become extremely dangerous over time, that is why all the classical models have pipes - to ground in running water. Orgonite does not have this problem as it is an orgone transmuter, not an orgone accumulator.

http://www.orgoniseafrica.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/o/r/orgonite-cloud-buster-standard.jpg



http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/25600/2195096100106685042S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/46581/2977270620106685042S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/37896/2974487180106685042S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/13443/2563397750106685042S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/45267/2721888400106685042S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/27410/2947544180106685042S600x600Q85.jpg



Hey Noc, i am excited about making my own orgonite. am now accumulating stuff that i will need. have a friend that owns a foundry in tn, said he will save me scraps. what about hematite? would it work also? thanks in advance.

WS


Hi WS,

Glad to hear it, hematite is absolutely great to use in orgonite, it is a metal after all. The ideal is to have as much metal as possible touching the resin, and a higher surface area is always better. These rules are bent in many ways to tweak the output however. Here is a Grounding plate made by Lena (with hematite, garnet, black kyanite and Danburite) It's not for gifting, it's for human use.
http://lenarocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_1880copy-300x200.jpghttp://lenarocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_1883-300x200.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/2740131504_77df36d01c.jpg

[sunnyandseventy]

TNE,
Does that triangle pendant help you sleep because you wear it to bed or because you wear it throughout your day?

This is a great thread!
Thanks!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I wear it throughout the day, and usually take it off at night - I sleep deeply because I "know" that I'm protected. It usually hangs out right next to me while I'm sleeping.

There have been several times when I've fallen asleep with it on, and I usually wake up brimming with energy in those cases. Most newbies to orgonite cannot sleep at all with orgonite in the bedroom - too much energy. A fun test is to put a lot of orgonite under your bed, and then try to sleep . . . if you're new to orgonite you won't be able to, heh.

That necklace in question has nano-iron as well as 24k gold in it. Instead of a normal piece of quartz, it has lemurian quartz, which is really just a nicer grade of quartz.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

This is a post from matthew, who became a gifter on http://orgonegifters.aceboard.com

__________________________________________________ __________________________________

I've worked on and off for years surveying trees and clearing them off the power lines and it's a well known fact that being in the vicinity for too long messes with your sense of direction.
On damp days you can hear the crackles in the air and I feel the static on the hairs on the back of my hands. I can also feel it on a large incoming supply cable that's drawing current.


Great pic Shargaz, illustrates the point completely and also an easy experiment that anyone with a fluorescent tube can replicate.

Imagine the effect it would have on an organism dosed up with Aluminium and Barium standing under there


Just to bring it down to household level

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShd2Zjd75FS5RvtnIFbCJ3OZqzxVvga Bo2nsqfANOyMGaNC8Y&t=1&usg=__4es6x4jtHRdgeHLuqU_Cdu_93nk=%20%A0


Clamp-on ammeter
# A clamp-on ammeter, also known as a current clamp or current probe, can be clamped around a conductor via its two jaws, allowing the monitor to get a reading of amperage. Generally speaking, clamp-on ammeters use their jaws to detect the conductor's magnetic field, which acts on an iron vane, or a sensitive cylinder of iron, which provides a reading of current.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5022022_clamp-amp-meter-work.html

So any electrical equipment is producing EMF's, even the wiring. This is especially bad if you have electric blankets, ring main circuits running under your bed, the transformer in electrically powered alarm clocks (not as bad as having your mobile as an alarm near the bed though!!) and anything else electrical while you are sleeping and your body's cells are trying to repair not to mention interference with brain wave patterns.

Now that there are electronics in everything and the mis guided belief that low voltage everything is more energy efficient, we have transformers in everything too and these give off a lot of "noise".

In the simplest terms, the Negative on the electrical supply will basically go to ground and travel through the earth back to the centre winding on the generator at the power station where it completes the circuit, all the transmission lines on the pylons are a different live circuit and under each leg of the pylon is a 4ft thick copper plate (just thought I'd mention that in case anyone sees a pylon laying on the ground, I'll get the crane to get the copper out the ground and the truck to get it to the scrap yard )

The rotation of a cars axle cutting through the Earths own magnetic field acts like a small generator..... In fact any conductor cutting through a magnetic field will produce a charge I think.

So I'm wondering what kind of magnetic fields do these wind turbines produce??? Not to mention the low frequency sounds being generated???

Food for thought!

[sirgonzo420]

Bump.

[sunnyandseventy]

TNE, I can't recall where you mentioned the powdered quartz crystal.

Do you make it yourself? If so, how?
In order to get more mileage out of larger crystals we've smashed them with a hammer in a plastic baggie. As a result there's small chips, specs, and powder left over. My intuition told me those few that I dumped the leftover powder into turned out "different".

[Winston Smith]

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[beefsteak]

All,
hate to be so dumb, but when abbreviating in this thread, would someone please help us newbies as to what the abbreviations mean? Like TB? I'm pretty sure it isn't tuberculosis....so I'm scratching my head on that one.

Thanks!


beefsteak

[sunnyandseventy]

TB=tower buster
EMF=electro magnetic frequency (?)
CB= cloud buster

[Dogman]

TB=tower buster
EMF=electro magnetic frequency (?)
CB= cloud buster EMF=Electromagnetic force or field. But normally it stands for, force.

[Awoke]

I have a friend that gifted all the towers in our city (at least all the ones he could find and access) and he had some harrassment flyovers with black choppers.
No shit.

He stopped.

Spoke with him again and he told me he gifted the local FMC building too. After the choppers started harrassing him, he layed low and then after a while he went out and checked all the spots he gifted, including pieces he buried under the ground: They were all gone. Every piece.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1289&d=1318418077

Perfect perfect perfect! Could not be better....


@Sunny&Seventy - To make crystal powder I made one of these by welding a 3" steel pipe onto a steel base plate. A steel rod acts as the striker, I just hit the rod with a hammer:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/DevinW/IMG_0292.jpg




Spoke with him again and he told me he gifted the local FMC building too. After the choppers started harrassing him, he layed low and then after a while he went out and checked all the spots he gifted, including pieces he buried under the ground: They were all gone. Every piece.


For some reason, this is not surprising. Whoever owns the black helicopters has influence and airspace permissions in Europe and Asia, as well. The stories are the same whether US or Canada...Big gifters are targeted like this sometimes, small gifters aren't. Some people even report the usage of frequency oriented weapons being used against them...I don't mean to scare anybody but this stuff gets reported in the orgone community...TPTB work on fear and I won't submit to it...

Anecdotally I believe that TPTB can detect high levels of orgone. I mean, trees produce a low level of the stuff. So do humans and the ocean. But I believe they can detect ultra-high levels.

Orgonite is not dangerous, except in the case of the people that hate it.....TPTB. When you make orgonite, you might be pissing off TPTB.

[optionT]

Does this look like a decent piece?


Hand-crafted HHG orgonite made by awakened hands. Contains one Crystal point quartz wrapped with copper (natural & silver) and natural copper spiral, sodalite, amazonite, fuchsite, and other gemstones, brass, stainless steel, bronze, aluminum, copper, metal and gold alloy (24k, white and yellow).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HHG-orgonite-11-11-EMF-orgone-/170709350809?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bf11f999

[sunnyandseventy]

It looks...ok. My feeling is there isn't enough metal in it. But it's a beautiful piece.

I can vouch for this company. Good quality. Buying a few of their products and then some encouragement from TNE had me making my own.

http://www.orgonecrystals.com/catalog/orgonite.html

[sunnyandseventy]

TNE, that's a serious tool. No doubt you had plans to pulverize crystal and stone.
Do you use powdered crystal along with a whole crystal in your pieces?

Awoke, thank you for sharing your friends experience. I've been to one spot where I buried several early this summer. Could not find them. Maybe I wasn't in just the right spot. May head over there and check again sometime soon.

TNE, do you have an idea what constitutes a large scale gifter?
I've given quite a bit away to people, gifted my building and trees surrounding it, but haven't done towers yet.

Figures, guns, gold/silver, orgonite, etc...all the stuff I'm into is hated by tptb.

[MNeagle]

How's the taste on the bigger-than-average food?

Also, I bet if some/all of you offered your wares in the Member Trading area, you'd have takers!

I suspect these could be found by metal detectors, maybe that's who's taking the buried ones?

[sunnyandseventy]

Also, I bet if some/all of you offered your wares in the buy/sell area, you'd have takers!

I'm trying to get to that point but I keep "gifting" the O that I make. Also I'm trying to stock up for gifting/personal use as cold weather is going to put a stop to my pouring.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

TNE, that's a serious tool. No doubt you had plans to pulverize crystal and stone.
Do you use powdered crystal along with a whole crystal in your pieces?

Awoke, thank you for sharing your friends experience. I've been to one spot where I buried several early this summer. Could not find them. Maybe I wasn't in just the right spot. May head over there and check again sometime soon.

TNE, do you have an idea what constitutes a large scale gifter?
I've given quite a bit away to people, gifted my building and trees surrounding it, but haven't done towers yet.

Figures, guns, gold/silver, orgonite, etc...all the stuff I'm into is hated by tptb.


I use a whole crystal if one will fit, with powder as well to ensure even coverage. This is only when I use metal powder...

For shavings just a crystal is used.


Question: What constitutes a large scale gifter?

Answer: Someone who has gifted their entire county, someone who takes multi-day long trips to gift other countries, someone who has built more than 5 cloud-busters and has them in operation...


I don't think I make the cut as a large gifter, but they are out there. Lazou had an online journal about his travels...Let me find it...Here it is. http://www.materiaetherica.com/heavenandearth/Contents

Lazou is one of the biggest gifters of orgonite, he has been all over the world in many countries, he claims to have an ability to "see" areas that need orgonite very clearly. He keeps an on-going journal of his travels and his accomplishments. He's never asked anyone for money, instead he's done all the gifting for free, so I trust most of what he writes.

[Glass]

Lazou had an online journal about his travels...Let me find it...Here it is. http://www.materiaetherica.com/heavenandearth/Contents

Lazou is one of the biggest gifters of orgonite, he has been all over the world in many countries, he claims to have an ability to "see" areas that need orgonite very clearly. He keeps an on-going journal of his travels and his accomplishments. He's never asked anyone for money, instead he's done all the gifting for free, so I trust most of what he writes.

I remember reading his stuff before. I loved the story about the temple or cave they went to and he was there doing his thing and one of the Monk's came and was all worried about what he was doing. Then when he got close he realised who it was and said that he had been waiting for him to come to that place......... like his whole life. I might be remembering it wrong but I thought it was a wonderful story. There is such a long list I'm not sure which one it was.

Something happened on his way to Australia and he had to go home. His apartment had caught fire IIRC.

Here it is. A Shaman in Guatemala (http://www.materiaetherica.com/heavenandearth/Guatemala)

[Awoke]

Awoke, thank you for sharing your friends experience. I've been to one spot where I buried several early this summer. Could not find them. Maybe I wasn't in just the right spot. May head over there and check again sometime soon.

I never got too detailed about this but I want to just expand a little and share what else he said about it.

The helicopter harrassment happened a number of times, and I'm talking late at night, 2-4am. They would fly down right over his house and shine a light on him. The helicopter was black, the guys on board were all wearing black.

He is convinced that TPTB know about the powers of organite, even more than the internet experts, and he is convinced that they can detect it. So while he was actively making and gifting, he would keep the ingredients separate when it was in his garage, and only make up the pieces he wanted to deliver for each project. He would not keep a stockpile of prefabricated Orgone pucks.

The only thing I noticed different about his pucks is that he used either 5 or 7 crystals, arranged so that they all pointed in towards the center of the puck, except for one would point up towards the sky. (Picture spokes pointing towards a hub on a bicycle wheel)

The way he explained it to me was that the other crystals laid out like spoke would emit energy towards the center crystal, which would channel and emit out like a beam.

But NE only uses one crystal, as far as I gather from his posts.

[DMac]

Do any of you know about Kirlian photography?

It's a type of electro-photography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography

I wonder what would happen if one were taking pictures of these orgone devices with a Kirlian camera? Or if one took a picture of a person who first receives an orgone device?

Some example Kirlian photos:

http://whoyoucallingaskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/kirlian-photo-of-vital-force.jpg
http://www.net4truthusa.com/Photos/KirlianKey.jpg
http://c4r0.skrzynka.org/_hv/hv/kirlian01_big.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dmnWEZk5Vzc/S-r9kTWCh2I/AAAAAAAACr8/g_pIeXR9_ZQ/s1600/butterfly.jpg
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/231533/large/H6820008-Kirlian_photo_of_a_U.S._one_cent_coin-SPL.jpg
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/231579/large/H6820058-Kirlian_photograph_of_an_U.S._quarter-SPL.jpg
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/231580/large/H6820059-Kirlian_photograph_of_an_U.S._half_dollar-SPL.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Not only do I know about Kirlian Photography, but the experiment has already been done by our good friend Sensei!



Having made a number of orgonite samples with different compositions, we set about taking Kirilian pictures of each.



Aluminum, regular sized shavings.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5055199037_4883dec845.jpg

Aluminum, fine , small shavings
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5055815788_1dd9feee98.jpg

Brass, large shavings
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5055241493_d8597fbb1d.jpg

Brass, Shavings Fine
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5055197549_0549752ebb.jpg

Copper , Large shavings
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5055277031_d7f5f4a2a1.jpg

Copper, Fine particles (A very strong player )
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/5055241723_9f6a1dafab.jpg

Gold.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5055827908_c8c20db996.jpg

Titanium.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5055198299_2d4d1660bb.jpg

Bismuth. (A pleasant surprise !)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5055816384_e55d872a10.jpg

Nano Iron and Nano Crystals.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5055276923_466b8a9263.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

These are the pieces used in the above Kirlian Test. I can only post 10 photos per thread...we should up that a bit : )

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5055814908_5c075473dc.jpg

[osoab]

These are the pieces used in the above Kirlian Test. I can only post 10 photos per thread...we should up that a bit : )

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5055814908_5c075473dc.jpg


It's 10 photos per post not thread. I agree that the limit should be changed, probably to no limit.

[beefsteak]

I'm still posting, hoping someone who has more experience with orgonite gifting, will sharing what they've heard or observed with regards to dementia and alzheimer committed individuals and positive responses/observations over short or long periods of time in the presence of an organite gifted piece.

The reason I'm asking and being so persistent and hopeful of any response is that this is extremely personal, as in immediate family personal. His commitment has been only 33 days into the system after being found driving the wrong way down a major interstate in a major city. Please, someone, if you know or have read anything helpful, please respond.

I'm trying to decide, that if the shared anecdotes are forthcoming, if I should "purchase one" or make my first one, and risk doing it "wrong."

Please. I looked for Sensei in the member list to PM him or her, and she or he is not listed as a GSUS member.

Thanks to DMAC and TNE for the Kirlian photo sharing.


beefsteak

[sunnyandseventy]

Warrior Matrix is a forum dedicated to orgonite making and gifting. Go there and research it. I think TNE answered it well in one of these threads. You're not going to find the answer you desire, at least definitively. Think of how difficult it is for natural health companies to make claim to the benefits of their work. Now imagine those hurdles for orgonite.
You may find an anecdotal account of someone observing benefits in a dementia patient but never proof.

Orgone Crystals is a maker and seller of orgonite. I bought several pieces from them before I was actually ready to try my own batch.

If it comes down to it, I'll gladly help you via message or forum posts in making a batch. Step by step instructions from prep to de-panning. How not to make a mess etc. But I suggest looking up orgonite making online to get an idea whether you are comfortable doing it. It is not difficult. In fact I just whipped up a two simple, but I hope effective pieces using information TNE shared here overnight re: powder crystal and metal.

[Shami-Amourae]

I sleep very deeply:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4539324722_af8030e5ea_b.jpg


Is that like one of those Q-Link things? I'm not convinced this stuff works... but interested.

[Grog]

This is an interesting topic and causing me to do more reading. Thanks!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Is that like one of those Q-Link things? I'm not convinced this stuff works... but interested.

No, it has nothing to do with Q-Link. It's a piece of orgonite using nano-iron and 24k gold, Lapis Lazuli, Watermelon Tourmaline. You get a lot more power in a much smaller space due to the increased surface area of the metal<->resin contact. I think QLink uses holograms implanted with a frequency or something. Not really sure.



Regarding the nano-iron necklaces, Sensei is the owner of www.warriormatrix.com I go by the name TheNocturnalEgyptian there as well. I learned how to make orgonite there for free. He also sells some interesting pieces and so do a lot of the members.

[Joe King]

No, it has nothing to do with Q-Link. It's a piece of orgonite using nano-iron and 24k gold. You get a lot more power in a much smaller space due to the increased surface area of the metal<->resin contact. I think QLink uses holograms implacted with a frequency or something. Not really sure.
Sorry if I missed it somewhere in all the posts, but what exactly does the resin have to do with it? ie how does it differ from, say, a pile of the shavings with the crystal stuck into it?

I'm like Shami. Not convinced, but certainly interested.

Also, I was wondering about the ones you said were placed near towers that came up missing. Where were these placed? Were they buried? Affixed to something? Just laid upon the ground? Or were they placed in some other manner/position? TIA

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Hello JK,

I hope this does not come across as terse but that question is answered in posts 3 & 5 of this thread. The general concept here is cleaning up electro-smog. To some this is a very uninteresting concept yet others take right to it right away.

I never personally said anything about my pieces going missing. A few people (a minority) have mentioned it happening to them.

I feel like I'm flooding the board with my opinions about this honestly, but I guess when you look at it I'm only averaging 1 thread per year on the topic.

[Joe King]

Hello JK,Hi.


I hope this does not come across as terse but that question is answered in posts 3 & 5 of this thread. The general concept here is cleaning up electro-smog.Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I hadn't really followed this thread until recently, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks.

Edited to add: After reading post #3 I was wondering, you're saying these affect wi-fi like in my router? What happens to your signal if you set one {or more} of these things near your router? Have you tried that? What were the results exactly? Degraded signal, or complete loss of signal?
Also, if it does, this might be a solution to people worried about their smart meters. ie glue one to the side of the house next to the meter. lol



I never personally said anything about my pieces going missing. A few people (a minority) have mentioned it happening to them.I wasn't sure whose came up missing. I was just curious if it might be possible that someone else simply found them interesting and took them? They are interesting looking pieces. If I found one somewhere, I'd probably pick it up to examine it more closely. Possibly even take it if it didn't appear to belong to anyone.
...and I was assuming the missing ones had been placed in publicly accessable places.



I feel like I'm flooding the board with my opinions about this honestly, but I guess when you look at it I'm only averaging 1 thread per year on the topic.Why would you be concerned about that? If people respond to your threads/posts, who cares how much you respond back. If there's actually something to this, you got to experiment and ask questions to find out. Right?

Anyways, thanks for answering my questions.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Bump because this forum doesn't get into esoterica enough anymore