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MarketNeutral
23rd April 2010, 06:42 AM
France's government on Thursday announced it would apply a proposed ban on face-covering Islamic veils to visiting tourists as well as residents, even as skepticism mounted over the legality of the plan.

Junior family minister Nadine Morano said visitors would have to "respect the law" and uncover their faces, prompting critics to speculate whether Saudi luxury shoppers would be forced to unveil themselves on the glitzy Champs-Elysees.

"When you arrive in a country you have to respect the laws of that country," Morano said on France Info radio. "If I go to certain countries I'm also forced to respect the law."

French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Wednesday backed a strict public ban of the veil, commonly referred to in France as the burqa, eschewing more moderate proposals that focused on limits in state institutions such as schools and town halls.

The draft bill will be presented to the cabinet next month.

"Why should we accept (the veil) on the bus and not in the town hall?" Morano said. She repeated Sarkozy's line that the veil hurts the dignity of women and equality between the sexes.

Prime Minister Francois Fillon said on Wednesday he was ready to take on a "legal risk" by supporting the ban, which could be challenged in the European Court of Human Rights on the grounds that it violates freedom of religion.

France's highest court has already warned the government that a complete ban could be unlawful.

STRIPPING ON THE CHAMPS-ELYSEES?

If the European Court or domestic courts strike it down, Sarkozy would suffer his second constitutional defeat in the space of a few months -- late last year, his plan for a carbon tax was rejected because its many loopholes violated the principle of equality.

The French State Ombudsman, Jean-Paul Delevoye, worried that the law could result in difficult situations.

"I don't know what they're going to do with the Saudi women who go shopping on the Champs-Elysees," he said on French radio.

The opposition Socialists have repeatedly spoken out against full veils, but are doubtful about the effectiveness of the ban.

"I can't imagine policemen running through the streets to pull the veils off women," Socialist parliamentarian Jean-Christophe Cambadelis said on i-Tele television.

The government says women who wear all-covering veils, such as the Afghan burqa or the niqab, would not be forced to take them off on the spot but would be asked for their name and address, and be sent a warning and a fine.

An estimated 2,000 women in France wear such veils. Since the idea of a ban was first floated last year, many women have publicly said that they want to cover up and are not forced into the practice by their husbands or families.

However, some feminists from France's poor, multi-ethnic suburbs say there is increasing pressure on young women to veil themselves, and that a ban could help strengthen their position.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/22/AR2010042202881.html

MarketNeutral
23rd April 2010, 06:54 AM
Driver wearing Islamic face veil fined in France

A woman driver wearing an Islamic face veil has been fined by French police for not having a clear field of vision. The fine was small, but it garnered big attention Friday and may illustrate what's to come as the president pushes to outlaw the veils nationwide.
http://www.onenewspage.com/news.php?nid=10345974-850

MarketNeutral
23rd April 2010, 06:55 AM
Driver wearing Islamic face veil fined in France

A woman driver wearing an Islamic face veil has been fined by French police for not having a clear field of vision. The fine was small, but it garnered big attention Friday and may illustrate what's to come as the president pushes to outlaw the veils nationwide.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2011680526_apeufrancemuslimveils.html?syndication= rss

DMac
23rd April 2010, 06:56 AM
good to see you posting again MN

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Spectrism
23rd April 2010, 07:00 AM
When they are overrun with muslims, it could be an interesting summer when enforcement starts.

Ash_Williams
23rd April 2010, 07:03 AM
Right, let them immigrate, then tell them to change. That makes sense.

jedemdasseine
23rd April 2010, 07:05 AM
Sarkozy's République Sionisme wants to tell people what to wear? Va chier!
Deal with the real issues.

keehah
12th April 2011, 10:24 PM
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/10-04-2011/117519-stupidity_sarkozy-0/

What did the French do in Setif and Guelma? Why are the French today doing the same in Libya? Why did the French armed forces massacre 45,000 civilians in Setif and Guelma? Why did the French Air Force commit terrorist attacks against civilians in Algerian villages? Why were European prisoners released to commit crusader massacres against Moslems?

Why can Moslem women not act and dress as they please in France today?

Is Sarkozy stupid? Yes, he is. Pigshit-thick, obtuse, idiotic and a pucker little fascist. The man is an idiot, a racist and a xenophobe. Imposing a ban on face-covering Islamic veils...why doesn't he send his gendarmes into Christian churches to arrest the brides every Saturday and Sunday between now and the end of the Summer?

In France today a lady cannot wear a veil, if she does she will have to pay a fine of 150 EUR (215 USD) and take a "citizenship course". So, brides of France, come out on the streets.

Spectrism
13th April 2011, 03:50 AM
A veil? I think not. A burkha is more than just a veil. Anyway, if you are under sharia law and ruled by the muslim nuts, the woman has no choice of not wearing a burkha. It is a battle of the lifestyles and muslims have no right to encroach on existing cultures with their oppressive regimes. I have no sympathy for burkha-lovers.

keehah
13th April 2011, 05:53 AM
Now an even more interesting state law would ban women from covering their breasts!

However I could see the powerful chimps that would decide such things may have a problem seeing some breasts. Perhaps gangs of male chimps authorized by the state could go around and decide which breasts are best covered up and hand out cover-up exemptions?

What about the other two partners in crime in the Abrahamic life of horrors. Perhaps we should also have a law saying it is illegal to cut off the most sensitive part of a man's reproductive organ. At least the burkha thing is easily reversible when one no longer wants to be hoodwinked or wants to have one's hoodwinky back depending on their Abrahamic poison and sex.

Cobalt
13th April 2011, 08:57 AM
When my buddy landed in Kuwait they were all instructed wearing a crucifix would only be allowed if it was always hidden from view, they were also to inform family and friends that any packages sent from home containing anything that could be classified as porn such as playboy, would be confiscated and being caught with banned items could mean charges being filed.