AZ truck driver forced to show birth certificate to prove citizenship

[MarketNeutral]

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html

PHOENIX – A Valley man says he was pulled over Wednesday morning and questioned when he arrived at a weigh station for his commercial vehicle along Val Vista and the 202 freeway.

Abdon, who did not want to use his last name, says he provided several key pieces of information but what he provided apparently was not what was needed.

He tells 3TV, “I don't think it's correct, if I have to take my birth certificate with me all the time.”

3TV caught up with Abdon after he was released from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in central Phoenix. He and his wife, Jackie, are still upset about what happened to him.

Jackie tells 3TV, “It's still something awful to be targeted. I can't even imagine what he felt, people watching like he was some type of criminal.”

Abdon was told he did not have enough paperwork on him when he pulled into a weigh station to have his commercial truck checked. He provided his commercial driver’s license and a social security number but ended up handcuffed.

An agent called his wife and she had to leave work to drive home and grab other documents like his birth certificate.

Jackie explains, “I have his social security card as well and mine. He's legit. It's the first time it's ever happened.”

Both were born in the United States and say they are now both infuriated that keeping important documents safely at home is no longer an option.

Jackie says, “It doesn't feel like it's a good way of life, to live with fear, even though we are okay, we are legal…still have to carry documents around.”

A representative at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) returned 3TV’s calls after researching the incident and she said this was standard operating procedure.

The agents needed to verify Abdon was in the country legally and it is not uncommon to ask for someone's birth certificate. She also said this has nothing to do with the proposed bill or racial profiling.

[MarketNeutral]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.

[Celtic Rogue]

Who cares for now... I would rather show some proof if it helps clear out the parasites that use up our tax payer services.

This is a war of sorts and we are into a full invasion of our country. Ok some say put fines on those who give jobs or housing to illegals... That should be done as well. You need an effort on all possible avenues to curb the enabling attitude of the Feds.

While I am not really thrilled at the prospect of having to ID myself... How else do you propose to root out the illegal people? Its not like they will turn themselves in.

Then others call it racial profiling... I call it BS !!!

The term racial profiling is a politically correct construct. In trying to solve a crime or immigration violation (same thing in my book) the authorities must look for people fitting a description of the perpetrator. Why would you ever do anything else if you wanted to solve crimes?

If the banks were being robbed by a black person ,,, its good police work to look for black people. If illegals are coming from mexico and central america... its good police work to look at mexicans and people from central america for illegals.

[MoShaniqua]

I wonder if the cops who arrested him were carrying their birth certificates. Many of them look Mexican.

[Hermie]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.




Then I guess Obama had better stay out of Arizona.

[Ponce]

Mr. Abdo should go against Obama in the next elections......at least he can proved that he was born here.

First post of the day.........good morning to one and all.

[philo beddoe]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.


Big deal. What would Europe and England look like right now if Hitler won?

[Book]

http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/mexican-truck.jpg

Yeah...really difficult discerning which truck drivers belong on our roads...lol.

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[MarketNeutral]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.


Big deal. What would Europe and England look like right now if Hitler won?


Brillant commentary, thanks.

Do we have an ignore button?

[Blink]

Who cares for now... I would rather show some proof if it helps clear out the parasites that use up our tax payer services.

This is a war of sorts and we are into a full invasion of our country. Ok some say put fines on those who give jobs or housing to illegals... That should be done as well. You need an effort on all possible avenues to curb the enabling attitude of the Feds.

While I am not really thrilled at the prospect of having to ID myself... How else do you propose to root out the illegal people? Its not like they will turn themselves in.

Then others call it racial profiling... I call it BS !!!

The term racial profiling is a politically correct construct. In trying to solve a crime or immigration violation (same thing in my book) the authorities must look for people fitting a description of the perpetrator. Why would you ever do anything else if you wanted to solve crimes?

If the banks were being robbed by a black person ,,, its good police work to look for black people. If illegals are coming from mexico and central america... its good police work to look at mexicans and people from central america for illegals.

Illegal people? Couldn't the native indigenous peoples of North America say the same to you? Illegal immigrant, is a term used by governments to polarize the slaves against each other. Like the race card and political factions, these are tools to distract and steer us from seeing the real issues. If you look at the agreements of NAFTA (now the SPP), this agreement promotes poor people from Mexico and South America to come here and work for slave wages. The only reason its "illegal" is so they (corporations) can take advantage of low labour costs before they are recognized and given status. Remember, as long as they're "illegal", thats that many millions not collecting you're free healthcare. You will never be able to isolate yourself from the rest of the world, good luck. Pulling out one's ID to prove citizenship, whoa boy, we're getting close........ IMHO, we're all slaves and we need to band together to get rid of the real illegals, those that call no place home, bankers......

[General of Darkness]

I watched the video yesterday, the "truck driver" says he was born in Fresno, but talks like he just learn English last night. I'm calling b.s. on the story. ;)

[philo beddoe]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.


Big deal. What would Europe and England look like right now if Hitler won?


Brillant commentary, thanks.

Do we have an ignore button?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9LrvkXRQXQ

I have $1.50. I can buy you a hot cup of 'wake the fuck up'.

[Book]

I watched the video yesterday, the "truck driver" says he was born in Fresno, but talks like he just learn English last night. I'm calling b.s. on the story. ;)


http://aconservativeedge.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/gang-member-accused-of-forcing-sons-tattoo-local-fresnobeecom.jpg

Fresno is Mexico now...lol.

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[Book]

IMHO, we're all slaves and we need to band together to get rid of the real illegals, those that call no place home, bankers......


One of these lies concerns testimony (never given in court) by a Hispanic worker that he “overheard” two AgriProcessors managers discussing their orders to rehire a number of employees who had been fired due to lack of valid papers but who now had been helped to acquire better false papers. [The allegation that Rubashkin called for the financing of false papers and the rehiring of illegal immigrants holding these papers was one of the most destructive libels circulated by the government against him in the pre-trial period.]

As it turns out, the two mangers were Hosam Amara, an Israeli Arab, and an Israeli Jew named Levi. Both men’s grasp of English is poor. They conversed with each other in the language in which they were both fluent—Hebrew. The Hispanic worker who claimed to have overheard them could not possibly have known what they were saying.

Yet this false testimony along with scores of other false allegations and unproven charges were cited in the probation officer’s report, as justification for recommending that Sholom be subjected to the most severe punishment possible. Although the defense team submitted memorandums totaling over a hundred pages disputing and disproving these allegations, Guy Cook and other members of the defense team say they do not believe their arguments will be weighed objectively.

http://www.chabad.info/index.php?url=article_en&id=18441

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[Korbin Dallas]

I watched the video yesterday, the "truck driver" says he was born in Fresno, but talks like he just learn English last night. I'm calling b.s. on the story. ;)


Second that. Sounds too "convenient" in light of the signing of the bill.

[MarketNeutral]

I been waiting to do this for 3 days

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV_eGm1qgGs

[Korbin Dallas]

I been waiting to do this for 3 days



+1, She knows, it's a multipass. ;D

[cigarlover]

With a ss number they can pull up so much info on you in a split second it would make your head spin. I call BS on this as well.
I bought a money card once and validated it online with my ss number. Within seconds it had more info on me including ex wife, mothers madien name, place of birth for father, past addresses.. all kinds of shit.. I was shocked at the amount of info available in a nano second.. So again I have to call BS on this. Just more fear mongering.

[Celtic Rogue]

Who cares for now... I would rather show some proof if it helps clear out the parasites that use up our tax payer services.

This is a war of sorts and we are into a full invasion of our country. Ok some say put fines on those who give jobs or housing to illegals... That should be done as well. You need an effort on all possible avenues to curb the enabling attitude of the Feds.

While I am not really thrilled at the prospect of having to ID myself... How else do you propose to root out the illegal people? Its not like they will turn themselves in.

Then others call it racial profiling... I call it BS !!!

The term racial profiling is a politically correct construct. In trying to solve a crime or immigration violation (same thing in my book) the authorities must look for people fitting a description of the perpetrator. Why would you ever do anything else if you wanted to solve crimes?

If the banks were being robbed by a black person ,,, its good police work to look for black people. If illegals are coming from mexico and central america... its good police work to look at mexicans and people from central america for illegals.

Illegal people? Couldn't the native indigenous peoples of North America say the same to you? Illegal immigrant, is a term used by governments to polarize the slaves against each other. Like the race card and political factions, these are tools to distract and steer us from seeing the real issues. If you look at the agreements of NAFTA (now the SPP), this agreement promotes poor people from Mexico and South America to come here and work for slave wages. The only reason its "illegal" is so they (corporations) can take advantage of low labour costs before they are recognized and given status. Remember, as long as they're "illegal", thats that many millions not collecting you're free healthcare. You will never be able to isolate yourself from the rest of the world, good luck. Pulling out one's ID to prove citizenship, whoa boy, we're getting close........ IMHO, we're all slaves and we need to band together to get rid of the real illegals, those that call no place home, bankers......



That might have a point if the Native americans you refer too were actually the first inhabitants of this land.. actually there were a couple of waves of immigration milena ago. So who owns the land??? No one or the people who live on it now??? I don't know... but the laws that exist now make anyone from outside this nation are considered illegal when they enter in an inappropriate way.

[Blink]

Oh yeah, laws. Those involuntary agreements that are violently enforced. Little words written by little men obsessing over power. The only laws that make sense are "common sense" laws (don't kill/steal/rape/etc.). The rest are used for usury and enslavement........ BTW, the bankers own the land. Even if you paid it off, if you fail to pay "property taxes" or such, it reverts back to them with the force of law behind them. The Mexicans/South/Central Americans are cheap labour pool for the banksters. A good example is "Food Inc.", where immigration busts a chicken farm and tosses a token hand full of Mexicans into the wagon for deportation and leaves the majority "illegal" aliens there to continue working and then telling you they're doing something about the illegals. Its all a smokescreen. Don't think in "borders" and what slaves are "legal" or "illegal". Its us against them. Look at the Mexicans very closely, we'll be in the same boat soon enough.........

[V10Silver]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.




Maybe we can get Obama to visit a truck stop???

[Book]

Looks like AZ is going to require you to carry your birth certificate.

Maybe we can get Obama to visit a truck stop???


Zing! lol.
:D

[Book]

Its us against them.


It really is that simple.

[philo beddoe]

Oh yeah, laws. Those involuntary agreements that are violently enforced. Little words written by little men obsessing over power. The only laws that make sense are "common sense" laws (don't kill/steal/rape/etc.). The rest are used for usury and enslavement........ BTW, the bankers own the land. Even if you paid it off, if you fail to pay "property taxes" or such, it reverts back to them with the force of law behind them. The Mexicans/South/Central Americans are cheap labour pool for the banksters. A good example is "Food Inc.", where immigration busts a chicken farm and tosses a token hand full of Mexicans into the wagon for deportation and leaves the majority "illegal" aliens there to continue working and then telling you they're doing something about the illegals. Its all a smokescreen. Don't think in "borders" and what slaves are "legal" or "illegal". Its us against them. Look at the Mexicans very closely, we'll be in the same boat soon enough.........
Don't you already have like three accounts here? Or is it four?

[Blink]

Oh yeah, laws. Those involuntary agreements that are violently enforced. Little words written by little men obsessing over power. The only laws that make sense are "common sense" laws (don't kill/steal/rape/etc.). The rest are used for usury and enslavement........ BTW, the bankers own the land. Even if you paid it off, if you fail to pay "property taxes" or such, it reverts back to them with the force of law behind them. The Mexicans/South/Central Americans are cheap labour pool for the banksters. A good example is "Food Inc.", where immigration busts a chicken farm and tosses a token hand full of Mexicans into the wagon for deportation and leaves the majority "illegal" aliens there to continue working and then telling you they're doing something about the illegals. Its all a smokescreen. Don't think in "borders" and what slaves are "legal" or "illegal". Its us against them. Look at the Mexicans very closely, we'll be in the same boat soon enough.........
Don't you already have like three accounts here? Or is it four?


Nice, pointless shill statement. What ya trolling for?