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General of Darkness
29th April 2010, 03:26 PM
This is awesome.

Link to Original Article (http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m4d28-New-investigation-into-Obama-background-spells-trouble-ahead)

New investigation into Obama background spells trouble ahead
April 28, 12:24 PMConservative ExaminerAnthony G. A

brand new, in-depth investigation into the background of Barack Obama may spell big trouble ahead regarding the issue of Presidential eligibility.

The investigation was conducted by Northeast Intelligence Network--a team of experienced, professional private investigators whose services have been utilized by Fortune-500 companies. The director, Douglas J. Hagmann, is a 23-year veteran in high-level investigations and is a member of the International Counter-Terrorism Officers Association.

Hagmann's investigation into the background and Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama to serve as President of the United States is extensive and thorough. His conclusions are stunning.

For example, neither of Obama's parents were citizens of the United States at the time of his birth. Therefore, Obama would have to have been born on U.S. soil in order to qualify as a 'natural born citizen' according to the qualifications specified in the Constitution.

But Hagmann's investigation reveals that, contrary to the notion of those who point to a short-form birth certificate in Hawaii, and 2 birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers, neither of these factors proves anything at all about Obama's status or citizenship:

the Certification of Live Birth is consistently cited by individuals, the media and others to prove the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA. Nonetheless, even an authenticated and genuine Certification of Live Birth is legally insufficient for the purpose of proving eligibility, as it merely represents that OBAMA’s birth record is on file in the state of Hawaii. It falls short of providing the information necessary to determine constitutional eligibility in at least two areas: it does not offer any information regarding who supplied the information, nor does it confirm the authenticity of the information provided. Again, it merely indicates that the information is “on file.”
In other words, the 'certification of live birth' as touted by Obama apologists and the mainstream media as 'proof' Obama meets the eligibility requirements of the Constitution actually proves nothing.

In addition, Hagmann disputes the notion that birth announcements in local Hawaiian newspapers provide proof:

Many who argue that Barack Hussein OBAMA II was born in Hawaii not only point to the COLB as direct evidence of eligibility, but they also point to two separate birth announcements that appear in the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin in 1961. Those doing so either fail to understand the legal definition of a natural born citizen as it applies to the eligibility factor, or are guilty of intentionally misdirecting the core issue. A birth announcement is simply that – a public announcement that a baby was born. The birth announcements do not provide any information about the child’s citizenship, cannot be authenticated, and hold no weight of evidence to support either side of the eligibility argument.
However, the key information in Hagmann's report that casts doubts upon Obama's eligibility is the fact that the very organizations that published the short-form certificate of live birth and the 2 birth announcements in newspapers have direct connections with Barack Obama.

The DailyKos is the primary suspect and the first entity to publish 'proof' of a birth certificate. The DailyKos is an ultra-Leftwing hate-group that not only is 'in the tank' for Obama but smears and seeks to destroy those who oppose extremist, Leftwing initiatives in politics.

'Fight the Smears,' which also pointed to these 2 erroneous pieces of 'evidence,' is owned by 'Organizing for America,' which was originally named 'Obama for America.' This speaks for itself.

And finally, there is the much-hallowed 'Factcheck.org'--supposedly an independent, non-partisan clearinghouse that separates truth from fiction in the media and on the Internet. Hagmann's investigation reveals that Factcheck is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, which receives its primary funding from the Annenberg Foundation.

Barack Obama was a founding member, chairman, and past President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was also funded by the Annenberg Foundation. Thus, the supposed 'neutrality' of Factcheck.org can safely be called into question.

The bottom line is that so far absolutely no positive proof has been provided that establishes that Barack Obama was born on American soil.

Why is this important? An individual who would spend millions of dollars hiding his background and pertinent documents from the public, and who would make false statements about about his history, cannot be trusted to tell the American people the truth about what his policy initiatives are intended to do regarding the 'fundamental change' of America.



EDIT: Replaced long link with named link to prevent forum page scrolling to the right. -Gaillo

cigarlover
29th April 2010, 06:08 PM
If its true that the announcement is in the papers do you really think that at the time of his birth there was some conspiracy and they were covering their tracks for the future? I cant see why they would publish it in a paper if it wernt true.
IMO this is just one more issue to keep the masses fighting while they destroy the fundamentals of the American way o life.

Spectrism
29th April 2010, 06:46 PM
By the time anything close to justice begins to dawn on the zombified streets of Amerika, it will be far too late. Want to see what will happen across this land? Watch what happens in the Gulf of Mexico.

We are watching the end of this world coming into focus friends. In a fairly short time, we will see the reset button get pushed. There is only one escape but few will get out alive.

sunshine05
29th April 2010, 07:59 PM
If its true that the announcement is in the papers do you really think that at the time of his birth there was some conspiracy and they were covering their tracks for the future? I cant see why they would publish it in a paper if it wernt true.
IMO this is just one more issue to keep the masses fighting while they destroy the fundamentals of the American way o life.


You're missing the point. The birth announcement in the paper did not state *where* the baby was actually born so it really doesn't prove he was born in Hawaii. I'm pretty convinced he was not or he would have shown the BC and been done with all of this a long time ago.

cigarlover
29th April 2010, 08:08 PM
So he was born in kenya and A Hawaii paper decided to print the birth announcement?

I am me, I am free
29th April 2010, 08:13 PM
So he was born in kenya and A Hawaii paper decided to print the birth announcement?


Those sorts of announcements are paid, and the most likely scenario is that the happy grandparents, the parents of the 17 y.o. slut getting boned by a black as the ace of spades much older alcoholic African man out of wedlock, placed the ad (in an effort to put the best possible face on the worst possible circumstance).

General of Darkness
29th April 2010, 08:16 PM
If its true that the announcement is in the papers do you really think that at the time of his birth there was some conspiracy and they were covering their tracks for the future? I cant see why they would publish it in a paper if it wernt true.
IMO this is just one more issue to keep the masses fighting while they destroy the fundamentals of the American way o life.


You're missing the point. The birth announcement in the paper did not state *where* the baby was actually born so it really doesn't prove he was born in Hawaii. I'm pretty convinced he was not or he would have shown the BC and been done with all of this a long time ago.


For shits and giggles it would be great to place an ad or what in a Hawaiian paper about the birth of John F Kennedy or something like that. I agree with what your saying, this give absolutely NO cred

k-os
29th April 2010, 08:18 PM
Nothing will come of this, until "they" need it to. I've often thought that if O-no was truly not a natural born citizen, then "they" were well aware of it, and using that to their advantage. Just another potential move in the chess game.

And about these newspaper announcements: Is this a database record, a microfilm/microfiche image, a carbon-dated newspaper print, or what?

What I am trying to say is that anything can be modified or faked when we are talking about the skill sets and persuasion levels of the CIA, or other known or unknown alphabet soup agency. Anything.

sunshine05
29th April 2010, 08:34 PM
Nothing will come of this, until "they" need it to. I've often thought that if O-no was truly not a natural born citizen, then "they" were well aware of it, and using that to their advantage. Just another potential move in the chess game.

And about these newspaper announcements: Is this a database record, a microfilm/microfiche image, a carbon-dated newspaper print, or what?

What I am trying to say is that anything can be modified or faked when we are talking about the skill sets and persuasion levels of the CIA, or other known or unknown alphabet soup agency. Anything.


Good point about the birth announcement k-os. I also agree with you that "they" knew about this from the start and planned to place a usurper in office. We have yet to see why but some day.....

Cigarlover - I think since his mom was living in HI, it would make sense that even if she gave birth in Kenya, she would still do a birth announcement in her home town. I think anyone would do that. The whole thing is so weird.

silver_surfer
29th April 2010, 09:00 PM
So he was born in kenya and A Hawaii paper decided to print the birth announcement?



Soldiers have kids overseas and the birth annoucments are printed in local US papers by the happy grand parents.
does that mean they are born in the US

Obamas announcements

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

the address listed is 6085 Kalaniana'ole Highway.

type that address into google and you will find that is his Grandma's address were supposedly his parents lived with his grandparents.

with that address you can also find stories from neighbors who dont every remember a black baby living at that address

MetalsMan
29th April 2010, 09:03 PM
We are watching the end of this world coming into focus friends. In a fairly short time, we will see the reset button get pushed. There is only one escape but few will get out alive.



Uh... :o

When do you think TPTB will hit the reset button and what's the excape route?

JohnQPublic
29th April 2010, 09:12 PM
"For example, neither of Obama's parents were citizens of the United States at the time of his birth. Therefore, Obama would have to have been born on U.S. soil in order to qualify as a 'natural born citizen' according to the qualifications specified in the Constitution."

Makes me question whether whoever wrote this knows what they are talking about. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that being born on US soil makes you a natural born citizen. That is just common language, and it is clear that the constitution requires much more. This sounds more like a smokescreen article.

sunshine05
30th April 2010, 06:07 AM
"For example, neither of Obama's parents were citizens of the United States at the time of his birth. Therefore, Obama would have to have been born on U.S. soil in order to qualify as a 'natural born citizen' according to the qualifications specified in the Constitution."

Makes me question whether whoever wrote this knows what they are talking about. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that being born on US soil makes you a natural born citizen. That is just common language, and it is clear that the constitution requires much more. This sounds more like a smokescreen article.


It clearly states that the president must be either a US citizen OR a natural born citizen. What is your interpretation of natural born citizen? IF his parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth then he would have had to have been born here to qualify as a natural born citizen. The article is only stating that the terminology natural born citizen is a constitutional requirement. At least that's the way I read it.

Ash_Williams
30th April 2010, 07:23 AM
If its true that the announcement is in the papers do you really think that at the time of his birth there was some conspiracy and they were covering their tracks for the future? I cant see why they would publish it in a paper if it wernt true.
IMO this is just one more issue to keep the masses fighting while they destroy the fundamentals of the American way o life.

I believe the announcement in the paper is real but it doesn't prove a whole lot. They didn't say where he was born. I still get the newspaper for my home town and there are plenty of birth, death, marriage, graduation, etc. notices posted for people that have also moved out of town. If I got married I'd put a announcement in that old paper too even though it's hundreds of miles away now, just so the people who knew me would know what I ended up doing.

Saul Mine
30th April 2010, 10:18 AM
The antipresident is not the problem. The problem is We The People. Even if you could get zero thrown out of office, We The People would elect another one just like him.

sunshine05
30th April 2010, 12:17 PM
The antipresident is not the problem. The problem is We The People. Even if you could get zero thrown out of office, We The People would elect another one just like him.


To me, this isn't about being anti-Obama. I don't care if he is the greatest president ever. I would still want to see the proof that he is legitimate.

But yes, we will only elect a president that the media allows us to elect. And besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if the elections are rigged now. Does anyone really believe that McCain won the primary? I don't believe it.

ximmy
30th April 2010, 12:32 PM
TPTB have already decided that it is in their best interest to disregard any reference to the O's eligibility... move along peasants