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FreeEnergy
30th April 2010, 10:50 AM
What do you guys know about Jesuits?

Positives are obvious, it looks like the largest order in Catholic Church. Here's a bunch of negative:

http://one-evil.org/entities_organizations/evil_org_jesuits.htm

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Vatican_&_Jesuits

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Secret_services

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/?p=1379

http://marcoponce.com/2010/02/the-jesuit-order-rules-obamas-administration/

Ash_Williams
30th April 2010, 10:53 AM
There's positives?

Ash_Williams
30th April 2010, 11:29 AM
Funny pictures from the link.

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/Tony_blair_pope.jpg

Catholics/masons/politicians... there's no difference. Here's Mr. Pope with the guy that saw all the CIA's evidence for WMDs and assured the world that Bush was making the right choice.

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/Ariel_sharon_pope.jpg

Looks like that special handshake again... this time with Ariel Sharon.

Awoke
30th April 2010, 11:35 AM
The Jesuits have been infiltrated by the Illuminist jewish 5th column.

It just so happens I have my electronic copy of The Plot against the Church open, since I was posting quotes in the Stalin Coffehouse thread.



Another obstacle which interfered with the rapid domination of the Christian peoples by the crypto-Jews, was the Holy Church, its clergy, its hierarchies and, above all, its Religious Orders. It is understandable that for these false Christians, judaizing secretly, it entailed a great sacrifice to infiltrate the clergy, especially the Religious Orders, without having a real vocation, and solely for the purpose of controlling the hierarchies of the Church in order to prepare its ruin. If they did it and continue doing it, it is because they have a paranoiac mystique and fanaticism, but doubtless a more rapid solution entailing fewer sacrifices must have seemed to them preferable. Faced with the impossibility of destroying the Church, due to its roots among the people, they chose to attempt a revolutionary Reformation by heretical methods, while it was yet possible to destroy it completely. Therefore, the heretical sects organized by the secret Jews from the Middle Ages until this day, among other objectives, always favoured the following:

1. First, suppression of the monastic Orders, whose vows of poverty, communal life, hard discipline, and difficulty in satisfying their sexual appetite, made difficult their infiltration. Incontrovertible documents, among them the Inquisitorial Processes, demonstrate to us that the crypto-Jews, in different times, achieve dangerous penetration in the Monastic Orders which it was important for them to infiltrate, as, for instance, at one time the Dominicans and Franciscans, and later, the Jesuits, and others as well, demonstrating that the Judaizers as well as the Christians were capable of major sacrifices for their cause. But undoubtedly for subterranean Judaism the most convenient way was to destroy these difficult barriers, by achieving in some way or other the dissolution of the Religious Orders.

2. Suppression of celibacy among the clergy. Although the records of the Inquisition show us that the crypto-Jewish clergy always had a way of having their women clandestinely with the help of their coreligionists (Jews), or of introducing into the Christian clergy young crypto-Jews with homosexual tendencies who did not have that problem, for under-cover Judaism, wearing the mask of Christianity, it was much more convenient to contrive a revolutionary reform of the Church which would do away with the celibacy of the clergy. That is why, wherever they could in an heretical movement, they abolished clerical celibacy.

3. Suppression of the hierarchy of the Church. The actual hierarchy is difficult to achieve; albeit the Jewish fifth columnists have reached the pinnacle, it is also true that this work has always been very difficult and slow. Holy Church has gradually, with time, been accumulating natural defences in its own institutions; that is why, in those heretical movements of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, which were controlled by the Jews, the ecclesiastic hierarchies were suppressed, being substituted by Councils of Presbyteries and by a kind of religious democracy. It is clear that in the Soviet Union, where they have absolute dominion, they (the Jews) have no great interest in suppressing the hierarchy. Having assassinated the independent bishops, they have replaced them with Jews placed in the Dioceses, according to various writers. Under these conditions, the hierarchy also serves them by giving them a more secure control over the churches.
But in the Middle Ages, and later in the time of the crypto-Jews Calvin and Zwingli, the situation was different; in those times the shortest road to domination of the Christian churches was by the revolutionary suppression of the ecclesiastical hierarchy, because, in this way, any crypto-Jew could elevate himself to the leadership of the Church, without having to go through the long and uncertain process of rising from presbyter to pope.
That is why in the Protestant monarchies they fought bloodily against the Episcopal Churches, attempting to establish those of a Presbyterian character; and, if they failed in their endeavour, it was because of the support given by the kings to the former.

The fact that the monarchs played a decisive part in the appointment of the bishops, if it did not completely prevent it, at least hampered the infiltration of the crypto-Jews into the Protestant Churches, as was also the case with the Orthodox Churches of Eastern Europe. The control of the kings over them (the churches) saved them for several centuries from falling under Judaic dominion.
The Jews had been for centuries infiltrating secondary positions of command in both Church and State, but, commencing with the Eleventh Century, they felt themselves strong enough to decide to scale the highest posts, resolving then that if it could not be done by slow and difficult infiltration, they would do it by rapid and impressive revolution. In order to accomplish this it was necessary to destroy the obstacles preventing it, by revolutionary reform of religious, political and social institutions.
This plan could not be executed by Israelites identified as such, who practised their Judaism publicly, since the Holy Church and the Christian monarchies had, over the centuries, created ecclesiastical and civil laws which prevented their access to the governing positions of society; and, although this legislation was violated by some monarchs, it remained in effect in most Christian States. Besides, in cases where (this legislation) was forgotten, giving right of way to the Jews to the peaks of power, as in the example we examined in Castile, the redeeming Crusades, organized by other monarchs under the auspices of the Holy See, saved the situation.
But the clandestine Jews certainly were in a position to attain these objectives. Identified with the other inhabitants of a region by baptism, their subterranean Judaism, transmitted from father to son, from one generation to the other, was becoming less visible, until already in the Eleventh Century it was impossible to detect it in the Christian States in which a very secret Judaism existed in many families which appeared to be Christian for generations back, some of which, although in small numbers, had managed to keep the tides of nobility acquired in the manner we have already analyzed. The great majority of these secret Jews belonged to a social class which was arising: the bourgeoisie (yeomanry), in which they were without a doubt the most powerful element and, above all, the best organized and the richest. It cannot, therefore, be considered a coincidence that, as the yeomanry grew in power, Judaism was increasing its potentialities for dominating the peoples.
To understand the decisive strength the Jews had in Medieval Yeomanry, it is necessary to take into account that in some cases they monopolized commerce and in others played the principal role in its control, that of the bankers and usurious money-lenders.
At the same time, the sons of Israel formed a good percentage of the artisans.
4. Another thing that disturbed exceedingly those undercover Judaizers disguised as Christians was the veneration they had to render to the images of Christ, the Virgin Mary and the Saints. The business of having to go so frequently to churches filled with images was most repugnant to the crypto-Jews, not only because of their religious convictions which consider such adoration as idolatry, but also because of the hatred they have for the Virgin Mary and for the Saints, especially those who distinguished themselves as anti-Jewish leaders. The most odious thing of all for these false Christians was to be obliged to have their own homes filled with images in order to avoid suspicion from their Christian neighbours and friends. Therefore a form of worship devoid of images was, for these undercover Hebrews, much more comforting, so, whenever they could, in their heretical movements, they abolished the veneration of images. Nevertheless, there are instances of Christian churches, already under their control, in which they cannot yet accomplish this for fear of hurting the peoples feelings. But we have good reason to believe that they will do so as soon as they can do it without losing control of the masses.
5. Another of the objectives of the crypto-Jewish action in Christian society was to suppress what is now called “anti-Semitism”, because they realized that, as long as the Christian were aware of the danger of the Hebrews for them, for the Holy Church, and for the Christian nations, they stood a better chance at defending themselves against the conquering action of Jewish imperialism, provoking, as they did provoke, constant defensive reactions which would continue to cause the failure of the Synagogue’s attempts at dominion now and again, as was the case at that time. On the other hand, if the Holy Church and the Faithful lost this sense of their peril, they would have less chance of defending themselves against their dominating action. That is why, in the first millennium, and especially in the Middle Ages, one notes a tendency to achieve the transformation of the Christian mentality and that of the authorities of the Church and State intended to change their anti-Semitism into a philo-Judaism, a plan which originated those constant pro-Jewish movements organized by the Hebrew fifth column infiltrated into Christian society and the clergy of the Church.
Thus we see obtruding in many of the Medieval heresies these philo-Jewish tendencies, defended with ardour by many of the most distinguished great heretics of Jewish stock, a phenomenon which was repeated in various Protestant sects of Unitarian or Calvinist origin in the 16th and 17th Centuries, sects which were denounced by the Spanish and Portuguese Inquisitions as enterprises secretly controlled by the occult Jews disguised as Christians.





In the sequel of this work we will — as always — on the basis of documents and sources of penetrating proof, investigate details about the infiltration of secret Jews into the monastic orders and reveal the harm which they have caused to the defence of the Church, and especially to the Jesuits.




MONKS, NUNS AND PRELATES AS SECRET JEWS
James Finn, the English historian of the past [19th] century, writes in his work “Sephardim or the History of the Jews in Spain and Portugal” about the Jews living in both lands as false Christians: “They took on heraldic surnames, gained the Knights Cross, became bishops and even judges of the Inquisition, although they remained Jews at the same time. Orobius declared that he had come to know Jews in Amsterdam who did penance in the synagogues for their brothers, who in Spain pretended to be Franciscans, Dominicans and Jesuits.”314




In the following the Jewish historian quoted gives interesting details, and about Antonio D’Avelar, another Jew of the group, he writes: “His two sons and four daughters (three of them were nuns) were put on trial, because they adhered to Judaism. . . The scandal had a wide echo. On 30th April 1629, the Portuguese courts turned to Philip III and instructed him that, at recent burnings of heretics carried out by them, besides three monks and various Jesuits, three abbots from Coimbra had also been involved. A further six – all of whom had been appointed by the Pope – were in prison. The King was therefore requested in future to approve no livings to new Christians (i.e. Catholics of Jewish descent) or to allow them to enter the Holy Order. . .”318
The report of this renowned Jewish historian makes clear to us how a seemingly zealous monk, Professor of Church Law, famous preacher and father confessor, was not only leader of the secret Jews of Coimbra, but, as it appears, even a Rabbi of the secret synagogue in a private house. It is also revealed to us that to the secret group belonged monks, nuns, Jesuits and even abbots of the respected Church chapter.


Then there is an entire chapter dedicated to that subject. Here is a small piece:



JEWISH-FREEMASONIC INFILTRATION INTO THE JESUIT ORDER
In the “Jewish Spanish Encyclopaedia”, Limborch is quoted as follows: “In Amsterdam and elsewhere there are Augustinians, Franciscans, Jesuits and Dominicans, who are Jews.”337
As we have been able to discern, the secret Jews usually strive for all positions of the secular clergy and the monastic orders. In reference to the latter we must, however, still mention their preference to attach themselves to and control those orders which are most dangerous of all for their infamous plans, since they could make them ineffective through their control. When, in the 13th century, the Templar Order signified a great danger for them, they entered it and finally in all quietness conquered the highest positions, brought it away from its goals and used it against the Church and the Christian monarchies. This was a real catastrophe, and the Papacy and the Christian monarchy rapidly intervened, dissolved the Order and had the Grand- Master executed, in order to preserve Christianity from a catastrophe. In the Middle Ages they preferred the infiltration into the Orders, who worked out the plans for the Papal Inquisition, in order to make the latter’s struggle harmless. Since, however, the Franciscans and Dominicans exactly knew the Jewish problem and were masters in the struggle against Jewry, they were nevertheless able, as we have seen, to assert themselves.
In modern times the meritorious Society of Jesus has fought most of all against the Jewish revolutionary enterprises, freemasonry, spiritualism, theosophy, Communism, etc. This is to be attributed to the fact that many of their members are not subjected to such strict rules and prayers and have the necessary time to devote themselves to political-social struggles.
Naturally the Jews, since the founding of the holy work of St. Ignatius, have attempted to introduce themselves there in masses.
It is known that the Jesuit Order at first played a decisive role with the counter-Reforms, which made it possible that Poland and other states were won back for Catholicism. Although very soon the new Christians flooded over this land and gained control of the key positions, the true Jesuits still fought heroically against the Jewish threat and attained that a Statute was approved, which, as also with another Order, refused admittance into the Society of Jesus to descendants of Jews. Even today, there is a statute which forbids admittance into the Order to Jews up to the third generation. However, it is no longer heeded, for if today one investigates the family tree of the false secret Jewish Catholics of our days, it can be to the greatest part proved that they are descended since ten or more generations from Christians, which is to be traced back to the false conversions of their forefathers before this point in time.
Until now we have seen by means of recognised Jewish or Catholic sources that the presence of traitorous Jesuits, who secretly practised the Jewish religion, was at various times a frequent occurrence. In the following we will now, even if only summarised on account of the expediency of this work, investigate this regrettable occurrence.
Among other things, the Jewish Jesuits have attempted with intrigues to bring away from its goal the meritorious Society which was founded for the defence of the Church, and to occasion it to exactly the opposite, i.e., instead of combating the enemies of the Church to fight against its best defenders. Naturally the secret Jews, who pretended to be Jesuits, first of all set the Society against the sole bulwark of the Church, the Inquisition. This we will prove by means of Jewish sources, who enjoy the greatest regard in the modern synagogue.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
30th April 2010, 11:36 AM
I have heard an overwhelming amount of conspiracy chatter regarding the Jesuits. Don't know enough about them to make an informed decision, but a lot of other people already believe it to be true.

Awoke
30th April 2010, 11:40 AM
Also, Dr. John Coleman (Author of "The Committee of 300) wrote a white-paper/monograph on jesuit infiltration by jewish freemasonry. It is lacking in detail and not exciting to read, but there is some useful info in it.

I have a hard copy, but I'm not supposed to re-produce it in any way shape or form. (He likes getting paid for his writings, which is fine).

I think the site is Coleman300.com if you wanted to order it.

The Plot against the Church can be found at www.omnicbc.com

FreeEnergy
30th April 2010, 11:51 AM
Interesting.

Well, the fact that Pope isn't really a "Divine" being, i.e. a spiritual figure, but more or less a political power grab - is quite obvious, even to an untrained eye. This is obvious if you had a chance to talk to real spiritual people, i.e. lower level church folks outside of the west "capitalist" control.

I also visited Jerusalem and Vatican, and in either city you don't feel that it is a divine, holy city, but rather very much like a bureaucratic control center. It feels like Washington DC - self-centered people, empty large halls with lots of crypto- emblems everywhere. Not very divine.

The question remains, though...if you are studying god, or in god's school - you are bound to have something good in you, right? So how is it that they, apparently, control the world? They got to be a godless or an anti-christ bunch then. But...from looking at pictures of some, they don't look as evil as Bush Jr. and Sr., or Soros for instance.

MAGNES
30th April 2010, 11:59 AM
I am with Awoke, and have believed this for a while
even before Awokes great find the Pinay book.

Much of what is in that book is in other books.

But that book has it all, it is not a bogus kook book,
it covers key history that is banned to discuss like
the Inquisition, and the related wars, Anty Ep on
gim, the greatest of gim, got me on to this, along
with another few key points of history.

"marranos"

The whole Catholic church and other organizations
have been totally infiltrated, we know this about orgs,
even countries. Sometime the org does not even know
they been infiltrated, they go for the top, the rest of org
does not change and acts as cover.

Look at the Ford Foundation, lol, Ford is rolling in his grave.

NWO foundation, NED/Soros work, Geithner and Obama
families even come from there.

Ash_Williams
30th April 2010, 12:08 PM
http://www.mysterycoin.com/images/1616IHSducetF.jpg

1616 saxon gold coin. One of the Gimmers had one for sale but it went before I noticed it, and I haven't been able to find one since.

Note this is 160 years before the illuminati was supposed to have been founded.

MAGNES
30th April 2010, 12:18 PM
Note this is 160 years before the illuminati was supposed to have been founded.


And what does that mean ?

First off the masons steal symbols going way back to beyond
ancient history. They corrupt them too. This is one of the big
questions I had, why they do that ? They do that to history
too. They sell their own version. The non masonic Occult does
that too.

Second, the inner core corruptors are probably groups that
never went away and their methods/knowledge/beliefs/symbols
go way back to who knows when, Babylon/Egypt , I believe
Jesus spoke against these "pharisees" later on.

Just some things to thing about.

Awoke
30th April 2010, 12:26 PM
You're right as usual, Magnes.

Add in that the Kabbalistic worshippers of Ba'al were around long before the founding of the FMC and Illuminati.

IMO, it's all one-in-the-same.

The Synagoge of Satan = Kabbalistic jews = FMC upper echilons = Illuminists

Ash_Williams
30th April 2010, 12:43 PM
And what does that mean ?

First off the masons steal symbols going way back to beyond
ancient history. They corrupt them too. This is one of the big
questions I had, why they do that ? They do that to history
too. They sell their own version. The non masonic Occult does
that too.

Shows a tie between what was a masonic symbol and the catholic IHS. Shows the tie exists prior to when Illuminati could have possibly infiltrated the Jesuits.

My theory:
I believe that the masons and many of the religions have roots back in ancient history and a tie to these symbols. They didn't steal and corrupt them, they just corrupted them. These major followings were either started by a group that's existed since ancient history, or started on their own and were infiltrated very very quickly by that group. There is no group with a significant following or any influence that is not corrupted. No to offend anyone in any of those groups, it's just my theory.

I wouldn't say Jesuits were the main power, just a branch of that power. The same is true of masons, muslims, royalty, whatever. On a chessboard those groups are the rooks and bishops and knights. I don't know who the king is.

Egyptian obelisks have been put all over the world at very important locations. Even earlier than that, people were building pyramids all over the world. I think the influence we feel and blame on certain groups has existed long, long before those groups ever did. Thinking things will change because one group is taken out of the equation is like expecting the chess game to end one you've captured a rook.

Ash_Williams
30th April 2010, 12:53 PM
http://333art.net/niskyhill/26%20$%20cross.jpg

This looks like a fancy $ sign but is another expression of IHS. This was the best pic I could find. There's actually a tombstone in the cemetery of my hometown with this symbol carved into it.

FreeEnergy
30th April 2010, 12:54 PM
Egyptian obelisks have been put all over the world at very important locations. Even earlier than that, people were building pyramids all over the world.


Here's one just been built. This is if you know where to look. Kazakhstan's new capital, Astana (if you swap first 2 letters, you get "Satana" - which in russian means satan, and very close to english too....hey, but possibly it is a coincidence). Here's Astana's globalist symbols, brand new, built in last 2 years:

(the second image doesn't show 2 gold columns on left and right of the globe obelisk)

MAGNES
30th April 2010, 01:36 PM
My theory:


Well your theory in general is a lot of speculation like my theory
and pretty well matches, we can only speculate on things like this,
a lot of it splitting hairs, we will never know IMO the details.

People can't even figure out what is going on now.
Including us on here. Imagine back then, no info,
no books, no literacy for the most part.

@ FreeEnergy, it is all you know who.
Let's call them the "Pharisees" .
First contact with the West is in the Old Testament.
The Philistines were a Dorian tribe.
Pick up an OT with an index,
read all passages with Philistine/s , it is a real eye
opener, they never stopped what they themselves
record as their history. Irony, if it was not for the
Ptolemies, another Dorian family from NW Doric land,
there would be no OT as we know it as well.
You cannot appease a black mamba, they have
turned the words Byzantine, Philistine and even Hellenist
into dirty words, "war on Rome and it's children" ZOHAR.
We are Rome, inheritors, of East, West, Rome, all of
Europe and their Byzantine Double Headed Eagle
holy symbol, stolen and corrupted by ZOG Rothchild/Masons,
as spoils of war and our destruction.

Twisted Titan
30th April 2010, 01:37 PM
In Roman Catholic circles it is well known that the Black Pope is the term used for the [Superior] General of the Jesuits. As the Pope is always robed in white, and the [Jesuit Superior] General in black, the contrast is obvious. But those Romanists who do not greatly love the Jesuits, and their number is not limited, use the term as indicating that the Black Pope rules the White Pope…even while the former [i.e., the Black Pope] is obligated to make, at least, a show of submission to the latter.” (1896)

- M.F. Cusack (Ex-nun of Kenmore; author of the book The Black Pope)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYF-ejDBNhY