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Ponce
2nd May 2010, 10:16 AM
Remember folks that all this did happen in the last four day......what will happen in two MORE weeks by the time that they are able to cap the well?
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May 2, 2010

Oil spill disaster is now 'out of control'

President Barack Obama will today visit the Gulf of Mexico coastline threatened by the giant oil spill, as experts warn that the spill from a ruptured oil rig might be growing five times faster than previously estimated.

The oil is gushing from BP's sunken Deepwater Horizon rig at 25,000 barrels a day and could reach 50,000 barrels a day, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Earlier estimates had put the leak at 5,000 barrels a day.

Professor Ian MacDonald, an ocean specialist at Florida State University, said the new estimate suggested that the leak had already spread 9 million gallons of heavy crude oil across the Gulf. This compares with 11 million that leaked from the Exxon Valdez tanker when it hit a reef off Alaska in 1989.

Hans Gruber, a Miami University researcher, said that satellite images of the slick on Friday showed that it was three time bigger than estimated, covering an area of 3,500 sq miles (9,000 sq km), similar in size to Puerto Rico.

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At the current estimated rate of leakage, it would take less than eight weeks for the huge spill to surpass the Exxon Valdez disaster.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said that deteriorating conditions on the sea bed could result in a flow of 50,000 barrels a day, sufficient to produce one of America’s worst ecological disasters

Experts and officials said that their greatest fear was that a disintegration of pipes close to the rig could produce an “unchecked gusher” that would ravage America’s southern coastline.

High winds and rough seas hampered efforts to prevent the slick from reaching the coastline on Saturday, raising fears that there was no way to protect the fragile wetlands of Louisiana and its neighbouring states.

While the leading edge of the slick appears to be little more than a sheen, Bobby Jindal, the Louisiana Governor, warned that the millions of gallons of crude being driven into shore by southeasterly winds formed a potential catastrophe.

"This spill threatens not only our wetlands and our fisheries, but also our way of life," Mr Jindal told reporters. "They originally thought we would see heavier oil hitting us today. They've pushed that back until tomorrow."

Environmentalists said it could take decades for the maze of marshes — more than 40 per cent of America's ecologically fragile wetlands — to recover if waves simply wash the oil over miles of boom set up to protect the coast.

"The surface area is huge," said Mark Floegel, a researcher with Greenpeace. "There probably isn't enough boom in the world to protect what needs to be protected."

Commandant Admiral Thad Allen of the US Coast Guard said the adverse weather conditions meant that a major shore impact was inevitable.

"There's enough oil out there, I think it's logical to assume that it will impact the shoreline. The question is when and where," he told reporters.

Meanwhile criticism of BP was intensifying for apparently underestimating the scale of the disaster.

The British oil giant faces questions over how much it knew about previous problems with “blowout preventers”, the giant underwater valves designed to shut down oil flow in the event of accidents.

The valves on the rig failed to work after it exploded on April 20. BP technicians have been unable to activate them even though they appear to be undamaged by the blast.

BP has calculated that it might take up to three months to sink a new well that could cut off the flow of the Deepwater Horizon’s oil.

The worst oil spill affecting US waters was caused by a 1979 blowout aboard the Ixtoc, a Mexican rig that discharged at least 130 million gallons, 600 miles south of the Texas coast. It took nine months to plug the leak.

I am me, I am free
2nd May 2010, 10:59 AM
link please

Ponce
2nd May 2010, 11:02 AM
I posted the whole thing.......

MoShaniqua
2nd May 2010, 11:03 AM
Here's some interesting commentary on the situation by Paul Noel, who is said to have extensive knowledge in the Oil and Gas industry.

"They've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that.

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work."


http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oc eans/

Carbon
2nd May 2010, 11:16 AM
I posted the whole thing.......


No link - no source.

Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7113708.ece

StackerKen
2nd May 2010, 11:26 AM
Pretty crazy stuff... ???

Gaillo
2nd May 2010, 12:18 PM
Pretty crazy stuff... ???


You think THAT's crazy, wait until you see gas prices this summer. And the prices of everything that needs to be transported using fuel (wait... that's pretty much... EVERYTHING!). :o

gunDriller
2nd May 2010, 12:20 PM
Here's some interesting commentary on the situation by Paul Noel, who is said to have extensive knowledge in the Oil and Gas industry.

"They've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that.

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

i wonder if they call that rigging. when i worked at SLAC, the guys that moved the heavy stuff (10 ton particle detectors) were called "riggers".

of course the oil rig weighs a heck of a lot more than 10 tons.

i think they will be able to lift the rig off the well within 6 months.

in the meantime, they're trying to drill into it from the side to put a cap on it.

but at the rate it's emitting oil - this is going to be so much worse than the Exxon Valdez incident. and because of where it's happening - Jesus it will not be good for the economy AND it will reduce food inputs to the local residents.


it's hard to model the effect of a nuclear bomb. how can they know that that would cap the well, and not increase the flow rate ? no matter how much simulation and analysis they do, it's still a SWAG (scientific wild assed guess).

once the oil reaches the shores of Florida - i don't understand how the stock markets could do anything but go down.

and they could take silver with them. so there might be another buying opportunity there but it comes at a pretty grim price.


it makes me wonder if Obama will eventually use martial law in conjunction with US troops to deal with the situation.

StackerKen
2nd May 2010, 12:25 PM
Pretty crazy stuff... ???


You think THAT's crazy, wait until you see gas prices this summer. And the prices of everything that needs to be transported using fuel (wait... that's pretty much... EVERYTHING!). :o


Yep...I hear ya.

and between that and the honeybee thing....things may get even crazier...

could this be A Disaster of ‘Biblical’ Proportions?