Lucifer is a Latin word literally meaning "light-bearer"

[singular_me]

I know I will be branded as an heretic here and couldnt care less. Since I stated many times my belief in "universal dualities" created by the same source: GOD.

It makes sense to me that Light is knowledge and it can be used for the best of the wose. I can see why Lucifer became the Devil, since it also implies the freedom of choice and the temptation to choose knowledge to enslave and decieve... and by extension, the Fire Of Hell.

The elites were extremely cleaver to rename the Bearer of Light as The Devil. Corrupted the meaning. Masses' fear of Knowledge has done wonders and play right into their hands, and they thus are responsible for him to have become "the fallen angel". Power has been evil since the beginning of Mankind.

PS: I speak Dutch and lucifer is also the name for a match in Dutch.

Ultimately Lucifer means the power of intention that is in each of us. I also can see why the Bible defines Man as born in sin. We all are capable of committing evil. The **curse** will go away when realizing the deception that has been perpetrated...and look at ourselves in a mirror, asking if we wish all the evil in the world to continue. It is up to us to take responsibility, gettkng rid of our own ditechtomy and act upon it.

Christ = all liove that is... Lucifer= all knowledge that is ... both dualities are from the same Unifying Principle or God... the NWO uses both dualities in a wicked fashion: abuse of Knowledge under (good for them) the pretense to do Good (evil for them).

We have been had. The only thing that truly matters in the end is not to worship "fear and the abuse of knowkedge" .


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Christian Churches of God
The term Lucifer is attributed to Satan as a name. The term has become personalised and has taken on a negative sense. Similarly, the term Morning Star has been attributed to Christ in a personalised fashion. When the Bible appears to refer to Satan as Day Star or Morning Star and to Christ as the Light-bearer, which is the sense of Lucifer, people apply the names in this personalised way and come to the wrong conclusion. Some have even gone to the extent of confusing Christ with Satan.
http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p223.html

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Lucifer is a Latin word (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning "light-bearer", which in that language is used as a name for the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, heralding daylight. Use of the word in this sense is uncommon in English, in which "Day Star" or "Morning Star" are more common expressions.

In English, "Lucifer" generally refers to Satan, although the name is not applied to him in the New Testament. The use of the name "Lucifer" in reference to a fallen angel stems from an interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that speaks of a particular Babylonian King, to whom it gives the title of "Day Star", "Morning Star" (in Latin, lucifer),[2] as fallen or destined to fall from the heavens or sky.[3] In 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere, the same Latin word lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation to the devil. However, in post-New Testament times the Latin word Lucifer has often been used as a name for the devil, both in religious writing and in fiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

[7th trump]

Yep it sure does. Lunar, as in moon, is the same thing. Lunatic is to. Lunar, lunatic, lucifer all derive from the same source. It has a significance in the Bible.
You claim you've read the Bible Singular, but I'm not sure you really did. satan since his down fall always tried to minic Jesus Christ which is satans down fall. satan is gonna fool the world when he appears at 666 to play act as Jesus Christ. how else can the devil fool the world into worshipping him? lucifer cannot fool the world into woshipping him if everybody knows hes the devil. The devil cannot go around whacking heads off.....................who'd worship him then?
In fact, if you ever read Ezekiel 28 verse 18 and 19 (I beleive those are the correct verses) God condems satan to death for wanting to be the Mercy seat (Jesus Christ). satan took 1/3 of Gods children away from worshipping God so satan was condemed to death by God Himself.
Since then God refers to satan as lunar. When ever you read in the Bible, if you actually read the Bible, God talk about satan in the format of lunar months from full moon to full moon, night time. Moon being a weak light source in comparison to the sun which the moon reflects light and not the source of light.
Jesus Christ is always solar as in the sun, day, source of light.
So if you ever read the Bible Singular, you'd know that in Ezekiel, God condemed satan to death for attempting to overthrough God by getting 1/3 of Gods children to worship satan instead of this wacked out theory of yours that holds no water what so ever to the truth found in the Bible.

[7th trump]

Here it is for you Singular. This is where God condems the prince of Tyrus (satan) to death for rising himself up as Jesus Christ.
Remember Singular, satan was a gaurdian Cherub until he wanted to be Jesus Christ. God allows satan that chance of play acting as Jesus Christ not to far in the coming future when satan appears at 666.

And one more thing Singular. What happens to your theory that satan is "all knowldege" when God does destroy satan from within to ashes?
There will not be anymore negative in the universe as satan is gone destroyed to ashes so what know? How is your theory of equalilty of negativity and positivity going to work out when no negativity exists?

You didnt read the Bible did you? You just fill in where you dont understand what you are talking about.




<< Ezekiel 28 >>
King James Version

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1The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
2Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

3Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

4With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:

5By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

6Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;

7Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.

8They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

9Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

10Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

20Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 21Son of man, set thy face against Zidon, and prophesy against it,

22And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Zidon; and I will be glorified in the midst of thee: and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall have executed judgments in her, and shall be sanctified in her.

23For I will send into her pestilence, and blood into her streets; and the wounded shall be judged in the midst of her by the sword upon her on every side; and they shall know that I am the LORD.

24And there shall be no more a pricking brier unto the house of Israel, nor any grieving thorn of all that are round about them, that despised them; and they shall know that I am the Lord GOD.

25Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob. 26And they shall dwell safely therein, and shall build houses, and plant vineyards; yea, they shall dwell with confidence, when I have executed judgments upon all those that despise them round about them; and they shall know that I am the LORD their God.

[singular_me]

if you dont see why it is the power of intentions the root cause of all evil and all good, that is your problem, 7th Trump.

I dont subscribe to any derived form of paranoia that prevents from looking into "one self"

[7th trump]

Well while you are at looking into "oneself" maybe you'll see that 666 is not a triangle and God is not below satan and satan is not all knowledge that God resides in.
Clearly in Ezekiel 28 God says He's going to destroy satan so their goes your false prophesy you are pushing up in smoke.
Maybe thats why nobody is really following you...........?

[7th trump]

if you dont see why it is the power of intentions the root cause of all evil and all good, that is your problem, 7th Trump.

I dont subscribe to any derived form of paranoia that prevents from looking into "one self"

Actually if you are wise enough to see it, the root cause of all evil is the greed of power. Look what happen to satan! He wanted to be the Mercy seat (Jesus Christ) and it got him nothing but eternal perdition.
"Intention" is free will and is not power Singular. Look at intention like a door. A door doesnt give good or evil power. Evil is still evil and good is still good with or without the door.
666 is not a triangle representing an equal between good or evil, its an event to take place in the not too far distant future where satan appears to play act as Jesus Christ.
"Evil" is the opposite "live" and "devil" is the "lived" backwards. Kinda goes along with what is going to happen to satan. hes going to be truned to ashes from within. "Lived" alright as in past tense.

[singular_me]

what you say fits the b iblical meaning 100%, I wont discuss that so we have reached a dead end

alas I refuse to stick to one and sole texbook to base my opinion. People who do this allow the evil to continue. We are here to share findings and compare, then adjust our thinking accordingly.

Look at what the average bible beliver thinks about the devil, so you will grasp why they dont get it and endorse global socialism (enforcing good IS good) , and why we are deep shyt.

[7th trump]

what you say fits the b iblical meaning 100%, I wont discuss that so we have reached a dead end

alas I refuse to stick to one and sole texbook to base my opinion. People who do this allow the evil to continue. We are here to share findings and compare, then adjust our thinking accordingly.

Look at what the average bible beliver thinks about the devil, so you will grasp why they dont get it and endorse global socialism (enforcing good IS good) , and why we are deep shyt.







They dont understand the devil because they refuse to read the Bible to understand it, but instead resort to the mind trying to fill in where they know not. Thats why they are in deep shyt. This is why the world is going to follow satan at the 666 because of people like you spreading lies and distorts away from the truth of the matter.
You are a perfect example of failure because you would rather listen to your very own new age crap that satan is "all knowledge" than our Father who is the Alpha and the Omega and in complete control.

[singular_me]

here is example of the power of intention... let me put this ina language that everybody comprehends...

a hunting knife can help save your life in the wilderness
alas
one can only use it to murder one's entire family

this is the absolute proof that the knife is NOT dangerous as long as you have made ethical choices.

So is the devil concept: one can use knowledge to harm

Unfortunately the bible says that the devil is inherently bad... so is the knife???

Only free will can determine what is BAD/EVIL.

devil, lucifer whonever you want call it/him, depends on people's (neurotic) projections, reality.

I am glad that I solved this dilemma for myself and I only can encourage others to do the same asap.

the biblical devil is a delusion.

[StackerKen]

Goldie;
Satan is a Deceiver. He always has been.

I'm afraid he has you right where he wants you.

I'm praying for you.

Ken

[7th trump]

I pray for you as well Singular. God hopes if you read His Book, and I as well, that you will know the false messiah standing in Jerusalem play acting Jesus Christ is satan and that you change your ways when you see the Elect get brought up to death (satan) and witness against him. You will hear God himself speak through these Elect exposing the fraud satan is perpetrating to the world.
Singular when you see the ten day trials of the Elect witnessing take place and the two witnesses murdered and left on the street of Jerusalem for display you have only three days counting from sun up to sun up until the 7th trump (return of the real Jesusu Christ) is sounded. After that if you have not come to a change of heart and remained fooled into worshipping satan you will wish the mountains would cover you out of shame.
On the 7th trump the vail is lifted, we change in a twinkle of an eye and you will see who you were really worshipping.
The world is never going to expect they are worshipping satan and thus the return of Christ will be like a thief in the night, totally unexpected. Much nashing of teeth and weeping!

[singular_me]

Actually if you are wise enough to see it, the root cause of all evil is the greed of power.

and if people could see the Light, get how fooled they have been,, I am willing to bet with you that they would become a lot greedier to defend themselves... and this would balance the world. The power would shift dramatically from the very few toward the masses.

so are greed/power evil... in this particular case, there are not Evil/Good are not constant values. It all depends on one's purposes. Nothing in the Universe is constant, the values of good/eivil have to be analyzed case by case.

gotta go digging holes

[7th trump]

satan is gonna fool the world when he appears at 666 to play act as Jesus Christ.


could you please provide the verse number for the apearing of Satan?

the Seals
Rev 6:1 --- Rev 8:5

The Trumpets
Rev 8:6 --- Rev 11:19

The Bowls
Rev 15:1 --- Rev 16:21

So far I can't quite understand when exactly Satan appears according to your understanding

You can count to 7 right?
satan appears at the 6th trumpet, the 6th seal, and 6th vail. Read each and everyone of those passages.

[7th trump]

Actually if you are wise enough to see it


How the self-proclaimed pre-supposition of you to be wiser than the rest of us here is not pride in itself? ;D

No, its not pride, but.......................understanding.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." Rev. 13:18

[7th trump]

Actually if you are wise enough to see it, the root cause of all evil is the greed of power.

and if people could see the Light, get how fooled they have been,, I am willing to bet with you that they would become a lot greedier to defend themselves... and this would balance the world. The power would shift dramatically from the very few toward the masses.
( Naaa.......they wouldnt get greedier. Those with knowledge shed earthly possessions. The powers wouldnt want them because they hold nothing the powers want. Why do you think God said that satan cannot touch his annointed ones? Its not because God said you will not touch them, its because those who know are not tempted by satan. satan is powerless over them. Why do you think they are brought up to death (satan)? To allow God to speak through them to the multitude who are worshipping a fake messiah.)

so are greed/power evil... in this particular case, there are not Evil/Good are not constant values. It all depends on one's purposes. Nothing in the Universe is constant, the values of good/eivil have to be analyzed case by case.
(What do "constants" have to do with God warning you about worshipping a false messiah?)

gotta go digging holes

[7th trump]

Actually if you are wise enough to see it, the root cause of all evil is the greed of power.


"greed of power" is not the root but only a derivative of pride

pride is desire to be something greater than you actually are
(first time you said anything worth reading)

Source of evil is in Satan's quest for "equal rights" through self-evolution by the means of secret knowledge
( Oh...My.. God!!!!
Equal rights???????? satan was a guardian Cherub of Christ (not many get that high on the totem pole.............God adored satan until satan became evil. satan wasnt always evil. satan walked in the midst of God and Jesus from the day God created satan. God made satan the full package because satan earned it until satan fell by rising his heart above (pride).
Since when has it been satan quest for equal rights? satan murdered Jesus on the cross. And because of that its now easier for God to destroy satan with fire from within, burnt to ashes)

[singular_me]

7thTrump, your reality and mine form a vortex, and we are both part of the Great picture, All That Is, created by God...


( Naaa.......they wouldnt get greedier. Those with knowledge shed earthly possessions. The powers wouldnt want them because they hold nothing the powers want. Why do you think God said that satan cannot touch his annointed ones? Its not because God said you will not touch them, its because those who know are not tempted by satan. satan is powerless over them. Why do you think they are brought up to death (satan)? To allow God to speak through them to the multitude who are worshipping a fake messiah.)

Agsin, greed has been turned negative by the Church. Example, if you have understood the fraud of the money printing press, you will automacially want the gold standard and abolish taxation, allof which would allow you too keep ALL your hard earned money for yourself and use it how/when you see it. Correct?

If you want to be greedy and keep every penny til the end of you life, accumulate just for the sake of accumulation, it is fine too if money was earned ethically... as long as you do not seek to harm people with your weakth, who cares? Your money will profit others eventually after your death. Maybe the very same person will have been labelled as "greedy" while among the lving but what if iwe discovered that he donated all his wealth to some foundaitions working for the bettement of Mandkind, wias this individual reallygreedy??? This to say that greed can also have a positive meaning. That's the one i was referring to in my earlier posting.

The same for power/force, if you used it to enforce free will and self-responsibility it can NEVER go bad, becaiuse such a power and force dont use any Fear-based concept.

all this to explain why I dont believe in Lucifer, as portrayed in the Bible. He is used as device to fragment people's mind, so they never can find out about the "unifiying Principle of Dualities", which is key to develop harmony and peace. .

enough said.

[7th trump]

yes it is equal rights. To be equal with most High.

Isa 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

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back to you theories

I am still not following you. Where is the Bible quotes?

you said

satan appears at the 6th trumpet, the 6th seal, and 6th vail.

Do you mean that Satan will appear three times? ???

No, 666 is representation of the 6th seal, 6th vail, and the 6th trumpet. All three combined.
read Revelations.
The created cannot be higher than the Creator. satan wanted to be worshipped like Christ. There are no rights involved. Thats just silly if you ask me and you are confusing yourself with this ego of yours.
Everybody is equal and you can do what ever you want as long as you follow Gods Commandments, Laws and Precepts. Even God follows His same Rules through Jesus.

[7th trump]

7thTrump, your reality and mine form a vortex, and we are both part of the Great picture, All That Is, created by God...


( Naaa.......they wouldnt get greedier. Those with knowledge shed earthly possessions. The powers wouldnt want them because they hold nothing the powers want. Why do you think God said that satan cannot touch his annointed ones? Its not because God said you will not touch them, its because those who know are not tempted by satan. satan is powerless over them. Why do you think they are brought up to death (satan)? To allow God to speak through them to the multitude who are worshipping a fake messiah.)

Agsin, greed has been turned negative by the Church. Example, if you have understood the fraud of the money printing press, you will automacially want the gold standard and abolish taxation, allof which would allow you too keep ALL your hard earned money for yourself and use it how/when you see it. Correct?

If you want to be greedy and keep every penny til the end of you life, accumulate just for the sake of accumulation, it is fine too if money was earned ethically... as long as you do not seek to harm people with your weakth, who cares? Your money will profit others eventually after your death. Maybe the very same person will have been labelled as "greedy" while among the lving but what if iwe discovered that he donated all his wealth to some foundaitions working for the bettement of Mandkind, wias this individual reallygreedy??? This to say that greed can also have a positive meaning. That's the one i was referring to in my earlier posting.

The same for power/force, if you used it to enforce free will and self-responsibility it can NEVER go bad, becaiuse such a power and force dont use any Fear-based concept.

all this to explain why I dont believe in Lucifer, as portrayed in the Bible. He is used as device to fragment people's mind, so they never can find out about the "unifiying Principle of Dualities", which is key to develop harmony and peace. .

enough said.



There are no dualities.
satan is not "all knowledge" which you say God resides in.
God is the alpha and the omega.
You have free will to choose who you are going to serve, nothing more and nothing less.

[singular_me]

although she knew that fear, not hatred, was that the nemesis of love.

sorry if you dont see and cannot interpret them... they are all around you.They all come from the power of the intent. All that is is Love... and all knowledge that is, is there to teach us that.

ooh shoot, I just ealized that there may be a egg- chicken dilemma in here. Indeed which comes first: Kowledge or Love? Buit thats for aniother thread if I have the energy to begin with.

[jedemdasseine]

Lucifer was his name when he was an angel in the host of Heaven. After his revolt against God, he fell from heaven and became Satan.

[singular_me]

Lucifer was his name when he was an angel in the host of Heaven. After his revolt against God, he fell from heaven and became Satan.



you just posted the archetype answer, which goes along with the bible explanation...

The problem is that in the beginning there was Darkness first... Light came second...

Light is knowledge and the manifestation of Life coming out of Darkness.

Merely pointing this out to show how dualities interact together. And why everything can easily be twisted.

Today Darkness/Nothingness means evil... so evil is the beginning of everything. Just playing the "devil advocate" here. ;D

Mind boggling, indeed.

[7th trump]

Lucifer was his name when he was an angel in the host of Heaven. After his revolt against God, he fell from heaven and became Satan.



you just posted the archetype answer, which goes along with the bible explanation...

The problem is that in the beginning there was Darkness first... Light came second...
(Just for shyts and gigles Goldie who had to be already there to make the light?.....God was and Jesus (Emanuel= God with us) is God. Also, God created lucifer after the first creating the light so who are you going to explain that in your thesis?)

Light is knowledge and the manifestation of Life coming out of Darkness.
( So now you are changing and morphing to say "light is knowledge" when just yesterday you said that satan is "all knowledge"????............................which is it?
Maybe, just maybe, light means exactly what it means..............light and not this knowledge. Seems to me you are putting the ox before the ox cart.)

Merely pointing this out to show how dualities interact together. And why everything can easily be twisted.
(There are no dualities and its not easily twisted. What you are trying to do and its most evident is trying to wrap, warp, twist the truth to conform to your beleif standards. If you are going to have your own beleif system I'd suggest not injecting the Bible into it. The Bible will prove you wrong in every account)

Today Darkness/Nothingness means evil... so evil is the beginning of everything. Just playing the "devil advocate" here. ;D
(again you are trying to prove satan is above God when clearly in Ezekiel 28 God created lucifer. See God is calling you a liar and a twister of the truth. It was God who created light in the beginning not lucifer who wasnt yet created. Evil wasnt around until lucifer (created by God) revolted against God.
Why is it you have such a strong beleif in satan?
satan is a dead angel walking. satan is the only one that God personally addresses (sentenced to death) to turn to ashes from within.......hes a loser!)

Mind boggling, indeed.

[singular_me]

( So now you are changing and morphing to say "light is knowledge" when just yesterday you said that satan is "all knowledge"Huh??............................which is it?'

you are pulling the hair... I cannot retype each wordd every time...

Light is all knowledge that is, period... a concept that has been out there for millennia.

I didnt say Satan, since I dont believe in him, sorry I can retype my diatribe agaiin.

I am merely referring to the latin translation and comparing it with the concept that of Light as All Knowledge that is

[singular_me]

(again you are trying to prove satan is above God when clearly in Ezekiel 28 God created lucifer. See God is calling you a liar and a twister of the truth. It was God who created light in the beginning not lucifer who wasnt yet created. Evil wasnt around until lucifer (created by God) revolted against God.
Why is it you have such a strong beleif in satan?
satan is a dead angel walking. satan is the only one that God personally addresses (sentenced to death) to turn to ashes from within.......hes a loser!)

no... no...and NOOOO... I am playing with dualities saying that opposites needs one another to exist. Without Night, Day wouldnt exist and otherwise. Darkness is thus necessary, as much as Light... it is all about physics... that is why religious doctrines are at odds with sciences. Sciences explain what religions would rather not addres, pefer to evade... time for a final battle it seems...

I changed my avatar, this is the Torus as discovered by sacred geomtery and confirmed by modern quantum physics... At the center you see a black dot. This is the spirit of God which manifests itself by generating a vortext around him/it, Just as black holes, which are the wombs of the Universe, God is a Tetra-Mega-Giga massive Black Hole... No wonder as why The Nature of Darkness cannot be questioned. And we only can find an answer if we study the Nature Of Light, which sends us back to the Black Dot...

if you seen something evil in what I say... so be it. There is no Devil... only all that is: Love and Light. Evil manifests when we fail to grasp all this. because evil cannot sustain itself and destroyed by Truth, it does not exist. It is a figment of our imagination because we do not posses the All Knoeldeg that is.

[7th trump]

(again you are trying to prove satan is above God when clearly in Ezekiel 28 God created lucifer. See God is calling you a liar and a twister of the truth. It was God who created light in the beginning not lucifer who wasnt yet created. Evil wasnt around until lucifer (created by God) revolted against God.
Why is it you have such a strong beleif in satan?
satan is a dead angel walking. satan is the only one that God personally addresses (sentenced to death) to turn to ashes from within.......hes a loser!)

no... no...and NOOOO... I am playing with dualities saying that opposites needs one another to exist. Without Night, Day wouldnt exist and otherwise. Darkness is thus necessary, as much is Light... it is all about physics... that is why religious doctrines are at odds with sciences. Sciences explain what religions would rather not addres, pefer to evade... time for a final battle it seems...

I changed my avatar, this is the Torus as discovered by sacred geomtery and confirmed by modern quantum physics... At the center you see a black dot. This is the spirit of God which manifests itself by generting a vortext around him, Just as black holes, which are the wombs of the Universe, God is a Tetra-Mega-Giga massive Black Hole... No wonder as why The Nature of Darkness cannot be questioned. And we only can find an answer if we study the Nature Of Light, which sends us back to the Black Dot...

if you seen something evil in what I say... so be it.

How do you know the black dot is the spirit of God?
How do you know there is a vortex around God?
How do you know God is a tetra-mega-giga black hole?

You really have yourself in a quandry dont you. Must be tortorous to be injecting this stuff into the Bible.
God made everybody for His pleasure and all you need to know at this time is who are you going to follow................christ or satan. You want eternal life or death? You could have an eternity to study and learn physics all you want, but at this point in time since satan revolt God needs to know who you are going to follow. Eternity is not going any further until God knows if you are going to follow satan and tests each and everyone of us. Until then forget about physics. Jesus told us He has said all that we need to know. We are just at a hickup or ripple of eternity until each and everyone of us decides. Paradice continues afterwards.
Who's really gonna care about quantum physics in paradise?
Let God deal with physics..............Hes the master of arithmatic anyway. Made it all including you.

[singular_me]

How do you know the black dot is the spirit of God?
How do you know there is a vortex around God?
How do you know God is a tetra-mega-giga black hole?

because every atom and galaxy spin, rotate around an axis... we find the same structure in everything.

earth too has a vortex, created by the Noth and south Hemisphere... at the equator, both magnetic fields repel each other. even further, all living structure is kept alive by a double Torus.

everything spins... the entire universe is terta-giga-mega vortex, sustained by a Black Dot. Abosute Darkeness. Because we caonot see what happens iinside black holes, only Light allows us to witness them

There is a black hole at the center of every galaxy, indeed how do you know it is there... follow the Light.

[singular_me]

God is not separated from his creation, he is the all in one... Darkness and Light... fear of Darkness is a plot against Mankind.


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040528/040528_blackhole_hmed_1130a.hmedium.jpg

http://rockdalerm1.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/black_hole_big_2_3.jpg

http://www.gweep.net/~jedi/pmwiki/pub/skins/monobook/black_hole_lores1280.jpg

[StackerKen]

Revelation 22:5 (New International Version)

There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.

[7th trump]

How do you know the black dot is the spirit of God?
How do you know there is a vortex around God?
How do you know God is a tetra-mega-giga black hole?

because every atom and galaxy spin, rotate around an axis... we find the same structure in everything.

earth too has a vortex, created by the Noth and south Hemisphere... at the equator, both magnetic fields repel each other. even further, all living structure is kept alive by a double Torus.

everything spins... the entire universe is terta-giga-mega vortex, sustained by a Black Dot. Abosute Darkeness. Because we caonot see what happens iinside black holes, only Light allows us to witness them

There is a black hole at the center of every galaxy, indeed how do you know it is there... follow the Light.





Whats this have to do with you?

[singular_me]

important correction.

The Universe is an infinite Torus/Vortex.... I needed to correct that.

And the Torus is observable at every level of the creation...

[singular_me]

Whats this have to do with you?

a human body contains as many vortices as its atomic number. this is the same universal energy flowing in us.

In fact the vortex theory shows that negative/darkness is vital to its function. Negative is here to stay. On a human level negative energy has to be handled indivually. There is no satan out there lurking.

[7th trump]

Whats this have to do with you?

a human body contains as many vortices as its atomic number. this is the same universal energy flowing in us.




So what!
You die and the body rots back to dirt.

[singular_me]

So what!
You die and the body rots back to dirt.

.. sorry pal, atoms never stop spinning, in decomposition of not, dirt included. The state of Rest doesnt exist for any living things. Only God's Mind, The Aether or Dark Matter, is at Rest. That is why we cannot see it.

I would suggest you to read the Universal One, By Walter Russells.

Now if you believe in Universal energy, Consciousness, recycling itself endlessly, your spirit goes back where it came from, That is why people who have had a NDE have all seen a Loving Light... even Light spins otherwise it wouldnt travel through space..

Indeed why is Dark Matter called this way... is it related to The Darkness where the Light is coming from?

the plot thickens

[singular_me]

Revelation 22:5 (New International Version)

There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.


In my view, it is a metaphor for saying that every man will see the Light within him.... and understand the Nature Of Light.

Unless the cosmos goes through a Big Crunch, Darnkness is here to stay and follow, or precede the Light cycles. Both are interweaving endlessly.

But even the big crunch might iself be just a transition before the Universe infltes, expands again... kind like a heart pulsing. Just speculating here...

[7th trump]

So what!
You die and the body rots back to dirt.

.. sorry pal, atoms never stop spinning, in decomposition of not, dirt included. The state of Rest doesnt exist for any living things. Only God's Mind, The Aether or Dark Matter, is at Rest. That is why we cannot see it.

I would suggest you to read the Universal One, By Walter Russells.

Now if you believe in Universal energy, Consciousness, recycling itself endlessly, your spirit goes back where it came from, That is why people who have had a NDE have all seen a Loving Light... even Light spins otherwise it wouldnt travel through space..

Indeed why is Dark Matter called this way... is it related to The Darkness where the Light is coming from?

the plot thickens

Yea the plot thinkens alright, only in your mind Singular.
You just dont get it do you.
Why would God create a body that eventualy goes back to where it came from. What purpose is the flesh Singular?
I mean you have side tracked every inportant question spoken to you and you come back with some made up beleif that you can not even back.

[StackerKen]

Im pretty sure that one day, there will be No more darkness

[singular_me]

You just dont get it do you.
Why would God create a body that eventualy goes back to where it came from. What purpose is the flesh Singular?

I mean you have side tracked every inportant question spoken to you and you come back with some made up beleif that you can not even back.

There is no side tracking, we just are on different wave lenghts, magnetic resonnances. we just cannot answer each other questions because our premises are completely different. Frustration goes both ways. The proof of dualities at work. You expect from me something that I cannot give and otherwise. Your journey and mine are worlds apart, both are valuable...

I think you framed yourself by by just going off topic on purpose. But the meaning of life is an important question impossible to escape. Do you know how my spiritualists, philosophers and existentialists have pondered this questions - and still do? So really I make no claim that I have found out... and deep inside me, this inner voice tells me that there is no real answer, it just depends on one's consciousness/awareness level. All meanings of life are correct... because we cannot put ourselves in the other's shoes.

But if you wish, it is up to you to attain the Christ or Buddha's Consciousness - that of selflessness and compassion and just BE. In my view it is the purpose of life. It doesnt mean that I am about to get there soon but I can try one step the time. In the Greater Reality, God's Mind merely experiences itself by creating all living creatures and Matter. His thoughts, just like ours, create His own Infinite Reality. I know this is mind boggling but feel like this complex question has a simple answer. JUST BE... and the Flesh is just a vehicle to achieve that. By extension, our flesh (and other living things) is that of God. His Thoughts conceived us - our essence is divine by nature.

What you dont get is that the Greater Reality has room for all of us and our duty is to share everything we know constantly without any resistance. Because if as soon as we resist, extreme polarization sets into motion and will eventually send us back to the middle and not always in the smoothest fashion... some call it Judgement Day.

[7th trump]

You just dont get it do you.
Why would God create a body that eventualy goes back to where it came from. What purpose is the flesh Singular?

I mean you have side tracked every inportant question spoken to you and you come back with some made up beleif that you can not even back.

There is no side tracking, we just as on different wave lenghts, magnetic resonnances. we just cannot answer each other questions because our premises are completely different. Frustration goes both ways. The proof of dualities at work. You expect from me something that I cannot give and otherwise. Your journey and mine are worlds apart, both are valuable...

I think you framed yourself by by just going off topic on purpose. But the meaning of life is an important question impossible to escape. Do you know how my spiritualists, philosophers and existentialists have pondered this questions - and still do? So really I make no claim that I have found out... and deep inside me, this inner voice tells me that there is no real answer, it just depends on one's consciousness/awareness level. All meanings of life are correct... because we cannot put ourselves in the other's shoes.

But if you wish, it is up to you to attain the Christ or Buddha's Consciousness - that of selflessness and compassion and just BE. In my view it is the purpose of life. It doesnt mean that I am about to get there soon but I can try one step the time. In the Greater Reality, God's Mind merely experiences itself by creating all living creatures and Matter. His thoughts, just like ours, create His own Infinite Reality. I know this is mind boggling but feel like this complex question has a simple answer. JUST BE... and the Flesh is just a vehicle to achieve that. By extension, our flesh (and other living things) is that of God. His Thoughts conceived us - our essence is dvine by nature.

What you dont get is that the Greater Reality has room for ll of us and our duty is to share everything we know constantly without any resistance. Because if as soon as we resist, extreme polarization sets into motion and will eventually send us back to the middle and not always in the smoothest fashion... some call it Judgement Day.

You really like that new age crap dont you?
Gods not going to stop you from dilluting yourself. In fact, he pour dillusion on you.
Keep drinking the kool-aid Singular.

[singular_me]

You really like that new age crap dont you?

by saying this, again you framed yourself... there is no new age crap... you perceived it this way becuse it doesnt fit your reality.

Buddha and quantum physics = new age crap...

7th you make yourself look like a butt now... have I hit a nerve?

just google Holographic principle and Quantum Physics, and you may understand why reality is only what you think it is. If you can stretch it.

[7th trump]

You really like that new age crap dont you?

by saying this, again you framed yourself... there is no new age crap... you perceived it this say becuse it doesnt fit your reality.

Buddha and quantum physics = new age crap...

7th you make yourself look like a butt now... have I hit a nerve?

just google Holographic principle and Quantum Physics, and you may understand why reality is only what you think it is. If you can stretch it.







hahahaha................OK??????

[singular_me]

just let it go - dont intervene in the others' thread when they are not your cup of tea... this is my thread and I have given the best answers to my knowledge and according to my life experience... you are welcome at any time if you leave the devil in the company of the coat-check person :gwing

[7th trump]

just let it go - dont intervene in the others' thread when they are not your cup of tea... this is my thread and I have given the best answers to my knowledge and according to my life experience... you are welcome at any time if you leave the devil in the company of the coat-check person :gwing







Good riddence!

[MAGNES]

the NWO uses both dualities in a wicked fashion: abuse of Knowledge under (good for them) the pretense to do Good (evil for them).


You promote NWO lies and garbage,
occult nonsense, masonic nonsense.

You should be ashamed of yourself
with all the corruptions you have posted.

I already explained my beefs with you.
People should read it, I am one of the only
and first persons to confront goldissima on
her methods and corruptions.

goldissima is one of the greatest deceivers ever on gim.

Now after being confronted she is more open about it
in this thread and just making stuff up as she goes along.

She gets her info and links from Occult sites, it
is all corruptions and lies, inaccuracies, they are
motivated by hate for The West and Christianity,
real history, real knowledge, creation of real societies,
she is open borders too, surprise, lol .

She is a case study, what the occult does
she is doing on here on a personal level,
skyvike did the same, he banned people
to steer the site his way, they are allied too.

See my posts, page 1 page 3.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/parallel-universes-exist-time-travel-possible-(tough-one-for-religions)/

[Book]

You promote NWO lies and garbage,
occult nonsense, masonic nonsense.

You should be ashamed of yourself
with all the corruptions you have posted.

I already explained my beefs with you.
People should read it, I am one of the only
and first persons to confront goldissima on
her methods and corruptions.

goldissima is one of the greatest deceivers ever on gim.

Now after being confronted she is more open about it
in this thread and just making stuff up as she goes along.


She is spamming the goyim here hard for her two websites:

http://www.monetarydecay.com/
http://www.singularityawareness.net/

:oo-->

[singular_me]

goldissima is one of the greatest deceivers ever on gim.

She is spamming the goyim here hard for her two websites:


:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

I must have hit a nerve..

the All In One, The All That, ALL is LOVE Is has been around for 6,000 years... time for the two of you to get in touch with History...

you do not understand the power of the intent, that makes ALL DUALITIES work both ways. .it is not my fault if the elites KNOW about it and use it AGAINST us/you.

You game is clrear now: you are with or against us, talk of extremsm and radicalism, I hardly doubt it is the message of Christ... I have chosen to be on my owm, independent free thinker and spiritualist.


I NEVER read Blavatsky by the way... but she is out there and people need to know about her "secret society".

[Book]

the All In One, The All That Is has been around for 6,000 years...



http://www.monetarydecay.com/
http://www.singularityawareness.net/

Flee from NYC to sell your Cosmic Bagel to the naive goyim in the South West:

:oo-->

[MAGNES]

I NEVER read Blavatsky by the way... but she is out there and people need to know about her "secret society".


You promote much of the same beliefs she has.

Same corruptions, methods, etc .

I don't believe you if you tell me you do not know her,
you disappeared on me when I mentioned her name in
Zeitgeist thread, posts before that you were promoting
"new age" writers and ideas and I told you they sounded
like Plato/Platonists, you came back said more, "new",
I said, "you just made a stronger case, sounds like PLato/Platonists",
so either you don't know anything or you are playing dumb.

I started to figure you out around that time, about a year ago.

The reason why you pretend not to follow or know that person
is she is easy to discredit and laugh at, just the same with masons,
Pike, lol, easy to shame.

I think you know a lot more and what you do is on purpose.

The greatest issue I had with you is posting corruptions of history.
And you were confronted and you come up with funny answers or
ignore them. Even Ruskie the mason confronted you.

And guess what, you do exactly what the person that you claim not
to know does. The occult has a hatred for the West, real knowledge,
the classics, classical philosophers, ripping them off and corrupting them,
you and them have no business mentioning their names mixed
in with your theories that are made up nonsense in many cases.

You claim not to know them, read her, etc but you promote
their works, like ZeitGeist.

I confronted you on you Constantine post,
a joke of a post, doing their works, hatred
of Greeks as well, the occult has a hard on for
Constantine, his name keeps coming up,
the Jews turned the name Byzantine into a dirty
word too. Then I researched the "prof " and find
a pig of a liar that sees visions of "lucifer".
How not surprising.

That is what started all of this. Read it.
You called yourself a devil worshiper too.
And you like the "symbol" of your teacher.
That you claim you do not know while you
do the exact same works in general she does.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/parallel-universes-exist-time-travel-possible-(tough-one-for-religions)/


Goldie posts like a troll , like her previous posts never existed.






Popular among some theosophists,

HT, a member?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy



I like that image you posted... it says it all. They all share the same roots, alas diviseness must be sustained. The direct result is religious war. I feel sorry for the world' spiritual state of affairs.


She worships the talisman that has voodoo powers according
to them. Symbols, numbers, they use these numbers of power
and symbols like voodoo, like the witch doctors in Africa,
they kill people too, like 11 11 , Nov 11, 9 11, 3 22 , etc
Even skyvike in email goes," I know plato the mathmetician",
funny, he revealed they do exactly what I state, steal , corrupt,
the numbers have power, etc, they believe in superstitious beliefs
as they mock and attack others. Plato was a mason, ROFL.

[MAGNES]

time for the two of you to get in touch with History...

You game is clrear now: you are with or against us, talk of extremsm and radicalism, I hardly doubt it is the message of Christ... I have chosen to be on my owm, independent free thinker and spiritualist.


For someone that joined an alien worshiping cult,
paid to be there and lived in a mushroom pod
with a regulated controlled environment,
commune , kibbutz , most likely run by a Jewish
scammer, as well while being cheered on
by skyvike and gkhan while doing this,

wow, you are so enlightened,
so connected, so educated.

You know knowledge and freedom.

:ROFL:

You talk about love too.
Hatred drives you IMO.

Posting lies is hatred. :oo-->

[singular_me]

You spend a lot of energy to fight and discredit quantum mechanics/physics, ie: black holes, Dark Matter and Light. Black Holes gobble Dark Matter and create the Torus which Light energes from... that is where this thread should have been about. But some decided to make a big satanic issue about it. The headline was meant to be very catchy, and that's all. My only mistake was to assume that the average forum goer would be teased in the good sense.. Too bad, we all missed a good debate as a result... my fault ...your fault...

Ponder the words in bold text and you will solve the argument you have with me, along with the"divide and conquer mantra our world is trapped into.

I didnt created any religions, I am not responsible for their heavy mathematical content... I want to know WHY - I neither am responsible for the Latin translation of this "L" word - sure, you are entitled to your owm view, this said:

Will quantum mechanics be soon viewed as the next anti-christ... it is up to you foilks. It is no suprisse that Newton had to hide when resarching the field of alchemy which centuries later became chemistry... looks like we are going though this all over again.

- sure, you are entitled to your owm view, this said:

farewell !!

How Black Holes Gobble Dark Matter
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/black-holes-eat-dark-matter-100323.html


Quantum Mechanics on a Torus (Cornell University 1998)
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9807/9807056v1.pdf

[StackerKen]

Goldie; I'm sure you realize that Isaac Newton was an Orthodox Christian
And he wrote more on religion than he did on natural science.

[MAGNES]

Goldie; I'm sure you realize that Isaac Newton was an Orthodox Christian
And he wrote more on religion than he did on natural science.


Goldie plays games on here, she knows I know what she is doing,
she puts up a video where they deceive on Constantine one of the
greatest Western leaders ever and creator of Byzantium, and blames
him for the destruction of knowledge, when the truth is the exact
opposite, Constantine and the Byzantines preserved everything
for us, the classics, mythology and they were the most powerful
leaders of the Christian world and defending Europe, the Crusaders
came at their call, but too late, they hate them for all of that and
deceive people on these historical facts.

Turns out the speaker follows lucifer deceiving, how surprising,
now that goldissima was confronted she is more open and put
threads like this up on lucifer. ROFL

http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/parallel-universes-exist-time-travel-possible-(tough-one-for-religions)/

[singular_me]

Goldie; I'm sure you realize that Isaac Newton was an Orthodox Christian
And he wrote more on religion than he did on natural science.


Just like Magnes, you are too maisntream for me... conspiracies are too huge for christians to fathom, it is up to each pf us to stop taking everything for granted.

wiki is not the best source but a starting ppint, search for yourself...

Isaac Newton's occult studies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studies

Newton's Dark Secrets | Newton's Alchemy | PBS
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/newton/alchemy.html

[singular_me]

Goldie plays games on here, she knows I know what she is doing,
she puts up a video where they deceive on Constantine one of the
greatest Western leaders ever and creator of Byzantium,

from nero burning rome to The Reichstag fire to 911, history is repleted with such facts... so why would the library be different since it held most pretigious books at the time...

I somehow think that books may not have been destroyed, the fire was convenient to say that they "dissapeared"....

Magnes, empires dont impress me... the bigger the state, the worse the corruption

Kmowledge will never be, cannot be a bad thing... it just depends on WHAT one does with it.

one may read about the worse tortures ever invented by man and choose to leave it at that or experiment them... action is necessary to use knowledge to harm others.

But obviously, knowledge is evil from the strart, unless it comes from the bible... I know the story


the Crusaders came at their call, but too late, they hate them for all of that and
deceive people on these historical facts.

if you are referring to the Crusaders under the Templars era.... talk of nest of occult/hidden knowledge that is directly related to them... not to mention that they are the inventors of paper deposit as notes of credit... sounds familiar.??

Esoteric Order of the Knights Templar,
http://www.northernway.org/school/templars.html

[singular_me]

I confronted you on you Constantine post,
a joke of a post, doing their works, hatred
of Greeks as well, the occult has a hard on for
Constantine, his name keeps coming up,
the Jews turned the name Byzantine into a dirty
word too. Then I researched the "prof " and find
a pig of a liar that sees visions of "lucifer".
How not surprising.

Magnes, you are not dealing with reality, facts... it is not my fault if the same "parables and tales" appear in many religions, such as in that of Horus,Mitra and Krishna to name a few... that the Sumerian Tablets and the Gensis have a lot in common... ect...

you prefer to brand me as a devil worshuiper because I am seeking about the meaning of those similarities EVERYWHERE.

Of course, the evil Jews diatribe surfaces way too many times in christian point of view...

All I know about Blavatsky, I saw it in google/youtube documentaries. I do not plan tp read her materials, what I have learned is enough to see why the elites have been engaged in a spirtual battle on OUR minds since the beginning of times. That is why all religions contain esoteric CODES which most people cannot decipher properly. I am just starting to see through the fog myself.

Most of you go off when approaching these topics but if you really to follow and listen to Christ's message, you would be leaving everything behind, live on the brink of poverty, abandon all discriminating stances and help the poor

So before you even start accusing me of anything, ask yourself how you could apply christiany to your own life.

I am NOT a christian but leaning toward Buddhism and Pantheism. I dont see God separated from his creation... He is all things, all the knowledge and love at once.

As long as people dont understand that they must not fear as long as they dont use knowledge against Mankind, the "L" word still has bright days ahead.

If trying to investiate the roots of all religions is a satanic motivation, so be it. I will not take part in this "divide to rule" mantra any longer, the root of all evil in my view.

Have fun hunting down anybody disagreeing with you.

[MAGNES]

bump

[keehah]

Harper's MAGAZINE The Day the Sun [seemed to stand] Still (http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/secret/velikovsky.html)

The comet, at the first of the two meetings reconstructed in Worlds in Collision, touched the earth with its gaseous tail, and one of the first signs of the encounter was a rain of fine, rusty pigment. The world turned red. “All the waters that were in the river,” reads the Book of Exodus, “were turned to blood.” The Manuscript Quiche’ of the Mayas tells of the rivers turning to blood, and so does the Papyrus Ipuwer of the Egyptians. Then, as the story continues in the Visuddhi-Magga of the Buddhists, the fine dust turned to coarse dust, “and then fine sand, and then coarse sand, and then grit, stones, up to boulders as large... as mighty trees on the hilltops.”

And with the shower of meteorites the earth stopped turning...

[keehah]

On one hand, an open hearted spirit towards the morning star searching and sharing towards light, truth and understanding and place in the universe being attacked so hard.

On the other hand, with a spirit of satan, a member is driven away and the forum is darkened by the apostles. The spirit one attacks exists in one's mind and attack but not with whom one attacks.

[sirgonzo420]

bump

You do know that "lucifer" does mean "light-bearer" in Latin, right?

Cuz it does.

Good luck changing Latin to fit your model of how things should be!

[sirgonzo420]

Goldie;
Satan is a Deceiver. He always has been.

I'm afraid he has you right where he wants you.

I'm praying for you.

Ken

But if Satan were such the Big Deceiver, then what better way to deceive the world than to pose as God?

[singular_me]

too bad we cant see posting dates - wondering who revived this thread now... is it you sirgonzo?

[Glass]

Goldie; I'm sure you realize that Isaac Newton was an Orthodox Christian
And he wrote more on religion than he did on natural science.

I thought this was interesting. I got waylaid reading about calculus and some other wiki's related to Newtons work early this morning. He certainly appeared to delve heavily into bible intepretations using mathematics to decode the texts of revelations. Was he an orthodox christian. I think that is debatable. He certainly spent some time devling into the esoteric and occult so I think it's questionable.

Response to an old old post I know but the opportunity was timely.

[DMac]

I thought this was interesting. I got waylaid reading about calculus and some other wiki's related to Newtons work early this morning. He certainly appeared to delve heavily into bible intepretations using mathematics to decode the texts of revelations. Was he an orthodox christian. I think that is debatable. He certainly spent some time devling into the esoteric and occult so I think it's questionable.

Response to an old old post I know but the opportunity was timely.

Newton was a hardcore Christian and believer in the bible. His study of the occult is more about him trying to prove the bible right than discovering secrets outside the bible.

[sirgonzo420]

Newton was a hardcore Christian and believer in the bible. His study of the occult is more about him trying to prove the bible right than discovering secrets outside the bible.

Newton was also an alchemist, and he wrote over a million words on the subject.

Generally, one does not spend 30+ years on a hobby in which one has no interest.

Also, I believe that I remember reading that Newton was not an orthodox Christian, but denied the divinity of Christ and was an anti-trinitarian.

[singular_me]

I thought this was interesting. I got waylaid reading about calculus and some other wiki's related to Newtons work early this morning. He certainly appeared to delve heavily into bible intepretations using mathematics to decode the texts of revelations. Was he an orthodox christian. I think that is debatable. He certainly spent some time devling into the esoteric and occult so I think it's questionable.

Response to an old old post I know but the opportunity was timely.

Newton was also interested in alchemy, I have a video about this. And at the time alchemy was branded as esoteric and by extension witchcraft.

Isaac Newton the Alchemist.
www.alchemylab.com/isaac_newton.htm

[singular_me]

Newton was also an alchemist, and he wrote over a million words on the subject.

Generally, one does not spend 30+ years on a hobby in which one has no interest.

Also, I believe that I remember reading that Newton was not an orthodox Christian, but denied the divinity of Christ and was an anti-trinitarian.

it seems as if all the high ranked scientists belong to "esoteric clubs", this my understanding so far.

[singular_me]

My last word to narrowed minds in this thread.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Lucifer has TWO meanings, the Latin one which has NOTHING to do with the Bible and the (twisted) biblical one which is a synonymous of Satan

it is ludicrous to even start a debate/discussion if we disagree on the meanings of words