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gunDriller
3rd May 2010, 12:43 PM
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/gulf_of_mexico_oil_spill_anima.html

it's based on NOAA data. an aerial view.

i think later on this week it will sink in - this is a big f*cking disaster.

Ponce
3rd May 2010, 12:47 PM
I would like to see the projection for 90 days from now........there will be hell to pay for this human error.

I am me, I am free
3rd May 2010, 12:54 PM
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/gulf_of_mexico_oil_spill_anima.html

it's based on NOAA data. an aerial view.

i think later on this week it will sink in - this is a big f*cking disaster.


Perhaps we're needing Biden to make this proclamation before it really sinks in with everyone.

Ponce
3rd May 2010, 01:03 PM
Bin Ladden should come out and say that he did it and everything would then be OK.............IT WAS A TERRORIST.

DMac
3rd May 2010, 01:11 PM
Interesting:
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/deepwater_horizon_secret_memo.html

ximmy
3rd May 2010, 02:43 PM
Jebus!...

cigarlover
3rd May 2010, 02:50 PM
Well, lets hope the worst case scenario doesnt unfold. The damage is bad enough if it were to be contained today even. A gusher would just kiss the gulf goodbye I would say.

So far based on this photo I wouldnt say its a gusher. Seems to be flowing out but not gushing like under tremendous pressure. Look at the stream in this photo. If it were gushing I would think it would be horizontal

I am me, I am free
3rd May 2010, 03:36 PM
From what I gather the end of the riser (the image you posted) not the only release point, and the riser bent over 90 degrees at the wellhead, kinking it like a garden hose (which is also one of the release points).



Well, lets hope the worst case scenario doesnt unfold. The damage is bad enough if it were to be contained today even. A gusher would just kiss the gulf goodbye I would say.

So far based on this photo I wouldnt say its a gusher. Seems to be flowing out but not gushing like under tremendous pressure. Look at the stream in this photo. If it were gushing I would think it would be horizontal

Large Sarge
3rd May 2010, 03:57 PM
thanks much G.D.

Great Post!

Ponce
3rd May 2010, 04:02 PM
Cigar? remember that the hole is wayyyyyyyyyyyy down there so that by the time it reaches the surface it would not show to much pressure.......

gunDriller
3rd May 2010, 04:11 PM
i have heard that they are thinking about dropping a super heavy box on the hole that's spewing oil, a box that has tubes attached, so they can pump the oil/water mixture to a tanker on the surface.

i'm not sure i understand that right. it seems like then they will end up with a whole bunch of oil tankers filled with an oil-water mixture that has to be dumped somewhere.

Cebu_4_2
3rd May 2010, 05:13 PM
They can separate the water out and save the crude (I think thats how I read it). This will buy time for Iran to come plug the leak, or... BP drills a side port to plug it that way.




i have heard that they are thinking about dropping a super heavy box on the hole that's spewing oil, a box that has tubes attached, so they can pump the oil/water mixture to a tanker on the surface.

i'm not sure i understand that right. it seems like then they will end up with a whole bunch of oil tankers filled with an oil-water mixture that has to be dumped somewhere.

gunDriller
4th May 2010, 12:47 PM
some shop talk from geologists about this incident.

i would have to say that the bottom line is pretty scary. this is not an oil spill - a hole has been drilled into a very large well (500,000 barrel per day capacity for 10 to 15 years - that's the size of the reserve) and is now coming out at the rate of 200,000 barrels per day.

the pressure 1 mile down (through water) and then 5 miles down (through rock) - 70,000 psi.

basically what happened was, the crew drilled into this extremely high pressure reservoir and it completely overwhelmed all their safety systems - leaving one of the largest rigs in the world sitting like a dead turtle on a hole in a large oil reservoir. sitting on it, but not plugging it.

this situation will poison/ is poisoning a size-able piece of ocean real estate. will BP and their helpers be able to confine this spill to the Caribbean during hurricane season ?

i am beginning to get the feeling that this is a die-off level event. first for all marine life in the affected area - and then for everybody who depends on that ocean for their food.


http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oc eans/

"Oil Deposit Capacity

The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. In published reports, BP estimated a blow out could reach near 200,000 Barrels per day (165,000) They may have estimated a flow rate on a 5 foot pipe. The deposit is well able to surpass this.

The oil industry has knowledge of the deposit more than they admit. The deposit is 100 miles off shore. They are drilling into the edge of the deposit to leak it down gently to be able to produce from the deposit. The deposit is so large that while I have never heard exact numbers it was described to me to be either the largest or the second largest oil deposit ever found. It is mostly a natural gas deposit. That is another reason not to blast too willy nilly there. The natural gas that could be released is really way beyond the oil in quantity. It is like 10,000 times the oil in the deposit.

It is this deposit that has me reminding people of what the Shell geologist told me about the deposit. This was the quote, "Energy shortage..., Hell! We are afraid of running out of air to burn." The deposit is very large. It covers an area off shore something like 25,000 square miles. Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. This is a really massive deposit. Punching holes in the deposit is a really scary event as we are now seeing."

MNeagle
4th May 2010, 01:03 PM
Thank you for keeping this front & center gunDriller.

MNeagle
4th May 2010, 01:26 PM
I've read earlier reports where BP didn't hve those 'safety valves" in place, to cut costs. anyone know the real story?

DMac
4th May 2010, 01:38 PM
I've read earlier reports where BP didn't hve those 'safety valves" in place, to cut costs. anyone know the real story?


Here is the whistleblower's tale:

Whistleblower: BP Risks More Massive Catastrophes in Gulf (http://www.truthout.org/whistlelower-bps-other-offshore-drilling-project-gulf-vulnerable-catastrophe59027)

All about the bottom line >:(

Horn
4th May 2010, 02:21 PM
Many points

mamboni
4th May 2010, 02:36 PM
some shop talk from geologists about this incident.

i would have to say that the bottom line is pretty scary. this is not an oil spill - a hole has been drilled into a very large well (500,000 barrel per day capacity for 10 to 15 years - that's the size of the reserve) and is now coming out at the rate of 200,000 barrels per day.

the pressure 1 mile down (through water) and then 5 miles down (through rock) - 70,000 psi.

basically what happened was, the crew drilled into this extremely high pressure reservoir and it completely overwhelmed all their safety systems - leaving one of the largest rigs in the world sitting like a dead turtle on a hole in a large oil reservoir. sitting on it, but not plugging it.

this situation will poison/ is poisoning a size-able piece of ocean real estate. will BP and their helpers be able to confine this spill to the Caribbean during hurricane season ?

i am beginning to get the feeling that this is a die-off level event. first for all marine life in the affected area - and then for everybody who depends on that ocean for their food.


http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oc eans/

"Oil Deposit Capacity

The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. In published reports, BP estimated a blow out could reach near 200,000 Barrels per day (165,000) They may have estimated a flow rate on a 5 foot pipe. The deposit is well able to surpass this.

The oil industry has knowledge of the deposit more than they admit. The deposit is 100 miles off shore. They are drilling into the edge of the deposit to leak it down gently to be able to produce from the deposit. The deposit is so large that while I have never heard exact numbers it was described to me to be either the largest or the second largest oil deposit ever found. It is mostly a natural gas deposit. That is another reason not to blast too willy nilly there. The natural gas that could be released is really way beyond the oil in quantity. It is like 10,000 times the oil in the deposit.

It is this deposit that has me reminding people of what the Shell geologist told me about the deposit. This was the quote, "Energy shortage..., Hell! We are afraid of running out of air to burn." The deposit is very large. It covers an area off shore something like 25,000 square miles. Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. This is a really massive deposit. Punching holes in the deposit is a really scary event as we are now seeing."


Fantastic post GunDriller! Thanks for posting - good eats for the mind!

gunDriller
4th May 2010, 03:24 PM
some shop talk from geologists about this incident.

Fantastic post GunDriller! Thanks for posting - good eats for the mind!


thanks. i'm glad it helped other people understand it.

it makes me very sad, when i think about it.

it's possible that the box-with-the-hose-attached technique will work. the problem is, it's not designed to fit over the oil rig, which is one of the largest in the world - 1100 feet from water to top of the rig, i remember from one article ... don't quote me on the 1100.

i don't know if they're putting the box-with-the-hose-attached in place while the huge oil rig is sitting on top of the hole that they drilled into the oil reservoir 5 miles down.

OR - if they are going to move the rig, and then put the box-with-the-hose-attached in place.

it actually seems logical to try both. it's going to take them months to move the rig, and they might as well have another team working on the bottom trying to cap the well.

if they don't succeed in capping the well before the move the rig, they will have clearer access in 3-6 months when the rig is moved.

it's possible this will only poison the Caribbean. i wonder if a year from now all the resorts like Arruba and Jamaica will be covered with oil.

Spectrism
4th May 2010, 05:26 PM
The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. In published reports, BP estimated a blow out could reach near 200,000 Barrels per day (165,000) They may have estimated a flow rate on a 5 foot pipe. The deposit is well able to surpass this.

The oil industry has knowledge of the deposit more than they admit. The deposit is 100 miles off shore. They are drilling into the edge of the deposit to leak it down gently to be able to produce from the deposit. The deposit is so large that while I have never heard exact numbers it was described to me to be either the largest or the second largest oil deposit ever found. It is mostly a natural gas deposit. That is another reason not to blast too willy nilly there. The natural gas that could be released is really way beyond the oil in quantity. It is like 10,000 times the oil in the deposit.

It is this deposit that has me reminding people of what the Shell geologist told me about the deposit. This was the quote, "Energy shortage..., Hell! We are afraid of running out of air to burn." The deposit is very large. It covers an area off shore something like 25,000 square miles. Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. This is a really massive deposit. Punching holes in the deposit is a really scary event as we are now seeing."

Peak oil is a hoax. There is more oil than they can deal with. Like diamonds, they have to regulate its release to keep the working slobs from getting it too cheap.

Apocalypto
4th May 2010, 07:20 PM
Nuke it. The Soviets did that when they had this problem.

Apocalypto
4th May 2010, 07:21 PM
Peak oil is a hoax. There is more oil than they can deal with. Like diamonds, they have to regulate its release to keep the working slobs from getting it too cheap.


Prove it. You can't can you? And do you know why? Because peak oil is a reality, young fella.

Why can't some people just see the truth for what it is? We're a gluttonous race of idiots who have torn the oil from the ground and we use it up like drunken sailors in a whore house full of young whores. It's pitiful. The world is a giant cesspool of rotting plastic, oily shitty garbage and people like you continue to imply that there's plenty of oil to go around. Too late, dude. We've already puked it all onto the Earth. The place is a mess. Sorry to burst your conspiracy bubble, but there ain't no cheap oil left and there ain't gonna be, ever.

Workaholic
4th May 2010, 07:40 PM
ha ha ha

Straight from the mouth of a liberal

did I spell liberal correctly?

ha ha ha

Spectrism
5th May 2010, 06:01 AM
Peak oil is a hoax. There is more oil than they can deal with. Like diamonds, they have to regulate its release to keep the working slobs from getting it too cheap.


Prove it. You can't can you? And do you know why? Because peak oil is a reality, young fella.

Why can't some people just see the truth for what it is? We're a gluttonous race of idiots who have torn the oil from the ground and we use it up like drunken sailors in a whore house full of young whores. It's pitiful. The world is a giant cesspool of rotting plastic, oily sh*tty garbage and people like you continue to imply that there's plenty of oil to go around. Too late, dude. We've already puked it all onto the Earth. The place is a mess. Sorry to burst your conspiracy bubble, but there ain't no cheap oil left and there ain't gonna be, ever.


LOL... sure gramps. The oil reservoir that BP tapped in the Gulf is right at the edge. There is more oil in that reservoir than we could burn in the next 100 years.

Where does the oil come from? The peak oil fans claim it came from dinosaurs and plants. Just how did it get 20,000 to 30,000+ feet under the earth?

How much oil is in Bakken?

How much oil is in the Brazil off-shore "deposit"?

Has anyone drilled down 20,000 feet where you live? Where I live, I have never heard of anyone exploring for oil. Sure- surface bubblers are rare nowadays- and so are gold deposits on the surface. Have we run out of gold, iron, aluminum, coal?

Peak water. I have to pump water out of the ground where I live. I guess there is a water shortage since it is not on the surface and I need to go down 20 feet to the water table. But, then again- most places I have lived are the same... and have been that way for thousands of years.

Ares
5th May 2010, 06:47 AM
Prove it. You can't can you? And do you know why? Because peak oil is a reality, young fella.
Sure, Saturns moon Titan.

Lakes of liquid hydrocarbons.

So where are the dinosaurs that created those lakes??

Peak oil is a myth, if hydocarbons can be found on a moon with no visible signs of life, then peak oil is a farce.

Awoke
5th May 2010, 07:21 AM
Thanks for all this Gundriller and everyone else who is contributing. Especially post#12.
Applause.