The Story of Your Enslavement

[osoab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&feature=player_embedded

This is the first time I have heard the topic of "Human Farming".

I don't quite know what to think of it. With all the bs that we have read about the elite reguarding us as useless breathers and how there are too many of us, this topic would seem the exact opposite.

Or have we been in a perpetual "Brave New World" for eons?

[Libertarian_Guard]

Oh my poor aching chains!

Sorry Osoab, I don't do satire very well.

Welcome to the site!

[Hatha Sunahara]

There seems to be a psychological barrier that this video encounters in a large portion of the population. People don't want to see themselves as livestock. So, if you tell them that this is the way the elite see them, they won't believe you. Now, I would bet that this psychological barrier, the disbelief are among the people whom a very large minority call 'sheep'.

Molyneaux is a philosopher, and an anarchist. Anarchists are people who put a high value on their freedom in a civilized society. So they are very sensitive to all the things the elite do to take away liberties from the common folks. The sad part is that he is right--the elite do see us as livestock, as chattel, whit whom they can do as they please, regardless of the laws. What good are laws when the violators own the enforcers?

Hatha

[osoab]

Oh my poor aching chains!

Sorry Osoab, I don't do satire very well.

Welcome to the site!



Thanks LG.

I have been lurking since the inception.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Hatha

There is some truth in what you say, as men will always seek to dominate other men, but even still, in comparison with a slave of bondage, we are doing quite well.

[osoab]

There seems to be a psychological barrier that this video encounters in a large portion of the population. People don't want to see themselves as livestock. So, if you tell them that this is the way the elite see them, they won't believe you. Now, I would bet that this psychological barrier, the disbelief are among the people whom a very large minority call 'sheep'.

Molyneaux is a philosopher, and an anarchist. Anarchists are people who put a high value on their freedom in a civilized society. So they are very sensitive to all the things the elite do to take away liberties from the common folks. The sad part is that he is right--the elite do see us as livestock, as chattel, whit whom they can do as they please, regardless of the laws. What good are laws when the violators own the enforcers?

Hatha


Hatha,

I agree that there is a huge barrier for people to see themselves in this light.

I would never recomend this for sheep.


Thanks for the info on Molyneux, I will have to look around his site.

To be honest, I caught this at one of the "tin" sites I browse. It wasn't Infowars, either.
I hadn't seen it posted here, felt maybe a discussion was warranted.

I personally had never considered myself the cattle, and I don't know why either. Maybe because I raised cattle at one time. No offense to chickens, horses, dogs, cats, etc.

There it is though, staring you in the face. We are just the cattle with the most uses.

[Shami-Amourae]

The message was good, but it's hard to take something serious when they show clips from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and video games like Mafia 2.

[osoab]

The message was good, but it's hard to take something serious when they show clips from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and video games like Mafia 2.


Don't forget The Wall.

But if it was designed to wake up the sheep, you have to do it in a manner they can recognize.

[osoab]

Molyneux is coming up on AJ shortly.

Should be an interesting conversation.

I'll post the link later when its up.

[PatColo]

I haven't watched the following video, consensus seems to be that it's VG but depressing! See the reader comments as sort of a preview,

Human Resources (http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-26/human-resources)

The user who posted the blog, "Danse" is also the filmmaker. Here's a 40 second trailer, but I saw comments that the trailer is so obtuse as to be useless in showing what the film is about,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj-jQzfoH0k

watch the full film here (2 hrs):
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-26/human-resources#comment-242304

[Ponce]

You are a "slave" only if you live and act withing the circle that they have placed around you........remember that once you break "their" laws you are then creating new laws..........their laws are to enslave you and your own laws are to make you free......think as you want and not as they want.

[Hatha Sunahara]

You are right Ponce, if you act and think like a slave, you are a slave.

I watched the video again just now, looking for a reference in it to our debt-based money system. Molyneaux talks about National debts, but doesn't talk about personal debt. I would contend that slavery today is for the most part voluntary. We have a system that creates money by getting people to go into debt. People voluntarily agree to make payments of principal and interest on loans. Taking on a mortgage is a form of debt slavery.

Both America and Australia were the repositories of white slaves who were involuntarily 'transported' to those continents because they were minor criminals who were handed unjustly severe sentences by corrupt legal systems. When Americans gained their independence from Britain, the British started sending their 'indentured' servants to Australia. America however started to import black slaves involuntarily from Africa. But the British figured out that their forced slaves were very unproductive in places like Jamaica, and not only produced little, but died young, so they were not worth the investment. Britain then, in 1828 abolished 'slavery'. They replaced it with an invention of the Rothschilds--debt slavery. This was totally voluntary, and made it so that the slavemasters no longer had to buy slaves, but could just hire them at very low wages. If the slaves needed anything they could borrow money on draconic terms, and were honor bound to repay that money. That practice was used to enslave entire nations by lending them money--what we now call our 'national debt'. I'm sure Molyneaux could do a sequel to this video to include the evolution of monetary slavery.

What is so slippery about debt slavery is that it is entirely voluntary, and you don't even have to know about it on a national level.

Based on this knowledge, I would conclude that our entire financial system--including how money is created is a blueprint for enslaving the entire world in a way where all the slaves submit voluntarily. I could see this intuitively when I was 16 years old, but could not articulate it then because I did not know the history behind it which was not taught in school. It wasn't until the internet came along that made it easy for me to teach myself how this whole system of voluntary slavery works.

It is, as you say Ponce, a choice. You can choose to save your money to buy what you want, or you can get instant gratification by borrowing the money at the cost of eternal enslavement. The choice is ours. I'm sure many people here on GSUS are debt free, and therefore not as enslaved as those who carry the burden of debts on top of the burden of taxation.

Hatha

[Twisted Titan]

There seems to be a psychological barrier that this video encounters in a large portion of the population. People don't want to see themselves as livestock. So, if you tell them that this is the way the elite see them, they won't believe you. Now, I would bet that this psychological barrier, the disbelief are among the people whom a very large minority call 'sheep'.

Molyneaux is a philosopher, and an anarchist. Anarchists are people who put a high value on their freedom in a civilized society. So they are very sensitive to all the things the elite do to take away liberties from the common folks. The sad part is that he is right--the elite do see us as livestock, as chattel, whit whom they can do as they please, regardless of the laws. What good are laws when the violators own the enforcers?

Hatha


Hatha,

I agree that there is a huge barrier for people to see themselves in this light.

I would never recomend this for sheep.


Thanks for the info on Molyneux, I will have to look around his site.

To be honest, I caught this at one of the "tin" sites I browse. It wasn't Infowars, either.
I hadn't seen it posted here, felt maybe a discussion was warranted.

I personally had never considered myself the cattle, and I don't know why either. Maybe because I raised cattle at one time. No offense to chickens, horses, dogs, cats, etc.

There it is though, staring you in the face. We are just the cattle with the most uses.






If ya gotta be cattle .........make sure you're the right cattle. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

[SilverMagnet]

The Elite treat the common man as an investment. When you are a child, the investment is made in Education. When you get a new job, the investment is in Training. When you earn income in their system, the investment pays off in income tax. When you spend money in their system, the investment pays off in sales tax.

Regardless of whether you own your own business or are under salary or wage slave, you were born into and are under debt slavery. Ironically, the only ones that seem to escape this form of servitude are the welfare class who seem to be given everything for free for doing practically nothing but reproducing beyond their means. After all, why work when you can get it for free? However, this is a trap and an alluring promise into the jaws of Socialism and is clearly visible in the premeditated destruction of the dollar and the government run Health Care Bill proposal.

Over 40 million now on Food Stamps, record unemployment. This fiscal insolvency was purely intentional and we were never meant to dig ourselves out of this hole. The billions spent on the false war on terror. Wall Street bailouts. All meant to further enslave the general population. The endgame results in we the people completely dependent upon the government for every need. The central bankers know this is the only way to part Americans from their 2nd Amendment rights without resistance. And many will gladly hand over their freedom, independence and firearms to feed their families in some guns for food program.

When the people fail to recognize this debt, the Fed and the dollar as their means of interaction, only then will freedom be achieved and the usury game will end as Gold & Silver take their rightful place among the balancing act of society.

[osoab]

Here's part 1, I am still looking for the other three. I didn't get a chance to listen to the whole thing and concentrate on what was said. AJ seemed subdued during the interview. I don't think he knew how to take it.

Molyneux, doesn't like gold. He said that there is much more that is held than is reported by about 4-5 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNGHRw4kBK4

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmgWAhVGq3g

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJcrwV0yHMg

Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAELl3ReMM

Edited to add the other 3 vids.

[osoab]

I haven't watched the following video, consensus seems to be that it's VG but depressing! See the reader comments as sort of a preview,

Human Resources (http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-26/human-resources)

The user who posted the blog, "Danse" is also the filmmaker. Here's a 40 second trailer, but I saw comments that the trailer is so obtuse as to be useless in showing what the film is about,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj-jQzfoH0k

watch the full film here (2 hrs):
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-26/human-resources#comment-242304


I'll try to watch the vid later Pat. Do you have the download link for it. Danse said be posted it in one of his comments, but I couldn't find it. The vid at the site is slow to load. I only got into the 1st 10 minutes or so.

[Hatha Sunahara]

And from the AJ interview of Molyneaux, the whole point is that our masters are parasites. They need us more than we need them. And they have used every clever trick to maintain their power over us. We need help to get them off our backs.

But, but, but....aren't we all 'bought out'? We could lose our benefits if we weren't supportive if TPTBs policies. Wouldn't we all just turn on the opponents of TPTB in order to save our benefits? I suppose if you're not 'bought out' with some kind of government benefit, you become an enemy of the state. They have no way to manipulate you other than with fear. I must say, our masters are a clever bunch.


Hatha

[PatColo]

I'll try to watch the vid later Pat. Do you have the download link for it. Danse said be posted it in one of his comments, but I couldn't find it. The vid at the site is slow to load. I only got into the 1st 10 minutes or so.



I'd have to slog through all those 60-some replies to find one where there's a good link to watch. Not sure I'm gonna watch it, with all the consensus that it's "depressing", I'll likely just settle for reading the comments. Did you mean the viewing site in the blog's OP, http://metanoia-films.org/humanresources.php, was slow? If it's a flash video, I'd just say pause & let it buffer ahead, overnight if necessary, then watch. There's some reference in the first reply from Danse about a download link, but I didn't see that at the above view page either. Just skim the comments (http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-26/human-resources#comment-242261) and see if someone points to a good new place to watch/download. :)

[Ponce]

From the time that you are born you are being told how to act........in school with the bells, at work with the bells, in traffic with the lights and signs and even the tv tells you at what time to see something........and why should we have three meals a day? one in the morning, one in the afternoon and one at night?.......I eat when I feel like it and what I feel like eating.....go to bed when I feel like it and get up at my own time, but of course I am retired and without a nagging wife..........crap, I wished that I had back my nagging cat who thought she was my wife, I keep doing thing for her before I remember that shes gone.

[osoab]

From the time that you are born you are being told how to act........in school with the bells, at work with the bells, in traffic with the lights and signs and even the tv tells you at what time to see something........and why should we have three meals a day? one in the morning, one in the afternoon and one at night?.......I eat when I feel like it and what I feel like eating.....go to bed when I feel like it and get up at my own time, but of course I am retired and without a nagging wife..........crap, I wished that I had back my nagging cat who thought she was my wife, I keep doing thing for her before I remember that shes gone.


Sucks about your cat Ponce. Head to the shelter or find one another one for free. Even though you miss your old furball, it doesn't mean you can't find a new one.

Now the education system. It's the Prussian Model (http://www.school-survival.net/articles/school/history/Compulsory_Government_Education.php). I'll just post this.


A year after Napoleon’s amateur army defeated the professional forces of Prussia at the battle of Jena in 1806, German philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte delivered his celebrated “Address to the German Nation.” In essence, he told the Prussian people that forced schooling in which all would learn to obey orders was the only way for Prussia to rebound from this most ignominious defeat.

Modern compulsory schooling began in Prussia in 1819, the first time in human history that education was foisted upon a nation by force. The goals were simple: obedient soldiers to the army, subservient workers to the mines, submissive civil servants to the government, compliant clerks to industry and citizens who thought alike about major issues. The results were no doubt pleasing to the Prussian ruling elites; industry boomed and warfare was successful.

In Prussia, the Volksshule educated 92 percent of the children. Its purpose was not to develop the intellect, but to socialize the children in obedience and subordination. Only eight percent of children were schooled in Real Schulen. For the masses, intellectual development was seen as the major contributing factor causing armies to lose battles.

Compulsory Schooling Arrives in America

How did Prussian-style compulsory education make its way to America? Thousands of young men from important American families went to Prussia in the 19th century and brought home Ph.D. degrees, a credential that was then unknown in the States. Eventually, those with Ph.D.s assumed the highest positions in government and academia, effectively closing such opportunities to those lacking the degree. Almost all the founders of American schooling had made the pilgrimage to Germany; many, most notably Horace Mann in his legendary 7th Report of 1844, extolled the virtues of the Teutonic methods.

In 1852, the famous “Know-Nothing” Massachusetts legislature rammed though education by compulsion. Within 50 years, state domino after state domino fell in line, ending school choice and creating a vast government monopoly.

Minimizing the Individual in Favor of Collectivism

By 1889, U.S. Commissioner of Education William Torrey Harris was assuring railroad magnate Collis Huntington that American schools were “scientifically designed” to prevent “over-education” from occurring. In 1896, John Dewey at the University of Chicago said “independent, self-reliant people were a counter-productive anachronism in the collective society of the future.” Dewey went on to assert that, in modern society, “people would be defined by their associations – not by their own individual accomplishments.”

Such was a long leap toward state socialism, a vision that runs counter to the traditional American purpose – to prepare the individual to be self-reliant. The underlying premise of Prussian schooling, and therefore that of the American system, is that the government is the true parent of all children, i.e., the State is sovereign over the family.

[osoab]

I'll try to watch the vid later Pat. Do you have the download link for it. Danse said be posted it in one of his comments, but I couldn't find it. The vid at the site is slow to load. I only got into the 1st 10 minutes or so.



I'd have to slog through all those 60-some replies to find one where there's a good link to watch. Not sure I'm gonna watch it, with all the consensus that it's "depressing", I'll likely just settle for reading the comments. Did you mean the viewing site in the blog's OP, http://metanoia-films.org/humanresources.php, was slow? If it's a flash video, I'd just say pause & let it buffer ahead, overnight if necessary, then watch. There's some reference in the first reply from Danse about a download link, but I didn't see that at the above view page either. Just skim the comments (http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-26/human-resources#comment-242261) and see if someone points to a good new place to watch/download. :)


The download link is at the full movie site (http://metanoia-films.org/hr_watchonline.php) at the bottom of the movie.

Here is the download site (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FC6BGEOM).

I just found it. It is really slow.

[Golden]

The Money That Is Sold Abroad Is You!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0
Uploaded by stefbot on Oct 21, 2009
It is not dollars, treasuries, bonds and debt that is being sold by your government.

It is you.

Text and references: Freedomain Radio - http://www.fdrurl.com/moneyisyou

True News 13: Statism is Dead - Part 3 - The Matrix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P772Eb63qIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P772Eb63qIY
Uploaded by stefbot on Nov 24, 2008
You do not live in a country. Take the red pill. Freedomain Radio - http://www.freedomainradio.com

Text: http://fdrurl.com/Matrix

Text: http://freedomain.blogspot.com/2008/11/true-news-13-statism-is-dead-part-3.html

The Sunset of the State

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLCEXtpTNYU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLCEXtpTNYU
Uploaded by stefbot on Aug 4, 2010
What needs to change to save the world. http://www.freedomainradio.com

[osoab]

Did you delete your thread snake?

[Shami-Amourae]

Stefan keeps saying Statism is dying. I disagree. I think it's getting stronger. People love being slaves. Especially with the fact that there will be less jobs since of automation, people won't give up government, they will demand more and more until we kill ourselves in some massive man made disaster.

[Golden]

Did you delete your thread snake?

No I closed it. If Alice wants to follow the white rabbit she will (via your link). Why do you ask?

[osoab]

No I closed it. If Alice wants to follow the white rabbit she will (via your link). Why do you ask?

I couldn't find it at first, then I found it in the religion forum after I posted. I just don't venture there often.

I am glad that you posted the other vids you had with your thread. I haven't got a chance to watch them.
I didn't mean for you to close your thread. I just remembered that we had a thread about this and searched around.
Then I read through it before posting the link. Most of the stuff posted way back when still seemed relevant today.

After reading through it, I realized that this thread was one of my first posts on the board. It's been a long 2 years.

[Golden]

No harm no foul O. Just tying loose ends together is all.