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platinumdude
7th May 2010, 07:44 AM
Link to Article (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/displayarticle.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/May/international_May333.xml&section=international&col=)

WASHINGTON - US lawmakers unveiled legislation Thursday to strip Americans thought to have joined extremist groups like Al-Qaeda of their citizenship, saying it would make it easier to try or assassinate them.

“Those who join such groups join our enemy and should no longer be entitled to the rights and privileges of American citizens. That’s the bottom line,” said Independent Senator Joe Lieberman, the measure’s lead author.

Taking on critics who say his proposal goes too far, Lieberman pointed to news reports that President Barack Obama signed an order enabling the US military to kill US citizens like radical US-Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

“If the president can authorize the killing of a United States citizen because he is fighting for a foreign terrorist organization,” he said, “we can also have a law that allows the US government to revoke Awlaki’s citizenship.”

Lieberman said his proposal would make it harder for US nationals who cast their lot in with extremists, and train overseas, to return and carry out an attack, and if they do would make it possible to try them in military court.

“They will not enjoy the rights and privileges of American citizenship in the legal proceedings against them. That, I believe, will make America safer,” he said at a press conference with three other lawmakers.

“The US military may have more options to use necessary force to neutralize the threat, such as Anwar al-Awlaki, without the concerns associated with targeting an American citizen,” said Republican Representative Charlie Dent.

“I suspect it’d be easier to launch a Hellfire missile at a non-citizen than a citizen,” said Dent, referring to a weapon sometimes fired from US aerial drones at suspected terrorists.

Though inspired by a botched car bombing last weekend in New York’s , the new bill would not apply to the Pakistani-American US authorities arrested and have blamed for the attack, Faisal Shahzad.

“The change in law we are proposing cannot be applied to him, but it certainly can be applied to future people accused of terrorist acts like him,” said Lieberman, who cited Awlaki as one example.

The legislation would amend a 70-year-old law passed at the outset of World War II that empowers the US State Department to strip Americans who fight voluntarily for the armed forces of a country at war with the United States of their citizenship.

Lieberman’s proposal covers Americans caught “providing material support or resources” to a foreign group the US State Department has labeled terrorist, or joining or aiding attacks on the United States or its allies.

Lieberman stressed that his proposal did not alter the original law’s holding that the targeted individual must be shown to have had the intent of relinquishing their US citizenship.

But Dent underlined that “if they want to pursue acts of terror, then they clearly do not want to be a citizen of our nation.”

The new proposal would not strip away safeguards in current law, including an individual’s right to challenge in federal court the US State Department’s decision to strip them of their citizenship, with the burden of proof falling on the government.

“This is about the people who are over there right now, training to come back to hurt us,” said Republican Senator Scott Brown.

“If they’ve been identified through their actions or in specific statements that they no longer want to remain United States citizens, well, by golly, let’s help them,” said Brown.

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she was sympathetic to the “spirit” of the bill but worried about due process rights and noted that the 1940s had also seen the mass imprisonment of Japanese-Americans.

Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner also expressed skepticism about stripping Americans of their citizenship before they are convicted of a crime.

The bill suffered a reversal on Wednesday when a key US Senator, Democrat Chuck Schumer, retracted his tentative early support and branded the proposal unconstitutional and “ineffective in this context.”



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Horn
7th May 2010, 08:08 AM
How could the swear in Congress then?

Saul Mine
7th May 2010, 09:30 AM
Yes, it's always such a blasted nuisance having to respect someone's God given rights.

Next step: A cop pulls you over for something and the first thing he does is to pull out a form and revoke your rights. Then he can beat the snot out of you. That will help stabilize the number of cops, since a lot of them quit when they are not allowed to beat the suspects.

:sarc:

MetalsMan
7th May 2010, 09:36 AM
Didn't "THEY" do this in Russia too?

They'd cast you out of society,
sent you to the Gulag, etc, etc.

They want to go FULL COMMIE in USA. :o

Twisted Titan
7th May 2010, 12:21 PM
“They will not enjoy the rights and privileges of American citizenship in the legal proceedings


Go to traffic court and see how many you got there.


@$$hole.


T


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Chibioz
7th May 2010, 12:41 PM
The real traitors have a stranglehold on our most powerful institutions. >:(

Book
7th May 2010, 12:47 PM
“Those who join such groups join our enemy and should no longer be entitled to the rights and privileges of American citizens. That’s the bottom line,” said Independent Senator Joe Lieberman, the measure’s lead author.

Taking on critics who say his proposal goes too far, Lieberman pointed to news reports that President Barack Obama signed an order enabling the US military to kill US citizens like radical US-Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

http://www.mujahideenryder.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/mccain-lieberman-israel-jew-zionist.jpg

Lieberman and his puppet McCain want to turn America into another Gaza open-air prison. We are all goyim to the Chosenites.

:D

cigarlover
7th May 2010, 03:38 PM
I'd like to see a law that says any politician who goes against the constitution loses his or her citizenship as well, or serves life in prison.

Defender
8th May 2010, 12:39 AM
The real purpose of this would be for Congress to offset the legalizing of invading aliens. By eliminating 20 million or so conservative caucasian citizenships they can claim a 0 net increase in total number of citizenships.

Btw, since Congress is now a terrorist organization...

gunDriller
8th May 2010, 05:55 AM
I'd like to see a law that says any politician who goes against the constitution loses his or her citizenship as well, or serves life in prison.


i would vote for a law that strips our elected representatives of citizenship.

and re-locates them to a labor camp on top of the glacier on top of the Katla volcano in Iceland.

(except for the few patriots in Washinton.)

Brent
8th May 2010, 06:54 AM
I'd like to see a law that says any politician who goes against the constitution loses his or her citizenship as well, or serves life in prison.


Better yet, let's bring back something fun like say, burning at the stake or for the more faint hearted we could go with the classic tar and feathering.
Either way I would imagine politicians would be a little bit more loyal if there was a risk of being roasted alive or covered in hot tar, covered with feathers and then exiled if they went against their people.

Make these people live with those they represent full time. (Surely this is possible with modern technology)

It is only when leaders are accountable that they don't become corrupted by that power.


Of course this all hinges on a common populace that knows what is right and wrong. Our jew-poisoned country just isn't there yet.