I think my kid is gifted

[sunshine05]

I hope you don't mind me sharing this here, but it's pretty cool.

My son is 5. I've always known that he is smart. He's been reading since he was 3 and now can read just about everything. I stopped tracking his reading level because there are no limits anymore. He will start kindergarten in the Fall so not even in school yet. Well, when he was around 4 1/2 he got very interested in elevators and started watching youtube videos of them and reading books about them that I was able to find. He also loved escalators. So one day we were at a new shopping center we had never been to and he said "that's a Dover". I had no idea what he was talking about. We didn't ride the elevator, just walked by it. As we were driving home it dawned on me that maybe that was the type of elevator so I asked him and he got so excited and said "yes mommy!". So when we got home I googled it and sure enough, that is an elevator manufacturer. So the next time we went there I checked and sure enough, it was a Dover elevator. But you could not read the word until you were inside it so he somehow could identify it just by looking at it. I still don't know how but he can do it with all of them - Schindler, Dover, Otis, etc. Then a few weeks later we were at a mall and riding up the escalator and just for the heck of it I asked him what kind it was and he said "Schindler". He was right:). Amazing!!!!

So this week we were in eastern TN on vacation and looking at a map and he saw a town called "Whittier" and said "people got hurt in a train crash". He is also very into trains and train crashes and he googles them, etc. So I thought maybe he read about this town at the museum or visitors center. When we got home I looked up Whittier train crash and there were two people killed by a Union Pacific train a few weeks ago there. I asked him some details - what kind of train it was and how many people were hurt and he answered correctly. So he read this article weeks ago, remembered the name of the town and identified it on that map. Wow! The only thing was it happened in Whittier CA, not NC. Just thought I would share. I need to figure out how to nurture this intelligence!

[crazychicken]

Two thumbs up and a big

CONGRATULATIONS

CC

[Neuro]

It seems like you have an amazing kid there. Try to get him interested in a wide variety of things...

[Ponce]

Don't waste his mind by sending him to school, they will erase all that and fill it with junk, at home education or semi private teacher.

[Neuro]

Don't waste his mind by sending him to school, they will erase all that and fill it with junk, at home education or semi private teacher.

I think that is a very good idea, he will be held up and polluted, and probably bored to death...

[woodman]

What Ponce said. Don't send him to school. It will ruin him.

[Heimdhal]

I also agree with what ponce said. That mind is too good to be polluted and hell likley wind up bored and in trouble because of his boredom.

Not because hes a bad kid, but because hell simply be looking for ways to keep himself active, and generaly they wont be what the teacher wants. I know because I went through the same thing my entire school life.

The one bonus to the public school is the social interaction hell get, and thats something kids need. If youre at all interested theres likley a large homeschool base in your area that gets together in an organized fashion at least a couple times a week. This gives the kids the large group social interaction they need while significantly increases their education quality. A decent private school is a good way too, but it can be tough on kids socialy, esepcialy if they dont fit in right away...another school experience I was happy to forget....

[goldmonkey]

I need to figure out how to nurture this intelligence!

sunshine05, make sure you protect it as well. Make it a priority to make sure he knows to protect his brain. One concussion is all it takes to screw things up.

[StackerKen]

I also agree.... Home school him if you are able.

You have a gifted one there for sure.

Congrats!

[sunshine05]

I signed him up for a private kindergarten that has a small class size of about 8 kids and they will give him accelerated reading. Not sure what we will do when it's time for 1st grade.

[EE_]

Maybe he has a photographic memory?

Teach him to count cards :whistle

[Neuro]

Maybe he has a photographic memory?

Teach him to count cards :whistle
I doubt Vegas will be alive when sunshines son is old enough to enter a Casino...

[Book]

I signed him up for a private kindergarten that has a small class size of about 8 kids and they will give him accelerated reading. Not sure what we will do when it's time for 1st grade.


Whatever you do keep him out of public school.

[Ponce]

As all of you know I only went to the 10 th grade and I only really began to learn once I left school..........to me school is the skeleton or frame of a body that you yourself have to fill in with what you see and hear..........unless you are going to be a doctore or something like that.

Besides, those in school can only teach you WHAT THEY KNOW and because they are the same you would them be cough in the Twilight Zone.

Learning how to think should be the main job of schools and not useless math or chemistry that you know you will never use.

[nunaem]

I agree with everyone else. Nothing kills childrens natural intellectual curiousity better than public schools. And private schools are only marginally better, they are also required by the state to grind their pupils into predictable automatons.

[sunshine05]

"Learning how to think should be the main job of schools and not useless math or chemistry that you know you will never use."

That is funny that you said that. I majored in chemistry in college; my husband majored in math:).

By the way........what is with all the smites? Is it just me? Someone here must really hate me. I was offline all last week and still received a bunch of smites and more today. If someone has a problem, don't be a coward. Tell me to my face what the issue is. Seriously, pm me. I would love to know what the deal is. :conf:

[MNeagle]

My theory: There's a smite troll about. Don't be too concerned about it, they're meaningless.

[Ponce]

"Learning how to think should be the main job of schools and not useless math or chemistry that you know you will never use."

That is funny that you said that. I majored in chemistry in college; my husband majored in math:).

By the way........what is with all the smites? Is it just me? Someone here must really hate me. I was offline all last week and still received a bunch of smites and more today. If someone has a problem, don't be a coward. Tell me to my face what the issue is. Seriously, pm me. I would love to know what the deal is. :conf:


For being a chemist I am giving you a Semite hahahahahah, just kidding.

As you know all rules have its exceptions and you and your husband are the ones of a few.

I should have had paid more attention to my English teacher hahahahahahha.

[nunaem]

Learning how to think should be the main job of schools


+100,000

Education is learning to love learning for your entire life. Somehow during the last century education became confused with vocational training for particular industries, much to the detriment of real education. I have nothing against math and science, but those are NOT education they are training. Education is otherwise useless knowledge like history and literature.

[Heimdhal]

Learning how to think should be the main job of schools


+100,000

Education is learning to love learning for your entire life. Somehow during the last century education became confused with vocational training for particular industries, much to the detriment of real education. I have nothing against math and science, but those are NOT education they are training. Education is otherwise useless knowledge like history and literature.


Plank number 10 of the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.

[Ponce]

I have to thank my dad for what he did for me when I was a kid, from about 3 years old to seven, he read me the Popular Mechanics in English and explained what it was all about and that was what got me into inventing stuff.

Come to think about it.......maybe that was the reason that I found school so boring and why I was able to to solved algebra questions without knowing how after he was my teacher for one year.

I love that guy, he is 98 years old and in Cuba......spoke with him yesterday.

[sunshine05]

I have to thank my dad for what he did for me when I was a kid, from about 3 years old to seven, he read me the Popular Mechanics in English and explained what it was all about and that was what got me into inventing stuff.

Come to think about it.......maybe that was the reason that I found school so boring and why I was able to to solved algebra questions without knowing how after he was my teacher for one year.

I love that guy, he is 98 years old and in Cuba......spoke with him yesterday.


That's really cool Ponce:).

[Ponce]

More than cool sunshine, we went to Giorgia Tech, without knowing a word of English, and in seven years he obtained two degrees one as a Mechanical Engineer and the other one as a Electric Engineer...............every night at home he just to fall asleep in bed with a book on his chest...........he worked for the Cuban sugar industry till the age of 86 and published a book at the age of 84.

[nunaem]

Plank number 10 of the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.


That seems to be the case. Nowadays education is synomynous with eligibility for a career. Back in the 19th century being educated was knowing Greek and Latin, history and philosophy.

[Ponce]

To me, now days, having a degree doesn't necessary means that they have an education.

I made my money (what little I have) by being intelligent and not smart.

[Twisted Titan]

HE IS 'THE ONE"
;D

GUARD HIM WITH YOUR LIFE.

T

[sunshine05]

That is really impressive Ponce. I can see why you are so proud of him!

[1970 Silver Art]

"Learning how to think should be the main job of schools and not useless math or chemistry that you know you will never use."

That is funny that you said that. I majored in chemistry in college; my husband majored in math:).

By the way........what is with all the smites? Is it just me? Someone here must really hate me. I was offline all last week and still received a bunch of smites and more today. If someone has a problem, don't be a coward. Tell me to my face what the issue is. Seriously, pm me. I would love to know what the deal is. :conf:


Sunshine, It was probably the Censored Deuce "moles" just trying to cause more trouble. I do not see what else it could be because you are a good poster and I did not see anything that you posted that would cause you to get a lot of smites. FWIW I have more smites than everybody (except Percival) so do not feel too bad about your smites Sunshine.

On topic: I am sure that you have a gifted son but I agree with the other posters in that public school is not the right option for your son but then again what do I know since I do not have any children? I just know that the public schools across the U.S. are in bad shape and they are not going to get any better IMO.

[Ponce]

Mr. Art.........you don't need to have kids to know what is good or bad for them, after all neither do I have kids..........the same way that you should know that you can get killed by jumping from a plane without a chute.

[Occamsrazor]

Here is an advice from an ex-child prodigy who read Erasmus at 7.
If your kid goes to a public school, sit him down and tell him that his intellegence will be your family secret. Tell him to hide it and do at school reasonably well, get occasional B`s etc.
He must learn how to blend in. Failure to do so will assure him growing up in an atmosphere of insane jealosy and hate. If he is as intellegent as you say he is, he will understand.

Hiding intellegence and gifts takes uncommon willpower but it is a matter of life and death for those swimming in a sea of mediocrity. A true genius lives like an intellegence officer starting from the 1st grade.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Here is an advice from an ex-child prodigy who read Erasmus at 7.
If your kid goes to a public school, sit him down and tell him that his intellegence will be your family secret. Tell him to hide it and do at school reasonably well, get occasional B`s etc.
He must learn how to blend in. Failure to do so will assure him growing up in an atmosphere of insane jealosy and hate. If he is as intellegent as you say he is, he will understand.

Hiding intellegence and gifts takes uncommon willpower but it is a matter of life and death for those swimming in a sea of mediocrity. A true genius lives like an intellegence officer starting from the 1st grade.


I would not attempt to teach a kid about deception in first grade, or any grade. They'll learn this themselves over time.

[Occamsrazor]

Here is an advice from an ex-child prodigy who read Erasmus at 7.
If your kid goes to a public school, sit him down and tell him that his intellegence will be your family secret. Tell him to hide it and do at school reasonably well, get occasional B`s etc.
He must learn how to blend in. Failure to do so will assure him growing up in an atmosphere of insane jealosy and hate. If he is as intellegent as you say he is, he will understand.

Hiding intellegence and gifts takes uncommon willpower but it is a matter of life and death for those swimming in a sea of mediocrity. A true genius lives like an intellegence officer starting from the 1st grade.


I would not attempt to teach a kid about deception in first grade, or any grade. They'll learn this themselves over time.


In the 2nd grade it will be too late. Plus this "deception" is not of the criminal variety but is in fact self-defense against criminal activity the subject of which every talented person is throughout his/her life. The atmosphere of hate and jealosy can permanently traumatize a child and at this age the psyche is the most vulnerable.

[Awoke]

I agree with the multiple posts, regarding school.

Keep him protected from the brainwashing machines. TPTB want him stupid with fluff.

[sunshine05]

I'll have to think about this. Traditional school is not designed for him since he is a visual/spatial learner and school is geared to a sequential learning style. He is not one who needs to drill to memorize things. He learns the overall picture and then focuses in on details. Once he learns something he knows it forever. I was hoping to supplement his education with field trips to museums, books, etc. Our public school is rated pretty well. But I'm going to have to figure out what's best for him.

[Neuro]

Sequential learning style= to become a cog in the machinery to serve the beast...

[sunshine05]

Sequential learning style= to become a cog in the machinery to serve the beast...


I think you're right:(.

[Ash_Williams]

I think any kid can learn to read at 3. I did. The problem is people don't think the kid can learn to read that young so they just give him candy and sit him in front of the tube with stupid cartoons and forget he has a brain.

School's are useless for learning reading and math but you learn how to deal with other people.

[StackerKen]

Ash is right...Babies can learn to read.

http://www.yourbabycanread.com/#back

[Book]

Our public school is rated pretty well. But I'm going to have to figure out what's best for him.


http://lgimages.s3.amazonaws.com/data/imagemanager/7515/classroommanagement.gif

Forcing a bright kid to sit and wait to "take his turn" among idiots will soon kill his progress.

:oo-->

[TLM]

When I first read the title, I thought you were going to say,
"My kid can calculate the Gold to silver ratio without a calculator" ::)

[Libertarian_Guard]

By the way........what is with all the smites? Is it just me? Someone here must really hate me. I was offline all last week and still received a bunch of smites and more today. If someone has a problem, don't be a coward. Tell me to my face what the issue is. Seriously, pm me. I would love to know what the deal is. :conf:


I'll tell you what is with the smites. They are delivered anonymously. Here we have the equivalent of crank phone calls, before caller I.D. became of age.

[sunshine05]

By the way........what is with all the smites? Is it just me? Someone here must really hate me. I was offline all last week and still received a bunch of smites and more today. If someone has a problem, don't be a coward. Tell me to my face what the issue is. Seriously, pm me. I would love to know what the deal is. :conf:


I'll tell you what is with the smites. They are delivered anonymously. Here we have the equivalent of crank phone calls, before caller I.D. became of age.


You're right! It's exactly like that. I would much prefer to know who they are from.

[Mouse]

My sperm can reach out and smite thee prior to being even incorporated into an environment where he will be able to choose his parents. He already knows how to read and is thinking about building a wormhole to get him out of the future he sees ahead of him when he is able to successfully infiltrate the egg. He already has an e-trade account and is worried about how he can hold it since he isn't conceived yet. Stephen Hawking has an annoying computer voice and he kicked me in the balls for watching one of his teevee shows.

[Libertarian_Guard]

My sperm can reach out and smite thee prior to being even incorporated into an environment where he will be able to choose his parents. He already knows how to read and is thinking about building a wormhole to get him out of the future he sees ahead of him when he is able to successfully infiltrate the egg. He already has an e-trade account and is worried about how he can hold it since he isn't conceived yet. Stephen Hawking has an annoying computer voice and he kicked me in the balls for watching one of his teevee shows.


Ramble on of you must, but you make no sense what so ever.

Imagination should not come before reality. Such B.S. defies gravity.

[Mouse]

I smite thee with kindest regards. I think every kid should be a genious, but they aren't. And that post pretty much was senseless.

[Occamsrazor]

I smite thee with kindest regards. I think every kid should be a genious, but they aren't. And that post pretty much was senseless.


genious...who would`ve thought internet could be such fun...remember this pic?
http://badattitudes.com/MT/morans.jpg

[1970 Silver Art]

My sperm can reach out and smite thee prior to being even incorporated into an environment where he will be able to choose his parents. He already knows how to read and is thinking about building a wormhole to get him out of the future he sees ahead of him when he is able to successfully infiltrate the egg. He already has an e-trade account and is worried about how he can hold it since he isn't conceived yet. Stephen Hawking has an annoying computer voice and he kicked me in the balls for watching one of his teevee shows.


You also have to take into account that he (the sperm) will not be able to hold the physical gold and silver since he isn't conceived yet. He might own it but he cannot hold it. ;D There is also that issue of him (the sperm) being able to hold a gun to defend himself and his real wealth since he isn't conceived yet. ;D

[Mouse]

I smite thee with kindest regards. I think every kid should be a genious, but they aren't. And that post pretty much was senseless.


genious...who would`ve thought internet could be such fun...remember this pick?
http://badattitudes.com/MT/morans.jpg


I have applauded thee in smite of myself. Spellczech in aisle three? You are a valuable member of the stalinist crew, whatever the hell that means. Keep up the gooch werken.

"this is not a spelling bee, it's the mother fucking Internet"

lmoa

[FreeEnergy]

sunshine05, congrats, no the work has only began.

I second several people above:


Don't waste his mind by sending him to (public) school, they will erase all that and fill it with junk

unless school is ranked at the very top in state or in the country, and even then he's going to get a lot of indoctrination.

Multiple choice tests - year after year after year - will kill his ability to analyze and solve problems himself. He may need to somehow be able to learn things outside school that will feed his brain something he can develop on. Maybe try sending him to chess club?

[sunshine05]

sunshine05, congrats, no the work has only began.

I second several people above:


Don't waste his mind by sending him to (public) school, they will erase all that and fill it with junk

unless school is ranked at the very top in state or in the country, and even then he's going to get a lot of indoctrination.

Multiple choice tests - year after year after year - will kill his ability to analyze and solve problems himself. He may need to somehow be able to learn things outside school that will feed his brain something he can develop on. Maybe try sending him to chess club?



Yes, chess is a good option. So far he has been researching things of interest on his own. He doesn't need any prompting from us. Once he gets interested in something there is no stopping his thirst for knowledge about it. Right now it's toucans:).