Would YOU shoot the dog???

[UncaScrooge]

This link is a about a news article about a "drug" bust in MO... it includes a video, wherein apparently the cops shoot a pit bull pet that was in the house.

http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-columbia-drug-swat-dog-shot-050710,0,7355120.story

Question: would YOU shoot the dog if you were in that situation?

Pit bull barking? Hostile situation? Intrusive entry?

I would.

How about you? :conf: ;D ;D ::)

P.S. Seems like all the comments attached to the news article are very negative against the cops, and about the dog-shooting... go figure... LOL!

[InsurgentWolf]

Seems like a stupid distraction from the real issue - the police using sh*tty tactics to enforce sh*tty laws.

They shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

[UncaScrooge]

Seems like a stupid distraction from the real issue - the police using sh*tty tactics to enforce sh*tty laws.


Yea, I hear that... seems like a bullsh*t bust, but the "side" issue about the dog is what caught my eye.

[InsurgentWolf]

The SWAT are wearing armor from head to toes, what's the dog going to do? Ruin his shoes?

[Awoke]

Don't underestimate the lethal potential of a Pitbull.

[UncaScrooge]

Don't underestimate the lethal potential of a Pitbull.



*nod*...... +1

[ximmy]

In the eyes of the law, shooting a police dog is as shooting an officer.. shooting a citizens dog is like shooting a family member.... but not in the eyes of the law.

[Libertytree]

They just got their rocks off firing their weapon "in the line of duty". It's like TT says...OTBWTB.

[old steel]

I would take serious offense to anyone including police shooting my dog while inside my home.

This would end very badly for all concerned, especially those who shot my dog.

[Quantum]

Cops invading a man's home = home invasion

Home invasion = self-defensive lethal response, no matter who is invading

The dog is a side-issue. Yahweh has declared a man's home his castle. Invaders of that castle are to be cut down. Decrees from demons (so-called "warrants") do not change that.

[I am me, I am free]

Busted for a flower which naturally occurs, part of the Creator's creation? Sheer madness in and of itself.

Then to go and destroy someone's own private property (the family pet) strictly because of 'policy'?

Anyone who supports such nonsense needs to have their head examined, they are enabling sociopaths.

[J in AZ]

Apparently the dog was in a cage in the house when it was shot.
Conducting a military style SWAT entry for a misdemeanor marijuana offense,
shooting a caged dog in the process,
then having the gall to charge the occupants for "child endangerment" after the police fire multiple rounds in an occupied house,
the cops are power abusing cowards!

[TPTB]

Hey, a caged pit bull is scary. I bet at least one of those fine fat police officers peed their panties while busting into the suburban families kitchen and seeing a dog in a cage. F**king para-militarized fascist fag pussies. I hope someone shoves a can of raid up their fascist fag asses. : ::)

[LuckyStrike]

Cops invading a man's home = home invasion

Home invasion = self-defensive lethal response, no matter who is invading

The dog is a side-issue. Yahweh has declared a man's home his castle. Invaders of that castle are to be cut down. Decrees from demons (so-called "warrants") do not change that.


+1

Let me ask you OP if you decide to man up and stop paying taxes and they come to your house to arrest you and your son grabs a gun and they blow his head off, should they have done it? I mean come on officer safety is involved here. God forbid one of the criminals with badges breaks a nail.

[J in AZ]

Hey, a caged pit bull is scary. I bet at least one of those fine fat police officers peed their panties while busting into the suburban families kitchen and seeing a dog in a cage. F**king para-militarized fascist *ag pussies. I hope someone shoves a can of raid up their fascist *ag asses. : ::)


They shot the family's Corgi also but didn't kill it, apparently the cop that shot that dog forgot his ankle armor that night and panicked...



More dead pooches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYQD-btqhKg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003299.html


I just wish the people killed by these thugs in botched or overly aggressive home invasions got this much attention.

[StackerKen]

Hell no I wouldn't shoot a dog in a cage.

I might accidently shoot a guy in the foot that shot a dog in a cage though.

[General of Darkness]

Question: would YOU shoot the dog if you were in that situation?

Pit bull barking? Hostile situation? Intrusive entry?

I would.

How about you? :conf: ;D ;D ::)



Well you're an idiot.

[Veni, vidi...evigilavi!]

Exactly, I mean..."despite all his rage he was still just a rat in a cage." - SP
Sorry, couldn't help myself.

[StackerKen]

Exactly, I mean..."despite all his rage he was still just a rat in a cage." - SP
Sorry, couldn't help myself.


Smashing Pumpkins...good stuff :)

[Occamsrazor]

I once was walking downstairs in my building at 7am and when I reached the lobby I saw a pitbull running towards me. It was winter time and I had a leather trenchcoat on me and a folding Ontario knife in my right pocket. I pulled out the knife and opened it while extending my left forearm to protect my throat while imagining what I would look like without much meat on my face. Thank God his drug dealer wannabe tough guy owner reached the lobby before the dog jumped on me and called it back.
The pitbulls in the Bronx often have their vocal cords removed so they can have underground dog fights without alerting anyone and also to make them a totally silent weapon.

I know that I was within 0.5 seconds away from a possible horrible death or disfigurement or if the Gods were on my side, from having to cut its throat while it clamped its jaws on my left forearm.

Search the net for pics of what humans look like after a pitbull attack, it`s not for the faint of heart.

[Mouse]

I would poison it a couple days before serving the warrant.

[Awoke]

I once was walking downstairs in my building at 7am and when I reached the lobby I saw a pitbull running towards me. It was winter time and I had a leather trenchcoat on me and a folding Ontario knife in my right pocket. I pulled out the knife and opened it while extending my left forearm to protect my throat while imagining what I would look like without much meat on my face. Thank God his drug dealer wannabe tough guy owner reached the lobby before the dog jumped on me and called it back.
The pitbulls in the Bronx often have their vocal cords removed so they can have underground dog fights without alerting anyone and also to make them a totally silent weapon.

I know that I was within 0.5 seconds away from a possible horrible death or disfigurement or if the Gods were on my side, from having to cut its throat while it clamped its jaws on my left forearm.

Search the net for pics of what humans look like after a pitbull attack, it`s not for the faint of heart.


Yeah, but this one was in a cage.

[willie pete]

Don't underestimate the lethal potential of a Pitbull.



I remember one barber I went to a long time ago, he had a picture of a big pit-bull growling on his mirror, so I asked him about it, he said yes it's mine, a champion fighter, and he doesn't like anyone but me, he even made the comment, that it would kill a lion, rip it's throat out, and that all cats had a natural fear of dogs, and when a pit-bull bites it holds on and doesn't let go, I told him I wasn't sure about that, I think a large cat would be a hell of alot stronger than a pit-bull, I don't think it would be intimidated at all, it'd probably snap the pit's spine in about 3 seconds :D

But shooting a caged dog? That's messed up completely, why the hell would you ever do that? Maybe to put fear in the owner?

Here's a guy "Playing" with a cat..I like his response when someone says "I suppose your instinct was to just run"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD_XVFCvdA0

[J in AZ]

Fox News Freedom Watch's Judge Napolitano Shreds Columbia, MO SWAT Raid - 5/10/10


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XmjNxKOQvg&feature=player_embedded

[Apocalypto]

Why not shoot the whole family? If there's marijuana in the house, aren't they guilty enough that they should all just be shot?

:sarc: :sarc: :sarc: :sarc: :sarc: :sarc: :sarc:

Seriously, folks. When any living creature is being shot over a little mary jane, your society is severely messed up. And there is no freedom in that society.

Keep laughing, unca scrooge.

[Occamsrazor]

I wouldn`t shoot any animal except in the case of starving and needing to hunt.
I`m an ardent supporter of weapons rights but I`m no hunter. There are plenty of human animals out there and we need guns to protect us from those.

Cruelty to animals is a textbook sign of sociopathy. Too many cops today are sociopaths.

[JDRock]

Apparently the dog was in a cage in the house when it was shot.
Conducting a military style SWAT entry for a misdemeanor marijuana offense,
shooting a caged dog in the process,
then having the gall to charge the occupants for "child endangerment" after the police fire multiple rounds in an occupied house,
the cops are power abusing cowards!


PERFECT summary, J

[30pcsAg]

I 2 agree: perfect summary. This incident is disgusting on so many levels.

I am saddened by the bad wrap the American Pit Bull Terrier has received. It is too bad that otherwise thinking people have fallen for the propaganda. I know a dog can be "trained" to do just about anything, but the APBT is very human non-aggressive by breed. When the dogs were being especially bred for fighting the human aggressive gene was bred out. It had to be because the dogs in the pit often had human handlers in the pits with them. An APBT that bit a human was usually terminated immediately and often large chunks of its line was terminated too.

The APBT is definitely tenacious, but it is untrue that their bite force is unmatched. Here is a NGC bite force competition between a Pitbull, Rottweiler, and German Shepherd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDxe24ud90&feature=PlayList&p=A4B081164A129B8C&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=6

BTW, My dogs sleep in "cages". They love their dens. It is their safe place from the whole world. Those cops murdered that dog in it's bed. Cowards indeed!

[J in AZ]

Apparently the dog was in a cage in the house when it was shot.
Conducting a military style SWAT entry for a misdemeanor marijuana offense,
shooting a caged dog in the process,
then having the gall to charge the occupants for "child endangerment" after the police fire multiple rounds in an occupied house,
the cops are power abusing cowards!


Apparently the pit bull was NOT in a cage:

Columbia, Missouri Police Chief: “I Hate the Internet”

Wednesday, May 12th, 2010

Columbia, Missouri Police Chief Ken Burton is apparently frustrated. At another press conference yesterday, a reporter asked the chief what he has learned from the international attention generated by the YouTube video of his department’s SWAT team conducting a drug raid last February.

His reply: “I hate the Internet.”

I’ll bet he does. For two-and-a-half months, Burton and his department were quiet about the raid. That’s likely because, as I wrote yesterday, the raid was really no different from the tens of thousands of similar raids conducted every year, and that are probably conducted by his own department a couple of times per week. Within days of the video hitting the web, Burton was forced to hold several press conferences, and has now laid out several reforms to the way SWAT raids will be conducted in Columbia in the future. I suppose it’s possible those reforms were brewing all along, and the timing of him announcing them after the video went viral was mere coincidence. It seems at least plausible, though, that the dread “Internet” sparked some actual policy changes, here.

Unfortunately the changes—while small steps in the right direction—still miss the point. Burton says his department will no longer conduct SWAT raids at night. They won’t conduct raids in homes where children are present. Suspects will be under constant surveillance until the raid is carried out. And raids will be conducted within a shorter period of time from when police get the initial tip about a suspected drug dealer. But the Columbia Police Department will still conduct volatile, violent, highly aggressive forced-entry raids on people suspected of consensual, nonviolent drug crimes. That is what’s wrong with the YouTube video. Changing the time of day of the raid doesn’t change the wildly disproportionate use of force.

Burton and his department have also criticized web commentary on the video, citing both death threats aimed at members of the SWAT team and an abundance of what Burton calls “misinformation” about the raid.

He’s right. I saw both. In particular, the description that accompanied the YouTube video (which today topped 1 million views) described the pit bull the police killed as crated when it was shot. It wasn’t. (I should disclose that I passed on this bit of incorrect information to several people while discussing the raid before discovering it was incorrect, though I didn’t put it in print). And death threats, even from keyboard commandos posting on Internet discussion boards, are inexcusable.

Continued here:

http://www.theagitator.com/2010/05/12/columbia-missouri-police-chief-i-hate-the-internet/

[General of Darkness]

J the Police Chief who's getting threats is saying it wasn't in a cage. Until I see proof, his word is crap.

[UncaScrooge]

J the Police Chief who's getting threats is saying it wasn't in a cage. Until I see proof, his word is crap.


And you call me an idiot??? :P

That statement above of your's tells me you must have been looking in a mirror when you made your statement in your post to me.

As Jack Nicholas might say:THERE WAS NO FREAKING CAGE!!! If you watch the video the guy who got busted said: " why'd you kill my dog? She probably just wanted to play with you."

But if you've programmed yourself to be paranoid, fine: everyone gets to have an opinion.

Guess I won't be paying much attention to your's, though.

When TSHTF, having a clear and dispassionate mind will mean more than being stocked up with guns and rice and beans... though toilet paper is right up there with having your head screwed on right! ;D

[Dave Thomas]

The warrant was probably issued because drugs "endangered" some poor children in the house.

So the state then sends a bunch of storm troopers in who discharge firearms in said house, you know, for the the children's safety.

When all you've got is a hammer and all that.

[UncaScrooge]

The warrant was probably issued because drugs "endangered" some poor children in the house.

So the state then sends a bunch of storm troopers in who discharge firearms in said house, you know, for the the children's safety.

When all you've got is a hammer and all that.


+1 on your post... sounds about right.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I bet the cops went home and lit up a joint themselves after that.


Hatha

[J in AZ]

I bet the cops went home and lit up a joint themselves after that.


Hatha


More likely they stopped at a bar on the way home to celebrate their successful raid,
got shit-faced drunk,
drove home drunk,
beat the crap out of their wives and children,
woke up hung -over,
went to work,
and busted down the doors of more people making the safer choice...