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Quantum
11th May 2010, 04:12 PM
This is a CNN general readership article, but some of the information isn't for the faint of heart or the kiddies...this is what Jewish Hollywood is spewing out for "entertainment" now...


http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/10/centipede.torture.movie/index.html?hpt=T2

The most disturbing movie ever made?
By Breeanna Hare, Special to CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* "The Human Centipede" thematically resembles torture porn but doesn't have the gore
* Critics liken watching the film to viewing a train wreck and being unable to look away
* Viewers are drawn to torture depictions out of curiosity, challenge, one expert says
* One movie critic guarantees this is not the grossest film yet

(CNN) -- If the title alone isn't enough to make you squirm, a brief rundown of the premise for the indie horror movie, "The Human Centipede," certainly will. Any film involving three humans sharing a single digestive tract obviously isn't aiming to be easy on the eyes.

Yet director/writer Tom Six's portrayal of a crazed surgeon who takes his skills at separating conjoined twins and uses them to create his own living human insect has left some critics appalled that it was even created; venerated critic Roger Ebert didn't think his star rating system was even applicable.

"No horror film I've seen inflicts more terrible things on its victims than 'The Human Centipede,'" Ebert wrote in his review. "The star rating system is unsuited to this film. Is the movie good? Is it bad? Does it matter? It is what it is and it occupies a world where the stars don't shine."

These kind of reviews -- filled with cautious synopses that often start with "warning, if you have a weak stomach, stop reading" -- is also exactly the kind of thing that piques the curiosity of fans of horror or "torture porn," although "Centipede" is thought to be such a psychologically challenging picture that it's almost outside of that category, said Rachel Belofsky, director of movie festival Screamfest L.A.

"It's definitely gut-wrenching, but I don't put it in that category. Torture porn is more graphic [violence], like in 'Saw,' and 'Hostel,' and it's typically viewable multiple times," Belofsky explained. People who watch movies within this gory horror sub-genre "are going to see the blood and guts, and they're trying to see what creative ways people are getting tortured."

While the creativity qualification is fulfilled, "Centipede" is different from its torturous predecessors in that the gore is implied rather than shown, asking the audience to use their imaginations and thus creating a more personal, and thereby uncomfortable, viewing experience.

"It's certainly less gory than 'Saw' or the 'Hostel' movies. Despite the fact that it's explicit, the uncomfortable moments are because of what you imagine could happen," said Las Vegas Weekly film critic [LINK] and FilmCritic.com contributor Josh Bell. There's a moment when the first person in the centipede line-up needs to defecate, and the audience is left imagining what the second person in the centipede is going through.

Moments like those are what made even the most die-hard fans leave the Screamfest viewing craving a shower and having not an inkling of a desire to sit through the movie again, Belofsky said. And yet, she added, they'll still "tell their friends that they have to see it because it's so messed up."

Having a desire to watch the movie in the first place may befuddle those who aren't fans of the genre, but for many moviegoers who enjoy a good scare or thriller, part of the interest to watch even the incredibly depraved is to satisfy a curiosity, said Kendall Phillips, Syracuse University Chair of the Department of Communication and Rhetorical research who wrote "Projected Fears: Horror Films and American Culture." The movie has that train wreck or car crash quality that -- sort of like with the viral video "Two Girls, One Cup" -- we crane our necks to get a better view even though we end up wishing we hadn't.

Secondly, Phillips said, there's a problem-solving pleasure at work. "We watch these films because we have to figure out how they get resolved. In torture porn, there's the guy strapped to a chair and he has a drill coming to his head and you're trying to think, 'how in the world is he going to get out of it?' We still have that hope of restoring something like normal and figuring out how you get past this point."

With films that rely less on a body count and more on extended displays of violence or sadism, sometimes people -- particularly adolescent males -- want to watch so they can say they lasted through the viewing, said Indiana University associate professor of telecommunications Andrew Weaver, who has studied the physiological and psychological effects of watching something frightening or disturbing.

"It's not that people like it -- the natural reaction to this kind of movie is fear and disgust," Weaver said. "The gratification comes from pushing yourself and proving to yourself what you can take."

While Phillips believes torture porn is correlated with a post-9/11 culture and its corresponding images of wartime violence, Weaver believes this type of movie, in which death is the resolution and not the climax, has been around for ages.

"When I was in high school, what was very popular among the adolescent males was this series called 'Faces of Death.' It was real-life images of murder, and it was gruesome and gory and disturbing even more so than some of these torture porn movies because it was real," Weaver recalled.

Now, Weaver said, "We have so many more ways to gain access to this kind of stuff. 'Faces of Death' was something that you had to get underground copies of, and now you can find that kind of stuff on the Internet pretty easily."

As a result, "maybe the filmmakers constantly have to push the idea [of torture] more to get that same audience's attention," he added.

The strong reaction to this film, then, "might be the fact that we're more discomforted that someone might defecate in our mouths than someone might cut off our limbs. It's a more visceral revulsion," Bell said.

There are horror flicks going straight to DVD every week that offer a plethora of individuals being hacked limb from limb by one crazed person or another, but the sharing of a gastric system is one that you don't come across, Bell said, and in that sense, yes, the filmmaker did something truly innovative.

But, he added, we can't say it's the limit to torture porn just yet.

"It's foolish to say of any movie that this is the furthest we'll ever go. Someone will see this movie and say, 'I can do more disgusting and more disturbing,' and they'll go out and do it. We can't necessarily imagine it right now, but it will happen," Bell said. "It may happen in the sequel to this movie."

Yep, you read that right -- there are plans to make a sequel to "The Human Centipede" with four times the number of victims, and odds are that someone, somewhere, will be curious enough to watch it.

I am me, I am free
11th May 2010, 04:58 PM
Many don't realize what this sort of filth does to their minds. Here's a review of Human Centipede which gives this steaming pile 2.5 stars - http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Calendar/Film?Film=oid%3A1024181

ximmy
11th May 2010, 05:03 PM
I wouldn't have any problem watching it happen to three bad cops.... one who shoots dogs, one who shoots men in the back, one who beats women.

Heimdhal
11th May 2010, 05:05 PM
Its appalling......that its not in 3D! I mean, in this modern age, I want to watch my horrific, deplorable violence in all the regal splendor that IMAX has to offer!!!






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Cebu_4_2
11th May 2010, 05:05 PM
trailer?

ximmy
11th May 2010, 05:06 PM
Its appalling......that its not in 3D! I mean, in this modern age, I want to watch my horrific, deplorable violence in all the regal splendor that IMAX has to offer!!!

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I think i heard the New playboy centerfold is 3-D... so technology is moving along .... :-\

Saul Mine
11th May 2010, 06:04 PM
So why did you post it here? It has nothing to do with gold-silver. It sounds like it doesn't deserve a mention on any other forum either.

LuckyStrike
11th May 2010, 06:18 PM
So why did you post it here? It has nothing to do with gold-silver. It sounds like it doesn't deserve a mention on any other forum either.

Where does it say that the GENERAL DISCUSSION area has to be strictly gold silver?

Apocalypto
11th May 2010, 06:41 PM
Oh, great. Another lousy movie.

Libertarian_Guard
11th May 2010, 06:52 PM
Quantum

Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be sure to take a pass on this, as I do with most new movies.

Bullion_Bob
11th May 2010, 09:13 PM
Behold,the human centipede...wow...cutting edge type stuff no doubt.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2rxbgp2.jpg

Festina Lente
11th May 2010, 10:55 PM
This isn't disturbing... it's freaking retarded. I wouldn't watch this if someone paid me to watch it.

Low_five
11th May 2010, 11:08 PM
yeah right. first person shits in second persons mouth, second person vomits and chokes on vomit and dies. centipede over.

Cebu_4_2
12th May 2010, 03:25 AM
DL now, will check this out.

Ash_Williams
12th May 2010, 04:00 AM
Oh great. Get ready for a wave of "Centipede reaction video"s on youtube.

steveoc
12th May 2010, 10:34 AM
Torrent avail on TPB. Was seeded about an hour after the movie premiered.

Its actually quite a tounge in cheek movie (so to speak), taking the piss out of the standard B grade horror movie plot. Dieter Laser is excellent as the over-the-top mad German scientist. The rest of the script is deliberately bad, and the acting from the victims and the police is also deliberately retarded. The only character with any depth is the doctor who performs the surgery.

Combine the depth and great acting from the villian - contrasted against the retardedness of the other actors, and its hard not to cheer the villian on in this film. There are many reasons why I can see that this film would be torn to shreds by certain film critics of a certain tribe ... but more on that later.

The whole film is a satire on the current crop of violence-porn that permeates the market, and is not in any way meant to be taken seriously. I suppose its sort of like an in joke amongst the arty crowd of indie film makers. The film is also having a dig at the typical evil-nazi-villian formula that many other films shamelessly cash in on (The doctor character, the audience is led to believe, is actually an ageless Dr Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz fame ... who's only disguise was to change his last name to 'Heitler' ... and that was enough to foil the authorities for the last 60 years).

The film basically makes a complete mockery of the over the top depiction of the typical nazi villian, to the point where the message that ends up sending is very subtle. This is not the way nazi villians are supposed to be typically portrayed.

Another point that is made in the 'marketting' for this movie is that they (claim to have) bought in qualified surgeons to consult on the medical procedures, to ensure that the audience are offered a '100% medically accurate' portrayal of how to build your own centipede. Complete with highly detailed instructions thanks to the overhead projector slides shown in the movie (A connects to B, connects to C ..... yep, thats pretty much it folks !!), you can see the value of having a qualified surgeon consult for the movie. More of a quirky comedy aimed at Hollywood than a shock-gore flick.

There are interviews online with Tom Six (producer/director), and he certainly doesn't take himself or this film seriously at all. If you have seen the trailer, you have seen the whole film.

Also, the sequel was announced several weeks before the film aired, and they plan to take only a few short weeks to make the sequel. (Spolier - same plot, but with a 12 person centipede ... due out in a few months from now)


Personally, I found this reality snippet far more disturbing :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELU3tBCRMBo

sirgonzo420
12th May 2010, 10:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wmTv2nqTHo

Book
12th May 2010, 10:57 AM
The film basically makes a complete mockery of the over the top depiction of the typical nazi villian, to the point where the message that ends up sending is very subtle.



...therefore going over the heads of 99% of the population.

Why didn't they instead depict an evil Israeli surgeon doing this to Palestinians...you know...make it current and relevant to TODAY?

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steveoc
12th May 2010, 11:14 AM
The film basically makes a complete mockery of the over the top depiction of the typical nazi villian, to the point where the message that ends up sending is very subtle.



...therefore going over the heads of 99% of the population.

Why didn't they instead depict an evil Israeli surgeon doing this to Palestinians...you know...make it current and relevant to TODAY?

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Wouldn't work at the box office mate ..... nobody pays to go see documentaries anymore :-*

TheNocturnalEgyptian
12th May 2010, 11:16 AM
I think by posting it, he's trying to up awareness of the rapid decline of our society. However, as stated, "These films warp your mind". Even mentioning it here advances that.

gunDriller
12th May 2010, 11:21 AM
sounds like a Quentin Tarantino movie.

Heimdhal
12th May 2010, 11:31 AM
Torrent avail on TPB. Was seeded about an hour after the movie premiered.

Its actually quite a tounge in cheek movie (so to speak), taking the piss out of the standard B grade horror movie plot. Dieter Laser is excellent as the over-the-top mad German scientist. The rest of the script is deliberately bad, and the acting from the victims and the police is also deliberately retarded. The only character with any depth is the doctor who performs the surgery.

Combine the depth and great acting from the villian - contrasted against the retardedness of the other actors, and its hard not to cheer the villian on in this film. There are many reasons why I can see that this film would be torn to shreds by certain film critics of a certain tribe ... but more on that later.

The whole film is a satire on the current crop of violence-porn that permeates the market, and is not in any way meant to be taken seriously. I suppose its sort of like an in joke amongst the arty crowd of indie film makers. The film is also having a dig at the typical evil-nazi-villian formula that many other films shamelessly cash in on (The doctor character, the audience is led to believe, is actually an ageless Dr Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz fame ... who's only disguise was to change his last name to 'Heitler' ... and that was enough to foil the authorities for the last 60 years).

The film basically makes a complete mockery of the over the top depiction of the typical nazi villian, to the point where the message that ends up sending is very subtle. This is not the way nazi villians are supposed to be typically portrayed.

Another point that is made in the 'marketting' for this movie is that they (claim to have) bought in qualified surgeons to consult on the medical procedures, to ensure that the audience are offered a '100% medically accurate' portrayal of how to build your own centipede. Complete with highly detailed instructions thanks to the overhead projector slides shown in the movie (A connects to B, connects to C ..... yep, thats pretty much it folks !!), you can see the value of having a qualified surgeon consult for the movie. More of a quirky comedy aimed at Hollywood than a shock-gore flick.

There are interviews online with Tom Six (producer/director), and he certainly doesn't take himself or this film seriously at all. If you have seen the trailer, you have seen the whole film.

Also, the sequel was announced several weeks before the film aired, and they plan to take only a few short weeks to make the sequel. (Spolier - same plot, but with a 12 person centipede ... due out in a few months from now)


Personally, I found this reality snippet far more disturbing :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELU3tBCRMBo


I watched the youtube above before I read your synopsis and came to exactly the same conclusion after the 2 minute or so trailer ended. Then I read your break down of it and just said "yeah, thats about what I thought."

Before seeing the trailer, reading what other 'critics' wrote I really thought that this was supposed to be some massivley horrific torture film that would put SAW and other such movies to shame and just be nothing by violence porn. Thanks for your realistic and down to earth review of the movie.

Low_five
12th May 2010, 11:34 AM
LOL LOL I just watched the trailer. STUPID! hahaha where do people come up with this stupid shit. hahah

Gaillo
12th May 2010, 11:59 AM
I think by posting it, he's trying to up awareness of the rapid decline of our society. However, as stated, "These films warp your mind". Even mentioning it here advances that.


Said another way:


Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

I'm personally hoping this thread will drop quickly into oblivion, hopefully as fast as the "movie" that it references.

Book
12th May 2010, 12:14 PM
Said another way:


Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.
- Friedrich Nietzsche


Nietzsche's mental illness was originally diagnosed as tertiary syphilis, in accordance with a prevailing medical paradigm of the time. Although most commentators regard his breakdown as unrelated to his philosophy Georges Bataille drops dark hints (""man incarnate" must also go mad")[27] and René Girard's postmortem psychoanalysis posits a worshipful rivalry with Richard Wagner.[28] The diagnosis of syphilis was challenged, and manic-depressive illness with periodic psychosis, followed by vascular dementia was put forward by Cybulska[29] prior Schain's and Sax's studies;[30] Orth and Trimble confirm that frontotemporal dementia[31] is indicated rather than syphilis, but refrain from speculating as to the cause.

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