Explaining NWO to Girlfriend [Archive]

steyr_m

13th May 2010, 10:30 AM

The other night I had something on one of my tabs with the heart icon from "iamthewitness". She wanted to know what it was, so I clicked on it. Right there was "Gentile Folly: the Rothschild's" by Leese. To make a long story short, she was not impressed.

What I'm trying to ask is, is there anything out there that describes NWO to the Oprah-zed masses out there that isn't too edgy? I started to explain some things and she just wanted to tune out and argue. MSM brainwashing has worked exceptionally well. I know asking her to read The Synagogue of Satan will not go over well.

PatColo

13th May 2010, 08:32 PM

ask her if WTC7 looks like a collapse due to fire, or more like a CD? Then go from there. 9/11 & WTC7 is a good portal down the rabbit hole for J6P. Show her 9/11 Mysteries on gootube.

aww jeez looky there, every time I check that number gets bigger, 1,195 licensed architects & engineers (http://ae911truth.org) now calling the official 9/11 CT a fraud! ;D

[center]http://www.ae911truth.net/flash/wtc7ani2.swf

Horn

13th May 2010, 08:47 PM

Did you ever ask her why the "Freedom Beacon" U.S. receives money from slave labor in China to stay in business?

AndreaGail

13th May 2010, 09:56 PM

I wish I could help but I have had limited success in this area

Maybe start out broad and play to her strengths...ie if she has military interest mention the USS Liberty, if she has an interest in food mention Monsanto and so forth

I've found that you just have to uncover it on your own it almost seems like. I remember I was quite oblivious, then I saw a show on the Tel-Avision in 2006, Jericho, looked up survival stuff, found GIM, and so forth...

Brent

15th May 2010, 11:01 AM

You could try either of David Dukes books. It would help immensely if she had no clue who he is. Depending on her age she won't, if thats the case I'd say its your best bet. If she still can't get certain concepts through her head after reading one of those then it is a pointless waste of time and you should just drop political discussions with her.

In my opinion Women have no place in politics or any important decision making. In general they are ruled by their emotions and cannot look at a concept rationally. So with that said I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if I were you when she rejects all of this in favor of a television or some sparkly vampire books.

Of course the feminazis on here will call me a Woman hater for simply wanting them to not have to deal with such serious (and often times VERY depressing) issues.

Oh and if you just want her to understand the basic concepts I would check out http://www.chrismartenson.com/ . That guy does a good job of explaining things pretty politically correctly.

Errosion Of Accord

15th May 2010, 01:55 PM

I tuned my gf in by showing her undeniable vids on youtube. Quotes from politicians and especially showing her how the fiat system works. I'd say stay away from tough to prove things like 9/11, and stick to stuff that is easily proven. Get her tuned in to her own rights as provided by the U.S. Constitution, that way she has ownership.

PatColo

15th May 2010, 08:28 PM

I tuned my gf in by showing her undeniable vids on youtube. Quotes from politicians and especially [???] showing her how the fiat system works. I'd say stay away from tough to prove things like 9/11, and stick to stuff that is easily proven. Get her tuned in to her own rights as provided by the U.S. Constitution, that way she has ownership.

Now I'm just going out on a limb & speculating here as to what you meant to say in that [???] omission/oversight in your reply, so please forgive me if I'm wrong, but did you mean to write, CELEBRITIES?? (http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html) ;)

jedemdasseine

16th May 2010, 12:53 AM

Having her read Synagogue of Satan...lol.
:D

Instead of approaching it head on, which tends to scare away most people, especially women, start by explaining real money. Women like money as much as men, so there's some common ground. Show her some junk silver coins and their modern cupro-nickel counterparts. Show her some silver or gold certificates and then modern Federal Reserve Notes. Ask her questions so she makes the connections on her own.

Let her feel the heft of the metals.

Whatever you do, don't talk down to her or make her feel stupid. It doesn't even matter what your intentions are, it's the way she perceives you.

Maybe understanding money is like sex. For her, it might be painful and uncomfortable at first, but eventually, if you know what you're doing, she'll be begging for it, which in this case would be more knowledge and truth.

Put yourself in her shoes. Try to see how she perceives you and go from there.

Maybe some of the ladies could chime in here. Any pointers for guys who have clueless girlfriends?

Get a new girlfriend? 8)
haha.

I think women naturally are concerned about protecting hearth and home, and so maybe relating these issues directly to her life would be a good place to find common ground. Otherwise, she probably just thinks you're looking at some kooky conspiracy site on the internet.

jedemdasseine

16th May 2010, 12:58 AM

The fact that she responded to the quotes is good. Finding assertions by people in authority and power lend credibility to you. "If all these rich and powerful people believe these things, too, then maybe my boyfriend is onto something...."

Serpo

16th May 2010, 02:59 AM

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/tyranny1.htm

check out this booklet

from the horses mouth

Hatha Sunahara

16th May 2010, 09:33 PM

Ask her to read the Protocols of Zion:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

That's a plan to get us to the NWO. That one document alone makes believers of skeptics.

Hatha

Levi Philos

19th May 2010, 07:30 PM

Some women will listen better if another woman presents the material.

Try some Dr Ellen Brown (Web of Debt) you tube videos.

And the comic book like presentations by Paul Grignon which are linked here: http://gold-silver.us/forum/finance-and-economics/money-as-debt-part-ii-promises-unleashed/

The Salvation Island story created by Louis Even in the 30s is also a comic strip layout and two versions exist.

goldmonkey

19th May 2010, 07:51 PM

k-os

19th May 2010, 08:59 PM

Some women will listen better if another woman presents the material.

This is so true. I talk mostly to my friends' husbands about precious metals and guns, and they will ask me to repeat things to their wives. Then it seems to click with them.

lapis

21st May 2010, 01:30 PM

In my opinion Women have no place in politics or any important decision making. In general they are ruled by their emotions and cannot look at a concept rationally. So with that said I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if I were you when she rejects all of this in favor of a television or some sparkly vampire books.

I like reading books about sparkly vampires and being informed on alternative topicsâ€”I'm not proud of the former, but just wanted you to know that it's possible to read trash and yet somehow get awakened. ;)

There's quite a few good 9/11 documentaries available on Netflix now. There's one that showcases some 9/11 families, mainly the "Jersey Girls" whose husbands died in 9/11 called "9/11: Press For Truth."

That's probably a good one to show women, because it's laced with tear-jerker scenes that will appeal to them, but also compelling information that will make even the staunchest blue pill-taker start to doubt the 9/11 Official Story.

A good way to get the ball rolling in conversations is to start with health topics. Most women are interested in health (well, at least looking good, and you can't do that easily if you're in bad health).

You can point out all the contradictory information on what's considered a "good" dietâ€”especially the pro-cholesterol news stories that are finally coming out in the mainstream that discredits the Cholesterol Myths we've been fed for decades.

One thing I love to question is why everyone is fat if they're on a low-fat, low-calorie diet and exercising all the time. It doesn't hurt that I'm a size 8 and my main dietary staples are grass-fed butter and loads of lard and bacon. ;)

kregener

21st May 2010, 01:54 PM

Tell her the NWO wants to close all shopping malls and nail salons and make texting illegal?

steyr_m

21st May 2010, 05:45 PM

Ask her to read the Protocols of Zion:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

That's a plan to get us to the NWO. That one document alone makes believers of skeptics.

Hatha

Yeah, but "The Jews are behind it" is scary for the sheeple. I'm trying to select a few good vids and maybe a long talk sometime.

hoarder

21st May 2010, 07:08 PM

Think "LAYERS".

I wouldn't try to lay the whole Jew-race thing on her at once, but if you do, don't mention it for a long time thereafter.

Stratified awareness works best. Based on a person's values, identity and pre-dispositions, decide which layer of awareness they will be most receptive to. After laying it on them, give them a few weeks to digest it.
Then decide on the next layer and so on.

UFM

26th May 2010, 02:33 AM

ShortJohnSilver

6th June 2010, 07:38 AM

Simplest, simplest way to start is to have her view the "Peter Schiff was Right" video.

Then ask her, "why if Ben Stein and (whatever the other guy's names are) were so wrong, are they still on TV"?

Once you get her questioning TV's version of reality, you will be able to expand a bit on that.

Bluegill

21st June 2010, 11:10 AM

I have had good results with one simple book.

Link to Article (http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986395/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277143301&sr=8-1)

G. Edward Griffin explains thing better than anybody I have ever seen for people new to the truth.

Most of the people I have loaned this book to become starved for more info about what is really going on. I then introduce them to..,

http://mises.org/, along with Tom Woods, Peter Schiff and Doug Casey. If that hasn't awoken them from their catatonic comatose sheeple submitizen stupor, I'm not sure anything will...

Stay away from Ellen Brown...

EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolliing. -Gaillo

kregener

21st June 2010, 12:48 PM

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

UFM

21st June 2010, 04:03 PM

sho pic of the girlfrend

Silver Rocket Bitches!

29th June 2010, 07:23 PM

Dump her.

She's dead weight when TSHTF.

Libertarian_Guard

30th June 2010, 12:08 AM

Print out a copy of "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler

Show her a one dollar bill and a one hundred dollar bill, and tell her it costs the federal reserve a few pennies to print either.

Hand her an ounce of silver and a $20 bill. Ask which is worth more now, then ask which will be worth more in ten years?

Like others have said, one layer at a time. Don't overload her world in one swoop, or you'll be creating a wall between yourselves.

Mention that monetary history is not learned in school, quite the contrary.

wildcard

30th June 2010, 09:59 AM

Tell her the NWO wants to close all shopping malls and nail salons and make texting illegal?

Haha, or shut down all the Twilight movies and books, and other vampire crap.

wildcard

30th June 2010, 10:00 AM

I have had good results with one simple book.

http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986395/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277143301&sr=8-1

G. Edward Griffin explains thing better than anybody I have ever seen for people new to the truth.

Most of the people I have loaned this book to become starved for more info about what is really going on. I then introduce them to..,

http://mises.org/, along with Tom Woods, Peter Schiff and Doug Casey. If that hasn't awoken them from their catatonic comatose sheeple submitizen stupor, I'm not sure anything will...

Stay away from Ellen Brown...

Russo's Freedom to Fascism vid is a good starting point too. Creature from Jekyll Island may be a little esoteric to the average person.

gunDriller

7th July 2010, 01:20 PM

i find books written by Jewish authors are sometimes helpful because they side-step charges about anti-Smitism.

i think it takes a combination of reading and being exposed to the news to understand.

e.g. Israel's attack on the aid flotilla. as spun in the US media, it was "completely legit".

but, after reading a website like
http://www.palestineremembered.com/
and realizing that Israel has been beating up on the Palestinians for 62 years - and lying about it, using the US media - the power structure may become partially visible to your girlfriend.

more books -
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (Hardcover)
by Walt Mersheimer
http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374177724
Mersheimer goes into great detail to factually describe what is alluded to in this other article in Ha'aretz, the Israeli newspaper - "Every appointee to the American government must endure a thorough background check by the American Jewish community.

Blood Passover
by Ariel Toaff
http://bloodpassover.com/index1.htm

George Bush, the Un-Authorized Biography.
See Chapter 2, about Wall Street financing Nazi Germany as late as October 1942.
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/

The Transfer Agreement
by Edwin Black
http://www.transferagreement.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Agreement-Dramatic-Between-Palestine/dp/0786708417

that only paints part of the picture. there's also the Wall Street crowd, Hollywood, Monsanto, even Obama's signing of the "Food Safety Act" are good examples of the Politics of Privilege.

i think it takes years of study. i suppose some people "just get it" - especially if they have been on the receiving end of cruel treatment by TPTB - but for me i had to work many years in corporate America and watch incidents like 9-11 to understand the meaning of the term NWO.

lapis

8th July 2010, 09:07 PM

One of the easiest ways to get women to think about this issue is to show them vintage clothing made in the U.S. pre-1965.

I have a beautiful 1950/60s thick wool coat I got for $25 back in the 90s that would now cost at least a few hundred dollars if it were made with the same materials and the same type of hand-stitched silk lining by good ol' Amurricans.

Up until the 1950s, satin clothing was primarily made with silk fabric. Now it's almost exclusively polyester.

Perhaps it's just my old-school bias, but it seems like the U.S. was at its height in the early to mid-60s. Cars, music, clothes, etc. were just great. Once the hippies got popular everything went downhill style and quality-wise. It's probably just a coincidence, but I blame them. ;)

Skirnir

8th July 2010, 09:44 PM

First, you should not have clicked the tab and dismissed it as 'nothing', and be careful of any more of her attempts to 'nest' in your personal space which includes the computer. After nesting often comes condoms with pinholes and 216 joyous payments of child support. You will probably ignore this warning, but that is not my problem.

Back to the matter at hand...based upon experience, using any of these approaches have a 95% chance of yielding the 'doe-in-the-headlights' look followed by missed phone calls. The simple fact is that such a small percentage of people think for themselves that presentation of facts is not an effective strategy. Propaganda i.e. 'public relations' works simply because everything is packaged in a simple, accessible format, which is impractical for these purposes.

That said, here is the cost-benefit analysis: there is a 95% chance of something neutral or not good happening with your arrangement if you try to wake her up. I would not advise proceeding.

Hatha Sunahara

14th July 2010, 08:50 AM

There is a one hour video made by G Edward Griffin (author of The Creature From Jekyll Island) called The Quigley Formula which is very well done and is a good introduction to the conspiratorial view of history.

Also, there are several books by John Coleman, most notable is The Committee of 300. Widely available on the internet, just Google it.

Hatha

Ares

27th July 2010, 10:31 AM

I woke my wife up with Zeitgeist part 3 of 3.

Every since she saw that, she sees the world much differently now.

Nitz

28th July 2010, 02:37 PM

I came here today to find documentaries or presentations on the illuminati/nwo myself, for a friend who is now interested. What are some of the better documentaries or lectures in yallz opinion?

MNeagle

28th July 2010, 06:11 PM

I came here today to find documentaries or presentations on the illuminati/nwo myself, for a friend who is now interested. What are some of the better documentaries or lectures in yallz opinion?

Have you tried the "Search" feature yet? If not, start there & you should find plenty.

gunDriller

29th July 2010, 12:19 PM

I came here today to find documentaries or presentations on the illuminati/nwo myself, for a friend who is now interested. What are some of the better documentaries or lectures in yallz opinion?

http://iamthewitness.com/

Daryl Bradford Smith, one of the best historians on the planet. runs circles around any of the history professors i met in college.

peepnklown

29th July 2010, 08:42 PM

Well, it is truly hard to teach a person at level 1, when you are at level 339 and you have to teach women differently than men so; it is a lot of additional work if you are willing to try. I would start at very low levels; you cannot touch 9/11, the FED, revisionist history, Zionism, etc. You have to find stuff that either affects them now or they can see around them. I think an easy start would be money (taxes) and big brother type government (but, keep to the low level stuff).

gunDriller

8th August 2010, 07:16 AM

maybe one way to start is to just ask her about times in her life when she noticed that people got preferential treatment, or were dishonest with her, and ask about the circumstances & demographics of the people involved.

i also think understanding the Holocaust is key. one good book for that is "The Transfer Agreement"

The Transfer Agreement
by Edwin Black
http://www.transferagreement.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Agreement-Dramatic-Between-Palestine/dp/0786708417

another good book to understand the exaggeration of the Holocaust -

The Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry
by Walter Sanning
http://www.amazon.com/Dissolution-Eastern-European-Walter-Sanning/dp/0939484110

once she realizes she's been fed a line of bullshit about the Holocaust, she'll probably get a little angry, and start asking "why ?", and "who benefits ?"

once she starts asking those kinds of questions, she's on her way.

keehah

8th August 2010, 02:26 PM

Perhaps this is more for an older woman who remembers when this was widely MSM covered, but how about starting with chain letters?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_letter

A typical chain letter consists of a message that attempts to induce the recipient to make a number of copies of the letter and then pass them on to as many recipients as possible. Common methods used in chain letters include emotionally manipulative stories, get-rich-quick pyramid schemes, and the exploitation of superstition to threaten the recipient with bad luck or even physical violence or death if he or she "breaks the chain" and refuses to adhere to the conditions set out in the letter.
In the United States, chain letters that request money or other items of value and promise a substantial return to the participants (like the infamous Make Money Fast scheme) are considered a form of gambling and therefore illegal. Other types of chain letters are viewed as a general nuisance in that frequently multiplying letters clog up the postal system and do not function as correspondence mail, but rather, a game.

If she gets it, perhaps not too big a jump to fiat money and Wall Street as other pyramid or ponzi schemes.