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singular_me
14th May 2010, 06:49 AM
why?

Because the only purpose and meaning of Life is that Man must learn to be the Master of Himself. That is the only One World Religion that is worth it. Learning to stand on his two feet, just like a child making his first steps. This is the NWO's worse fears ever..

There is no way around if we're relly serious about eradicating hieracrhy in every field. Asking for a hierachy is asking for being deceived. We got the rulers we deserve because fearful of Freedom and Free will. This hs the deep root cause of all our miseries.

But this will demand us to deal with and address our own dualiities within first. The price tag to attain a higher consciousness/ spirituality.

Fighting among one another is vain and futile. This last battle has nothing to do with NWO and co... but each for/against one's own. The NWO incarnates our worse fears. We have materialized it because we triied to escape our responsibilities for millennia.... it was a endless mere Escape from The Eden, to put it Biblical terms...

There is no gurus and masters out there to teach us that... it is an individual realization. And we'd better hurry to put this into action, otherwise the technology era will be our TOTAL enslavement.

Yes, this is a battle of Good versus Evil... but the evil lies wihtin each of us. The failure to grasp the meaning and purpose of Life, and what the Universe/God is expetcing us to achive every day... that is why He created the negative/positive polarities... to show us the path and respect for Life in the broad sense. We have to embrace it... or else...

Should you disagree with this... why are you still taxation enablers? Think about it and you will realize your own participation in the upcoming Doomsday. Taxation is a mere example, but ask you this just about just everything... and get to terms with the enabler within you/us

Book
14th May 2010, 07:11 AM
But this will demand us to deal with and address our own dualities within first.



You first. Tell us about YOUR dualities so maybe we can understand what you are trying to say here. Be specific please.

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singular_me
14th May 2010, 07:45 AM
But this will demand us to deal with and address our own dualities within first.



You first. Tell us about YOUR dualities so maybe we can understand what you are trying to say here. Be specific please.

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Book, do try to escape the bototm line... are you an enabler or not... Are you taking action to address your own particpation in doomsday or not - instead of blaming the pro-zionist/NWO cartel??

It all comes down to self responsibility. We allowed the NWO to come into existence... there is no way around if you want to see this from a pro-freedom persepctive.

fighting against the system while going along with it at many levels, is a dual behavior. No??

singular_me
14th May 2010, 07:48 AM
Are you no longer paying taxes of any sort?


since I went off the grid last september, I have paid taxes this year... Next year, I will pay mininalistic taxes or NO taxes at all.

The own's ranch (place where I live) invests so much in preps and home improvement, that he too pays minimalistic taxes. At least he does something that is good for his own survival.

I am NOT advocating for tax avoidance if you have a regular day job - but arrange your life in away to drastically lower tax dues yearly, with honest means... if you install solar power for example, it is a home improvement that is tax deductible... try to see if/how you can make your own biofuel/gas for your car... do whatever you can to honestly pay MUCH LESS.

take responsibily one step at the time...

singular_me
14th May 2010, 08:11 AM
did you read me well... or replied too fast as I was not done responding to you

Next year, I will pay mininalistic taxes or NO taxes at all.

I just started to take action, putting my own advice into concrete form... and now you lecture me about itt?? Come on shooting whateter messenger will not help, because what I say makes fully sense.

Change cannot happen overnight... it comes from a thought process then deciding of what we an do at our own level... that is what I am working on.

singular_me
14th May 2010, 08:47 AM
As I see it, you're not shedding the tax responsibility, you're just transferring it to your new owner.Don't start insulting the rest of us. You're not doing any better. Worse, in fact IMO.

didnt you read well eaither what I said about the owner... however that I am here or not, he has the same basic costs. this prpoerty is huge... His fitghing taxation by making REAL investments that are tax deuctible. Thats the only way to go for him.

can you see why paying minimalistic taxation would bring down the cartels?

In the absolute, if we were just doing that, taxation will go away completely by itself. A slow dismantlement of the cartel is preferable over an abrupt change.

because, you'd rather bet on an instant and total revolution, which is precisely what the NWO to install marshal laws. But most of the people will just go along with riots anyway... this shouldnt prevent us from acting peacefully individually and not get into the armerd battle when it occurs. .

Insulting??? so is advocating to take action peacefully an insult? you seem to have trouble to accept your own particpation in doomsday, hence your reactiom: shooting the messenger.

singular_me
14th May 2010, 09:08 AM
Don't start insulting the rest of us. You're not doing any better. Worse, in fact IMO.


it is however interesting to see that you keep to focus on the taxation argument while you discard the intro: - and the fact that I urge to take responsibility instead of blaming the NWO for all our ills . then bash someone who is trying to make it happen at her own level.... its. Insighful to say the least..

I have delt with my own participation and feel soooo sorry for the pain I have inflicted to the world, by my own ignorance. Humility is key to start with.

[quote]Because the only purpose and meaning of Life is that Man must learn to be the Master of Himself. That is the only One World Religion that is worth it. Learning to stand on his two feet, just like a child making his first steps. This is the NWO's worse fears ever..

RJB
14th May 2010, 09:10 AM
Enjoy your duality.
Watch it. If you point out a contradiction in her view of her own self-righteousness veneer, Goldie will smite you, set the timer for an hour and come back and smite again for the next few hours.

It's how I like to accumulate smites. Watch mine shoot through the roof after this post. ;D

singular_me
14th May 2010, 09:24 AM
You're just changing owners Goldy. These aren't YOUR doings,

we cannot escape this... life is impossible withoiut interraction. I help him and he helps me... The fact is that we are living COMPLETELY off the land here... that is why your take makes no sense at all. Freedoml lies in self-sustainability at this stage and as long as you go along with the premise, you help lower down the evil worldwide.

The owner never waited for me to come here to start his property improvement, he would done it anyway... with or without me.

You are mixing apples and oranges here, sorry. I am talking of helping out our fellow humans versus the cartels.

singular_me
14th May 2010, 09:35 AM
Ultimately there is NO insults because in the BIG picturs, this has been going for millennia... and anyone understanding this, cannot feel insulted... education has been a deceit since ever and it is up to fix that now...

and again, I feel extremely sorry for having been a part of the whole scheme most of my life . I feel the pain of Mankind...

7th trump
14th May 2010, 09:47 AM
You're just changing owners Goldy. These aren't YOUR doings,

we cannot escape this... life is impossible withoiut interraction. I help him and he helps me... The fact is that we are living COMPLETELY off the land here...

The owner never waited for me to come to do his property improvement, he would do ikt anyway... with or without me.

You pay taxes because you are a member of the socialist Goldie, not because of some duality.
Social Security is the reason behind paying income taxes. I know, I've studied it for about 14 years or so.
Roosevelt in 1935 enacted SS. Roosevelt in the late 20's or very early 30's, as president of the US, joined the US in the ILO (International Labor Organization). This organization has its roots from communist Russia (bolshevic revolution). Those who join pass legislature to impliment usery through social reform IE: ss retirement, food stamps, welfare and host of other commune ideals. Taking from one to give to another.
This is how the ten planks of communist manifesto are implimented here in the USofA.
There is no law making anybody get a ssn or use the number if you have one. The SS Act has no provisions of mandatory participation. However, if you use the number you will be 26USC 3121(b) "employed" (required to fill out a W4) earning taxable income 26USC 3121(a) "wages" which fall into the same catagory of wages as 26 USC 3401(a) "wages" that government 26USC 3401(c) "employee" are and earn.
You see Goldie its you thats the problem and you can make a choice to which political class you want to be in, An American or a 14th amendment "US citizen". I dont really think you can be a full fledged untaxable American with your dark colored ancestry.
The 14th amendment didnt make coloreds free as the white race as the 14th amendment didnt secure Constitutional Rights for them, but gave them privileges in the form "civil rights" of the "Civil Rights Act of 1866" as opposed to the Bill of Rights.
Along comes FDR and his little dirty little back door SS Act into communism that when you apply and use the number you are the same as a 14th amendment colored people (see 5USC 552a (13). It strips you of Constitutional protections against the government from approachment.
If you do not beleive me then research 26CFR 1.1-1(c) and read the first paragraph of the 14th amendment...............there identical and gives you why the IRS can collect a tax from you if you make Social Security 3121(a) "wages" for crediting your SS account.

RJB
14th May 2010, 09:57 AM
I'll be serious for a moment. You are making yourself out to be a pointless martyr.

I agree with a few posts Magnes made about you. However I disagree with him that you are out to purposely deceive people. (Based on what you've written in the past.) I see it as you suffered some serious emotional injuries in the past from family, religion etc. It has become your reality that you try to impose on others.

I say this because there have been times in the past that Russkie, me, or someone else AGREED with you, yet you turned it into an argument. There are lots of times you have posted something that I agree with, yet instead of continuing to find common ground (Such as going off grid-- that's my goal in the next few years as well) you will find a way to warp your thread into a way of attacking, western culture, Christians, who ever you feel has wronged you in the past... It's occured to me that you are less inclined to search for truth, but rather find re-enforcements to prove that your self induced reality that everything from your past is evil, and that anyone who even touches on something from your past is wrong.

You are not the only one now, in the past or in the future who questions.





Ultimately there is NO insults because in the BIG picturs, this has been going for millennia... and anyone understanding this, cannot feel insulted... education has been a deceit since ever and it is up to fix that now...

and again, I feel extremely sorry for having been a part of the whole scheme most of my life . I feel the pain of Mankind...

RJB
14th May 2010, 10:03 AM
BTW, if you doubt me re-read the preachiness of your posts. You are becoming what you strive to distance yourself.

Book
14th May 2010, 10:48 AM
BTW, if you doubt me re-read the preachiness of your posts.


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condescension

Main Entry: con·de·scen·sion
Pronunciation: \ˌkän-di-ˈsen(t)-shən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Latin condescension-, condescensio, from condescendere
Date: 1647

1 : voluntary descent from one's rank or dignity in relations with an inferior
2 : patronizing attitude or behavior

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singular_me
14th May 2010, 11:43 AM
I'll be serious for a moment. You are making yourself out to be a pointless martyr.

not a martyr, I take responsibility... go on and continue the blame game instead of acting upon it at your own level... being here and chatting about the zionist-NWO, is a good thing, dont take me wrong... but what about the action???

If you are not into "self-introspection" mode, of course we could pass on the duty to take action to the NEXT generation - thats what got us into this mess.

Strangely when we talk about compassion and freedom, one gets trashed. Talk of a mind-controlled state of mind.

Taxation was a mere example, sorry if it struck a nerve... but pain it out there, time to get in touch with it for real... maybe will you feel better the pain when the elites unleash full destruction mode upon us... indeed, everybody has to realize this at his own level first.

But FREEDOM 101 is out there: we got the governments we deserved since the beginning of ages because generation after one another, we got fooled over and over. The devil loves gulibility and naivete and when the difference between victims and perpetrors get blured. .

Not a martyr but SELF AWARE.

But I can easily assume why some are envious about me making the first step toward self-sustainability. On the old GIM, I got many messages congratulating me on this move and that stipulating that. I was fiortunate enough at this stage in my life that I was able to do it for myself and had little responsibilities in terms of household. Maybe because I always been a free thinker, serenpity played out in my favor. I call myself very lucky.

Sincreley folks, what is wrong with saying, take responsiility and learn as how become your own master to defeat the NWO?

I dont smoke pot, maybe you do to help you postpone the painful choices.

1970 Silver Art
14th May 2010, 11:48 AM
Enjoy your duality.
Watch it. If you point out a contradiction in her view of her own self-righteousness veneer, Goldie will smite you, set the timer for an hour and come back and smite again for the next few hours.

It's how I like to accumulate smites. Watch mine shoot through the roof after this post. ;D


I wish that more posters would do that for me. I am trying to accumulate 1000 smites by December 31, 2010. An hour is not a very long time to wait to smite me again. ;D

On topic: Even if a person pays "minimalistic taxes", they are still paying taxes. Maybe I am wrong here but paying minimalistic taxes will probably starve the beast but how long does a person have to pay minimalistic taxes to starve the beast. How many people would be needed to pay "minimalistic" taxes to starve the beast? Too many people will not care. The general public is not willing to do what it takes to pay "minimalistic" taxes because it will make them uncomfortable and it will put a dent in their lifestyle.

1970 Silver Art
14th May 2010, 11:54 AM
I'll be serious for a moment. You are making yourself out to be a pointless martyr.

not a martyr, I take responsibility... go on and continue the blame game instead of acting upon it at your own level... being here and chatting about the zionist-NWO, is a good thing, dont take me wrong... but what about the action???

If you are not into "self-introspection" mode, of course we could pass on the duty to take action to the NEXT generation - thats what got into this mess.

Strangely when we talk about compassion and freedom, one gets trashed. Talk of a mind-controlled state of mind.

Taxation was a mere example, sorry if it struck a nerve... but pain it out there, time to get in touch with it for real... maybe will you feel better the pain when the elites unleash full destruction mode upon us... indeed, everybody has to realize this at his own level first.

But FREEDOM 101 is out there: we got the governments we deserved since the beginning of ages because generation after one another, we got fooled over and over. The devil loves gulibility and naivete and S&M ganes.

Not a martyr but SELF AWARE.

But I can easily assume why some are envious about me making the first step toward self-sustainability. On the old GIM, I got many messages congratulating me on this move and that stipulating that. I was fiortunate enough at this stage in my life that I was able to do it for myself and had little responsibilities in terms of household. Maybe because I always been a free thinker, serenpity played out in my favor. I call myself very lucky.

Sincreley folks, what is wrong with saying, take responsiility and learn as how be your own master to defeat the NWO?


There is nothing wrong with what you are doing. You are doing what you feel it is best to become self-aware and to not rely on the gov't beast. There are a lot of people (including myself) that are not willing (or able) to do what you are doing. Talk is cheap because talking the talk is easy but walking the walk in much harder to do and not many people are willing (or able) to walk the walk willing to do what you are doing.

RJB
14th May 2010, 12:00 PM
Over all you believe you are self aware. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'll reply to one of your posts to see later that you editted it to read something the complete opposite. Again, you do not seek truth, but rather proof that others do not have the truth. Don't feel bad, everyone is guilty of that. It's just the holier than thous who get called on it.


b]not a martyr, I take responsibility..[/b]. go on and continue the blame game instead of acting upon it at your own level... being here and chatting about the zionist-NWO, is a good thing, dont take me wrong... but what about the action???

If you are not into "self-introspection" mode, of course we could pass on the duty to take action to the NEXT generation - thats what got into this mess.

Strangely when we talk about compassion and freedom, one gets trashed. Talk of a mind-controlled state of mind.Calm down. That was hardly a coherent rant.


Taxation was a mere example, sorry if it struck a nerve... but pain it out there, time to get in touch with it for real... maybe will you feel better the pain when the elites unleash full destruction mode upon us... indeed, everybody has to realize this at his own level first. You didn't strike a nerve I agree.


But FREEDOM 101 is out there: we got the governments we deserved since the beginning of ages because generation after one another, we got fooled over and over. The devil loves gulibility and naivete and S&M ganes. Look in the mirror. Seriously.



But I can easily assume why some are envious about me making the first step toward self-sustainability. On the old GIM, I got many messages congratulating me on this move and that stipulating that. I was fiortunate enough at this stage in my life that I was able to do it for myself and had little responsibilities in terms of household. Maybe because I always been a free thinker, serenpity played out in my favor. I call myself very lucky I congradualated you, and I'm working to that goal of self sufficiency too.


Sincreley folks, what is wrong with saying, take responsiility and learn as how be your own master to defeat the NWO?
And again here's preaching to those who agree with you.

singular_me
14th May 2010, 03:57 PM
On topic: Even if a person pays "minimalistic taxes", they are still paying taxes.


yes taxation is daunting and sensitive issue because it shows the problem with submission/hierarchy and thus the failure for address this if one wishes the world to really change for the best. If people have accepted this coercion for millennia long, what can I say beside deciding that I will do whatever it takes to stop being an enabler - again AS BEST AS I CAN.

starving the beast overnight will not help but creates more dislocation... once politicians get the message, they will start seeing their own wrong doings... however, if you still think that revolution is better, just go for it. I do not advocate for violence. That is the whole point in doing whatever you can to drastically lower tax dues.

whatever folks, I seriously plan to moving to the conspiracy forum, there menbers are a lot more open minded than most of you..

That is WHY they dont show up here!!! They fear the bashing!. So keep chatting among each others against the evil zionists and pat yourselves on the back

This thread title tells it all... it is AGAINST gurus and coercive dogmas. So if christians took it in the wrong way, is christianity coercive or what???

But on the other hand, I am sure it NEVER was Christ's intent for it to be this way. I can see this when some jump in and trash a message of "compassion", caring for the world. Christ went through this and paid the heavy price tag... (whether he has existed or not is irrelevant, the message is beautiful)

somehow I tend to believe that if Christ was coming back, he would go through the same ordeal again, I am afraid... The Roman Church has done a good job, There is a spirtitual conspiracy involving most religions, and still despite this, followers dismiss the core issue, that of spreading fears to prevent the latter from being responsible. It is a recurrent pattern in most religions.

aka Goldissima is going to take a short vacation... I am sure many born-agains will be very happy... I have other things to do, helping out here at the ranch and taking care about on my my/our surivial.

This fight for Rigthenousness will not end well, and nobody will be proven neither right or wrong... dualities at work. So keep fighting vainly against your onw selves!

I feel the pain of the world, if you dont, just wait and see.

1970 Silver Art
14th May 2010, 06:55 PM
On topic: Even if a person pays "minimalistic taxes", they are still paying taxes.


yes taxation is daunting and sensitive issue because it shows the problem with submission/hierarchy and thus the failure for address this if one wishes the world to really change for the best. If people have accepted this coercion for millennia long, what can I say beside deciding that I will do whatever it takes to stop being an enabler - again AS BEST AS I CAN??

starving the beast overnight will not help but creates more dislocation... once politicians get the message, they will start seeing their own wrong doings... however, if you still think that revolution is better, just go for it. I do not advocate for violence. That is the whole point in doing whatever you can to drastically lower tax dues.

whatever folks, I seriously plan to moving to the conspiracy forum, there menbers are a lot more open minded than most of you..

That is WHY they dont show up here!!! They fear the bashing!. So keep chatting among each others against the evil zionists and pat yourselves on the back

This thread title tells it all... it is AGAINST gurus and coercive dogmas. So if christians took it in the wrong way, is christianity coercive or what???

But on the other hand, I am sure it NEVER was Christ's intent for it to be this way. I can see this when some jump in and trash a message of "compassion", caring for the world. Christ went through this and paid the heavy price tag... (whether he has existed or not is irrelevant, the message is beautiful)

somehow I tend to believe that if Christ was coming back, he would go through the same ordeal again, I am afraid... The Roman Church has done a good job, There is a spirtitual conspiracy involving most religions, and still despite this, followers dismiss the core issue, that of spreading fears to prevent the latter from being responsible. It is a recurrent pattern in most religions.

aka Goldissima is going to take a short vacation... I am sure many born-agains will be very happy... I have other things to do, helping out here at the ranch and taking care about on my my/our surivial.

This fight for Rigthenousness will not end well, and nobody will be proven neither right or wrong... dualities at work. So keep fighting vainly against your onw selves!

I feel the pain of the world, if you dont, just wait and see.


Honestly I do not know if revolution is better or not but do not consider myself to be a violent person but everybody is capable of being violent if they are forced to defend themselves. Revolution might work but there is one problem.......If violence is used, then the gov't will have bigger guns and will use more violence to squash the "revolution". Who really wins in a revolution? There would be a lot of casualties. I do not know enough about the evil zionists to post on it. I am just reading other points of views and making my own decision on what to believe (or not believe).

Here is what I know so far since I have been on GIM1 and here:

1.) The U.S. gov't is fucked up.

2.) The U.S. $ is FUBAR.

3.) The general masses do not care because their sedentary lifestyle will not interrupted.

4.) Gold and silver are very good to have.

5.) Prepping is a good thing.

Like I said, I am still learning.

singular_me
14th May 2010, 08:17 PM
dito 1970 Silver Art, and I hope you will muddle through. You seem well informed, keep searching and making up your own mind.

80% People here on this forum are prepared for the revolution,and nothing else, ready to die for an ideology and dogma (another bloody repeat)... I do not. Then when you tell them about the far reaching effects of 4000 years or fraudulent history, they just blame others while ignoring the responsibilities of their ancestors and theirs.

Just like the topic of slavery, the deportation of black africans could not have taken place without the african leaders at the time. so, who are the culprits in the end?

I am sick and tired about this blame game that has brought nothing to mankind but destruction... and now doomsday.

RJB
15th May 2010, 06:02 PM
80% People here on this forum are prepared for the revolution,and nothing else, ready to die for an ideology and dogma (another bloody repeat)... I do not.Again here you are being narrowminded and judgemental. I'd put it more at 20%, and that's mostly trash talkers. Stereotypes are based on the loudest of a group, not the majority.

2nd you can't keep the ideologies of those you condemn straight. You've called Book a bible thumber, when he makes fun of bible believers. You also mentioned above about me going on about the Zionist NWO, in reality I've probably made 2 posts both here and on in the 1000s of posts on GIM1.

3rd (Here's my own made up statistic) If revolution broke out tomorrow, less than 10% would think they know what they're fighting for and most would be wrong. My only goal is to get my family the heck out of the way of this senselessness.


Then when you tell them about the far reaching effects of 4000 years or fraudulent history, they just blame others while ignoring the responsibilities of their ancestors and theirs.From what you post, you have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what I (or other Christians) believe. It's based on your warped "reality." How's that for your duality?



I am sick and tired about this blame game that has brought nothing to mankind but destruction... and now doomsday. LOL so am I. Would you care to look at your blaming me and other Christians for your bitterness? You are the biggest game blame player I've met. Re-read your posts.

Book
15th May 2010, 06:21 PM
You've called Book a bible thumper, when he makes fun of bible believers.


She did...lol. Actually, I only make fun of bible-thumping israel-loving zionist green bear. Otherwise, I leave the Christians and other Believers alone in the Religion and Philosophy section. Fine by me if they want to argue bible passages. They harm no one.

:D

Serpo
19th May 2010, 05:07 AM
Yes ,throw away the books and dogma(already have) to find TRUTH,FREEDOM,LOVE

This will come about as surly as night follows day

singular_me
19th May 2010, 06:38 AM
Again here you are being narrowminded and judgemental. I'd put it more at 20%, and that's mostly trash talkers. Stereotypes are based on the loudest of a group, not the majority.
only time will tell who is right here... just wait and see how bloody the streets can get... when I spoke of ideology, it was about a christian based education... not born agains exclusively. Pointing to this forum was not a wise thing, I agree. But when I see all those anti-zionist postings, it gives me the creeps if this mentality (that jews are the only evil doers) start spreading like wild fire as we are on the brink with a war with islam.. My projection could be kinda exaggerated but in time of and absolute misery people's mind shifts quickly, you would be very surprised. At this stage I doubt self-wareness to be able to stop the upcoming massive destruction linked to the dark alliance of mainstream religions with the NWO. I hope to be proven wrong though.


You've called Book a bible thumber, when he makes fun of bible believers. You also mentioned above about me going on about the Zionist NWO, in reality I've probably made 2 posts both here and on in the 1000s of posts on GIM1.

not 1000's but maybe 500 at the most... and several weeks before the GIM break up, I had already stopped intervening in the their threads. Because I learned from the downside of jumping in a thread whose stance I dont agree with. I sticked to the same position here.

If chirstians are fast to point to me as the devil... I dont take it too personally, this is how they view the world whatsoever, and yes I am sure they would apply it to anybody else not subscribing 101% to their stance. But I can understand why they get irrated when they are told that fear is the root of all evil. Too bad - for them.


You've called Book a bible thumber, when he makes fun of bible believers.
sure there are countless christian derived churches, and I noticed they all fight among one another... but the point is that Book only can brand me as a satan worshiper on the boards, so he fits the label of an radical. I am not judging his interaction with other christians but how he behaves towards me. As he has cpmpletely run out of arguments all he can do is harrassment, just go to the "Anarchy in my life time" thread . There he truly exposed himself for what he truly is.


My only goal is to get my family the heck out of the way of this senselessness.

and I wish you the best of luck.


LOL so am I. Would you care to look at your blaming me and other Christians for your bitterness? You are the biggest game blame player I've met. Re-read your posts.
why? because I ask everybody to understand that each of us has allowed this coming world demise to occur. I stated that I was aware of my own participation by not taking action, like many fell asleep at the wheel... only woke up 10 years or so ago... I call this humility and self-responsibility. There is no bitterness at all.

also anyone understanding "the duality principles", will automatically espouse a non interventionist stance and grasp why religious monopolies are just big interventionist machines. They all carrry the seed of their own demise within. I am sure Jesus didnt want that... but Constantine and his followers made sure for it to be this way.

singular_me
19th May 2010, 07:22 AM
Yes ,throw away the books and dogma(already have) to find TRUTH,FREEDOM,LOVE

This will come about as surly as night follows day




yes dogmas have always been at odds with spiritual evolution. Everybody's path is different, while all leading to the same conclusion. Dogmas dont respect this...

keehah
19th May 2010, 10:39 AM
Good thread. Any path towards truth should be tempered by fire and ice.

Another writes on her journey, sharing not so much for Scientology, but on the phenomena:

My Karma ran over my Dogma or An Enlightenment Critique of Scientology (http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/read/karma-dogma.html)


So long as Scientology is under the control of an elite few, it will never be of lasting benefit to mankind. To be of service to mankind, Scientology must be democratized. By democratized, I mean it must be made opened for use, discussion and debate. It cannot be owned, monopolized and edited by a few people. There are some inherent contradictions in Scientology and these contradictions must be acknowledged and resolved. They will never be acknowledged or addressed by the management of an institution that enforces belief in a dogma.