3,500W generator with life time guarantee.....

[Ponce]

From "Sportsman's Guide" 1-800-458-3006

Price is of $269.97 and shipping $54.00 and it includes the LIFE TIME GUARANTEE, FOUR 120v outlets, one 240V outlet and one 12V with circuit breaker, gas tank 3.5 gallons.

It comes in a cage with wheels and a handle to pull it around.

I already have six generators but this is the best one yet and specially with the life time guarantee no questions ask.

[k-os]

The lifetime guarantee sells it for me. I have a generator, but if I didn't I would get one that offers a lifetime guarantee, for sure.

[mick silver]

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/alton-3500w-power-generator.aspx?a=669146

[I am me, I am free]

'lifetime guarantee' on a Hecho en Chino gasser genset lol

NO 3600 RPM genset is going to last for more than about six months of steady use.

A relative has a beach house in Mexico - there's no electricity available on the beach, everyone uses a genset (and/or solar). EVERYONE that uses a gas genset in that area replaces their gensets every few months.

That 'lifetime guarantee' nonsense is strictly a sales gimmick.

[striped_bear]

Who will be accepting warranty returns after TSHTF?

[I am me, I am free]

Who will be accepting warranty returns after TSHTF?


Exactly.

And what happens when the Hecho en Chino pipeline gets shutdown?

What about spare/replacement parts for one of these Hecho en Chino products??? something most don't consider for a product more subject to breaking than quality made equipment

[Defender]

None of the generators I looked at on SP offered a lifetime warranty. Not even Honda's have that. Have a link?

At that price I guarantee it is an aluminum engine that doesn't even have an iron sleeve. Even if the engine could last for more than a few thousand hours, if you're lucky, the altenator won't.

[hoarder]

'lifetime guarantee' on a Hecho en Chino gasser genset lol

NO 3600 RPM genset is going to last for more than about six months of steady use.

A relative has a beach house in Mexico - there's no electricity available on the beach, everyone uses a genset (and/or solar). EVERYONE that uses a gas genset in that area replaces their gensets every few months.

That 'lifetime guarantee' nonsense is strictly a sales gimmick.
Well said..
A guarantee is a paper asset.

Avoid generators that run faster than 1800 RPM unless they are Hondas. I won't even buy them.
Avoid generators that are made in China (I have heard some of their heavy-duty low RPM industrial ones are okay).

[I am me, I am free]

'lifetime guarantee' on a Hecho en Chino gasser genset lol

NO 3600 RPM genset is going to last for more than about six months of steady use.

A relative has a beach house in Mexico - there's no electricity available on the beach, everyone uses a genset (and/or solar). EVERYONE that uses a gas genset in that area replaces their gensets every few months.

That 'lifetime guarantee' nonsense is strictly a sales gimmick.
Well said..
A guarantee is a paper asset.

Avoid generators that run faster than 1800 RPM unless they are Hondas. I won't even buy them.
Avoid generators that are made in China (I have heard some of their heavy-duty low RPM industrial ones are okay).



What many people don't realize is that there are literally dozens and dozens of 'manufacturers' of equipment in China, everything from some hole in the wall operation with a handful of help to very large operations with all levels of (what passes for) quality in China. While there are many uniform designs for equipment in China, not all are to spec. Really, even getting one of those 'heavy duty' 1,800 RPM diesel gensets Hecho en Chino can be a crap shoot. And again, what about replacement parts for the Hecho en Chino junk?

[Book]

Not your "Lifetime" but their lifetime...lol.

[hoarder]

What many people don't realize is that there are literally dozens and dozens of 'manufacturers' of equipment in China, everything from some hole in the wall operation with a handful of help to very large operations with all levels of (what passes for) quality in China. While there are many uniform designs for equipment in China, not all are to spec. Really, even getting one of those 'heavy duty' 1,800 RPM diesel gensets Hecho en Chino can be a crap shoot. And again, what about replacement parts for the Hecho en Chino junk?
I'm mechanically inclined so I buy older US made stuff. Most of the US made generators made in the last 25 years are pretty marginal, too. I'm constantly scouring Craigslist for old Onans and Listers (England).
Those who can't turn wrenches might be better off with a Honda.
When you live off grid you never have too many generators.

[LuckyStrike]

The best guarantee is the one you don't have to use.

Look who offers the longest warranties on cars, the cheap korean ones (and now the bankrupt US ones).

[Ponce]

I don't trust the generator to much but I do trust Sportsman's Guide, with them for about ten years and never had any problems with returns.

About "Asians" cars..........my little Toy pick up is now 20 years old and running like and old Singer sewing machine.......love it.

[crazychicken]

Look for a Murphy genset. 1,200 rpms

I have one--large--225 Kw that runs on 35% waste oil, properly filtered of course. 41,019 hours on it. Doesn't shut down except for maintenance.

Its twin brother is out getting rebuilt right now. 56,165 hours. Estimated rebuild cost is $27,500

Murphy used to make smaller ones. If you can find one anywhere in any condition it will beat the best you could find today.

CC

[crazychicken]

Another genset, old model, Caterpillar with D-343 engine. I've run them with 40% waste oil as well as a one year stint with colloidal fuel.

It will last two days after forever. Almost.

The last one I had departed this earth with 61,000 hours. Three rebuilds.

CC

[willie pete]

That's not a generator-

This IS a generator :D

[crazychicken]

That's not a generator-

This IS a generator :D






YEAH MAN!

CC

[LuckyStrike]

About "Asians" cars..........my little Toy pick up is now 20 years old and running like and old Singer sewing machine.......love it.


I said korean not asian, meaning daiwoo hyundai etc.

I drive a Tundra mainly because Toyota isn't unionized and because I won't support Government Motors.

[Ponce]

Nordic, that's why so many companies went overseas......it was cheaper overseas because of the unions in the US.........the union bosses keep on telling the employees to ask for more, more, more till the companies owners said MO MORE, and went overseas.

[LuckyStrike]

Nordic, that's why so many companies went overseas......it was cheaper overseas because of the unions in the US.........the union bosses keep on telling the employees to ask for more, more, more till the companies owners said MO MORE, and went overseas.


Most definitely, plus my Tundra is made in Texas while GM trucks are made in either Canada or Mexico. So much for buying American.

[kiffertom]

i have a yamakoyo generator. when i looked up parts on the internet it says use honda parts. it is a copy of a honda made in the honda plant in china. even honda cant stop the bootlegging of its own generators in its own plant.

[Gknowmx]

Good thread! It seems to me that running any generator is wasteful 9/10 without a battery bank. I would be interested in who has the best real-world experience with battery bank ideas; building a good battery-based distribution systed might be the best way to extend the life of any generator.

[hoarder]

Good thread! It seems to me that running any generator is wasteful 9/10 without a battery bank. I would be interested in who has the best real-world experience with battery bank ideas; building a good battery-based distribution systed might be the best way to extend the life of any generator.
Most off-grid homes, whether solar, hydro or wind powered have battery based distribution systems so you could peruse some of the solar websites.

Mine uses an Iota 55 amp battery charger which comes in handy when there's snow on the roof mounted solar panels.
Square D "QO" type breaker boxes work either with AC or DC and are good cheap distribution boxes.

Lots of people on northern exposures or because of budget constraints simply use a generator and a bank of batteries. The issue with these systems is whether generating 120VAC and converting it to 12 or 24 VDC is efficient. Some people simply attach a car alternator to a small engine and thereby have a completely 12 VDC system.