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goldmonkey
15th May 2010, 07:41 PM
Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given.

“There’s a shocking amount of oil in the deep water, relative to what you see in the surface water,” said Samantha Joye, a researcher at the University of Georgia who is involved in one of the first scientific missions to gather details about what is happening in the gulf. “There’s a tremendous amount of oil in multiple layers, three or four or five layers deep in the water column.”

The plumes are depleting the oxygen dissolved in the gulf, worrying scientists, who fear that the oxygen level could eventually fall so low as to kill off much of the sea life near the plumes.

Dr. Joye said the oxygen had already dropped 30 percent near some of the plumes in the month that the broken oil well had been flowing. “If you keep those kinds of rates up, you could draw the oxygen down to very low levels that are dangerous to animals in a couple of months,” she said Saturday. “That is alarming.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/us/16oil.html

I am me, I am free
15th May 2010, 08:03 PM
10 miles long x 3 miles wide x 300 feet thick = ~251 billion cubic feet (using statute miles, not nautical miles)

Seems pretty incredible in size, but for the sake of argument 1 cubic foot equals 7.48 gallons.

If that underwater plume is only ten percent of the size they've stated that's still over 1.8 billion gallons of oil.

I don't know what to make of that assertion.

striped_bear
15th May 2010, 08:34 PM
Good lord, they should begin making plans to (somehow) seal off the Gulf from the rest of the ocean.

Ponce
15th May 2010, 08:41 PM
Every time that I think that it is bad, bad, bad, it turns into worse, worse, worse.

The final word on this will never be really known because not everything will happen at once but over a period of a longggggggggggg time.

Again........"Many will die over this"...............

mick silver
15th May 2010, 08:50 PM
ponce why is the other countrys not saying some thing about this . and why are not more people that know how to do the work that is needed not in helping . i know the water deep were this is taking place but dam someone has to have a way to stop this

striped_bear
15th May 2010, 08:56 PM
Revelation 8

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

silver_surfer
15th May 2010, 09:26 PM
Revelation 8

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.


That passage crossed my mind when they were talking of the size of the spill

Low_five
15th May 2010, 09:33 PM
whats cool about that passage is that he was clear that it was something that wasnt a mountain, but was like a mountain.

Defender
15th May 2010, 11:49 PM
whats cool about that passage is that he was clear that it was something that wasnt a mountain, but was like a mountain.
This has been called an "oil volcano." A volcano is a type of mountain. And oil = blood of the earth?

I think many people have interpreted this passage as a meteor or something crashimg into an ocean. Maybe it's not. But before assigning scriptural significance to this event, one has to account for 6 prior seals being broken and the first trumpet sounding. Perhaps Eyjafjallajokull, other volcanoes, and various earthquakes fit the opening note of the 1st trumpet and the consequences run concurrently with the second. And the third... building into a crescendo rather than a distinct series of events

Libertarian_Guard
16th May 2010, 12:17 AM
Good lord, they should begin making plans to (somehow) seal off the Gulf from the rest of the ocean.


http://i44.tinypic.com/33ue72o.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8684912.stm

Low_five
16th May 2010, 12:28 AM
whats cool about that passage is that he was clear that it was something that wasnt a mountain, but was like a mountain.
This has been called an "oil volcano." A volcano is a type of mountain. And oil = blood of the earth?

I think many people have interpreted this passage as a meteor or something crashimg into an ocean. Maybe it's not. But before assigning scriptural significance to this event, one has to account for 6 prior seals being broken and the first trumpet sounding. Perhaps Eyjafjallajokull, other volcanoes, and various earthquakes fit the opening note of the 1st trumpet and the consequences run concurrently with the second. And the third... building into a crescendo rather than a distinct series of events



I think the rig itself would be the mountain burning and falling in to the sea.

striped_bear
16th May 2010, 07:45 AM
I think the rig itself would be the mountain burning and falling in to the sea.


http://www.treehugger.com/burning-oil-rig-explosion-fire-photo12.jpg

Gknowmx
16th May 2010, 07:56 AM
Every time that I think that it is bad, bad, bad, it turns into worse, worse, worse.

The final word on this will never be really known because not everything will happen at once but over a period of a longggggggggggg time.

Again........"Many will die over this"...............


Not so fast with the 'worse, worse, worse', Ponce. It is more like 'change, change, change'. Where is the balanced debate and rational analysis from those who think this might simply stimulate a different ecosystem: ocean bacteria are stimulated to eat the oil, plankton eat the bacteria, fish eat the plankton and so on.

Two weeks ago the whole gulf coast was predicted to be dead and soaked in oil. And yet, little to none of the predictions of doom are true. When do the radical environmentalist sit down and shut up and admit that they don't understand nature? Gaia is more than able to handle anything man can throw. What man does may not be good for all of mankind, but it is hubris to think that the future of this planet hangs in the balance of man. Hubris.

I am not saying we should cap the leak, improve the discovery and development process and how we hold folks accountable.

Here is what we know, if you are alive today, you WILL die.

Ponce
16th May 2010, 08:45 AM
Oh noooooooo, if is going to be change, change, change and we use Obama as an example then I'll change it from worse, worse, worse to DISASTER.

About the kid in the picture? all dress up and nowhere to go, better to go home and use his kiddie pool.