Gulf Oil Disaster - Incompetence, or Engineered?

[Gaillo]

So, what say you all? Was the BP Gulf Oil Disaster the result of incompetence, or was it engineered?

[steveoc]

Id lean towards saying "incompetent management motivated by greed and a lack of professionalism"

But then ... WTF did they order SWAT teams out there to secure the platforms after the news broke ?

Whatever the real reasons, I doubt we will ever know the whole story. File it away along with the JFK/911/Iraq/etc, etc file

[I am me, I am free]

other, engineered incompetence lol

[Uncle Salty]

Who benefits if it was engineered?

No winners there.

They just screwed the pooch with their shortcuts and arrogance.

[Bigjon]

Who benefits if it was engineered?

No winners there.

They just screwed the pooch with their shortcuts and arrogance.


http://pesn.com/2010/05/05/9501645_No_joke--Goldman_Sachs_shorted_TransOcean/


A. True Ott, Ph.D., wrote the following to me last night:

I have confirmed that there were indeed numerous "shorts" placed on TransOcean stock just days before the "problem". Was it Goldman Sachs? That is yet to be conclusively determined (there is indeed a SEC investigation ongoing) -- but labeling something as "satire" is a lawyer's shrewd trick to keep from being sued for slander -- even if it is all true. Moreover, there were massive shorts placed literally seconds after the news hit the airwaves.

Who would dare to quote the actual e-mails from "Fabulous Fab", unless the writer would post them as a "satire" - especially after what happened to the Wall Street Journal writers who dared expose the 9-11 short sales involving Goldman Sachs. (They were assigned to Afghanistan, and had fatal "accidents" there.)

Dr. Ott has subsequently confirmed from two sources that Goldman Sachs was indeed in on the shorts being placed on TransOcean stock. (See Email from Don Nicoloff documenting Goldman Sachs short puts on TransOcean stock.) And he has confirmed that the comedian was aware of that as well.

Dr. Ott had me and Paul Noel on his two-hour radio show yesterday talking about the viral article we posted, "Mother of All Gushers Could Kill Earth's Oceans".

In response to the alleged Goldman Sach's shorting story, Paul, who is an expert on the Gulf Oil subject, provided the following intelligence:

There is a reason they could have known the rig was going to fail up to two weeks ahead of its failure. The nature of these wells is that they leave the drill mud in the well and compress using very heavy drill mud to keep the well from blowing up unlimited. The well would begin to bump (similar to boiling a big bubble) and the acoustic signals would tell the rig was in trouble that far ahead. Goldman Sacks could just have had inside info. They also know the scale of things. This is the best explanation. It could be otherwise.

If you were going to sabotage a drilling team, all you would have to do is load a lighter mud in the mix as they pulled a drill pipe. .... There are lots of ways to have this happen either accidentally or deliberately. Goldman teams are great on statistical stuff sort of like the odds of rolling dice. They might just have figured stats for probability of a failure.??? Of course we could surmise other reasons are possible.

In our interview with Dr. Ott yesterday, both Paul and myself pointed to the magnitude of this disaster as hopefully a death knell to the oil industry, spurring people to finally provide the support needed to get the myriad of free/renewable energy technologies that have been languishing into the marketplace. These would not only be much cleaner than oil, without the huge environmental consequences and risks, but in many cases they could be cheaper than fossil-based energy; and many of them provide distributed capability removing the need for a central grid.

This revelation about those with insider knowledge in fact shorting the TransOcean stock prior to the explosions, will hopefully also spell the beginning of the end of the ultra corrupt financial faction who have wrested control over the worlds financial organs. Their days are numbered as they show their true colors in the midst of an increasingly enlightened populace who will not continue to take their abuses. These ultra power and wealth addicts need to be humbled by serving time in prison with common criminals who will not give them privileged treatment. A bullet or lethal injection would be far too merciful and dignified.

Do we have a shred of clean justice left in our corrupt government system which has been bought out, blackmailed, threatened, or otherwise brought under the control of these New World Order manipulators?

It's a dark day in which we live. But I am confident that brighter days are ahead. This time of transition is going to be a wild ride.

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[messianicdruid]

"These ultra power and wealth addicts need to be humbled by serving time in prison with common criminals who will not give them privileged treatment. A bullet or lethal injection would be far too merciful and dignified."

Apparently, this guy has never heard of merciful justice.

[Quantum]

If the shorts are proven, that's a smoking gun. And the accomplice to make it happen was Halliburton, involved in cementing the well cap.

[SLV^GLD]

I have no firm opinion one way or the other.

I find that position the most intelligent to remain in on most topics, especially World Events.

It's not that I like the way the fence feels on my crotch but it's the opportunities for critical thinking that I enjoy.

The key question is whether or not the official sequence of events leading to the explosion can be shown to include fabrication. I think that in due time it will. At that point you have the polarization needed to mitigate any potential mass repudiation of those found to be directly associated with the fabrications.

[Glass]

other, engineered incompetence lol

QFT

[Hatha Sunahara]

Until I understand otherwise, I would attribute this disaster to lady luck, with a little incompetence thrown in. The luck of the draw. I'm normally paranoid about this kind of thing, but we are at the edge of technology with deep water wells. The incompetence part is from the government not enforcing their own laws on the drillers.

Hatha

[Neuro]

The smoking gun would be if it was confirmed that GS or some other organization went all in shorting the exploration company. Until that is confirmed or rejected I am sitting on the fence, as has been mentioned these deepwater drillings are at the limit of human technology so it can be due to just bad luck!

[I am me, I am free]

The smoking gun would be if it was confirmed that GS or some other organization went all in shorting the exploration company. Until that is confirmed or rejected I am sitting on the fence, as has been mentioned these deepwater drillings are at the limit of human technology so it can be due to just bad luck!


Luck or the lack of had nothing to do with the blowout, there was a confluence of extreme mega fuckups, any single one of which could have caused the blowout. Each of these fuckups (one leg of BOP control inoperative, the BOP annular seal destroyed via operator error, ram(s) altered to act as test ports thus rendering them inoperative, what's actually in place on the seafloor doesn't match the specs on the plans, BP manager pushing for a ramped up schedule, etc.) can be tied in an individual or small group of individuals.

[Neuro]

I don't know if these fuckups were normal operating procedure at an oil rig... I can imagine that they are...

[keehah]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/16/60minutes/main6490087.shtml

Speaking about what led up to the massive blowout, Mike Williams told Pelley, "I hear the engines revving. The lights are glowing. I'm hearing the alarms. I mean, they're at a constant state now. It's just, 'Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.' It doesn't stop. But even that's starting to get drowned out by the sound of the engine increasing in speed. And my lights get so incredibly bright that they physically explode. I'm pushing my way back from the desk when my computer monitor exploded."

...Mike Williams was the chief electronics technician aboard the Deepwater Horizon. He was below deck in his office when the explosion occurred.