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Ares
17th May 2010, 04:24 PM
DETROIT — Police who carried out a raid on a family home that left a 7-year-old girl dead over the weekend were accompanied by a camera crew for a reality television show, and an attorney says video of the siege contradicts the police account of what happened.

Geoffrey Fieger, an attorney for the family of young Aiyana Jones, said he has seen three or four minutes of video of the raid, although he declined to say whether it was shot by the crew for the A&E series "The First 48," which has been shadowing Detroit homicide detectives for months.

Police have said officers threw a flash grenade through the first-floor window of the two-family home, and that an officer's gun discharged, killing the girl, during a struggle or after colliding with the girl's grandmother inside the home.

But Fieger said the video shows an officer lobbing the grenade and then shooting into the home from the porch.

"There is no question about what happened because it's in the videotape," Fieger said. "It's not an accident. It's not a mistake. There was no altercation."

"Aiyana Jones was shot from outside on the porch. The videotape shows clearly the officer throwing through the window a stun grenade-type explosive and then within milliseconds of throwing that, firing a shot from outside the home," he said.

A&E spokesman Dan Silberman said neither he nor anyone else from the network would comment about the case, and he denied a request by The Associated Press for the footage.

Detroit police were trying to obtain the film crew's footage, Assistant Chief Ralph Godbee said Monday.

Fieger said the investigation into what happened during the raid "needed to go no further than the videotape."

"The videotape shows clearly that the assistant police chief and the officers on the scene are engaging in an intentional cover up of the events," Fieger said. He said more than one camera was recording at the scene, and that the footage includes sound.

Police arrested the target of the raid, a 34-year-old man suspected of killing a 17-year-old boy, in the upstairs unit in the two-family home. Police had warrants to search both properties, and family members of the slain girl were seen going in and out of both on Monday. The suspect has not been charged, and it was not immediately clear what relationship he had to the slain girl.

The case has been handed over to the Michigan State Police to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said Monday.

Some, including the slain girl's family and others, have questioned what effect the cameras may have had on the tactics used to conduct the raid on the home, which had toys strewn about the front lawn on Monday.

Two prominent criminal defense attorneys said they were unaware of past instances when Detroit police used flash grenades in raids when children were possibly present.

"That's a new one," said Detroit lawyer Corbett Edge O'Meara. "That does seem to be a pretty extreme measure. It doesn't surprise me that the police had no concern whether they were endangering the lives of children when they made this raid."

Attorney Marvin Barnett was more blunt: "I've never heard that before in my entire career, that you've thrown a flash bomb in a house unless you've got an armed suspect and you know there is nobody else in the house."

"I'd like to know who gave the order to do that," Barnett said.

Godbee said the department was confident the film crew's presence had no effect on how the raid was conducted. He said the police department's use of flash grenades is decided on a "case by case" basis.

"It primarily goes to the severity of the crime and the potential of violence from the offender we're trying to get in custody," Godbee said.

He declined to comment on whether the officers involved in the raid were aware children were in the home.

"Our tactics absolutely will be addressed and assessed at the appropriate time," Godbee said.

The family was left searching for answers. They retained Fieger, a high-powered attorney who also represented assisted suicide advocate Dr. Jack Kevorkian, but the girl's father said he wants to know what led to his daughter's death.

"They killed my baby, and I want someone to tell the truth," he said Sunday.

Police have not identified the officer whose gun fired the shot that killed Aiyana. Godbee said he is a 14-year veteran with six to seven years on the Special Response Team, and that he has been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.

The officer was cleared following a nonfatal shooting last summer. Police were fired upon by someone barricaded in a house and returned fire, Godbee said.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7009434.html

Glass
17th May 2010, 04:30 PM
All I can say is, fancy that hey?

Defender
17th May 2010, 05:11 PM
They wouldn't do that! :sarc:

I'd say it's RIOT time.

StackerKen
17th May 2010, 05:17 PM
yeah, The cops screwed up again....
why couldn't they stake the place out and wait till he came out of the house?

to easy I guess.

General of Darkness
17th May 2010, 08:36 PM
I really hate Monday morning quarterbacking, but if this is the truth then those policemen should be shot. An eye for an eye.

Now let's not forget, the reason they were there was to get a MURDERER. It's apparent that these people KNEW him. I personally think that everyone is at fault. Cops, parents, the entire lot of them.

bonaparte
17th May 2010, 08:47 PM
I personally think that everyone is at fault. Cops, parents, the entire lot of them.


Ummmm.... NO! A seven year old is never at fault for being killed. The cop/cops that shot that girl should do life in prison at a minimum.

People (not aiming this at you specifically G of D) Please open your eyes and stop being sympathetic to the police when someone is shot. Police are supposed to be professionals, they are not to shoot the innocent (and in the United States you are innocent until proven guilty), so no shooting anybody (unless they are shooting you) until after the trial!

Horn
17th May 2010, 08:54 PM
Attorney Marvin Barnett was more blunt: "I've never heard that before in my entire career, that you've thrown a flash bomb in a house unless you've got an armed suspect and you know there is nobody else in the house."

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

General of Darkness
17th May 2010, 09:06 PM
I personally think that everyone is at fault. Cops, parents, the entire lot of them.


Ummmm.... NO! A seven year old is never at fault for being killed. The cop/cops that shot that girl should do life in prison at a minimum.

People (not aiming this at you specifically G of D) Please open your eyes and stop being sympathetic to the police when someone is shot. Police are supposed to be professionals, they are not to shoot the innocent (and in the United States you are innocent until proven guilty), so no shooting anybody (unless they are shooting you) until after the trial!



No worries, and just to clarify, I'm NOT sympathetic to the cops. I'm actually against what they're doing and where they're going, and pray for them and myself that they never try and pull that b.s. against me. However, the family is not innocent or should I say, they played a role in this by their actions. They harbored a MURDERER in THEIR house were the dead child lived. If they didn't do this, this wouldn't have happened. Also, if the kwaps weren't made up of cowboys and egotistical affirmative action asshole the child might be alive. I don't know. From my point of view the story sounds like the perfect storm.

The biggest problem we face is that the cops are becoming militaristic, and that has to stop.

J in AZ
17th May 2010, 09:35 PM
They harbored a MURDERER in THEIR house were the dead child lived. If they didn't do this, this wouldn't have happened.


From the article in the OP:

"Police arrested the target of the raid, a 34-year-old man suspected of killing a 17-year-old boy, in the upstairs unit in the two-family home. Police had warrants to search both properties, and family members of the slain girl were seen going in and out of both on Monday. The suspect has not been charged, and it was not immediately clear what relationship he had to the slain girl."

This article (and another one I read earlier today) reads as if they were not harboring a murderer: a suspected murderer was in the upstairs unit of a 2 family home (AKA: a duplex). They did a military style SWAT entry on the wrong half of the duplex and recklessly killed an innocent member of the family (or so it seems at this time).

Buddha
17th May 2010, 09:59 PM
Wow! What a surprise! :sarc: Playing devils advocate, even if the gun did accidentally discharge it is still at least manslaughter. These are supposed to be highly trained professionals. I kickbox, and I don't go around accidentally kicking people in the head.

But anyway, the shot was fired consciously after grenading the home, the term murderous pig comes to mind. Could you imagine if this happened the other way and a civilian raided the home of a cop that killed someone unscrupulously, and ended up killing the cops daughter?

Twisted Titan
18th May 2010, 08:24 AM
Detroit police were trying to obtain the film crew's footage, Assistant Chief Ralph


I bet no expense of time enegry or resourses will be spared in obtaining the original.


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Quantum
18th May 2010, 02:19 PM
Now let's not forget, the reason they were there was to get a MURDERER.


So the pigs claim.




It's apparent that these people KNEW him. I personally think that everyone is at fault. Cops, parents, the entire lot of them.


The only ones at fault are the Satanic whores (so-called "judges" and persecutors) who sent them there, and the Satanic pigs who invaded the home.

If pigs want to capture someone, wait around until they come out.

Quantum
18th May 2010, 02:22 PM
Could you imagine if this happened the other way and a civilian raided the home of a cop that killed someone unscrupulously, and ended up killing the cops daughter?


Yeah, we'd have a taxpayer-paid national memorial set up.

The only proper response to ANY home invasion is a hail of lead & steel. Maybe the pigs will get the point if more of them get sent to Hell, where their orders ultimately come from.

Quantum
18th May 2010, 02:23 PM
[i][b]I bet no expense of time enegry or resourses will be spared in obtaining the original...


...and deleting the relevant minutes.

ximmy
18th May 2010, 05:49 PM
"There was a really good chance firing a random shot into the home could have killed the wanted suspect.... Oh well... That's life in the big city" ~Detroit Officer