Oops! CA gets 25% of their power from AZ:)

[sunshine05]

This is really good! Sorry I was not able to edit the letter so the text is straight but I'll include the link.



AZ utility board member responds to LA boycott over SB1070

posted at 2:55 pm on May 18, 2010 by Ed Morrissey


The Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott the state of Arizona over its new immigration-enforcement law, and now the Arizona Corporation Commission has responded. Gary Pierce, one of the commissioners chosen in state-wide elections to the utility regulation panel, notes that Los Angeles gets about 25% of its power from Arizona producers. If the City of Angeles really wants a boycott, Pierce offers his services to help, as he explains in a letter to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and copied to Hot Air:

Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)

I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

Sincerely,

Commissioner Gary Pierce

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/18/az-utility-board-member-responds-to-la-boycott-over-sb1070/

[Heimdhal]

HAHA, Boycott plan = epic back fire fail! ;D

[Olmstein]

http://www.firstmarkcontrols.com/pmc0401_b2.jpg

[Book]

The Union is dissolving before our eyes.

[mick silver]

cut the power to calf

[StackerKen]

Very cool. :D

[bonaparte]

Too bad Arizona doesn't have the balls to actually do it.

[StackerKen]

this is good too.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/17/la-city-councilman-blasts-az-law-for-provisions-in-ca-penal-code/

LA City Councilman blasts AZ law for provisions in CA penal code

Before critics of Arizona’s new immigration law make fools of themselves, they should really try to read the bill. And if those critics are officials of other states or cities, maybe they should take a quick tour of their own laws first, too. Kerry Picket at the Washington Times interviewed Los Angeles City Councilman Ed Reyes, who said that he would need his passport to travel in Arizona, but she points out that the very same provisions to which Reyes objects exist in California’s own penal code:

The Los Angeles City Council’s vote to boycott Arizona caused more consternation than anything else. LA City Council members voted an overwhelming 13 – 1 to terminate any city contracts with Arizona (worth around $7.7 million) as did other American cities who have considered resolutions to protest the Arizona law or seek boycotts. Among these cities are San Francisco and Saint Paul, Minnesota. …

“I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport,” Los Angeles Councilman Ed Reyes, a Democrat, said before the vote. “If I come across an officer who’s had a bad day and feels the picture on my ID is not me, I could be summarily deported — no questions asked. That is not American.”

Kerry has plenty of audio within the Times article, but transcribes the key points:

PICKET: Where exactly in the law does it say that? Considering that it prohibits that? As I’m asking here, federal law which has been around for about seventy years has been saying that undocumented individuals have to be carrying papers, so what exactly has changed between federal law of the last seventy years and Arizona’s law?

REYES: What’s changed is you have a very active effort to round up people that look a certain way, and if you have proof you are an American citizen that let you go, and if you don’t they deport you. So now, that I look like a Mexican, and I am Mexican American, I become a target.(AUDIO)

PICKET: Why is this law considered any different than what has been around for the last seventy years…because it’s being enforced?

REYES: Why does a state have to call that out? Why can’t it just follow the federal law like you said for the past seventy years? (AUDIO)

Well, why does California have to call it out, Councilman Reyes? Kerry did a little digging and found this nugget in Section 834b in the California Penal Code:

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

Sounds very similar to the provisions of SB 1070, the bill that prompted LA’s City Council to launch its boycott of Arizona. Will they also now boycott their own state? They do seem to be conducting a boycott of common sense and legal scholarship at City Hall.

[iOWNme]

Divide and Conquer.

[Twisted Titan]

Let LA go dark

See how nice the illegals play then.


T

[JDRock]

Too bad Arizona doesn't have the balls to actually do it.


The " balls" it lacks is the gutted 10th amendment.
If they REALLY want to play dirty, shut the WATER flow to la.....they'll be on their knees in 8 hours.

[kregener]

Too bad Arizona doesn't have the balls to actually do it.


I dunno.

We seem to be showing some fairly large cajones recently, no?

[Dirty Harry]

Too bad Arizona doesn't have the balls to actually do it.


I dunno.

We seem to be showing some fairly large cajones recently, no?


:lol :lol :lol :lol

[AOW]

Another oops - Seattle just jumped on the AZ boycott bandwagon. ::)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2011897563_danny19.html


Who are we to judge Arizona?


Not long after Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn announced on his Facebook page that he would approve a city boycott of Arizona because of its new immigration law, someone from the Grand Canyon State posted a pesky little question.


Danny Westneat

Seattle Times staff columnist


Not long after Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn announced on his Facebook page that he would approve a city boycott of Arizona because of its new immigration law, someone from the Grand Canyon State posted a pesky little question.

"Didn't Seattle just beat the 'mexican' out of a 'homie' who was just walking home ... ?" the man wrote. "And you think we are bad in AZ ... go wash your hands Seattle."

Man's got a point, don't you think?

Isn't it more than a little awkward for us, via our City Council and mayor, to pick this moment to lecture other places on racial profiling and police behaving badly?

The top Seattle-related video so far this year on YouTube shows our finest kicking an innocent man in the head and threatening to "beat the [expletive] Mexican piss" out of him.

So yes, it is awkward. At least it seemed so Tuesday at City Hall.

"Look, I didn't push the boycott," McGinn said when I asked him about it. "That came from the council."

Not all council members were exactly bursting with pride, either. I ran in to new Councilman Mike O'Brien, who voted for the boycott but said he did so grudgingly as it has no teeth and is almost entirely symbolic.

I asked McGinn whether it's wise to wag a finger at Arizona right now. The Arizonans have only threatened to go all police state on Mexicans. Our police are already there.

"I'm not trying to claim the moral high ground here," McGinn said. "We know in Seattle we're not perfect. We don't always live up to our ideals.

"But I do think it's OK to make a statement of our values, of what we want our values to be. That's what the boycott does."

Except the boycott leaves out the only meaningful contract the city has with an Arizona company — the 30 red-light cameras that spit out tickets and rake in millions for the city.




McGinn answered bluntly when asked why the red-light cameras contract was not part of the boycott.

"You may have noticed we have a budget deficit here," he said.

Now that's a statement of our values!

Seriously, though: Our grand principle is that we believe in equal treatment as long as it doesn't cost us any money?

With respect to the Mexican piss incident, is it that we're sorry, so sorry, as long as it doesn't cost anybody their jobs?

The video is nowhere near the worst police misbehavior ever captured on tape. On a scale of 1 to 10, if the Rodney King beating is a 10, this one is maybe a 3.

What makes it matter, though, is the casualness of it all. The cameraman reacts in surprise when an officer kicks the prone guy's head. But he's the only one who does. The assembled cops stand around like they're playing croquet.

That's the problem. You can just tell they've done this before.

James Kelly, head of the Urban League, was at City Hall Tuesday to call for the officers to be fired. He agreed we're in a poor position to judge Arizona at the moment.

"We need to look at ourselves in the mirror. We're engaging in policing that's just as bad, or worse, than what Arizona is doing."

We can't boycott ourselves, though.

One Latino after another said Tuesday at City Hall how the incident will linger in memories for years. How it's not an isolated case in Seattle. And how there's no easy answer — that patching up race relations with Seattle police will be a long, difficult slog.

You can see why the city found it so alluring to tell someone else, far away, to fix their problems instead.

Danny Westneat's column appears Wednesday and Sunday. Reach him at 206-464-2086 or dwestneat@seattletimes.com.

[Nomen luni]

Divide and Conquer.
Jesus Christ, we are done for judging by the level of insight on what I thought was an 'intelligent' board. Sui Juris has nailed it. This is exactly the plan, yet you guys are playing to your state programmed tune and cheering for it. The PEOPLE of these states have to stand as one and say "we will not boycott" based on the decisions of crooked politicians. The NWO agenda has always been to create interdependency between individuals, states, institutions and nations, then flex its muscles by manipulating those dependencies.

Your cheering will lead to the destruction of your nation. It's a cliche I know, but "WAKE THE FUCK UP"... that or start practicing your goose step.

[Book]

Your cheering will lead to the destruction of your nation.



That's a good thing here in Idaho...lol.

:D

[sunshine05]

Divide and Conquer.
Jesus Christ, we are done for judging by the level of insight on what I thought was an 'intelligent' board. Sui Juris has nailed it. This is exactly the plan, yet you guys are playing to your state programmed tune and cheering for it. The PEOPLE of these states have to stand as one and say "we will not boycott" based on the decisions of crooked politicians. The NWO agenda has always been to create interdependency between individuals, states, institutions and nations, then flex its muscles by manipulating those dependencies.

Your cheering will lead to the destruction of your nation. It's a cliche I know, but "WAKE THE f*ck UP"... that or start practicing your goose step.


What is your suggestion then? Just sit back and say nothing?

Maybe some states seceding is not necessarily a bad idea.

[Dirty Harry]

Divide and Conquer.
Jesus Christ, we are done for judging by the level of insight on what I thought was an 'intelligent' board. Sui Juris has nailed it. This is exactly the plan, yet you guys are playing to your state programmed tune and cheering for it. The PEOPLE of these states have to stand as one and say "we will not boycott" based on the decisions of crooked politicians. The NWO agenda has always been to create interdependency between individuals, states, institutions and nations, then flex its muscles by manipulating those dependencies.

Your cheering will lead to the destruction of your nation. It's a cliche I know, but "WAKE THE f*ck UP"... that or start practicing your goose step.


Maybe the rest of us are just getting sick and tired of a bunch of liberal socialist do-gooder, commie f*cks telling the us what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is bad. Screw California, and anyone else who thinks Arizona doesn't have the right to secure it's border and it's people.

You want to know what is going to be the fall of this society? It's all the bullshyt political correctness that states like Kommiefornia think they can shove up everyone elses @ss. The"global warming", "diversty", and the rest of the "change" brought about by the PC cops and all their ilk have just about done us in.

[Nomen luni]

I understand the anger at 'Kommifornia', but any action needs to be directed at the individuals making these calls. I'm not saying I have the answers, but these sanctions won't hurt the rich politicos. They will hurt decent American citizens, and they will create divides that make you less able to stand together and fight the visible emergence of the global dictatorship in the USA.

[iOWNme]

Divide and Conquer.

Micro: Pitting citizens against citizens for their own personal beliefs. Everything from nosey bottoms to outright tattle tales. Not realizing if you damn someone for their personal belief, you are damning yourself and your families personal beliefs down the road. Pitting organizations against other organizations for their specific agenda's, etc.

Macro: Pitting States (single nations) against other States (single nations). Not realizing each State is its own autonomous entity, with the right to do what it chooses, as long as it does not infringe on the creator endowed rights of the people. Pitting countries against other countries for religious/political beliefs. Not realizing each country has the right to do as it wishes, without infringing on the rights of its people.


Yest, how does a State or Nation or Country get the Authority/Power/Funding to 'Pit' itself against another ideology? It gets these things from its own people, like a blood sucking tapeworm feeding on its own very existence.


PEACE