Sounds like the NWO is falling apart.

[cigarlover]

Germany going it alone and banning naked short selling. The rest of the EU is like WTF? No consulting with us? LOL. I think the EU will break up eventually.

Thailand has a few problems of their own. Seems like they protect the gov every other year.

US sentiment on illegal immigration is still pretty heated. I dont see any NAU anytime soon and probably not in my lifetime.

Also in the US plenty of encumbants losing the primary so the wind of change is in the air and obviously Americans have had enough of the cronyism in DC.

[Dirty Harry]

That is just because the plug hasn't been pulled yet. When there are starving masses because of collapsed economies, the masses will beg for the NWO to save them. There are still too many people who are self-sufficient enough.

All in due time..all in due time.

Edited for dumb@ss attack.

[Awoke]

..."due" time.


Just sayin.

;)

[Carbon]

Also in the US plenty of encumbants losing the primary so the wind of change is in the air and obviously Americans have had enough of the cronyism in DC.



I bet they even trade in their GMC's and buy Chevy's. Pissed, I tell ya!

Feh. Voting.

[Dirty Harry]

..."due" time.


Just sayin.

;)


:ROFL:

Ha...What a dumb@ss!!
Thanks for "awaken" me up..

[goldleaf]

How dare You have an optimistic attitude!! :o :o ::)

[JDRock]

That is just because the plug hasn't been pulled yet. When there are starving masses because of collapsed economies, the masses will beg for the NWO to save them. There are still too many people who are self-sufficient enough.

All in due time..all in due time.

Edited for dumb@ss attack.


harry got this right.

[Twisted Titan]

This is pure theater.......

If Germany leaves the EURO zone IMF debts will be called due and the pressure will not stop until Germany "returns to the fold" or Merkel is removed from Power

But there will be no independant nations on Eurasia.

T

[Awoke]

Holy shit Harry, don't take things so personal. I was just poking fun.

:-\

[sunshine05]

OP - I hope you are right, I really do. I just think we are a little too late to make a major change and take our country back. Rand Paul's win is big but he still has to win in November and even then, there are only a few liberty conscious people in congress. But it's better than nothing.

I think when our currency collapses they will bring about a NAU money system.

[Dirty Harry]

Holy sh*t Harry, don't take things so personal. I was just poking fun.

:-\



I was dum@ssin myself awoke not you..LOL :whip

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1_5UfSJQaA

[cigarlover]

THis s pure theater.......

If Germany leaves the EURO zone IMF debts will be called due and the pressure will not stop until Germany "returns to the fold" or Merkel is removed from Power

But there will be no independant nations on the Eurasia.

T


Possibly, but Germans aren't happy about working hard and supporting the socialist agenda in other countries. There's also a lot of talk about how any of this money will be paid back by Greece if they get the loans. We also have congress passing the law so IMF money isnt just wasted on Greece so they do expect to be paid back.


That is just because the plug hasn't been pulled yet. When there are starving masses because of collapsed economies, the masses will beg for the NWO to save them. Pretty much what is happening in Greece isnt it? Yet they are dependent on the rest of the EU and even the IMF to bail them out. That is the only hope and even with the bailout, that comes with lots of cuts and conditions. IMO this is negative for the NWO since they cant just write a check and make things all better.

Here in the US we have a slightly different scenario but only because we are the worlds reserve currency.. for now anyway. We can print and dilute the money supply and have been with only slight inflation pressures thus far.. Eventually that comes home to roost though and then what? Who's gonna bail us out? I see the printing presses getting fired up and hyperinflation setting in. Then a total collapse. In that scenario I dont see anyone having control. When peeps are hungry they will do whatever they want to eat. Up until now we have been enslaved by the tax system. The tax system also shifted control of power from the people to the politicians since they dont have to beg us for money anymore. The last obstacle in that was Nixon getting rid of the gold standard so they can print and borrow all they need. This is what has kept them in control up until now. Once this system collapses people are going to wake up fast.

I guess to a lesser extent this is also happening in Thailand. The poor are hungry and the rich are getting richer and the poor are pissed. In comes the riots and buildings are being burned in Bangkok. If the NWO was in charge these people would be fed and appeased and life goes on. Not happening, not now anyway.....


OP - I hope you are right, I really do. I just think we are a little too late to make a major change and take our country back. Rand Paul's win is big but he still has to win in November and even then, there are only a few liberty conscious people in congress. But it's better than nothing.

I think when our currency collapses they will bring about a NAU money system.

If they try that then we will have the same problem here as they do in the EU. I think people here are more aware of that and aren't going to let that happen. Not without a huge fight anyway. Hell they cant even get illegal immigration reform done, there's no way I see them changing the currency and incorporating 2 other countries in our system as well. Our currency will collapse from overspending on wars and socialist agendas. How would we initiate a new currency to include 2 other countries (Mex and Can)? If and when the currency collapses will we institute a new one with the same socialist programs? No way we could without it going directly into hyperinflation again.

IMO a collapse kills the beast and starves it of its power. It also kills the socialist agenda by starving it of the money needed to pay for the socialist programs.

[Dirty Harry]

Pretty much what is happening in Greece isnt it? Yet they are dependent on the rest of the EU and even the IMF to bail them out. That is the only hope and even with the bailout, that comes with lots of cuts and conditions. IMO this is negative for the NWO since they cant just write a check and make things all better.


I disagree. The people in Greece aren't starving yet. They're just pissed off that their gov. freebies are being taken away, and their taxes are going up (sound familiar?). The economy hasn't collapsed yet, far from it.

[Awoke]

Greece is ugly already though, just because of the freebies being taken.

How ugly will they get when the real crunch comes down? That is the question.

[Nomen luni]

The NWO is falling apart, honest. This message was sponsored by KRB, Haliburton, Goldman Sachs, the CRF and the Trilateral Commission. ;D

[Hatha Sunahara]

As long as TPTB control the issue of money, the NWO will live. It may get delayed, but it won't go away.

The NWO is to what we have now as the Catholic Church was to the Roman Empire.

Hatha

[Dirty Harry]

Greece is ugly already though, just because of the freebies being taken.

How ugly will they get when the real crunch comes down? That is the question.

Absolutely, I didn't mean to imply they weren't in deep shyt, just that the shyt is gonna get a hell of a lot deeper when the world economy really collapses.

[Awoke]

No doubt, and most of the people out there don't have 6 months worth of food, water and ammo stashed either!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

The NWO infrastructure is being struck from all sides. Energetically, a lot of people have woken up in the last year. A lot of people are fighting back in a lot of different ways.

The Orgonite gifting project is still going full steam. For every unit they spend $10,000 to find, it costs me $100 to place 100 more.

[Low Pan]

Possibly, but Germans aren't happy about working hard and supporting the socialist agenda in other countries. There's also a lot of talk about how any of this money will be paid back by Greece if they get the loans. We also have congress passing the law so IMF money isnt just wasted on Greece so they do expect to be paid back.

Not to mention Germany's own Deutsche Mark is valued more than the Euro. Germany would get an increase in their economy due to the strength of their own currency almost immediatly upon leaving the EU.

[MetalsMan]

The Orgonite gifting project is still going full steam. For every unit they spend $10,000 to find, it costs me $100 to place 100 more.


WTF is "Orgonite?"

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Orgonite is a home-made devices that devour electric/magnetic frequencies and transmutes them into heat. . We place them near the ubiquitous infrastructure of towers that has been erected since 2001.

The number of towers has increased by roughly 10,000% in the last decade, but my cell reception hasn't even doubled. Some conspiracy theorists on the net have theories about what these towers do, suggesting that they not 100% dedicated to handling cell reception.

Orgonite, the cheap home-made devices, neutralize towers. After gifting a tower, I notice drastically different weather patterns beginning to prevail in an area. To me this makes sense only if a) orgonite really does absorb EMR frequencies and b) towers really do attempt to change atmospheric pressure by broadcasting different frequencies.

Sounds hard to believe, but anecdotal evidence is promising.

[MetalsMan]

Orgonite is a home-made devices that devour electric/magnetic frequencies and transmutes them into heat. . We place them near the ubiquitous infrastructure of towers that has been erected since 2001.

The number of towers has increased by roughly 10,000% in the last decade, but my cell reception hasn't even doubled. Some conspiracy theorists on the net have theories about what these towers do, suggesting that they not 100% dedicated to handling cell reception.

Orgonite, the cheap home-made devices, neutralize towers. After gifting a tower, I notice drastically different weather patterns beginning to prevail in an area. To me this makes sense only if a) orgonite really does absorb EMR frequencies and b) towers really do attempt to change atmospheric pressure by broadcasting different frequencies.

Sounds hard to believe, but anecdotal evidence is promising.


Interesting. I've read about that stuff on the Net before.

That'd be cool if you could use this energy source to heat your house during Winter SHTF. :lol

My local Broadband company plans to erect a tower only about 100 yards from my house.

The electronic radiation concerns me. PISSES ME OFF!!! >:(

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

So many people are dealing with what you're describing these days. The net is awash with stories of companies erecting cell boosters/repeaters right outside somebody's bedroom window! I drove past an apartment building that had the repeaters mounted to the outside wall - so that places it about a foot from somebody's head when they're asleep inside that building.

I've been "orgonizing" my own personal space and it is causing my life to change drastically.

It's better to have no towers at all, but placing orgonite near a tower will mitigate 70-90% of the negative effects of it, as near as I can tell.

I've got several orders out right now to various metal and resin companies. In a few weeks I have plans to mail sets of Orgonite to several GSUS members to experiment with, I'll make a public post about that if you want to get in on that. I also discovered that several other board members make their own orgonite. Overwhelmingly positive feedback from GSUS so far.

[MetalsMan]

In a few weeks I have plans to mail sets of Orgonite to several GSUS members to experiment with, I'll make a public post about that if you want to get in on that.


I have a VERY open mind and would like to investigate further.

Post it! :)

[Book]

I've got several orders out right now to various metal and resin companies. In a few weeks I have plans to mail sets of Orgonite to several GSUS members to experiment with, I'll make a public post about that if you want to get in on that. I also discovered that several other board members make their own orgonite. Overwhelmingly positive feedback from GSUS so far.


TNE: Can you please start a dedicated thread in our Science & Technology section about this Orgonite thingie? Not much available on the internet:


What Else You Should Know

This is not a joke, or a game, or an advertisement. This is not a business opportunity. We don't want your money. Orgonite vendors exist only to serve those who are not able to or interested in making orgonite themselves. Orgonite does not require belief or conscious intention in order to work. This is not a religion, a cult, or a product of disinformation of any kind. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the "newage movement."

We have found that tactical deployment of orgonite (e.g., "gifting") by throwing, hiding or burying it near sources of electromagnetic radiation or other pollution or in polluted areas, such as near cellphone/TV/radio towers, power plants, in lakes, rivers and ocean harbors, has a powerful and noticeable effect on the area. The skies get clearer and return to the deep blue color you remember from your childhood, complete with normal puffy white clouds. Water pollution levels decrease precipitously, as documented in Toronto, Ontario. Drought conditions are reversed, as documented in South Africa and in Death Valley, California. The general mood or "vibe" in the area improves dramatically as people are kinder, happier and more easy-going. Neighbors either become friendlier or suddenly leave town. A renewed sense of hope begins to pervade the community. We have seen this effect in our own communities as a direct result of tactical orgonite gifting, and have found it truly self-empowering, but don't take our word for it. Try it yourself and see what happens!

There are those of us involved with this "gifting movement" who believe that the proliferation of electromagnetic pollution, cellphone towers and chemtrails are not an accident, but are intentional acts of malfeasance by the parties who seek to benefit or profit from inflicting illnesses upon the populace. We don't ask that you believe us, or subscribe to our beliefs. What we do ask is that you help combat the pollution that is wreaking so much harm throughout our communities around the world. We ask you to contribute to the health and well-being of your friends, family and neighbors by following the simple steps outlined on this site, regardless of whether you agree with our personal opinions and convictions. We ask that you follow the instructions here and seek your own personal confirmation of the effectiveness of orgonite.

:)

[Hatha Sunahara]

For people who don't know about Orgonite, here's a good place to start learning.

http://www.whale.to/b/orgonite.html.

I read somewhere that the cell towers can directionally aim Extreme Low Frequency radiation, and three of them can focus waves on individual houses in their range to a degree sufficient to drive the people in the house out of their minds. I also read that broadcasting these frequencies tends to make people more suggestible, so they broadcast them around the time of the evening news. Orgonite somehow intereferes with these frequencies and renders them harmless. I'm not sure if this is science or mythology.

You can find out more here:

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/dearnwo02feb04.shtml


This is the link between the faltering NWO and Orgonite.

Hatha

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I'm with you there, Hatha. Book, the summary you posted is accurate. Yes, I will eventually start a dedicated thread in that section, we already have one in the general section, too.

Orgonite is the cheapest way I have found to fight the NWO.

One thing to be cautious of is some of the material out there is a little crazy sounding. Don Croft, for example, was an important member in the early gifting movement, but his writing comes off like those of an insane person.

So just be aware that there are good sources and bad sources to get your information. Don Croft makes extremely well tuned Orgonite devices, but you have to read through 5 pages of bad spy-novel writing in order to get his plans.

Plenty of other places give the info away for free. I like http://www.warriormatrix.com


Wilhelm Reich, the pioneer of Orgone Energy, stated: "I hope to thoroughly document my findings, otherwise, within two or three generations, people will no doubt begin assigning mythological qualities to the principles I have uncovered."

And that's exactaly what happened. We need more scientists to study Orgonite.

[Bullion_Bob]

It would be unwise to think the players behind the scenes are going to roll over.

[Book]

One thing to be cautious of is some of the material out there is a little crazy sounding. Don Croft, for example, was an important member in the early gifting movement, but his writing comes off like those of an insane person.



http://blog.franciscocosta.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tin-foil-hat.jpg

That is exactly why I ask that you start a dedicated thread in the Science & Technology section.

Help us skeptics sort it all out...lol.

:)

[Horn]

Yeah, just like them to go underground right when the interest level reaches -1%.

Don't worry they'll be back selling it again after the nuclear winter passes.

[Kali]

There was a house and some acreage I wanted to buy but the neighbors had two towers in their yard.

Can they (whoever they is) put these towers where ever they want or do they need permission or to pay for the spot?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Usually the companies must pay. It's no surprise that most cities willingly accept this agreement. In this fashion, you see a lot of towers on public land. The problem here is that the EMR waves do not discriminate at property lines - they come right onto your property and go through your home and body. Your neighbor is probably being paid to have those towers on his property. You can protect your home by gridding it with home made orgonite.

Whenever I see a microwave booster on top of an apartment building - and that's a lot - I think to myself, how sad - sacrificing the health of everyone in the building just to have an extra $1000/month.

this is one of my favorite sites to check out cell towers on:
http://www.antennasearch.com/default.asp

Others:
Canadian Cellular Tower Maps http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/cancellsites.html
Outlaw Automation Inc. Site-Tower Mapping http://www.icscada.ca/map/maps.html
http://www.findcellsites.com/find.shtml
http://www.mapcruzin.com/google-earth-maps-resources/google-earth-cell -towers.htm



Be prepared to be *shocked* when you put your zipcode in. I had over 500 towers within 5 miles of me.

It's been a lot of effort to get all those towers gifted. I have also been reading about some very promising orgonite modifications from Sensei Dennis, including the use of nano-metals to increase device surface area, and the use of powered frequency generators to modify the output of the devices. This would be the advanced side of things.

[MetalsMan]

this is one of my favorite sites to check out cell towers on:
http://www.antennasearch.com/default.asp



WHOAH!!! They're EVERYWHERE in the my city.

One near me is owned by "Hexagram Inc." out of Ohio. NICE. :o

The church behind my house wants to put one up.

There's a "Land Use Action" where you can protest.

Does protesting or legal action work? :conf:

[vacuum]

this is one of my favorite sites to check out cell towers on:
http://www.antennasearch.com/default.asp

2 towers and 17 antennas in a 4 mile radius of me

;D

edit: how do you change the radius that is searched?

[MetalsMan]

Update:

They're almost done building the "Cell Tower" that's about 100 yards from my house. :o

I don't want that electronic sh*t zapping me every day. >:(

What do I do?

[Bullfrog]

What you need... are some gophers. Lots and lots of em.

Then some dark night, you take the gophers over and release them by one of the tower legs. The gophers tunnel, the tower falls over... problem solved.

[the white rabbit]

G20 to take separate routes to secure recovery http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/canada_us_g20

[FunnyMoney]

It would be unwise to think the players behind the scenes are going to roll over.

[Kali]

this is one of my favorite sites to check out cell towers on:
http://www.antennasearch.com/default.asp

Others:
Canadian Cellular Tower Maps http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/cancellsites.html
Outlaw Automation Inc. Site-Tower Mapping http://www.icscada.ca/map/maps.html
http://www.findcellsites.com/find.shtml
http://www.mapcruzin.com/google-earth-maps-resources/google-earth-cell -towers.htm



Be prepared to be *shocked* when you put your zipcode in. I had over 500 towers within 5 miles of me.


I didnt see your post til now...missed it.

Did a search and WOW...39 towers and 159 antennas within 4 miles.

I never knew there were this many...crazy shit!

[StackerKen]

only 8 towers in the 4 mile radius of my location.

All in the same spot. Mountain top

No apps for new ones

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

StackerKen, if I send you some Orgonite in the mail, will you hike up to those towers and bury it near them? No tresspassing, within 100 yards of towers is close enough, 1 hockey puck per tower should do it.


I remember my promise to post plans and send out devices to everybody. I have resin and metal powder in my possession, just looking for some shavings and I'll start pouring.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Update:

They're almost done building the "Cell Tower" that's about 100 yards from my house. :o

I don't want that electronic sh*t zapping me every day. >:(

What do I do?



Close proximity is TOUGH, orgonite mitigates the effects of towers greatly but there is still a danger zone close to the the tower. There is a product called a "Zap Checker" that lets you read ambient EMF energy.

This isn't the one we use but it's similar: http://www.danaco.net/images/zap185.jpg

[StackerKen]

StackerKen, if I send you some Orgonite in the mail, will you hike up to those towers and bury it near them? No tresspassing, within 100 yards of towers is close enough, 1 hockey puck per tower should do it.


I remember my promise to post plans and send out devices to everybody. I have resin and metal powder in my possession, just looking for some shavings and I'll start pouring.


That would be quite a hike....Let me do some checking(for roads and such)...and I will get back to you.