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General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 07:13 PM
I'm just thinking about this rationally. Racially and religiously, we as human beings can't live together unless we're alike and even then it's a pain in the back side. History and the Roman Empire shows us this.

I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start.

I am me, I am free
20th May 2010, 07:21 PM
Not to worry, those who know best for us all are working very hard on making us all very much alike.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1993/1101931118_400.jpg

Ponce
20th May 2010, 07:36 PM
Glad to be leaving this world in order not to see the mess that I am leaving behind.

cigarlover
20th May 2010, 08:05 PM
Either that or we can just send all the racists to one island someplace.

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 08:19 PM
Either that or we can just send all the racists to one island someplace.


So you're a believer in multiculturalism? Assuming you do, PLEASE show me it's successes.

cedarchopper
20th May 2010, 08:20 PM
Utopian dumb ass drivel...nothing personal.

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 08:24 PM
Utopian dumb ass drivel...nothing personal.



How so? FYI - I don't take comments over the internet personal.

cedarchopper
20th May 2010, 08:27 PM
Utopian dumb ass drivel...nothing personal.



How so? FYI - I don't take comments over the internet personal.


I'm glad, because it wasn't personal. Everything is a trade off.

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 08:30 PM
Utopian dumb ass drivel...nothing personal.



How so? FYI - I don't take comments over the internet personal.


I'm glad, because it wasn't personal. Everything is a trade off.


You make a statement, I ask your WHY, pretty easy question and you say nothing. Just explain your position, I'm interested.

cedarchopper
20th May 2010, 08:33 PM
Utopian dumb ass drivel...nothing personal.



How so? FYI - I don't take comments over the internet personal.


How can there be a serious discussion when this is your premise?" I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start."

I'm glad, because it wasn't personal. Everything is a trade off.


You make a statement, I ask your WHY, pretty easy question and you say nothing. Just explain your position, I'm interested.


Sorry for the quoting jumble:

How can there be a serious discussion when this is your premise?" I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start."

FunnyMoney
20th May 2010, 08:44 PM
Until there is complete rejection of taxes and fiat money the world will not have peace.

The logistics and funding of wars are far beyond the ability of simple consensus building. End the fiat, dishonest, centralized tax based systems of the world and it will be next to impossible to have anything but peace, regardless who lives next to who.

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 08:44 PM
How can there be a serious discussion when this is your premise?" I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start."


Well I recall operation wetback, that worked at the time. So do you really think it would IMPOSSIBLE for segregation on a global level?

Horn
20th May 2010, 08:45 PM
I'm just thinking about this rationally. Racially and religiously, we as human beings can't live together unless we're alike and even then it's a pain in the back side. History and the Roman Empire shows us this.

I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start.


They say people are the same wherever you go.

True, but of the ones I've come to know No two are exactly the same, or even alike.

Segregated.

Horn
20th May 2010, 08:50 PM
Glad to be leaving this world in order not to see the mess that I am leaving behind.


Ha, I thought you said your bloodlines live until 100, or more?

You're stuck here with me, Babalu...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAV3bOJaQuY

VX1
20th May 2010, 09:00 PM
I'm just thinking about this rationally. Racially and religiously, we as human beings can't live together unless we're alike and even then it's a pain in the back side. History and the Roman Empire shows us this.

I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start.


Oh man, would I miss the Spanish women... caliente!!!

cigarlover
20th May 2010, 09:05 PM
Either that or we can just send all the racists to one island someplace.


So you're a believer in multiculturalism? Assuming you do, PLEASE show me it's successes.


Racially and religuosly we can live together fine. Is that the same as muticulturalism?

I lived in Europe for 2 years and that seemed pretty good to me. Here in America we lived together as different races for many generations. We also had and have many different religions. Seems to work just fine.

The main problem I see in America is there is no culture. No history. What is an American? Pilgrims? Native indians? If we went to our separate corners who would stay in the US? How far back in History do we go?

In the Philippines we have how many different religions? Probably same as in the US. I cant even tell you how many but I dont see religious wars breaking out in either country. End racisim and you end the strife that comes from it. Not just blacks or whites but all of it. I will also add, of all the countries I have been to the US is the only one that plays the racism card every chance they get.

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 09:10 PM
VX1 that's some standard B.S., I'm going to miss this woman etc. Like YOU were with this women. Don't worry, the internet will still be around, you'll be able to have your love affair in front of your computer. Or do you get paid to rub one out infront of you comp? BTW she's half Lebanese.

Gaillo
20th May 2010, 09:13 PM
VX1 that's some standard B.S., I'm going to miss this woman etc. Like YOU were with this women. Don't worry, the internet will still be around, you'll be able to have your love affair in front of your computer. Or do you get paid to rub one out infront of you comp? BTW she's half Lebanese.


General of Darkness... consider yourself warned. That post was VERY close to the type of condescending personal attack that gets one banned around here.

VX1
20th May 2010, 09:16 PM
VX1 that's some standard B.S., I'm going to miss this woman etc. Like YOU were with this women. Don't worry, the internet will still be around, you'll be able to have your love affair in front of your computer. Or do you get paid to rub one out infront of you comp? BTW she's half Lebanese.


General of Darkness... consider yourself warned. That post was VERY close to the type of condescending personal attack that gets one banned around here.

Exactly... come on GoD, you're a good guy around here... there's no need for that. No one here has any idea what left field that one came out of. My wife is Spanish, and looks like Salma, so it's just a look I happen to be fond of (and I'm by no means alone on that).

I'm sorry I bumped your stupid thread with a fine woman.
...and I'll go ahead and respond to what you wrote below this, so I don't bump this thread... "khazar tactic", of brother, you've lost it. Again, another wild swing. You've only managed to insult another good freedom fighter tonight. Whose side are you on? Don't answer.

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 09:17 PM
VX1 that's some standard B.S., I'm going to miss this woman etc. Like YOU were with this women. Don't worry, the internet will still be around, you'll be able to have your love affair in front of your computer. Or do you get paid to rub one out infront of you comp? BTW she's half Lebanese.


General of Darkness... consider yourself warned. That post was VERY close to the type of condescending personal attack that gets one banned around here.


Thanks for the warning. But just to be clear, B.S. comments just annoy the crap out of me. It's a khazar tactic.

cedarchopper
20th May 2010, 09:25 PM
Would you not say, darkness, that you are just venting your personal frustration? There are no easy answers, even though that is what you are proposing?

We live in an infinite universe and you can't condense everything down to one pill everybody can swallow.

Fix yourself, and see what happens?

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 09:25 PM
Exactly... come on GoD, you're a good guy around here... there's no need for that. No one here has any idea what left field that one came out of. My wife is Spanish, and looks like Salma, so it's just a look I happen to be fond of (and I'm by no means alone on that).


You and I know that your post has absolutely NO correlation with the OP. Your post only gives me the "assumption" that you're trying to derail it, because it's not what YOU want or, in YOUR interest. Let me be clear, WHAT IS IN YOUR INTEREST?

Horn
20th May 2010, 09:27 PM
Just so long as you group the D's all together away from the C-sized.

Makes it easier for me to hook up my terminal to.

Libertarian_Guard
20th May 2010, 09:34 PM
General of Darkness

For-get-about-it!

Going back is impossible.

Neither you, nor I, nor society can go backwards.

I say, just based on the war of terror (as Borat called it) let's stop the Muslim immigration problem. Lets give the ones we can't deport 100 years to assimilate.

But as someone else said, everyone can't just go back into their corners. What corners? There would still be infighting, as a standard could never be set.

What we need are libertarian minded, socially responsible people. All the other stuff is B.S. - - I don't care where in the world my neighbors ancestral heritage came from.

ximmy
20th May 2010, 09:37 PM
I've traveled a little bit and seen most of the racism and racial ignorance in small towns, America, Europe, some Middle East.

In every large metro city I've been in, LA, NY, Paris, Jerusalem, Chicago, etc. the racial diversity and liberality of the populace is overwhelmingly positive.

In metropolitan areas no one cares what you look like,
in the smaller towns, you are judged according to looks.

so I think ignorance for cultural diversity plays a large part in racism.

VX1
20th May 2010, 09:40 PM
Exactly... come on GoD, you're a good guy around here... there's no need for that. No one here has any idea what left field that one came out of. My wife is Spanish, and looks like Salma, so it's just a look I happen to be fond of (and I'm by no means alone on that).


You and I know that your post has absolutely NO correlation with the OP. Your post only gives me the "assumption" that you're trying to derail it, because it's not what YOU want or, in YOUR interest. Let me be clear, WHAT IS IN YOUR INTEREST?

Your message, the OP, said that all races should separate (for 100 years). My post said, OK, but I would miss the Spanish women. Completely relevant to the post, but also just a lighthearted comment. I would say a joke, but it's not a joke, because I would miss Spanish women, because I mentioned, my wife is of that sort. This is one of those situations where if you just pause and think about it, you'd probably conclude I'm not your enemy. My interests are sound money, freedom, monkeywrenching the push for global government, ending corrupt corporate banking influences in the governement and media, and Spanish women :)

mick silver
20th May 2010, 09:42 PM
even if we had nwo control we would not have peace .... the power need a way to control people and it away to thin the herd

General of Darkness
20th May 2010, 09:44 PM
I've traveled a little bit and seen most of the racism and racial ignorance in small towns, America, Europe, some Middle East.

In every large metro city I've been in, LA, NY, Paris, Jerusalem, Chicago, etc. the racial diversity and liberality of the populace is overwhelmingly positive.

In metropolitan areas no one cares what you look like,
in the smaller towns, you are judged according to looks.

so I think ignorance for cultural diversity plays a large part in racism.


Bullshit. You say you live in L.A., go to Compton at night, North Hollywood, or any other place that the majority is the minority and see what happens to you?

Horn
20th May 2010, 09:52 PM
Bullsh*t. You say you live in L.A., go to Compton at night, North Hollywood, or any other place that the majority is the minority and see what happens to you?

Sounds like somebodies been caught doing the Rhumba...hmmm?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhjgi0RsUJc

StackerKen
20th May 2010, 11:26 PM
face it....

there is No only one hope for this world.

goldmonkey
21st May 2010, 01:54 AM
In Praise of Homogeneity
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/01/in_praise_of_ho.php

Quantum
21st May 2010, 02:14 AM
I've traveled a little bit and seen most of the racism and racial ignorance in small towns, America, Europe, some Middle East.

In every large metro city I've been in, LA, NY, Paris, Jerusalem, Chicago, etc. the racial diversity and liberality of the populace is overwhelmingly positive.

In metropolitan areas no one cares what you look like,
in the smaller towns, you are judged according to looks.

so I think ignorance for cultural diversity plays a large part in racism.


In the cities, "no one cares what you look like" since cities stand for nothing of eternal value.

All cities are hell-holes, which are bastions of anti-culture. All of the systematic wickedness in this world has set up shop first in cities.

I agree that race-mixing is a product of the cities.

The countryside, despite the devilish propaganda of the cities in the form of "education" and mass media, has always been the foundation of life. The countryside feeds the population, the countryside supplies the next generation, the countryside is the engine of real culture, that enables a society to continue in perpetuity.

The cities are the way of death. The small town is the way of life. Hence, the latter will be "conservative" in outlook, rejecting race-mixing, homosexuality, pacifism, New Age garbage, degenerate "art" and "music," and the concrete & steel mechanism that destroys organic living.

Heavyweight
21st May 2010, 02:30 AM
Either that or we can just send all the racists to one island someplace.


So you're a believer in multiculturalism? Assuming you do, PLEASE show me it's successes.
The United States. We continue to be wealthier and generally more peaceful than most other nations.

Compare the US and Russia.
The US is heterogeneous, Russia is generally homogeneous.

The US is wealthier, Russia is poorer.

The US has a more diverse economy while Russia is largely dependent on oil and gas. Hence, the US is less vulnerable to economic shocks.

The US has a lower homocide rate 5.4 per 100,000, Russia has a higher homocide rate 14.9 per 100,000.

I'd rather live in America.

Grand Master Melon
21st May 2010, 03:32 AM
How can there be a serious discussion when this is your premise?" I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start."


Well I recall operation wetback, that worked at the time. So do you really think it would IMPOSSIBLE for segregation on a global level?
?

Seriously?

You must have been looking for an excuse to say wetback or something. I'm dying to know how operation wetback can even be compared to your idea.

Ash_Williams
21st May 2010, 07:26 AM
Humans will never have peace.
Even if everyone was the same race and religion the urge to assert individuality will prevail and some will hate others.

Before we ever showed up the natives fought each other routinely, even groups with the same language. That's what humans do. All this space, with a fraction of the population, and no racial or religious differences, and they still fought.

It's in our genes. Fight to survive. Fight to reproduce. Fight just because the beast is inside us.

I supposed it could bred out of us and we'd all be sissies and then we could have peace... not really a good option in my opinion though.

FunnyMoney
25th May 2010, 07:41 AM
Humans will never have peace.
...It's in our genes. Fight to survive. Fight to reproduce. Fight ....

The inability to link root causes to produced symptoms is a typical attribute within the matrix. The majority of this thread is living proof of that.

You take away the taxes and the dishonest (stealth tax) fiat money and you would find in very short order how amzingly short a war or any fight becomes. The logistics and raw costs required to sustain a fight, any fight, are far beyond the reach of collective consensus building only. Take away TPTB, the IRS, the fiat CBs of the world and you will see peace break out at all levels.

jedemdasseine
25th May 2010, 07:48 AM
Miscegenation is inevitable to some degree, but the degree we see it in today's world is not natural or organic.

Diversity is a weapon.

I love different cultures, traveling, seeing different peoples and races, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my race and culture be decimated.

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 08:42 AM
Miscegenation is inevitable to some degree, but the degree we see it in today's world is not natural or organic.

Diversity is a weapon.

I love different cultures, traveling, seeing different peoples and races, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my race and culture be decimated.


With the exception of very isolated communities, different peoples or races have been breeding together for thousands of years. Just that it happened on such a slower pace, that countries seemed to forever be homogeneous. But that was seldom ever the case. Nearly every time a ship pulled into port a baby was made. But today we have airports that bring in many times more people, so the same process is moving much faster.

As is often the case, when you think back to the 'good old days' things weren't quite as good as they really were.

jedemdasseine
25th May 2010, 08:49 AM
Miscegenation is inevitable to some degree, but the degree we see it in today's world is not natural or organic.

Diversity is a weapon.

I love different cultures, traveling, seeing different peoples and races, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my race and culture be decimated.


With the exception of very isolated communities, different peoples or races have been breeding together for thousands of years. Just that it happened on such a slower pace, that countries seemed to forever be homogeneous. But that was seldom ever the case. Nearly every time a ship pulled into port a baby was made. But today we have airports that bring in many times more people, so the same process is moving much faster.

As is often the case, when you think back to the 'good old days' things weren't quite as good as they really were.


Yeah yeah yeah, that's all obvious.

And you're absolutely correct that the "good old days" is an idyllic fantasy.

But we all see the diversity agenda.

And who funds it.

"Baa baa rainbow sheep...."

jedemdasseine
25th May 2010, 08:55 AM
Global Segregation is a pipe dream.

But so is a the idea that all races can live in harmony.

jedemdasseine
25th May 2010, 08:57 AM
One thing I've learned though, is that carrying oneself with good humor goes a long way with all peoples.

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 09:04 AM
One thing I've learned though, is that carrying oneself with good humor goes a long way with all peoples.


With only a smile and some folding fiat, you could travel nearly anywhere in the world trouble free.

sirgonzo420
25th May 2010, 09:06 AM
Miscegenation is inevitable to some degree, but the degree we see it in today's world is not natural or organic.

Diversity is a weapon.

I love different cultures, traveling, seeing different peoples and races, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my race and culture be decimated.


Hear, hear!

I may disagree with the so-called "racists" on this board in that I don't subscribe to National Socialism, but David Lane had it right when he said:


We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

rurounikitsune
25th May 2010, 09:47 AM
God separated the world into seventy nations at Babylon.

Attempts to reunify the world are all really attempts to rebuild the ancient Babylonian Empire, the one created by Nimrod.

The purpose of dividing mankind was to keep them from achieving their full potential (for evil).

To that end I encourage peoples to remain separate.

But, who reads Genesis anymore?

sirgonzo420
25th May 2010, 09:54 AM
God separated the world into seventy nations at Babylon.

Attempts to reunify the world are all really attempts to rebuild the ancient Babylonian Empire, the one created by Nimrod.

The purpose of dividing mankind was to keep them from achieving their full potential (for evil).

To that end I encourage peoples to remain separate.

But, who reads Genesis anymore?


I think you should 'flip-ahead'... we appear to be in Revelations now!

UFM
25th May 2010, 09:57 AM
all blacks back to africa asians to asia indians to india whites everywher else.

greenbear
25th May 2010, 04:05 PM
all blacks back to africa asians to asia indians to india whites everywher else.


What do you propose for people of mixed descent? Should there be new nations created based upon percentages, if we could even know them?

Edit: Do we seize peoples property and give it to others as we deport them to their respective racially-based nation? That's especially difficult for a country like America which is a state rather than a nation based on historic ethnicity.

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 04:37 PM
General of Darkness

Have you, or will you consider tossing in towel, and closing this thread?

Your position (just to be very kind) is weak here.

greenbear
25th May 2010, 04:44 PM
With all due respect, I don't see the purpose in appealing for a thread to be closed. What if someone has something left to say?

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 05:01 PM
With all due respect, I don't see the purpose in appealing for a thread to be closed. What if someone has something left to say?


There is always something else to say, I'm not calling for the internet to be shut down, but unless you or someone else can add something to prove the premise of this thread, what is the point?

sirgonzo420
25th May 2010, 05:05 PM
With all due respect, I don't see the purpose in appealing for a thread to be closed. What if someone has something left to say?


There is always something else to say, I'm not calling for the internet to be shut down, but unless you or someone else can add something to prove the premise of this thread, what is the point?


Why does there have to be a point?

greenbear
25th May 2010, 05:11 PM
With all due respect, I don't see the purpose in appealing for a thread to be closed. What if someone has something left to say?


There is always something else to say, I'm not calling for the internet to be shut down, but unless you or someone else can add something to prove the premise of this thread, what is the point?

No one has suggested that you are calling for the internet to be closed down. Just this thread. The purpose of a thread is to discuss a topic. I added my probably worthless two cents worth. Why deprive someone else of the opportunity to add more valuable comments? Of course, that's up to the General. Maybe they won't because it's all played out. I dunno. :)

StackerKen
25th May 2010, 05:17 PM
it is kind of ridiculous though.....

"complete Global Segregation" ?

never gonna happen

goldmonkey
25th May 2010, 05:26 PM
General of Darkness

Have you, or will you consider tossing in towel, and closing this thread?

Your position (just to be very kind) is weak here.


Please explain your support of the ongoing White Genocide.


'The Race War Of Black Against White' by Paul Sheehan
http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm

The Sydney Morning Herald , Australia, 20 May 1995

The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War. It determined the result of last year's congressional election.

Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which remains between the lines and unreported. In fact, to even suggest that the war exists is to be discredited. So let's start suggesting, immediately.

No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.

And the problem is getting worse, not better. In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster than the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America:

• According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.

• Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims", published in 1993.

• Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

• Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

• According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960's, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil rights movement.

Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.

When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II.

All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard.

1970 Silver Art
25th May 2010, 05:34 PM
it is kind of ridiculous though.....

"complete Global Segregation" ?

never gonna happen


Yep I agree with that Stacker. That will never happen. Complete Global Segregation is nothing but a dream for some people but it is not reality and it will never be.

ximmy
25th May 2010, 05:37 PM
One things for sure... people of the same race don't kill each other :o

Horn
25th May 2010, 05:53 PM
it is kind of ridiculous though.....


I find myself passing up many chances to post on 50% of the threads, due to this.

greenbear
25th May 2010, 05:53 PM
One things for sure... people of the same race don't kill each other :o


Well, they do if they are segregated from other races. People can only kill those who are within reach.

General of Darkness
25th May 2010, 05:58 PM
Enjoy.

http://vodpod.com/watch/2270120-the-mass-rape-of-white-women-in-america

greenbear
25th May 2010, 06:04 PM
Enjoy.

http://vodpod.com/watch/2270120-the-mass-rape-of-white-women-in-america


General, I haven't listened to your interview yet but I will. I admire the interview style (letting the guest actually tell their story without constant interruption), and the stories are real and they matter. I guess I'll stop talking until I listen. :)

Edit: Oh, maybe it's not your show? It's still loading, maybe it'll never load.

1970 Silver Art
25th May 2010, 06:14 PM
Enjoy.

http://vodpod.com/watch/2270120-the-mass-rape-of-white-women-in-america


General, I haven't listened to your interview yet but I will. I admire the interview style (letting the guest actually tell their story without constant interruption), and the stories are real and they matter. I guess I'll stop talking until I listen. :)

Edit: Oh, maybe it's not your show? It's still loading, maybe it'll never load.


I would close the window with the video in it and click on the link again. That worked for me because the video ran once I clicked on the link a second time.

EDIT: There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

TPTB
25th May 2010, 07:10 PM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)

FunnyMoney
25th May 2010, 07:19 PM
Global Segregation is a pipe dream.

But so is a the idea that all races can live in harmony.




Of course, harmony is a tall order, even within the same race. Race really matters not, individual responsibility does.

But the lack of harmony does not always end up in a big fight, especially not in a sustained high tech industrialized war.

The costs required to sustain a fight, especially today's modern wars are far far beyond the trivial. Leaders create and start wars, as well as collect the funds to sustain them. Most people are too lazy and too willing to simply take neutral or defensive postures to sustain war without central authorities taking the primary instigation and organization roles.

I can assure you, and everyone on this forum with 100% certainty that if you remove the tax/fiat base, you will get very long and sustained periods of peace. Leaders go to war, construct and sustain them; everyone else sits around waiting for orders.

greenbear
25th May 2010, 07:19 PM
There is no denying the statistics. Of course we all know that the occasional serial killer is generally white, and that convicted rapists are overwhelmingly black. Many, many white unconvicted "soft" rapists, though. What is the solution? Lynchings of either guilty or innocent black men outside of the law?

The key point is that this was orchestrated by the globalist elites. As with the Arab Muslims, these globalist conspirators use an existing racial and religious propensity to accomplish their purposes. I'm not sure that you are aware of the condition of the black population in the US in the 1950's and 1960's, and before the Civil Rights movement, that turned into something else entirely, as it was meant to do. Blacks were truly integrating, beginning to become a part of the social and economic fabric of this nation. This was not the globalist Illuminati plan, so they intervened. They set up a system that rewarded blacks for not contributing to society, but to be pariahs. It happened over generations until we find ourselves where we are today. Why do you think the local news channel never reveals the race of a suspect of a crime if he is black? It is a part of the globalist conspiracy. I have a few black families in my neighborhood and the parents are great. What I worry about, for good reason, is their kids. They are going to public schools, they are being corrupted, and they have a very high chance of going really bad. The white teenage girls in the neighborhood have taken on the black Rap swill, they act all ghetto black, and they destroy their own innocence. This is planned and orchestrated from above. It is just a part of the manipulation of society, and it has a desired outcome.

I have known many black people in my life. My husband and I have a few black friends presently. One of them I would describe as one of the people closest to him. My husband respects him as being of at least the same level of intelligence as him. I've known many, many black people in my life. I've met quite a few that I admire. There is a store I go into from time to time for bargains that is in a ghetto area. Just about every single time I've gone in there I am the only white person in the store. Maybe it's just me, but there are always black women who go out of their way to try to make me feel comfortable and secure. Believe me, any hoodlums in the store cower at a tongue-lashing from one of those ladies. I've always felt very protected there. I think it's because they can tell that I view them as just people and that I don't judge them.

They are just people. With strengths, and with weaknesses, just like us. There is definitely something that happened since the dispersion of the nations that has affected black peoples adversely, but they are human beings, just like you and me, i don't know what it was and I am in no position to judge, and I have no knowledge of what it was. The beautiful thing about the Gospel is that none of these things matter. Jesus came to save the lost. I have known some incredibly strong black Christians, better than me by far. You absolutely have to judge on an individual basis.

I do not mean to come off condescendingly to you at all, general. But you are 23 and I am 50. I've had many years to consider these things. I am not ignorant as you may suppose. And I am not a Judiazer, or a Zionist Christian. I am a King James Bible believing Christian. It is so important to keep an open mind about things.

This whole race issue is nothing more than conquer and divide. No man is your enemy.

General of Darkness
25th May 2010, 07:21 PM
Who the heck told you I was 23?

greenbear
25th May 2010, 07:25 PM
Who the heck told you I was 23?

I thought you did, but that may be my 50 year old brain failing me yet again. :)

StackerKen
25th May 2010, 07:25 PM
Well said GreenBear! :)

ie Reply #63

1970 Silver Art
25th May 2010, 07:25 PM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)




People manipulate statistics to achieve whatever agenda they wish to achieve. Statistics is like a lump of clay in that it can be molded into anything that you want. However, no matter how the crime statistics might be manipulated, the crime rate among black people is still higher than whites. There are similar crime statistics that show that the crime rate among black people is higher than with white people. I wish that was not true but unfortunately, it is true.

greenbear
25th May 2010, 07:31 PM
Well said GreenBear! :)

ie Reply #63


Thanks Ken. Just a little pouring out of my heart, lol.

StackerKen
25th May 2010, 07:33 PM
Well said GreenBear! :)

ie Reply #63


Thanks Ken. Just a little pouring out of my heart, lol.


You Have a Beautiful Heart Sister :)

sirgonzo420
25th May 2010, 07:39 PM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)




That being said, would you rather walk through a predominately white neighborhood at 3:00am or a predominately black one?

TPTB
25th May 2010, 09:58 PM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)




That being said, would you rather walk through a predominately white neighborhood at 3:00am or a predominately black one?


This question gets asked all the damn time. My response isn't really aimed at you though, sirgonzo. Just a mini rant in general.

I once lived in a shack on Mercy Drive in Pine Hills Florida in which I was the only white on the entire road. I never had a single issue. No one robbed me or hassled me at all. Now that's not much of a claim to fame, but if any of you are familiar with Orlando, you might recognize Pine Hills as a rather notorious suburban hood.

On the other hand I got beat up and robbed by three red necks at a gas station near my parents white neighborhood ostensibly because I had long hair and deserved it( I had a bumper sticker with a peace symbol). 1968

And once I was thrown into the back of a Deputies squad car with a black friend for protesting the Nam war in a small town, driven out to an outlying orange grove where the two of us were beaten by the cops. They beat me in the ribs and midsection. My friend got it in the face. Before they left us laying there in the sand, one of the cops told me I better not tell my Daddy about the beating or they would take care of him for sure. 1970

In those days White boys didn't associate with Black boys. It was considered to be a bad influence on the agricultural labor force.

Rape? You talk about rape? My wife was raped by her Pentecostal Christian Daddy a couple times a week from the time she was 10 until he left with the only car and all the money two years later when she was 12.

Admittedly those things occurred many years ago and times have changed, but consider this. If I were to be found wandering around at 3am as a stranger in a white neighborhood these days, odds are the cops would be there to assist me in no time at all....with a f**king taser...

Crime statistics have been used as propaganda for the past 50 years to build up the American Fascist Prison System. Crime "conviction" statistics are the key in the false nature of these statistics. It took many years to build up a significant population of Black male ex-cons who have a revolving door relationship with Prison. Many of these convicts were raised in prison.

The Black criminal culture was created by the prison Industry, and by the FBI with their crime statistics. They used it like a false flag to render the middle class impotent with fear, to turn suburban whitey into little effeminate Nancy boys scared to death of the giant negro rapist and to build a huge government socialist dependency trap. It's about time you people woke up to this too.

It worked like a charm too... and has you boys still wetting your little girl under panties.

I'd dread to see any of you waycists walk through a Black neighborhood. The fear would be so thick little old church ladies would have to stop singing, come out of Church and beat the crap out of you. And they could too. They'd beat you down with their little plastic purses. :D

Sorry, I have to go to bed.... I'm sure to receive a mighty pounding of smites for this post. Have at it, girls. ;D

Veni, vidi...evigilavi!
25th May 2010, 10:02 PM
God separated the world into seventy nations at Babylon.

Attempts to reunify the world are all really attempts to rebuild the ancient Babylonian Empire, the one created by Nimrod.

The purpose of dividing mankind was to keep them from achieving their full potential (for evil).

How do you know GOD didn't intend the opposite? Maybe he wanted everyone to create their customs/cultures so that in the future we could share our ideas and knowledge, but instead people created wars and went against his word... that is evil.

greenbear
25th May 2010, 10:35 PM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)




That being said, would you rather walk through a predominately white neighborhood at 3:00am or a predominately black one?


This question gets asked all the damn time. My response isn't really aimed at you though, sirgonzo. Just a mini rant in general.

I once lived in a shack on Mercy Drive in Pine Hills Florida in which I was the only white on the entire road. I never had a single issue. No one robbed me or hassled me at all. Now that's not much of a claim to fame, but if any of you are familiar with Orlando, you might recognize Pine Hills as a rather notorious suburban hood.

On the other hand I got beat up and robbed by three red necks at a gas station near my parents white neighborhood ostensibly because I had long hair and deserved it( I had a bumper sticker with a peace symbol). 1968

And once I was thrown into the back of a Deputies squad car with a black friend for protesting the Nam war in a small town, driven out to an outlying orange grove where the two of us were beaten by the cops. They beat me in the ribs and midsection. My friend got it in the face. Before they left us laying there in the sand, one of the cops told me I better not tell my Daddy about the beating or they would take care of him for sure. 1970

In those days White boys didn't associate with Black boys. It was considered to be a bad influence on the agricultural labor force.

Rape? You talk about rape? My wife was raped by her Pentecostal Christian Daddy a couple times a week from the time she was 10 until he left with the only car and all the money two years later when she was 12.

Admittedly those things occurred many years ago and times have changed, but consider this. If I were to be found wandering around at 3am as a stranger in a white neighborhood these days, odds are the cops would be there to assist me in no time at all....with a f**king taser...

Crime statistics have been used as propaganda for the past 50 years to build up the American Fascist Prison System. Crime "conviction" statistics are the key in the false nature of these statistics. It took many years to build up a significant population of Black male ex-cons who have a revolving door relationship with Prison. Many of these convicts were raised in prison.

The Black criminal culture was created by the prison Industry, and by the FBI with their crime statistics. They used it like a false flag to render the middle class impotent with fear, to turn suburban whitey into little effeminate Nancy boys scared to death of the giant negro rapist and to build a huge government socialist dependency trap. It's about time you people woke up to this too.

It worked like a charm too... and has you boys still wetting your little girl under panties.

I'd dread to see any of you waycists walk through a Black neighborhood. The fear would be so thick little old church ladies would have to stop singing, come out of Church and beat the crap out of you. And they could too. They'd beat you down with their little plastic purses. :D

Sorry, I have to go to bed.... I'm sure to receive a mighty pounding of smites for this post. Have at it, girls. ;D





Two things I don't agree with:
1) black male youths have a much higher rate of death or incarceration because a large percentage of them don't have daddies to whip the snot out of them. This is all a part of the planned destruction of black American culture, but it also carries over to white American culture. I don't know if what you say about the statistics are true or not. I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

2) Those little old church ladies would be more likely to beat the stuffing out of anyone attacking whitey.


I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend. In the same way that pedophiles gravitate towards vocations that bring them in contact with little kids, sick predators who want power over other people often seek out positions of authority, including becoming a priest or a pastor.

I appreciate you relating your experiences.

UFM
26th May 2010, 02:18 AM
all blacks back to africa asians to asia indians to india whites everywher else.


What do you propose for people of mixed descent? Should there be new nations created based upon percentages, if we could even know them?

Edit: Do we seize peoples property and give it to others as we deport them to their respective racially-based nation? That's especially difficult for a country like America which is a state rather than a nation based on historic ethnicity.


get rid of them. whatever your majority ethnicity thats what you are. if you are 51% negro off to africa you go. they can sort you out by tribe when you get there.

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 02:53 AM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)




I agree with this

Mayors, Police Chiefs, etc all "under report" crime
so they can say "see what a good job we are doing"

TomLandrysHat
26th May 2010, 02:57 AM
There were some good points that were made in the video especially when it came to the crime statistics. The crime statistics do not lie.

Silver Art,
I'd like to make one small point about crime statistics. Oh yes they do too lie. They lie their asses off. I'd bet crime statistics are statistically the biggest liars of all the various types of statistics because Crime statistics are compiled by the Prison Industry in conjunction with the FBI. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any federal organization more likely to lie to the public than the FBI, with a few exceptions, such as the CIA, NSA, Mossad, the Administration, Federal Reserve Banks, Wall St. Marketing Firms, etc., etc.... 8)




I agree with this

Mayors, Police Chiefs, etc all "under report" crime
so they can say "see what a good job we are doing"




This happens a lot. They often also 'over report' crime to get more funding from time to time.

rurounikitsune
26th May 2010, 06:25 AM
How do you know GOD didn't intend the opposite? Maybe he wanted everyone to create their customs/cultures so that in the future we could share our ideas and knowledge, but instead people created wars and went against his word... that is evil.


Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

We were separated in order to weaken us.

k-os
26th May 2010, 06:58 AM
TPTB, thanks for sharing your stories.

Regarding the original post . . . I just want to say that even if we had segregation, we would not have peace.

I fight with my own sisters, so bad at one point that I had to move away from one of them. There is a dude down the block from me and we share the same color of skin. I can't stand him, nobody can stand him, regardless of their color. I'd like to send him somewhere.

After segregating based on color, then we'd have to segregate based on religion, then sexual orientation, then gun ownership, and on and on until we end up bored to tears because all of the people around us never challenge our thinking.

Libertarian_Guard
26th May 2010, 07:04 AM
TPTB, thanks for sharing your stories.

Regarding the original post . . . I just want to say that even if we had segregation, we would not have peace.

I fight with my own sisters, so bad at one point that I had to move away from one of them. There is a dude down the block from me and we share the same color of skin. I can't stand him, nobody can stand him, regardless of their color. I'd like to send him somewhere.

After segregating based on color, then we'd have to segregate based on religion, then sexual orientation, then gun ownership, and on and on until we end up bored to tears because all of the people around us never challenge our thinking.


All true, except some don't want their thinking challenged. Some consider that a threat.

JDRock
26th May 2010, 07:08 AM
Miscegenation is inevitable to some degree, but the degree we see it in today's world is not natural or organic.

Diversity is a weapon.

I love different cultures, traveling, seeing different peoples and races, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my race and culture be decimated.


great post. What those who have bowed low before the foreign goddess of political correctness
refuse to admit is, that segregaton WORKED!. When the races were segregated in America, there was almost NO racial strife....see modern day israel to see that wise men STILL strive for segregation as a method of PREVENTING race wars.

Libertarian_Guard
26th May 2010, 07:29 AM
Miscegenation is inevitable to some degree, but the degree we see it in today's world is not natural or organic.

Diversity is a weapon.

I love different cultures, traveling, seeing different peoples and races, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my race and culture be decimated.


great post. What those who have bowed low before the foreign goddess of political correctness
refuse to admit is, that segregaton WORKED!. When the races were segregated in America, there was almost NO racial strife....see modern day israel to see that wise men STILL strive for segregation as a method of PREVENTING race wars.


Congrats JDRock I don't think anyone can top that!

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 07:37 AM
I tend to just put things into a moral/legal reference (common law)

1. do all you have agreed to do (contract law)

2. do not encroach on others or their property (criminal law)

there should be no force or compulsion for anyone (regardless of race) to associate with anyone else, it should all be voluntary

from what I have read about the segregation of the 60's, the backlash was over the govt use of force, as much as anything

little johnny used to goto the school down the street, but the politicians decided we needed more white kids in the predominantly black schools, so now Johnny is hopping on the bus.

if Johnny decided voluntarily, hey I want to goto school with the black kids, and his parents were ok with it, and the govt was not involved (not bussing him, no quotas, etc)

would anyone really care?

maybe Johnny and his parents are going through a phase, he does 1 semester at the black school, and realizes how good he had it at his old school

but as long as it is voluntary, and with full knowledge disclosed

is it really anyone else's business?

TPTB
26th May 2010, 08:21 AM
Two things I don't agree with:
1) black male youths have a much higher rate of death or incarceration because a large percentage of them don't have daddies to whip the snot out of them. This is all a part of the planned destruction of black American culture, but it also carries over to white American culture. I don't know if what you say about the statistics are true or not. I wouldn't be surprised if it is.


Well sure, those kids are recipients of the Prison Industry criminal class which was created for and by the ruling class of the Empire.

greenbear, who exactly do you see as the executors of the planned destruction of American culture?


I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend. In the same way that pedophiles gravitate towards vocations that bring them in contact with little kids, sick predators who want power over other people often seek out positions of authority, including becoming a priest or a pastor.

Or parent...

Wife... but thanks, I appreciate it.


The Prison System in America is sick beyond belief. It's used as a breeding and training ground for an underclass of violent predators who feed off each other directly and indirectly off the poor and middle class.
Besides the Military Industry, the manufacture of a violent predatory criminal underclass seems to be quite a thriving corporate business model in America which has also been effective at preventing the disgruntled middle class sheep from adopting gray or black market tactics in order to avoid taxation.

Ash_Williams
26th May 2010, 09:19 AM
When we split everyone up then do the whites have to go back to europe? That sucks. Moving is a pain in the ass. I'm getting a tan and growing a pony tail.

greenbear
26th May 2010, 09:29 AM
Oh, sorry TPTB, I don't know why I typed girlfriend, you said wife.

I agree with what you have said about about the prison system.


greenbear, who exactly do you see as the executors of the planned destruction of American culture?


Ultimately, not flesh and blood, but principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph 6:12)
A network of the Bloodlines of the Illuminati apparently in competing factions, high level Satanism including high levels of Masonry in all of it's forms, the Vatican, the Black Pope with his Jesuit army.

Protestant countries, especially America, are under attack from these forces to make way for a One World Government, One World Economy and Monetary System, and One World Religion, under the auspices of the Church of Rome.

I don't believe these Satanic Illuminists, or their leader Satan, know when they will be allowed to successfully implement their plans. I believe it will not be until God allows it.

If interested in this line of thought one can start with a search under Eric Jon Phelps, especially Vatican Assassins, and Fritz Springmeier, Bloodlines of the Illuminati.

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 09:33 AM
eric jon phelps = Israeli Diamond Merchant = criminals are the jesuits.

How many central banks and media organizations (money and control of information, crucial for a takeover of anything) are actually run/owned or controlled by jesuits?

I :conf: ??? :oo-->

greenbear
26th May 2010, 09:39 AM
I'm not going to debate, but you can always read the book as a start (only 1000 or so pages). The conspiracy is vastly deeper and more complex than "it's all the Jews". The conspiracy predates the birth of Israel. Is there a Jewish faction of the Illuminati? Absolutely, but the conspiracy doesn't stop there, nor does it originate there.

goldmonkey
26th May 2010, 09:45 AM
After segregating based on color, then we'd have to segregate based on religion, then sexual orientation, then gun ownership, and on and on until we end up bored to tears because all of the people around us never challenge our thinking.


I wouldn't describe homogeneous Japan and Iceland as boring and never having their thinking challenged. Nor do they segregate based on your criteria.

goldmonkey
26th May 2010, 09:50 AM
Here's an article for the Multicultural/Multiracial Misery Advocates:


Robert Putnam’s sobering new diversity research scares its author.
25 June 2007
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-06-25jl.html

Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam, author of Bowling Alone, is very nervous about releasing his new research, and understandably so. His five-year study shows that immigration and ethnic diversity have a devastating short- and medium-term influence on the social capital, fabric of associations, trust, and neighborliness that create and sustain communities. He fears that his work on the surprisingly negative effects of diversity will become part of the immigration debate, even though he finds that in the long run, people do forge new communities and new ties.

Putnam’s study reveals that immigration and diversity not only reduce social capital between ethnic groups, but also within the groups themselves. Trust, even for members of one’s own race, is lower, altruism and community cooperation rarer, friendships fewer. The problem isn’t ethnic conflict or troubled racial relations, but withdrawal and isolation. Putnam writes: “In colloquial language, people living in ethnically diverse settings appear to ‘hunker down’—that is, to pull in like a turtle.”

In the 41 sites Putnam studied in the U.S., he found that the more diverse the neighborhood, the less residents trust neighbors. This proved true in communities large and small, from big cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Boston to tiny Yakima, Washington, rural South Dakota, and the mountains of West Virginia. In diverse San Francisco and Los Angeles, about 30 percent of people say that they trust neighbors a lot. In ethnically homogeneous communities in the Dakotas, the figure is 70 percent to 80 percent.

Diversity does not produce “bad race relations,” Putnam says. Rather, people in diverse communities tend “to withdraw even from close friends, to expect the worst from their community and its leaders, to volunteer less, give less to charity and work on community projects less often, to register to vote less, to agitate for social reform more, but have less faith that they can actually make a difference, and to huddle unhappily in front of the television.” Putnam adds a crushing footnote: his findings “may underestimate the real effect of diversity on social withdrawal.”

Neither age nor disparities of wealth explain this result. “Americans raised in the 1970s,” he writes, “seem fully as unnerved by diversity as those raised in the 1920s.” And the “hunkering down” occurred no matter whether the communities were relatively egalitarian or showed great differences in personal income. Even when communities are equally poor or rich, equally safe or crime-ridden, diversity correlates with less trust of neighbors, lower confidence in local politicians and news media, less charitable giving and volunteering, fewer close friends, and less happiness.

Putnam has long been aware that his findings could have a big effect on the immigration debate. Last October, he told the Financial Times that “he had delayed publishing his research until he could develop proposals to compensate for the negative effects of diversity.” He said it “would have been irresponsible to publish without that,” a quote that should raise eyebrows. Academics aren’t supposed to withhold negative data until they can suggest antidotes to their findings.

Nor has Putnam made details of his study available for examination by peers and the public. So far, he has published only an initial summary of his findings, from a speech he gave after winning an award in Sweden, in the June issue of Scandinavian Political Studies. His office said Putnam is in Britain, working on a religion project at the University of Manchester, and is currently too busy to grant an interview.

Putnam’s study does make two positive points: in the long run, increased immigration and diversity are inevitable and desirable, and successful immigrant societies “dampen the negative effects of diversity” by constructing new identities. Social psychologists have long favored the optimistic hypothesis that contact between different ethnic and racial groups increases tolerance and social solidarity. For instance, white soldiers assigned to units with black soldiers after World War II were more relaxed about desegregation of the army than were soldiers in all-white units. But Putnam acknowledges that most empirical studies do not support the “contact hypothesis.” In general, they find that the more people are brought into contact with those of another race or ethnicity, the more they stick to their own, and the less they trust others. Putnam writes: “Across local areas in the United States, Australia, Sweden Canada and Britain, greater ethnic diversity is associated with lower social trust and, at least in some cases, lower investment in public goods.”

Though Putnam is wary of what right-wing politicians might do with his findings, the data might give pause to those on the left, and in the center as well. If he’s right, heavy immigration will inflict social deterioration for decades to come, harming immigrants as well as the native-born. Putnam is hopeful that eventually America will forge a new solidarity based on a “new, broader sense of we.” The problem is how to do that in an era of multiculturalism and disdain for assimilation.

sirgonzo420
26th May 2010, 09:58 AM
After segregating based on color, then we'd have to segregate based on religion, then sexual orientation, then gun ownership, and on and on until we end up bored to tears because all of the people around us never challenge our thinking.


I wouldn't describe homogeneous Japan and Iceland as boring and never having their thinking challenged. Nor do they segregate based on your criteria.


Correct... but the japanese buy and sell bugs and used panties in vending machines over there... so perhaps they aren't the best role models... :P

The oddest thing about icelanders is that their phonebooks go by given name instead of last name, which I think is kinda cool.

No real point to this post - just pointing out cultural oddities and eccentricities.

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 10:05 AM
I'm not going to debate,

ok.....

you find me a free copy online, and I will read your book.

I will offer you a free source of info on "the illuminati"

page

http://100777.com/myron

download

http://files.100777.com/Fagan.mp3

http://files.100777.com/Fagan.mp3
streaming

http://100777.com/media/Fagan.m3u


EDIT: Fixed problem caused by censored word replacement malfunction. However, MP3 links appear to be invalid. -Gaillo

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 10:10 AM
.

I will offer you a free source of info on "the illuminati"

page

http://100777.com/myron

download

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3
streaming

http://100777.com/media/*agan.m3u






why does it keep changing the letter in my links???

the * is supposed to be an F

and when I change it back, and hit save, it loses the "F" again

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 10:14 AM
here is another source, try it again

http://www.archive.org/details/Myronfagan-TheIlluminatiAndTheCouncilOnForeignRelations


http://www.archive.org/download/Myronfagan-TheIlluminatiAndTheCouncilOnForeignRelations/A.Myron*agan-full_64kb.mp3

k-os
26th May 2010, 10:16 AM
You are being censored on a partial of the three letter word used to describe a homosexual and rhymes with hag.

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 10:16 AM
here is another source, try it again

http://www.archive.org/details/Myron*agan-TheIlluminatiAndTheCouncilOnForeignRelations


http://www.archive.org/download/Myron*agan-TheIlluminatiAndTheCouncilOnForeignRelations/A.Myron*agan-full_64kb.mp3

this is unbelievable

I cannot post a simple link on Myron Fagan

nothing to see here folks

well Greenbear, thats one way to win a debate, everytime

UFM
26th May 2010, 10:17 AM
.

I will offer you a free source of info on "the illuminati"

page

http://100777.com/myron

download

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3
streaming

http://100777.com/media/*agan.m3u






why does it keep changing the letter in my links???

the * is supposed to be an F

and when I change it back, and hit save, it loses the "F" again




because F-A-G is a bad word according to the liberals who make the softwars

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 10:17 AM
You are being censored on a partial of the three letter word used to describe a homosexual and rhymes with hag.


thats his name

thats the file name

so I need some "uncensoring"

k-os
26th May 2010, 10:18 AM
You are being censored on a partial of the three letter word used to describe a homosexual and rhymes with hag.


thats his name

thats the file name

so I need some "uncensoring"




Agreed. If I was in charge, I'd allow it. ;D

Brent
26th May 2010, 10:20 AM
GoD Is of course correct.

Whether you people like it or not species and sub-species are all meant to be in competition with one another.

Some of you don't seem to realize that the only point to life is to continue our genetic line.

Just because we are "Human" doesn't mean that we are above natures laws and if the White race continues to ignore natures most obvious law it will become extinct, washed away in a sea of brown.

greenbear
26th May 2010, 10:29 AM
here is another source, try it again

Link to Webpage (http://www.archive.org/details/MyronFagan-TheIlluminatiAndTheCouncilOnForeignRelations)


Link to Audio Clip (http://www.archive.org/download/MyronFagan-TheIlluminatiAndTheCouncilOnForeignRelations/A.MyronFagan-full_64kb.mp3)

this is unbelievable

I cannot post a simple link on Myron *agan

nothing to see here folks

well Greenbear, thats one way to win a debate, everytime




:D

You're funny!

LG (edit I mean LS), I only posted because TPTB asked my view. I haven't even read the entire Tome myself. You could also read Hislop's The Two Babylons, another Tomb. One pretty much has to believe the Bible is true, and have a literal, pre-millennial view of the Bible, in order to believe the things that I believe. I'll try to find some info online. :)



EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

Edit: Correct spelling of TOME. I've always misspelled that word.

Horn
26th May 2010, 10:30 AM
The oddest thing about icelanders is that their phonebooks go by given name instead of last name, which I think is kinda cool.

No real point to this post - just pointing out cultural oddities and eccentricities.


Is relevant, and also explains the "segregated" nature in volcano nomenclature.

Eyjafjallajokull has a listing? :D

Ash_Williams
26th May 2010, 10:39 AM
It's strange that it asterisks the f even though it's not the first letter of a word. I spent about 5 minutes trying to think of a word that contains the letters f-a-g in it, and can only come up with leafage. Perhaps they figured those words are so rare that a filter on any f-a-g would work.

I don't see the segregation working. I have more altercations with my own race than any other. The trashy whites in this city are as disgusting as the trashy blacks and the trashy muslims in their behaviors - I would like to be segregated from all of them. Head over to the coffee shop parking lot in the inner city and you'll see a few groups of difference races hanging out, all thinking they're better than the others while they sit around and smoke all day on the taxpayer dime. The truth isn't simply that you can't trust the non-white races, it's that you can't trust anyone. And these sad bastards certainly have no trouble having litters of kids (even the white ones). It's not the white race will be bred out of existence first, its the useful people.

UFM
26th May 2010, 10:44 AM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullshit

Horn
26th May 2010, 10:54 AM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullsh*t

Your so segregated, the jews may even accept you... ::)

greenbear
26th May 2010, 11:00 AM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullsh*t


You have every right to your opinion, and to do as you see fit. What you do not have the right to do is to mandate for other people who they marry and procreate with. One can be a racist and do no harm to other races, or limit the freedom of others. The problem is that violence and hate oftentimes accompanies a belief in one's absolute racial superiority, but not always. I have no problem with racists of any race, as long as they don't incite or do violence. They should live and let live, just as they demand for themselves.

steyr_m
26th May 2010, 11:06 AM
Two things I don't agree with:
1) black male youths have a much higher rate of death or incarceration because a large percentage of them don't have daddies to whip the snot out of them. This is all a part of the planned destruction of black American culture, but it also carries over to white American culture.


Yeah, I don't believe in that one. Africans are not able as a whole society able to live as Whites/Asians. Africa = Haiti = Dom Rep. The only reason why the US cities don't look like Africa yet is because there are Whites who want to, or are trying to keep the place looking decent. I wish it wasn't true, but they sub-consciously want to destroy anything that is good.

Stop the Hate, Separate.

Libertarian_Guard
26th May 2010, 11:11 AM
Steyr_m

Report back to me on the success of your separation movement.

Ash_Williams
26th May 2010, 11:26 AM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullsh*t

I say you shouldn't make kids with those that are below average in intelligence or fitness or health but people don't like hearing that because it makes them feel bad about being dumb couch potatoes with heart disease. Really though, what's the point of preserving the race if it turns further into a bunch of people you wouldn't want to know?

My kids will have a smart mother that's healthy and athletic and successful. Her race comes after that.

UFM
26th May 2010, 11:42 AM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullsh*t


You have every right to your opinion, and to do as you see fit. What you do not have the right to do is to mandate for other people who they marry and procreate with. One can be a racist and do no harm to other races, or limit the freedom of others. The problem is that violence and hate oftentimes accompanies a belief in one's absolute racial superiority, but not always. I have no problem with racists of any race, as long as they don't incite or do violence. They should live and let live, just as they demand for themselves.


there should be a place for whites only. like savage says borders language and culture.

UFM
26th May 2010, 11:45 AM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullsh*t

I say you shouldn't make kids with those that are below average in intelligence or fitness or health but people don't like hearing that because it makes them feel bad about being dumb couch potatoes with heart disease. Really though, what's the point of preserving the race if it turns further into a bunch of people you wouldn't want to know?

My kids will have a smart mother that's healthy and athletic and successful. Her race comes after that.


forget average. she shouldn't be below you or else you are wekening your lineage. the woman you mate with should be smarter healthier and more attractive than you if you do it right.

learn2swim
26th May 2010, 12:26 PM
We already have "implied" segregation all over the world. The people naturally segregate , it's government that imposes polices on them to mix, that's a FACT.... Somehow, we think nature is wrong, and government is correct... LOL

greenbear
26th May 2010, 12:31 PM
^^^ Very true.

1970 Silver Art
26th May 2010, 12:43 PM
if you make kids with a non white you are killing off your race. i would never breed with a non white. racsim is all about the preservation strengthening and continuation of your own race and it is not a bad thing. save me the hippy liberal bullsh*t


You have every right to your opinion, and to do as you see fit. What you do not have the right to do is to mandate for other people who they marry and procreate with. One can be a racist and do no harm to other races, or limit the freedom of others. The problem is that violence and hate oftentimes accompanies a belief in one's absolute racial superiority, but not always. I have no problem with racists of any race, as long as they don't incite or do violence. They should live and let live, just as they demand for themselves.



+1 Karma

Very well said Greenbear. I agree with that. Thanks for posting that. People have a right to be a racist as long as they do not use violence to harm other people of differnt races because of those racists views. I do not want people to limit my freedoms because of my skin color and I do not want people to tell me who I should associate with based on my skin color.

Grand Master Melon
26th May 2010, 12:56 PM
Is it not possible to expand the race through mixing?

I know plenty of people whose family has been "bleached out" if you will.

greenbear
26th May 2010, 01:23 PM
1+ Karma to you, Silver Art. (Sorry ;)) For Truth.

greenbear
26th May 2010, 02:00 PM
I'm not going to debate,

ok.....

you find me a free copy online, and I will read your book.

I will offer you a free source of info on "the illuminati"

page

http://100777.com/myron

download

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3
streaming

http://100777.com/media/*agan.m3u






Large Sarge, sorry it took so long but here are some sources. Sorry your link won't work because some other person went on a **g rampage. I can obviously find it if I decide to do so.

Since I believe a literal interpretation of the Bible, including of prophetic passages, is the ultimate source of truth, I am confident that nothing will sway me from my core position. Not to say that I haven't learned anything from you guys, though, because I have. It's always good to study around a topic and hear different viewpoints because it can correct and refine, or completely change one's mind. I in no way expect you to listen to or read any of it, but it's there if you choose to. :)

Interview of Eric Jon Phelps (5 Parts)

It's long but much shorter than the book. Phelps material is well-researched, and well-documented. I part ways with him in his Reconstructionist bent.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm

Link to Vatican Assassins PDF. It's only 663 pages.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/vatican_assassins.pdf

Link to his website

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

PDF of Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons

http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_BABYLONS.pdf

Fritz Springmeier's video: 13 Illuminate Bloodlines & Mind Control (There are 16 parts.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k73Q2_f4vKU

StackerKen
26th May 2010, 02:10 PM
this world will not have peace

until Christ returns

Jesus said;

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 02:20 PM
.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm




starting here for now

from your link


They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that they would create “amusements”.


JEWISH INFLUENCE IN THE BUSINESS OF SPORTS


Commssioner of Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
Commissioner of the National Football League: Paul Tagliabue
Commissioner of the National Basketball Association: David Stern
Commissioner of the National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
Commissioner of of Major League Soccer: Don Garber

All these heads of the 4 major American sports professional organizations are Jewish (2002).

and a whole whole lot more at the link (virtually every sports assoc is run/owned by jews, not knights of malta)

please look at the link, it is so well documented/researched

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-capitalists-sports.html

Gaillo
26th May 2010, 02:24 PM
.

I will offer you a free source of info on "the illuminati"

page

http://100777.com/myron

download

http://files.100777.com/Fagan.mp3

http://files.100777.com/Fagan.mp3
streaming

http://100777.com/media/Fagan.m3u






why does it keep changing the letter in my links???

the * is supposed to be an F

and when I change it back, and hit save, it loses the "F" again




It was a problem with the "censored words list replacement" function - it's been fixed now. However, your links still don't appear to work.

Libertarian_Guard
26th May 2010, 02:29 PM
Greenbear

Fritz is a killer. His message may be spot on, but I'll never know. Whenever I hear someone speak, in his manor, with a built in pause after every word, something goes off in my mind and I tune 'em out. It just does not strike me as a natural way to speak.

Perhaps it is a learned response (delivery) from people that have spent much of their lives in church, listening to others preach in this manor? I don't know. But I don't like it.

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 02:37 PM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm




still working from here

Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, which is Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia Commission resides in New York. Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate, personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And that has not changed.


So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s only Jews who are front-men who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy], and he would never say a word about it.



ok first Vegas

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lasvegas/peopleevents/p_syndicate.html

When the 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition in 1933, the Bugs and Meyer Mob lost their main source of income. However, in anticipation of the end of Prohibition, members of one-time competing crime factions came together to form a loosely bound organization, entitled "the Syndicate." Lansky and Luciano were two of the Syndicate's bosses.

The Crime Corporation
The Syndicate was created to unify once competing gangs. Without the lucrative profits from the black market during Prohibition, their power was weaker and they could not afford internecine strife. So they set up a commission to divide up the turf and to regulate the markets. Each gang maintained a degree of independence within the Syndicate, pursuing its individual interests and expertise, such as gambling, narcotics trade and prostitution. One such branch was known as "Murder, Inc.," specializing in the "enforcement" of the Syndicate's business.

Chairman of the Board
With their newfound unification, the Syndicate's power grew considerably. When Lucky Luciano was deported to Italy, he turned all of his responsibilities to Lansky, who was known as the Chairman of the Board of the National Crime Syndicate. Siegel created a Syndicate stronghold in the quickly developing American Southwest, where he set up new monopolized gambling circuits and the Syndicate-funded Strip hotel-resort the Flamingo, founded in 1946.

In Las Vegas
After Siegel, who had once famously noted of Syndicate members, "We only kill each other," was murdered in 1947, Gus Greenbaum, Davey Berman, and Morris Rosen, three of the Syndicate's chief authorities, took over the Flamingo. The hotel's success prompted the Syndicate to pour more money into building Strip resorts, and by the 1950s, the Strip was lined with hotel-casinos, many, if not all, funded by Syndicate money. From the 1940s through the 1970s, Las Vegas and its lavish resorts were made possible in large part by the mob,


and second Hollywood

How Jewish is Hollywood?
A poll finds more Americans disagree with the statement that ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ But here’s one Jew who doesn’t.

Joel Stein

December 19, 2008

I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

The person they were yelling at in that ad was SAG President Alan Rosenberg (take a guess). The scathing rebuttal to the ad was written by entertainment super-agent Ari Emanuel (Jew with Israeli parents) on the Huffington Post, which is owned by Arianna Huffington (not Jewish and has never worked in Hollywood.)

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you’d be flipping between “The 700 Club” and “Davey and Goliath” on TV all day.

So I’ve taken it upon myself to re-convince America that Jews run Hollywood by launching a public relations campaign, because that’s what we do best. I’m weighing several slogans, including: “Hollywood: More Jewish than ever!”; “Hollywood: From the people who brought you the Bible”; and “Hollywood: If you enjoy TV and movies, then you probably like Jews after all.”

I called ADL Chairman Abe Foxman, who was in Santiago, Chile, where, he told me to my dismay, he was not hunting Nazis. He dismissed my whole proposition, saying that the number of people who think Jews run Hollywood is still too high. The ADL poll, he pointed out, showed that 59% of Americans think Hollywood execs “do not share the religious and moral values of most Americans,” and 43% think the entertainment industry is waging an organized campaign to “weaken the influence of religious values in this country.”

That’s a sinister canard, Foxman said. “It means they think Jews

meet at Canter’s Deli on Friday mornings to decide what’s best for the Jews.” Foxman’s argument made me rethink: I have to eat at Canter’s more often.

“That’s a very dangerous phrase, ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ What is true is that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood,” he said. Instead of “control,” Foxman would prefer people say that many executives in the industry “happen to be Jewish,” as in “all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish.”

But Foxman said he is proud of the accomplishments of American Jews. “I think Jews are disproportionately represented in the creative industry. They’re disproportionate as lawyers and probably medicine here as well,” he said. He argues that this does not mean that Jews make pro-Jewish movies any more than they do pro-Jewish surgery. Though other countries, I’ve noticed, aren’t so big on circumcision.

I appreciate Foxman’s concerns. And maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/celebrity/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,2313474.column

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 02:52 PM
@ greenbear,

I am going to start a new thread, we are kind of hijacking this one.

greenbear
26th May 2010, 03:03 PM
.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm




starting here for now

from your link


They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that they would create “amusements”.


JEWISH INFLUENCE IN THE BUSINESS OF SPORTS


Commssioner of Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
Commissioner of the National Football League: Paul Tagliabue
Commissioner of the National Basketball Association: David Stern
Commissioner of the National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
Commissioner of of Major League Soccer: Don Garber

All these heads of the 4 major American sports professional organizations are Jewish (2002).

and a whole whole lot more at the link (virtually every sports assoc is run/owned by jews, not knights of malta)

please look at the link, it is so well documented/researched

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-capitalists-sports.html



NATIONAL FOOTBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...l_League_teams

Arizona Cardinals

Owner: Bill Bidwill (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Baltimore Ravens

Owner: Steve Bisciotti (Roman Catholic, on the board of "Catholic Charities")

Chicago Bears

Owner: Virgina McCaskey (Roman Catholic)

Chairman: Michael McCaskey (Roman Catholic)

Head Coach: Lovie Smith (Roman Catholic)

Detroit Lions

According to Eric Jon Phelps (www.vaticanassassins.org), the owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. I could find no confirmation for this though.

Houston Texans

Head Coach: Gary Kubiak (Roman Catholic)

Indianapolis Colts

Owner: Jim Irsay (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

New York Giants

Owner: John Mara (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Head Coach: Tom Coughlin (Coached for the Jesuit Boston College)

Pittsburgh Steelers

Owner: Dan Rooney (Roman Catholic, Knight of Malta according to Eric Jon Phelps)

Manager: Kevin Colbert (Roman Catholic)

San Diego Chargers

Manager/Executive Vice President: A.J. Smith (Roman Catholic)

San Fransisco 49ers

Owner: John York (Roman Catholic)

Head Coach: Mike Nolan (Roman Catholic)

NATIONAL BASEBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_l...gue_franchises

Baltimore Orioles# David Montgomery, president and CEO of the Philadelphia Phillies

Manager: David Trembley (Roman Catholic)

New York Yankees

Owner: George Steinbrenner (Roman Catholic)

Manager: Joe Girardi (Roman Catholic)

General Manager: Brian Cashman (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Tampa Bay Rays

Owner: Stuart Sternberg (Roman Catholic)

Toronto Blue Jays

Manager: J. P. Ricciardi (Roman Catholic)

Cleveland Indians

Owner: Larry Dolan (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Chicago Cubs

General Manager/Vice President: Jim Hendry (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Cincinnati Reds

Owner: Robert Castellini (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

NATIONAL BASKETBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ociation#Teams

Boston Celtics

Head Coach: Doc Rivers (His son plays on the basketball team of Georgetown, a Jesuit university)

New Jersey Nets

Owner: Mary Higgins Clark (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, Knight (Dame) of Malta)

Head Coach: Lawrence Frank (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

New York Knicks

Owner: James Dolan (Son of the Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained owner of the Chicago Cubs)

Manager: Donnie Walsh (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Philadelphia 76ers

Manager: Ed Stefanski (Roman Catholic)

Chicago Bulls

Manager: John Paxson (Roman Catholic)

Cleveland Cavaliers

Manager: Danny Ferry (Roman Catholic)

Indiana Pacers

Head Coach: Jim O'Brien (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, Coached for a Jesuit university)

Charlotte Bobcats

Owner: Michael Jordan (Both of his sons attended a Jesuit school)

Orlando Magic

Head Coach: Steve Van Gundy (Was assistant coach at two Jesuit universities)

Washington Wizards

Head Coach: Eddie Jordan (Was assistant coach at a Jesuit university)

Oklahoma City National Basketball Association team

Head Coach: P. J. Carlesimo (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Golden State Warriors

Manager: Chris Mullin (Roman Catholic)

Los Angeles Chippers

Manager: Elgin Baylor (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Houston Rockets

Head Coach: Rick Adelman (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Memphis Grizzlies

Owner: Michael Heisley (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Wrestling

World Wrestling Entertainment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W..._Entertainment

Chairman: Vince McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Chief Executive Officer: Linda McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Executive Vice President of Global Media: Shane McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Executive Vice President of Creative Writing: Stephanie McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Yes, arguably the biggest sheeple distraction is run by a Roman Catholic family, the McMahons. It's interesting to note that The Undertaker is Roman Catholic as well.



Knights of Columbus in sports:

Quote:
In the world of sports, Vince Lombardi, the famed former coach of the Green Bay Packers, Lou Albano Wrestler, James Connolly, the first Olympic Gold Medal champion in modern times, and baseball star Babe Ruth were Knights. Former heavyweight boxing champion, Floyd Patterson, was also a Knight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Columbus


http://letsrollforums.com/vatican-runs-professional-sports-t17465.html?s=5a63d7a0f58d06dd2c71a9601f50583b&

Libertarian_Guard
26th May 2010, 03:04 PM
@ greenbear,

I am going to start a new thread, we are kind of hijacking this one.




If ever there was a thread in need of a good hijacking, this is it!

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 03:10 PM
.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm




starting here for now

from your link


They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that they would create “amusements”.


JEWISH INFLUENCE IN THE BUSINESS OF SPORTS


Commssioner of Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
Commissioner of the National Football League: Paul Tagliabue
Commissioner of the National Basketball Association: David Stern
Commissioner of the National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
Commissioner of of Major League Soccer: Don Garber

All these heads of the 4 major American sports professional organizations are Jewish (2002).

and a whole whole lot more at the link (virtually every sports assoc is run/owned by jews, not knights of malta)

please look at the link, it is so well documented/researched

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-capitalists-sports.html



NATIONAL FOOTBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...l_League_teams

Arizona Cardinals

Owner: Bill Bidwill (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Baltimore Ravens

Owner: Steve Bisciotti (Roman Catholic, on the board of "Catholic Charities")

Chicago Bears

Owner: Virgina McCaskey (Roman Catholic)

Chairman: Michael McCaskey (Roman Catholic)

Head Coach: Lovie Smith (Roman Catholic)

Detroit Lions

According to Eric Jon Phelps (www.vaticanassassins.org), the owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. I could find no confirmation for this though.

Houston Texans

Head Coach: Gary Kubiak (Roman Catholic)

Indianapolis Colts

Owner: Jim Irsay (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

New York Giants

Owner: John Mara (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Head Coach: Tom Coughlin (Coached for the Jesuit Boston College)

Pittsburgh Steelers

Owner: Dan Rooney (Roman Catholic, Knight of Malta according to Eric Jon Phelps)

Manager: Kevin Colbert (Roman Catholic)

San Diego Chargers

Manager/Executive Vice President: A.J. Smith (Roman Catholic)

San Fransisco 49ers

Owner: John York (Roman Catholic)

Head Coach: Mike Nolan (Roman Catholic)

NATIONAL BASEBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_l...gue_franchises

Baltimore Orioles# David Montgomery, president and CEO of the Philadelphia Phillies

Manager: David Trembley (Roman Catholic)

New York Yankees

Owner: George Steinbrenner (Roman Catholic)

Manager: Joe Girardi (Roman Catholic)

General Manager: Brian Cashman (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Tampa Bay Rays

Owner: Stuart Sternberg (Roman Catholic)

Toronto Blue Jays

Manager: J. P. Ricciardi (Roman Catholic)

Cleveland Indians

Owner: Larry Dolan (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Chicago Cubs

General Manager/Vice President: Jim Hendry (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Cincinnati Reds

Owner: Robert Castellini (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

NATIONAL BASKETBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ociation#Teams

Boston Celtics

Head Coach: Doc Rivers (His son plays on the basketball team of Georgetown, a Jesuit university)

New Jersey Nets

Owner: Mary Higgins Clark (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, Knight (Dame) of Malta)

Head Coach: Lawrence Frank (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

New York Knicks

Owner: James Dolan (Son of the Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained owner of the Chicago Cubs)

Manager: Donnie Walsh (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Philadelphia 76ers

Manager: Ed Stefanski (Roman Catholic)

Chicago Bulls

Manager: John Paxson (Roman Catholic)

Cleveland Cavaliers

Manager: Danny Ferry (Roman Catholic)

Indiana Pacers

Head Coach: Jim O'Brien (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, Coached for a Jesuit university)

Charlotte Bobcats

Owner: Michael Jordan (Both of his sons attended a Jesuit school)

Orlando Magic

Head Coach: Steve Van Gundy (Was assistant coach at two Jesuit universities)

Washington Wizards

Head Coach: Eddie Jordan (Was assistant coach at a Jesuit university)

Oklahoma City National Basketball Association team

Head Coach: P. J. Carlesimo (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Golden State Warriors

Manager: Chris Mullin (Roman Catholic)

Los Angeles Chippers

Manager: Elgin Baylor (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Houston Rockets

Head Coach: Rick Adelman (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Memphis Grizzlies

Owner: Michael Heisley (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Wrestling

World Wrestling Entertainment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W..._Entertainment

Chairman: Vince McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Chief Executive Officer: Linda McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Executive Vice President of Global Media: Shane McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Executive Vice President of Creative Writing: Stephanie McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Yes, arguably the biggest sheeple distraction is run by a Roman Catholic family, the McMahons. It's interesting to note that The Undertaker is Roman Catholic as well.



Knights of Columbus in sports:

Quote:
In the world of sports, Vince Lombardi, the famed former coach of the Green Bay Packers, Lou Albano Wrestler, James Connolly, the first Olympic Gold Medal champion in modern times, and baseball star Babe Ruth were Knights. Former heavyweight boxing champion, Floyd Patterson, was also a Knight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Columbus


http://letsrollforums.com/vatican-runs-professional-sports-t17465.html?s=5a63d7a0f58d06dd2c71a9601f50583b&


I guess I am going to have to check some of your data, and I am not complaining, but I could not get any of your wiki links to go anywhere (not that wikipedia is such a great source)

I will check some of the info, can you check and make sure you copy and paste correctly, so your links work....

it helps for folks following along also

Large Sarge
26th May 2010, 03:13 PM
can we move all future posts on this topic over here

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/jesuits-or-jews-rule-the-planet-(inquiring-minds-want-to-know)/

greenbear
26th May 2010, 03:16 PM
The all-seeing eye of Horace:

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greenbear
26th May 2010, 03:17 PM
@ greenbear,

I am going to start a new thread, we are kind of hijacking this one.




If ever there was a thread in need of a good hijacking, this is it!


Oh, sorry. I'm a terrible hi-jacker. I'll move my posts. I said I wasn't going to debate, though. You can win by default for that reason. ;)

greenbear
26th May 2010, 03:56 PM
Greenbear

Fritz is a killer. His message may be spot on, but I'll never know. Whenever I hear someone speak, in his manor, with a built in pause after every word, something goes off in my mind and I tune 'em out. It just does not strike me as a natural way to speak.

Perhaps it is a learned response (delivery) from people that have spent much of their lives in church, listening to others preach in this manor? I don't know. But I don't like it.


LG, Fritz was/is unbalanced. Anyone who gets deep into research of the occult seems to end up that way. I even have serious doubts about whether he is a Christian for a couple of reasons. HOWEVER, judge his research, not his personal life. Also, the man was set up, and imprisoned. That happens when you threaten the wrong people. if you expose them they will attack. Or naming them specifically. They have families, lives, they will kill you if they have to. Fritz is just one of many, many sources of information on these things. I am not a person who has spent a lot of time in churches. For the most part, they have gone apostate. I only believe the King James Bible as the unquestionable truth. Everything else is subject to change if facts show otherwise.

TPTB
26th May 2010, 05:54 PM
Thanks for all that, greenbear. It's pleasant reading alternatives to what is becoming the politically correct view around here.

steyr_m
26th May 2010, 08:44 PM
Steyr_m

Report back to me on the success of your separation movement.


It doesn't look like it will happen soon, but doesn't mean that it won't happen. Many things can happen in five years.

TomLandrysHat
26th May 2010, 09:34 PM
How would carving up the world along racial lines create peace, exactly?

Grand Master Melon
26th May 2010, 11:39 PM
How would carving up the world along racial lines create peace, exactly?


It wouldn't.

It sounds more like the wetdream of a racist to me.

Odysseus
27th May 2010, 05:59 AM
Thanks for all that, greenbear. It's pleasant reading alternatives to what is becoming the politically correct view around here.


+1.

I would applaud you, greenbear and LS, but it seems that the applause/smite ratio represents the degree to which one agrees with the developing group-think, and that tends to be more congruent with national socialism than with individual liberty.

So wear them with pride! 8)

goldmonkey
27th May 2010, 08:00 AM
How would carving up the world along racial lines create peace, exactly?


How is preventing each race from determining its own destiny, peaceful?

How is preventing each race from living with and being governed by their own kind who share the same interests, peaceful?

What's peaceful about being governed by Hostile Jews?

How is using Cultural Marxist Political Correctness and diversity propaganda 24/7 to force everybody to PRETEND to get along, peaceful?

Diversity is death, chaos, and confusion as confirmed by the leftist Putnam.

Homogeneity is strength.

greenbear
27th May 2010, 08:52 AM
Thanks for all that, greenbear. It's pleasant reading alternatives to what is becoming the politically correct view around here.


+1.

I would applaud you, greenbear and LS, but it seems that the applause/smite ratio represents the degree to which one agrees with the developing group-think, and that tends to be more congruent with national socialism than with individual liberty.

So wear them with pride! 8)


TPTB, Thanks for asking. :) It's nice to be on a free-speech forum. However, there is definitely a cadre of ummm... researchers here who use every dirty trick in the book to make sure it's not worth it for members to shirk their party line.

Odysseus, I've already been warned about you by a "concerned party" :D. I see that you have been ordered numerous times to identify yourself or leave. It does seem that the National Socialists here really think they own this forum and they never fail to use personal insults, intimidation, character assassination, revision of history, sophistry, and just plain dumb arguments and bullying to censor thought. Yep, the smite brigade is alive and well on GSUS! Thanks for your comments.

Large Sarge
27th May 2010, 09:07 AM
Thanks for all that, greenbear. It's pleasant reading alternatives to what is becoming the politically correct view around here.


+1.

I would applaud you, greenbear and LS, but it seems that the applause/smite ratio represents the degree to which one agrees with the developing group-think, and that tends to be more congruent with national socialism than with individual liberty.

So wear them with pride! 8)


TPTB, Thanks for asking. :) It's nice to be on a free-speech forum. However, there is definitely a cadre of ummm... researchers here who use every dirty trick in the book to make sure it's not worth it for members to shirk their party line.

Odysseus, I've already been warned about you by a "concerned party" :D. I see that you have been ordered numerous times to identify yourself or leave. It does seem that the National Socialists here really think they own this forum and they never fail to use personal insults, intimidation, character assassination, revision of history, sophistry, and just plain dumb arguments and bullying to censor thought. Yep, the smite brigade is alive and well on GSUS! Thanks for your comments.


hope that is not in reference to me

I do not get upset with this

I have just repeatedly pointed out that eric jon phelps was not a real researcher, and that was done in a few minutes time

the part on "catholics/jesuits own hollywood" well that takes some real "chutzpah" as they might say.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
27th May 2010, 10:41 AM
I'm just thinking about this rationally. Racially and religiously, we as human beings can't live together unless we're alike and even then it's a pain in the back side. History and the Roman Empire shows us this.

I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start.


You've got to be kidding me. I work with people of all races, I am friends with people of all races. The walls are so broken down that race barely matters in the big cities anymore. In fact, the only time I see race coming into play is during theft and/or political situations.

Maybe I am already biased since I am one of those "half breeds"...Half White, Half Egyptian, and the white side is from like 12 different countries...It's a little hard for me to imagine neo-segregation.

UFM
27th May 2010, 12:08 PM
I'm just thinking about this rationally. Racially and religiously, we as human beings can't live together unless we're alike and even then it's a pain in the back side. History and the Roman Empire shows us this.

I say everyone go to their corners and we take a 100 year time out as a start.


You've got to be kidding me. I work with people of all races, I am friends with people of all races. The walls are so broken down that race barely matters in the big cities anymore. In fact, the only time I see race coming into play is during theft and/or political situations.

Maybe I am already biased since I am one of those "half breeds"...Half White, Half Egyptian, and the white side is from like 12 different countries...It's a little hard for me to imagine neo-segregation.




take big city of your choice and tell me you can go into every ghetto that black man can go. yes race does still matter expesially in the big cities

Odysseus
27th May 2010, 03:41 PM
...

Odysseus, I've already been warned about you by a "concerned party" :D. I see that you have been ordered numerous times to identify yourself or leave. It does seem that the National Socialists here really think they own this forum and they never fail to use personal insults, intimidation, character assassination, revision of history, sophistry, and just plain dumb arguments and bullying to censor thought. Yep, the smite brigade is alive and well on GSUS! Thanks for your comments.


Thank you, greenbear. You're one of the posters that keeps me coming back.

So you were warned about me by a concerned party, huh? Well, maybe it was just a bit of chivalry from a good gentleman concerned with your honor and safety. Was he wearing an armband? ;D

Yes, now that you mention it, I do remember one of those guys barked a few orders at me not too long ago. He sounded truly frustrated. I just said "bug off" and pretended I didn't speak German. He got very upset, I hope he's over it.

And hey, the smites just show how much they care...

All the best to you, greenbear.

Libertarian_Guard
27th May 2010, 04:16 PM
...

Odysseus, I've already been warned about you by a "concerned party" :D. I see that you have been ordered numerous times to identify yourself or leave. It does seem that the National Socialists here really think they own this forum and they never fail to use personal insults, intimidation, character assassination, revision of history, sophistry, and just plain dumb arguments and bullying to censor thought. Yep, the smite brigade is alive and well on GSUS! Thanks for your comments.


Thank you, greenbear. You're one of the posters that keeps me coming back.

So you were warned about me by a concerned party, huh? Well, maybe it was just a bit of chivalry from a good gentleman concerned with your honor and safety. Was he wearing an armband? ;D

http://i46.tinypic.com/e9hxk3.jpg

greenbear
27th May 2010, 05:55 PM
...

Odysseus, I've already been warned about you by a "concerned party" :D. I see that you have been ordered numerous times to identify yourself or leave. It does seem that the National Socialists here really think they own this forum and they never fail to use personal insults, intimidation, character assassination, revision of history, sophistry, and just plain dumb arguments and bullying to censor thought. Yep, the smite brigade is alive and well on GSUS! Thanks for your comments.


Thank you, greenbear. You're one of the posters that keeps me coming back.

So you were warned about me by a concerned party, huh? Well, maybe it was just a bit of chivalry from a good gentleman concerned with your honor and safety. Was he wearing an armband? ;D

Yes, now that you mention it, I do remember one of those guys barked a few orders at me not too long ago. He sounded truly frustrated. I just said "bug off" and pretended I didn't speak German. He got very upset, I hope he's over it.

And hey, the smites just show how much they care...

All the best to you, greenbear.




Well, I have gone too far because that person is a gentleman and I believe not a hater. IMO he is a "gentile with a conscience" who sees how our nation and western culture is being destroyed but I believe he is mistaken about Zionist Israel as the ring leader. I see it as a pawn.

Anyway, all the best to you as well, Odysseus.

TomLandrysHat
27th May 2010, 10:17 PM
How would carving up the world along racial lines create peace, exactly?


How is preventing each race from determining its own destiny, peaceful?

Racial segregation would place restrictions on the individual from determining one's own destiny. In my view the rights of the individual are paramount.


How is preventing each race from living with and being governed by their own kind who share the same interests, peaceful?

If you want to live and be governed by people who look and have the same interests as you I would respect your right to start or join a community along those lines. If, however, you want to force this hypothetical community’s rules and ideology on anyone who does not wish to follow it, I would encourage them to exercise their right to tell you where to go.


What's peaceful about being governed by Hostile Jews?

Nothing, as would be being governed by anyone hostile in general.


How is using Cultural Marxist Political Correctness and diversity propaganda 24/7 to force everybody to PRETEND to get along, peaceful?

Forcing anyone to do anything against their will is against the individuals rights and not acceptable (Unless it is their will to harm another). But claiming to know that idividuals from different races are only pretending to get along is disingenuous at best and a straight out delusion at worst.


Diversity is death, chaos, and confusion as confirmed by the leftist Putnam.

Homogeneity is strength.


These are beliefs held by you. The fact that Putnam has drawn the same conclusions doesn’t confirm their basis in reality, especially not my reality.

Now would you kindly explain how you believe carving the globe up along racial lines would create peace?

I'm not looking for a game of question tag. I am interested in your opinion/beliefs.

FunnyMoney
29th May 2010, 11:10 AM
TomLandrysHat, that was an excellent post.